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#1 Fightingfan
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Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

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#3 nitromuffin
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Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

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Gameplay > graphics

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#4 Anjunaddict
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Every game? Havent they only made 2 for the PS3?
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#5 benbeckman
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it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumb
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#6 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="nitromuffin"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

Gameplay > graphics

You're post isn't relevant. I'm talking graphics.
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#7 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

Well you see RDR is running on the GTA 4 engine, it might explain why it is sub-hd, GTA 4 was too. We don't know anything about The Agent, for all we know it might be on a brand new engine.
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#8 lundy86_4
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Soooooo.... Never have = never will?

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#9 razgriz_101
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Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

Fightingfan

Rockstar north are local boys and their history on PS versions of games has always been top notch.Im sure they will be fiddling away with the engine knowing them.I mean at the time there was a pretty big leap between 3 and Vc and both used the same engine.

Also its been said gameplay triumphs over graphics.Also the fact GTA IV still looks dead awesome on PS3 even more puts your silly ideological one tracked mind in its place.

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#10 Fightingfan
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Every game? Havent they only made 2 for the PS3?Anjunaddict
GTA4 RDR GTA episodes Midnight Club (might of forgot one)
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#11 Richymisiak
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yeah because 1 graphics >>>>>>>>>>>> gameplay 2 we know SO much about agent you can make a statement like that right?
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#12 CaseyWegner
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it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumbbenbeckman

you're acting like there are only a few hundred ps3s out there. ps3 games are capable of selling very well and there are a lot of exclusives. :?

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#13 MFDOOM1983
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Every game? Havent they only made 2 for the PS3?Anjunaddict
3 mid night club was also sub-hd
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#14 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Every game? Havent they only made 2 for the PS3?Fightingfan
GTA4 RDR GTA episodes Midnight Club (might of forgot one)

Midnight club was sub hd?!
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#15 Fightingfan
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yeah because 1 graphics >>>>>>>>>>>> gameplay 2 we know SO much about agent you can make a statement like that right?Richymisiak
Yes, yes I can who would make a new engine from scrap that isn't first party for one platform?
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#16 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Every game? Havent they only made 2 for the PS3?MFDOOM1983
3 mid night club was also sub-hd

Oh I didnt know that. I wonder was table tennis 720p on 360
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#17 Animal-Mother
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Its funny you mention that because GTAIV still got a 10 on PS3.

And how can you pull out that the agent will fail because of RDR being below SubHD

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#18 Boomshaffted
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Wait... Isn't it an MMO? Since when have MMO's been known, or their success been tied to, cutting edge graphics? Case in point: EQ2 was a technical marvel compared to World of Warcraft. Which one was the success between the two?

Edit: The "isn't it an MMO" is a serious question. I really was under the impression that it was, but just looking at a preview article on it, I'm starting to wonder...

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#19 clipse479
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumb

Your right. Its dumb of them to not ignore 35 million consoles. I actually think every developer should start making games exclusive to ps3 cause they can earn some easy money from MS to put it on the 360!
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#20 sayonara89
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumbCaseyWegner

you're acting like there are only a few hundred ps3s out there. ps3 games are capable of selling very well and there are a lot of exclusives. :?

Yeah, like it or not lemmings but PS3 owners buy games: http://www.playstationuniversity.com/ps3-software-sales-outstrip-xbox-360s-ps3-attach-rate-up-to-8-1-3807/
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#21 ItsBriskBaby
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I guess it is going to be a failure because it's not on the Wii or 360 :roll:

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#22 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumbbenbeckman

you're acting like there are only a few hundred ps3s out there. ps3 games are capable of selling very well and there are a lot of exclusives. :?

Yeah, like it or not lemmings but PS3 owners buy games: http://www.playstationuniversity.com/ps3-software-sales-outstrip-xbox-360s-ps3-attach-rate-up-to-8-1-3807/

Try providing a link from a website that doesn't have a console in the name... Thats like playstation magazine reviewing halo. Also, this could sell well exclusivly if it does stay. Metal Gear solid about 6million copies.
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#23 oajlu
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good to know.

so GTA4/RDR on PS3 = Alan Wake on 360.

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#24 benbeckman
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you're acting like there are only a few hundred ps3s out there. ps3 games are capable of selling very well and there are a lot of exclusives. :?

CaseyWegner

depends on your definition of "very well"

and even if rockstar's standards are as low as yours they could still sell at least twice as much with a 360/pc port. they'd be mad not to

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#25 navyguy21
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I guess it is going to be a failure because it's not on the Wii or 360 :roll:

ItsBriskBaby
Cows do the same things lol. On topic, if its exclusive, wouldnt that mean they would optimize the engine for the PS3? It could be like Ninja Gaiden 2 where it was optimized and ran at a higher resolution when they only had to focus on PS3.
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#26 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

good to know.

so GTA4/RDR on PS3 = Alan Wake on 360.

Why does no one here stay relevant, when is the 360 mentioned in my post?
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#27 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're acting like there are only a few hundred ps3s out there. ps3 games are capable of selling very well and there are a lot of exclusives. :?

benbeckman

depends on your definition of "very well"

and even if rockstar's standards are as low as yours they could still sell at least twice as much with a 360/pc port. they'd be mad not to

millions not good enough for you?

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#28 razgriz_101
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it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumbbenbeckman

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/i_teambondi

and team bondi were initally funded by sony, but R* has taken over publishing so why would sony want to throw that money away and not gain something out it? its probably you do this and you get this game kinda stuff.Not hard to acknowledge.

Also i am thinking your a tad of a lem with the way you act as if it were still 2007 and talk the PS3 own and saying 40million is a bad sell? eh the xbox did fine last gen and sold less so your point has become even more jaded mainly cause Halo 2 was one of the best selling games last gen hah.So exclusives aint suicide in a lot of ways a-la outrun 2 (still the definitive version compared to C2C)

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#29 Fizzman
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Well Alan Wake was sub HD and look how horrible that game turned out. Not even the good story and game play was able to fix the sub HD fiasco. I honestly have to play the game with sunglasses or i start to projective vomit because its sooooo bad.

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[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're acting like there are only a few hundred ps3s out there. ps3 games are capable of selling very well and there are a lot of exclusives. :?

Fightingfan

Yeah, like it or not lemmings but PS3 owners buy games: http://www.playstationuniversity.com/ps3-software-sales-outstrip-xbox-360s-ps3-attach-rate-up-to-8-1-3807/

Try providing a link from a website that doesn't have a console in the name... Thats like playstation magazine reviewing halo. Also, this could sell well exclusivly if it does stay. Metal Gear solid about 6million copies.

Numbers come from companies themselves...

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#31 benbeckman
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ps3 actually sold more software for fy09 but as usual cows are missing the point. exclusives sell like crap on the PS3 and rockstar can make twice as much money with a 360/pc port
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#32 nitromuffin
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="nitromuffin"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

Gameplay > graphics

You're post isn't relevant. I'm talking graphics.

it will fail because of 720p graphics your thread is irrelevant
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#33 razgriz_101
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ps3 actually sold more software for fy09 but as usual cows are missing the point. exclusives sell like crap on the PS3 and rockstar can make twice as much money with a 360/pc portbenbeckman

MGS4,Uncharted 2,Little big planet,Heavy rain ALL say hi and how are you doing in your little time bubble called 2007.

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#34 sayonara89
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good to know.

so GTA4/RDR on PS3 = Alan Wake on 360.

oajlu
sub-hd =/= sub=hd One game could be 1152x720 (Halo Reach) and other one 960x540 (Alan Wake)... GTA4 and RDR are 1152x640.
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#35 savagetwinkie
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I came in here to argue my 8 ball said other wise but then realized your argument is completly irrelavent to the success of a game...

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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]ps3 actually sold more software for fy09 but as usual cows are missing the point. exclusives sell like crap on the PS3 and rockstar can make twice as much money with a 360/pc port

You do realize there may be contracts in place?
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#37 benbeckman
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millions not good enough for you?

CaseyWegner

millions not good enough for rockstar

at least not the 1-2 million it could realistically sell on PS3

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yeah because 1 graphics >>>>>>>>>>>> gameplay 2 we know SO much about agent you can make a statement like that right?Richymisiak
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#39 sayonara89
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]ps3 actually sold more software for fy09 but as usual cows are missing the point. exclusives sell like crap on the PS3 and rockstar can make twice as much money with a 360/pc port

Yeah, 5 milions for MGS4 are crap... Over 3m for U1 and U2, Resistance etc. Only 360 exclusives that sold more than any PS3 exclusive are Gears 1, Gears 2 (MGS4 is close) and Halo 3.
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#40 Rza_rectah
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it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumbbenbeckman
its obviously a paid exclusive like how MS paid for gta 4 and bonus content.
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#41 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

millions not good enough for you?

benbeckman

millions not good enough for rockstar

at least not the 1-2 million it could realistically sell on PS3

i asked if they were not good enough for you.

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#42 benbeckman
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You do realize there may be contracts in place?

i do i also realise that rockstar is a business and they may be interested in making 2-3 times as much money than they could with a PS3 exclusive
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#43 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Oh no, sub-HD, God help us we can't get good graphics.
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#44 sayonara89
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

millions not good enough for you?

benbeckman

millions not good enough for rockstar

at least not the 1-2 million it could realistically sell on PS3

Yeah, like GTA4 :lol: Go back to 2007...
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#45 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You do realize there may be contracts in place?benbeckman
i do i also realise that rockstar is a business and they may be interested in making 2-3 times as much money than they could with a PS3 exclusive

LMAO and you know how much sony paid for this game? thats the point animal mother is establishing.
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#46 ninjapirate2000
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As long as it doesn't look like a wii game no one will care, unless you go by the hyperbolic accusations by SW posters.

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#47 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="benbeckman"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

millions not good enough for you?

millions not good enough for rockstar

at least not the 1-2 million it could realistically sell on PS3

Yeah, like GTA4 :lol: Go back to 2007...

Yes, but you're comparing a "house hold name" versus a new IP no one has heard of.
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#48 donalbane
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

I played GTA 4 on PS3, and it looked pretty darn good. And on the other side of the aisle, nobody (well, nobody reasonable) would call Alan Wake or Halo 3 a graphical failure, and both of those run below 720p.
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#49 nervmeister
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exclusives sell like crap on the PS3 benbeckman
That was easily proved wrong LONG ago.
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#50 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]ps3 actually sold more software for fy09 but as usual cows are missing the point. exclusives sell like crap on the PS3 and rockstar can make twice as much money with a 360/pc portsayonara89
Yeah, 5 milions for MGS4 are crap... Over 3m for U1 and U2, Resistance etc. Only 360 exclusives that sold more than any PS3 exclusive are Gears 1, Gears 2 (MGS4 is close) and Halo 3.

not to mention the the ps3 having sold more overall games back in 09.