The Agent (rockstars Ps3 exclusive) will fail

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#101 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="nitromuffin"]

Gameplay > graphics

Merex760

You're post isn't relevant. I'm talking graphics.

"You are" post isn't relevant. Wow. I actually find his post very relevant. I'd buy the game with better gameplay and sub-HD graphics any day over the game with the best graphics and crap gameplay.

So you don't find movies entertaining? They have beatiful images.

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#102 Zoso-8
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] You do realize there may be contracts in place?

i do i also realise that rockstar is a business and they may be interested in making 2-3 times as much money than they could with a PS3 exclusive

So could Epic with the GeOW franchise. Mass Effect franchise. Every franchise that isn't Halo. And?
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#103 CaseyWegner
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i asked if they were not good enough for you.

benbeckman

what kind of a question is that? they're irrelevant to me as i'm not making the game or funding its development

it's not that hard to understand. agent is developed and published by a third party. the third party is a business that wants to make as much money as possible. a pc/360 port will allow them to double their money pretty inexpensively

why would they make it exclusive to the console with the lowest sales of exclusives, highest development costs and lowest install base?

because of factors you aren't aware of. :|

and i was asking you because you seem to think that selling millions of copies = selling like crap.

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#104 Merex760
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[QUOTE="Merex760"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] You're post isn't relevant. I'm talking graphics.Fightingfan

"You are" post isn't relevant. Wow. I actually find his post very relevant. I'd buy the game with better gameplay and sub-HD graphics any day over the game with the best graphics and crap gameplay.

So you don't find movies entertaining? They have beatiful images.

Completely unrelated to games. Movies aren't something I play. Games existed once upon a time without HD graphics, and in most cases those games were better. In relation to your movie comment, just because Transformers has fantastic CGI, that doesn't make it a good movie, like There Will be Blood.

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#105 DarKnLiTe7
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[QUOTE="Merex760"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] You're post isn't relevant. I'm talking graphics.Fightingfan

"You are" post isn't relevant. Wow. I actually find his post very relevant. I'd buy the game with better gameplay and sub-HD graphics any day over the game with the best graphics and crap gameplay.

So you don't find movies entertaining? They have beatiful images.

Well movies don't have gameplay.
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#106 HavocV3
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in System Wars, and the care for resolution, possibly. which is insignificant in the real world.

can't wait to see some double standards emerge, after the whole month of Alan Wake's examination.

in fact, RDR could provide enough. hilarious how draw distances suddenly become important with GTA IV/possible RDR, they weren't for Alan Wake, which was subHD.

can't wait.:|

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#107 Pelon208
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[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Cliche much?Fightingfan

to be honest I wanted to use that pic a long ago, but seriously you think that AW and MGS4 are bad games? really??

No dude, Just look at my PS3 tag.. I have all the major consoles I'm just simply wanting responses from people.

So you just want a fanboy fight?? hahahahaha i love that

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#108 x8VXU6
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

nitromuffin

Gameplay > graphics

I guess u skipped the part "the graphical department" FAIL:P

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#109 BPoole96
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That didn't article didn't even mention anything about Agent

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#110 0rin
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i asked if they were not good enough for you.

CaseyWegner

what kind of a question is that? they're irrelevant to me as i'm not making the game or funding its development

it's not that hard to understand. agent is developed and published by a third party. the third party is a business that wants to make as much money as possible. a pc/360 port will allow them to double their money pretty inexpensively

why would they make it exclusive to the console with the lowest sales of exclusives, highest development costs and lowest install base?

because of factors you aren't aware of. :|

and i was asking you because you seem to think that selling millions of copies = selling like crap.

Casey, It seems to me this guy is just constantly dodging your point and appears to be channeling the thoughts and opinions of Rockstar North... since he keeps pretending to know how they think, because they are business, and all businesses think/behave the same. Back to reality, It is currently exclusive. Judging by the way most other third party "exclusives" went multiplat, the odds are pretty good of Agent doing the same thing.. but I have a feeling Sony has this one in the bag. They may have paid good money to keep it exclusive. they may not have. we don't even know... but IF R* decides to keep it exclusive, I don't think they'll have any problem selling 1m+ copies, which is pretty good for a new IP. at any rate, We only know enough about Agent to fill out a few sentances.. Agent is a 1970's espionage/action game based around the time of the peak of the cold war. Rockstar touts it as the most amazing action game ever or some such thing. There is currently a gun in the games logo. Nothing else of significance is known yet. Wait a few weeks till E3, I'm sure we'll hear/see more details on Agent at that time. Until then, lets assume Rockstar built an engine specifically for the PS3, like most other exclusive titles do.
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#111 gammon56
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[QUOTE="benbeckman"]it wont be exclusive putting an exclusive on the worst selling console of the generation is suicide and rockstar aren't that dumbclipse479
Your right. Its dumb of them to not ignore 35 million consoles. I actually think every developer should start making games exclusive to ps3 cause they can earn some easy money from MS to put it on the 360!

lol your right. Sony is losing bad in profits not units sold which is verry close to the 360.
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#112 cametall
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Wasn't Halo 3 sub-HD? Or am I wrong (if so please correct me!)?
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#113 SgtKevali
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You can't know that.

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#114 Fightingfan
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Wasn't Halo 3 sub-HD? Or am I wrong (if so please correct me!)?cametall
Yes.
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#115 mushi799
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I like how people or fanboys are making new category, lol since when was there a sub-hd group. Anything above dvd quality (480p) is HD.

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#116 bad_fur_day
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gtfo.

Agent will be teh greatest game ever made.

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#117 GramDubs
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Is it jusy me or does the PS3 version look more realistic, the 360 version looks cartoony. Wasnt Alan Wake at 540p and lems were calling it graphics king.

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#118 brickdoctor
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We don't even know anything about the game. :?

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#119 Fightingfan
Member since 2010 • 38011 Posts

I like how people or fanboys are making new category, lol since when was there a sub-hd group. Anything above dvd quality (480p) is HD.

mushi799
My playstation ID is fake I guess....
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#120 Modern_Unit
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Is it jusy me or does the PS3 version look more realistic, the 360 version looks cartoony. Wasnt Alan Wake at 540p and lems were calling it graphics king.

GramDubs

Tbh, Borderlands does look cartoony err..nevermind...wait so BC2 is cartoony? Never noticed that.

Keep drinking that Sony kool-aid

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#121 HAZE-Unit
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Looks like this game is going to be a failure in the graphical department.

Rockstar can't even make an engine that runs HD on the playstation platform.

( Every game made by rockstar on the ps3 runs below 720p, RDR adds to the list )

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247104

Fightingfan

I saw some neighbors freaking out the other day, going out to the street screaming for help, I asked them whats wrong they said "SUB HD OMG CALL 911 :shock:"

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#122 BPoole96
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I love this double standard of sub-HD games being bad. Alan Wake is sub-HD yet everyone was hyping it through the roof. Agent MIGHT not be HD (this is pure speculation just because the other 2 games Rockstar has done on PS3 have not been HD) and all of a sudden its doomed for failure? I guess all of you cancelled your pre orders Alan Wake once you discovered Remedy lied about the game being in HD

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#123 Ninten007
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There are alot of subHD 360 games that are very successful such as Halo and Alan Wake. But funnily enough the lemmings talk how great the gameplay is in those games.

Besides the majority of ppl out there will not care.

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#124 Loco_Live
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Name ONE Rockstar game that has good graphics...exactly. You can't. RDR looks good but GTA has some of the worst graphics...even for their time, when each game was released.

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#125 DethSkematik
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Well, sub-HD or not, you can't deny those games are freaking gorgeous! ;)
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#126 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It's gonna fail because it isn't HD? :lol: Oh my, System Wars is hilarious sometimes.
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#127 kyacat
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Before we call the agent a failure lets first see some trailers and game play of the agent
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#128 ultraking
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wait... we've not seen one screen or video, and people are already saying fail?

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#129 razgriz_101
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There are alot of subHD 360 games that are very successful such as Halo and Alan Wake. But funnily enough the lemmings talk how great the gameplay is in those games.

Besides the majority of ppl out there will not care.

Ninten007

also the biggest selling game of this gen is Sub HD lol.Neither is it THAT noticeable to the average player.

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#130 Androvinus
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and havent those two games received the two highest scores possible, a 10 and a 9.5. so with a track record like that, rockstar is destined to fail :roll:

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#131 bobbleheadrogue
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Cows:"Your Alan Wake and Halo are sub-HD"

Lem: "Gameplay > Graphics"

*Lem goes onto the internet and finds out that Agent has a CHANCE of being sub HD*

Lem: "AHAHAHAHA...PS3 is BOUND TO FAIL WITH A GAME LIKE THAT!"

Cow:...

Such is life on System Wars :)

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#132 Dibdibdobdobo
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Rockstar make lousy games.... Who cares.
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#133 darthvader1993
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I find this funny, its a reversal of the usual situation. Now the 360's graphics look better than the PS3's!

Didn't many people but a PS3 because it had better graphics capability than any other console?

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#134 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="sayonara89"][QUOTE="benbeckman"]

millions not good enough for rockstar

at least not the 1-2 million it could realistically sell on PS3

Fightingfan

Yeah, like GTA4 :lol: Go back to 2007...

Yes, but you're comparing a "house hold name" versus a new IP no one has heard of.

With a big "from the creators of GTA4" on the box?