The 360 is objectively the worst console from the past gen.

So essentially its because you have to pay for live.

ActicEdge

As a standalone console, the Wii was bottom of the barrel terribad. 360 is probably the best (only due to PC/360 multiplats in both retail and Arcade games).

Paired with a PC, the PS3 was the best console.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So essentially its because you have to pay for live.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I agree.

Bigboi500

Why so? I mean do you really think exclusives matter that much? I only really think exclusives are huge if you only buy 1 system.

I would say owning a 360 is more redundant if you already have a PS3 or PC but when you just compare systems on their individual merits, I have trouble seeing where the 360 loses to the Wii in objective terms. Obviously paying for live sucks but its not really a huge factor on the quality of games as a whole. Its the cost of an extra game a year maximum.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So essentially its because you have to pay for live.

Bigboi500

In terms of total games there is no way it lost to the Wii. For every Wii exclusive, the 360 had 3 multiplats for it.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Why so? I mean do you really think exclusives matter that much? I only really think exclusives are huge if you only buy 1 system.

ActicEdge

I would say owning a 360 is more redundant if you already have a PS3 or PC but when you just compare systems on their individual merits, I have trouble seeing where the 360 loses to the Wii in objective terms. Obviously paying for live sucks but its not really a huge factor on the quality of games as a whole. Its the cost of an extra game a year maximum.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So essentially its because you have to pay for live.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the 360 was ahead when the spreadsheet was last updated. it's been a while but how many high scoring ps3 exclusives have been released recently?

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AriQpIFbPoEacGM1b0xxcGVucFQ3OFc4N3BNZmd2QkE&gid=1

CaseyWegner

you didn't look at xbl and psn did you?

Of course not.

They didn't count at the beginning of this gen, and just because lems are starting to cry foul does not mean we should automatically change the rules.

Even if I did, half of those 360 "exclusives" went out with the launch of Windows 8.

Sine mora, ms splosion man, toy soldiers, toy soldiers cold war, the adventures of shuggy, iron brigade, trials hd, and galaga legions.

None of those are exclusive anymore. 

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]That and because of the many more Wii exclusives.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]That and because of the many more Wii exclusives.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] And miss a ton of excellent multiplats in a gen defined by multiplats? Are you people high or just stupid?locopatho

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]By looking at my library for one thing... there are way more PS3 and Wii games on my game shelves. And then there's having to pay for Gold to access half the games' contents, and then there's hardly any 360 exclusives, so yeah.

Bigboi500

I would say owning a 360 is more redundant if you already have a PS3 or PC but when you just compare systems on their individual merits, I have trouble seeing where the 360 loses to the Wii in objective terms. Obviously paying for live sucks but its not really a huge factor on the quality of games as a whole. Its the cost of an extra game a year maximum.

So do I but I mean the thread says objectively so I'm throwing some objectivity into the mix lol.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Who's missing them? Not 90% of gamers who own more than one system. And accusing people with different personal tastes than yourself as being "high or stupid" is just juvenile and myopic.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] And miss a ton of excellent multiplats in a gen defined by multiplats? Are you people high or just stupid?DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Don't make up stats. locopatho

:roll:

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I should have put 100%.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"] PS3 has more games according to your link. senses_fail_06

you didn't look at xbl and psn did you?

Of course not.

They didn't count at the beginning of this gen, and just because lems are starting to cry foul does not mean we should automatically change the rules.

Even if I did, half of those 360 "exclusives" went out with the launch of Windows 8.

Sine mora, ms splosion man, toy soldiers, toy soldiers cold war, the adventures of shuggy, iron brigade, trials hd, and galaga legions.

None of those are exclusive anymore. 

i don't think this thread is talking about the metagame. now how do things stack up with the removal of those now non-exclusive xbl games? still looks neck and neck at the very least.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So essentially its because you have to pay for live.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] It'd make as much sense. There's enough real things to trash 360 on without going into fanboy bullshit mode. You're better then that?locopatho

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"] Gamespot.com. Start counting. blue_hazy_basic

the 360 was ahead when the spreadsheet was last updated. it's been a while but how many high scoring ps3 exclusives have been released recently?

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AriQpIFbPoEacGM1b0xxcGVucFQ3OFc4N3BNZmd2QkE&gid=1

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So essentially its because you have to pay for live.

Jakandsigz

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I'm saying gamers with more than one system doesn't have to miss out on the majority of multiplats. Most single-system owners are casual anyways, so they're more likely to not buy everything, hence the assumed 90%. Throwing out any percentage was innacurate on my part on that.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] As a secondary system it is definitely the worst. I don't think we should assume everyone owns everything tho. I think systems should stand on their own. Great exclusive libraries are a bonus.locopatho

really?

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]In my personal opinion, comparing libraries of 360 vs Wii, I'll take Wii exclusives over 360 multiplats, just going by numbers of games I liked more. I realize most people probably haven't played most Wii exclusives AND most 360 multiplats, and even if they did they might not agree. I just happen to think that a LOT of games this generation are heavily over-rated, mostly from the blockbuster mainstream catagory.

CaseyWegner

really?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] As a secondary system it is definitely the worst. I don't think we should assume everyone owns everything tho. I think systems should stand on their own. Great exclusive libraries are a bonus.locopatho

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]That and because of the many more Wii exclusives.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Who's missing them? Not 90% of gamers who own more than one system. And accusing people with different personal tastes than yourself as being "high or stupid" is just juvenile and myopic.

Bigboi500

7th gen multiplats that I think highly of:

Dragon Age: Origins

Fallout 3

Fallout: NV

Enslaved: Odyssey to the West

Red Dead Redemption

Far Cry 3

The Witcher 2

TES: Skyrim

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

Wii exclusives I think highly of:

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle

Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon

Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2

Xenoblade

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

NSMBW

Sin & Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3

Rune Factory: Frontier

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

360 854 vs ps3 710 on Metacritic.

tormentos

1 year head start..

Now compare that to what between the PS2 and original xbox and tell me how many the xbox was missing.

This time there is no year advantage lets see who gets more games..

bottled water phone leaky pen tobacco rolling papers sweaty hands Sssssooooonnnyyy! Eltormo!

just noticed I left out 70 and above so..

Metacritic

Xbox 360 854 games rated 70 and above.

Playstation 3 710 games rated 70 and above.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] The Wii has more exclusives?Jakandsigz

Animal Crossing: City FolkBigboi500

7th gen multiplats that I think highly of:

Dragon Age: Origins

Fallout 3

Fallout: NV

Enslaved: Odyssey to the West

Red Dead Redemption

Far Cry 3

The Witcher 2

TES: Skyrim

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

Wii exclusives I think highly of:

No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle

Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon

Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2

Xenoblade

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

NSMBW

Sin & Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3

Rune Factory: Frontier

Bigboi500

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Michael0134567

 

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Michael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Blabadon

Fragile Dreams

Xenoblade

Super Mario Galaxy 2

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

Sin and Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3 (Well, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is what I want)

Rune Factory: Frontier

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

 

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Bigboi500

Some of those I've never seen in stores. Looks like I'll have to buy some online.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

 

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Michael0134567

Some of those I've never seen in stores. Looks like I'll have to buy some online.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Better hurry, a lot of Wii exclusives are becoming rare and expensive.

Bigboi500

Some of those I've never seen in stores. Looks like I'll have to buy some online.

Yeah, I'm not paying $90 for that. :P Hoping for a reprint. Would've loved for something like that to happen for the Metroid Prime Trilogy.

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It has a hell of a lot more exclusives than 360.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Several of those Wii exclusives I still need to get. :P

Michael0134567

Fragile Dreams

Xenoblade

Super Mario Galaxy 2

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

Sin and Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3 (Well, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is what I want)

Rune Factory: Frontier

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Which ones?Jakandsigz

Fragile Dreams

Xenoblade

Super Mario Galaxy 2

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

Sin and Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3 (Well, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is what I want)

Rune Factory: Frontier

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Which ones?Jakandsigz

Fragile Dreams

Xenoblade

Super Mario Galaxy 2

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

Sin and Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3 (Well, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is what I want)

Rune Factory: Frontier

I don't think so.

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Fragile Dreams

Xenoblade

Super Mario Galaxy 2

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Mario Kart Wii

Sin and Punishment 2

Animal Crossing: City Folk

Metroid Prime 3 (Well, the Metroid Prime Trilogy is what I want)

Rune Factory: Frontier

Michael0134567

I don't think so.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Frontier is on PS3.Jakandsigz

I don't think so.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsigz"] Frontier is on PS3.Jakandsigz

I don't think so.

The general concensus is that Frontier was a ways better.