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#51 helium_flash
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I doubt any of them will be anything ambitious. I wouldn't be surprised if Hideo and Suda just created a puzzle game, and then Suda and RE4 creator created some cartoony game that will be kinda lame. No More Heroes looks interesting though.

Nothing realistic, or epic. Just ho-hum lameness. I could be wrong though.

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wow talk about rushing to conclusions, esp considering the only one announced is no more hero's and it looks awesome

No More Heroes looks decent.  You dont even swing the Wiimote to attack, you press the A button.  Just because a game has a cool art style doesn't mean it's going to be a great game.

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#52 Rhubarb9
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Cows will get owned!

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but not lemmings, they don't like japanese games.
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Wow. that sounds almost too good to be true. 

I can't wait to see the results. :D

 

[spoiler] Btw, when did TCs decided to suddenly stop linking their URLs.:? [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]

I doubt any of them will be anything ambitious. I wouldn't be surprised if Hideo and Suda just created a puzzle game, and then Suda and RE4 creator created some cartoony game that will be kinda lame. No More Heroes looks interesting though.

Nothing realistic, or epic. Just ho-hum lameness. I could be wrong though.

helium_flash

wow talk about rushing to conclusions, esp considering the only one announced is no more hero's and it looks awesome

No More Heroes looks decent.  You dont even swing the Wiimote to attack, you press the A button.  Just because a game has a cool art style doesn't mean it's going to be a great game.

...or great photorealistic graphics... 

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#55 Endfinal
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Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii.
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Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

And just who are you to tell him or think where should he work on??? maybe you're just jealous. you cows and lemmings love to bash the Wii because of its lack of third party support now even your famous game developers: Shinji Mikami(Resident Evil 5), Hideo Kojima(MGS4) are working on a Wii project. Do they make CRAP games? I don't think so. So, I can see now that the Wii is getting more third pary support in the future that are great because of the great game developers making games on it.

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RE4 rocked.

But Wii is still garbage, though :lol:

Until i see those games physically played in real time on Wii hardware and those games will actually use the Wii hardware, I'll finally shut up and convince myself to buy a Wii.

Until then, the Wii is simplistic casual garbage. :) 

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#58 Endfinal
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RE4 rocked.

But Wii is still garbage, though :lol:

Until i see those games physically played in real time on Wii hardware and those games will actually use the Wii hardware, I'll finally shut up and convince myself to buy a Wii.

Until then, the Wii is simplistic casual garbage. :)

M8ingSeezun

 

Indeed. The only worthwhile games worth playing on the Wii were originally made on the Gamecube.  

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#59 lordlors
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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

RE4 rocked.

But Wii is still garbage, though :lol:

Until i see those games physically played in real time on Wii hardware and those games will actually use the Wii hardware, I'll finally shut up and convince myself to buy a Wii.

Until then, the Wii is simplistic casual garbage. :)

Endfinal

 

Indeed. The only worthwhile games worth playing on the Wii were originally made on the Gamecube.

That will be FOR NOW. Later on, i think Wii will have great third party games. 

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I am so excited..
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Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

Go away.

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[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. ArisShadows

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.  

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#63 pp222
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Haha, fun to see all the PS3 fanboys making up all kind of excuses. This is huge news and anyone that says otherwise is just stupid.

Looking forward to seeing what kind og game they are. :)

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial?  The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right. 

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[QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Tylendal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get hundreds of AAA third party titles." 

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[QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Tylendal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

Cows and lemmings are getting jealous. Now, they're making excuses and are in denial. Wii will be getting great third party support in the future. 

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I am so excited..ArisShadows

Dont touch urself. 

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get HUNDREDS of AAA third party titles."

Not really hundreds but wii will be getting great third party titles. As stated in this thread Hideo Kojima creator of MGS and Shinji Mikami creator of Resident Evil will be creating wii projects and does that mean more CRAP games???  LOL i've read many threads saying wii won't be getting third party support and thay're damn wrong.Square Enix is showing love for the DS soon they will on wii. Take Two is taking nintendo as their priority

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Cows will get owned!farnham
Not really understanding this part. So how are the cows owned? Because the Wii gets 3 exlcusive games? Not really understanding seeing as how every system will have its exclusives. Are you trying to say these games will be better then all of the PS3 games?
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#70 M8ingSeezun
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[QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

RE4 rocked.

But Wii is still garbage, though :lol:

Until i see those games physically played in real time on Wii hardware and those games will actually use the Wii hardware, I'll finally shut up and convince myself to buy a Wii.

Until then, the Wii is simplistic casual garbage. :)

lordlors

 

Indeed. The only worthwhile games worth playing on the Wii were originally made on the Gamecube.

That will be FOR NOW. Later on, i think Wii will have great third party games.

But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get hundreds of AAA third party titles."

Please tell me why it's selling.  Also, who are you to say that it only has 2 games worth playing.  I could find thousands of people who disagree with you, as game quality is all a matter of opinion.  Please tell me, why it is selling so well. 

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Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

People like you bash the wii for not havinggood 3rd party support, but then you bash Kojima for developing games for the wii? That isnt very logical.

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Wow, Kojima's making a game for Wii?  Well, I can't say I'm completely surprised, he did praise the Wii a lot prior to its release.
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[QUOTE="farnham"]Cows will get owned!Ibacai
Not really understanding this part. So how are the cows owned? Because the Wii gets 3 exlcusive games? Not really understanding seeing as how every system will have its exclusives. Are you trying to say these games will be better then all of the PS3 games?

Every system does have exclusives, but how many of them can boast that they lose exclusives like the PS3? :D
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[QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Tylendal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get hundreds of AAA third party titles."

Please tell me why it's selling. Also, who are you to say that it only has 2 games worth playing. I could find thousands of people who disagree with you, as game quality is all a matter of opinion. Please tell me, why it is selling so well.

 

Because it's new and cheap? It certainly isn't selling because of it's amazing game lineup.  

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get hundreds of AAA third party titles."

Please tell me why it's selling. Also, who are you to say that it only has 2 games worth playing. I could find thousands of people who disagree with you, as game quality is all a matter of opinion. Please tell me, why it is selling so well.

 

Because it's new and cheap? It certainly isn't selling because of it's amazing game lineup.

Let's see.... Gamecube=new & cheap.  Try again. 

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Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

:lol: And if he makes Zone of Enders 3 exclusive for the Wii you will be severly owned.

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[QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Tylendal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get hundreds of AAA third party titles."

Please tell me why it's selling. Also, who are you to say that it only has 2 games worth playing. I could find thousands of people who disagree with you, as game quality is all a matter of opinion. Please tell me, why it is selling so well.

 

Because it's new and cheap? It certainly isn't selling because of it's amazing game lineup.

Let's see.... Gamecube=new & cheap. Try again.

 

What point are you trying to make? It IS selling because it's new and cheap, or it's just selling to the same Nintendo fanbase from the previous 10 years.  

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But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

M8ingSeezun
Actually, we do know that great third party games will be coming. When big publishers like EA report a 12% decrease in profits due to the fact that they misjudged the Wii and had very few projects for it, they will take notice and start to develop the very good games for it. This is the reason why EA made a specific Wii studio to make games from the ground up. So many developers were caught off guard and producing games for a limited user base for the PS3. They are playing catch up now and soon they will have more games for the Wii. This is no longer GC pt. 2.
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Kojima should be working on or sometime in the future on ZoE3. He doesn't need to waste his talent on the Wii. Endfinal

Go away.

 

Typical Wii owner in denial. Good thing you have that 360 to play or you would be finding yourself playing the Wii every 2 months.

And you're not in denial? The Wii has sold 6.5 mil in under five months, it's obviously doing something right.

 

What does sales have to do with good games? The fact that the Wii has been selling and only has two games worth playing is not a good thing, but I bet you will come up with the "if it keeps selling we will magically get hundreds of AAA third party titles."

Please tell me why it's selling. Also, who are you to say that it only has 2 games worth playing. I could find thousands of people who disagree with you, as game quality is all a matter of opinion. Please tell me, why it is selling so well.

 

Because it's new and cheap? It certainly isn't selling because of it's amazing game lineup.

Let's see.... Gamecube=new & cheap. Try again.

 

What point are you trying to make? It IS selling because it's new and cheap, or it's just selling to the same Nintendo fanbase from the previous 10 years.

Wii is selling far better than the Gamecube, and has far more demand, so being "New & Cheap" isn't whats selling it, otherwise the Gamecube wouldn't have flopped. 

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[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="Endfinal"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

RE4 rocked.

But Wii is still garbage, though :lol:

Until i see those games physically played in real time on Wii hardware and those games will actually use the Wii hardware, I'll finally shut up and convince myself to buy a Wii.

Until then, the Wii is simplistic casual garbage. :)

M8ingSeezun

 

Indeed. The only worthwhile games worth playing on the Wii were originally made on the Gamecube.

That will be FOR NOW. Later on, i think Wii will have great third party games.

But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

Thats still all speculation. Have you SPOKEN about Shinji Mikami and Hideo Kojima on what they'll be making??? I think not but nevertheless, it will be a great game. 

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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

Zhengi

Actually, we do know that great third party games will be coming. When big publishers like EA report a 12% decrease in profits due to the fact that they misjudged the Wii and had very few projects for it, they will take notice and start to develop the very good games for it. This is the reason why EA made a specific Wii studio to make games from the ground up. So many developers were caught off guard and producing games for a limited user base for the PS3. They are playing catch up now and soon they will have more games for the Wii. This is no longer GC pt. 2.

You seem to forget about the Majority that make up the Wii userbase. And that same Majority will continue to grow with the Wii market. Hence the skyrocket sales of Wii. You really believe that same Majority will buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii? You really believe serious gamers will be convince enough to buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii instead of PS3 or 360?

Get real.  

You sheep consistantly ride on the idea of Wii sales = more serious 3rd party games.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

M8ingSeezun

Actually, we do know that great third party games will be coming. When big publishers like EA report a 12% decrease in profits due to the fact that they misjudged the Wii and had very few projects for it, they will take notice and start to develop the very good games for it. This is the reason why EA made a specific Wii studio to make games from the ground up. So many developers were caught off guard and producing games for a limited user base for the PS3. They are playing catch up now and soon they will have more games for the Wii. This is no longer GC pt. 2.

You seem to forget about the Majority that make up the Wii userbase. And that same Majority will continue to grow with the Wii market. Hence the skyrocket sales of Wii. You really believe that same Majority will buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii? You really believe serious gamers will be convince enough to buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii instead of PS3 or 360?

Get real.

You sheep consistantly ride on the idea of Wii sales = more serious 3rd party games.

Some serious gamers I know are convinced enough because of motion-sensing resulting in more immersion to the game.

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="farnham"]Cows will get owned!Zhengi
Not really understanding this part. So how are the cows owned? Because the Wii gets 3 exlcusive games? Not really understanding seeing as how every system will have its exclusives. Are you trying to say these games will be better then all of the PS3 games?

Every system does have exclusives, but how many of them can boast that they lose exclusives like the PS3? :D

While it has lost a few don't try to make it sound like they've lost them all. The list for the PS3 is still quite large (Just like the other 2).
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Seeing as endfinal doesn't have an answer, I'll answer it for him.

You might think that there are only 2 games worth playing on the Wii, but guess what?  I think there are only two games worth playing on the PS3.  Who's right? Who's wrong?  The answer:  We both are.  Whether or not a game is good is all a matter of opinion.  It seems that the Wii has games that appeal to more people than the PS3 or 360 does, so yes, it is selling on account of it's game line-up.  Just becuse you don't like them, doesn't mean everybody else doesn't either.

Now if there were any justice in this world, you'd have an epipheny after reading this, throw away your life, and go join the Haree-Krishna.   However, you'll probably just laugh at this post and throw out another worthless "argument" (for lack of a better word).  Feel free to take either course of action, but I strongly encourage the former.

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

M8ingSeezun

Actually, we do know that great third party games will be coming. When big publishers like EA report a 12% decrease in profits due to the fact that they misjudged the Wii and had very few projects for it, they will take notice and start to develop the very good games for it. This is the reason why EA made a specific Wii studio to make games from the ground up. So many developers were caught off guard and producing games for a limited user base for the PS3. They are playing catch up now and soon they will have more games for the Wii. This is no longer GC pt. 2.

You seem to forget about the Majority that make up the Wii userbase. And that same Majority will continue to grow with the Wii market. Hence the skyrocket sales of Wii. You really believe that same Majority will buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii? You really believe serious gamers will be convince enough to buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii instead of PS3 or 360?

Get real.

You sheep consistantly ride on the idea of Wii sales = more serious 3rd party games.

Why wouldn't they want Mercenaries 2 on the Wii instead of the PS3/360? Didn't Madden 07 get the best tag out of all the systems? EA is also promoting the Wii version of Tiger Woods PGA more than the other versions. So just because a game doesn't have the ubergraphics that the PS3/360 have doesn't mean the game is inferior. The game can be better on the Wii based on the fun factor.

So fanboys like you who consistently think that the Wii isn't a serious gaming console are wrong. And rather than give an opinion, the fact remains that the console that has sold the most units has won each gen and had the most games. So stop using your opinion as if it were fact. Now I'm not saying that the 360/PS3 won't have serious games, but to think that the Wii wouldn't have any is hilarious.
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="farnham"]Cows will get owned!Ibacai
Not really understanding this part. So how are the cows owned? Because the Wii gets 3 exlcusive games? Not really understanding seeing as how every system will have its exclusives. Are you trying to say these games will be better then all of the PS3 games?

Every system does have exclusives, but how many of them can boast that they lose exclusives like the PS3? :D

While it has lost a few don't try to make it sound like they've lost them all. The list for the PS3 is still quite large (Just like the other 2).

I didn't say or even hint that the PS3 has lost all their exclusives, but you have to admit that they have lost quite a few big ones like GTAIV and Devil May Cry 4 :)
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I feel... -aroused-
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Lol I can't decide which one of them is going to come out of the closet first.
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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

But you don't know that. That's all speculation. Consumers are the deciding factors for what type of games are on the system. Once the casual consumers, who are the majority, lap up Wii hardware like breast milk, more likely 3rd parties and smaller independent companies will flock to the Wii.........creating CASUAL simplistic games for the EXPANDED Casual gaming market.

If developers see this happening at a geometric rate, which is likely to happen with Wii, there's NO POINT for other traditional 3rd parties like Konami, for example, to SOPHISTICATE their games for a Casual Wii audience, since the COMPLEX games are NOT likely or LESS likely to sell on Wii. That's why 3rd parties right now, with games like MoH Vanguard or Far Cry, are not taking the Wii hardware into serious consideration. What's the POINT??

Like GC, NO one, and I mean the serious gamers out there, buys a Nintendo console just for 3rd party games. Which explains why 3rd party games have been a drought with GC and the trend continues with Wii, right now. Sure, Wii sales will skyrocket towards space, but does that necessarily guarantee SERIOUS 3rd party games on Wii? I doubt it.

Remember to consider:

Casuals, Sheep and some Serious gamers love Wii = recent Wii sales explosion.

Casuals (parents, grandma, seasoned gamers, non-gamers) = MAJORITY

Serious gamers (manticores or multiplatform gamers) = MINORITY

Fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows) = MINORITY

Zhengi

Actually, we do know that great third party games will be coming. When big publishers like EA report a 12% decrease in profits due to the fact that they misjudged the Wii and had very few projects for it, they will take notice and start to develop the very good games for it. This is the reason why EA made a specific Wii studio to make games from the ground up. So many developers were caught off guard and producing games for a limited user base for the PS3. They are playing catch up now and soon they will have more games for the Wii. This is no longer GC pt. 2.

You seem to forget about the Majority that make up the Wii userbase. And that same Majority will continue to grow with the Wii market. Hence the skyrocket sales of Wii. You really believe that same Majority will buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii? You really believe serious gamers will be convince enough to buy Mercenaries 2 for Wii instead of PS3 or 360?

Get real.

You sheep consistantly ride on the idea of Wii sales = more serious 3rd party games.

Why wouldn't they want Mercenaries 2 on the Wii instead of the PS3/360? Didn't Madden 07 get the best tag out of all the systems? EA is also promoting the Wii version of Tiger Woods PGA more than the other versions. So just because a game doesn't have the ubergraphics that the PS3/360 have doesn't mean the game is inferior. The game can be better on the Wii based on the fun factor.

So fanboys like you who consistently think that the Wii isn't a serious gaming console are wrong. And rather than give an opinion, the fact remains that the console that has sold the most units has won each gen and had the most games. So stop using your opinion as if it were fact. Now I'm not saying that the 360/PS3 won't have serious games, but to think that the Wii wouldn't have any is hilarious.

And you're assuming they will? Maybe the small MINORITY of serious gamers that make up the Wii market will. You seem to forget the MAJORITY who are responsible for the Wii sales ;) Remember the CASUALS? THE PREMIER TARGET GROUP Nintendo is AIMING?? Exactly. Simple dosage of reality for you Sheep...........serious 3rd party games NEVER sell on Nintendo's console dating back as far as N64.

Even if traditional serious 3rd party games DO show up on Wii, who's gonna buy them? The Casuals who are the majority and knows NOTHING about gaming? or The Small Gaming informed Minority?...............guess what?..........The Minority ;)

Again, consider the Wii userbase, and consider all the economic factors that tie into gaming trends regarding 3rd party support.

 

 

 

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So is this actually true or not?

I wouldn't call them the great 3.. but they are very insane in a good way and this would show the wii's strategy is working by attracting creative minds.

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http://ruliweb2.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=8248&table=game_nin02&main=nin

 

 

Ownage is imminent..

 

Mikami Shinji creator of Resident Evil 4

Kojima Hideo creator of Metal Gear Solid

Suda Goichi creator of Killer 7

 

those three creators announced 3 exclusive titles for the wii

 

One of em is already shown.. and its no more heroes..

the other one will be developed by Mikami Shinji and Suda Goichi

the third one by Suda Goichi and Kojima Hideo..

 

 

Cows will get owned!

 

farnham

Why are their jeans so tight? And high heels? 

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And you're assuming they will? Maybe the small MINORITY of serious gamers that make up the Wii market will. You seem to forget the MAJORITY who are responsible for the Wii sales ;) Remember the CASUALS? THE PREMIER TARGET GROUP Nintendo is AIMING?? Exactly. Simple dosage of reality for you Sheep...........serious 3rd party games NEVER sell on Nintendo's console dating back as far as N64.

Even if traditional serious 3rd party games DO show up on Wii, who's gonna buy them? The Casuals who are the majority and knows NOTHING about gaming? or The Small Gaming informed Minority?...............guess what?..........The Minority ;)

Again, consider the Wii userbase, and consider all the economic factors that tie into gaming trends regarding 3rd party support.

M8ingSeezun
So the casuals for the PS2 count, but the casuals for the Wii don't? If the PS2 was able to do it with all the casuals they got, why can't the Wii?
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[QUOTE="farnham"]

http://ruliweb2.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=8248&table=game_nin02&main=nin

 

 

Ownage is imminent..

 

Mikami Shinji creator of Resident Evil 4

Kojima Hideo creator of Metal Gear Solid

Suda Goichi creator of Killer 7

 

those three creators announced 3 exclusive titles for the wii

 

One of em is already shown.. and its no more heroes..

the other one will be developed by Mikami Shinji and Suda Goichi

the third one by Suda Goichi and Kojima Hideo..

 

 

Cows will get owned!

 

tomarlyn

Why are their jeans so tight? And high heels?

 

Because that's the hip trend in Japan...  

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[QUOTE="farnham"]

http://ruliweb2.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=8248&table=game_nin02&main=nin

 

 

Ownage is imminent..

 

Mikami Shinji creator of Resident Evil 4

Kojima Hideo creator of Metal Gear Solid

Suda Goichi creator of Killer 7

 

those three creators announced 3 exclusive titles for the wii

 

One of em is already shown.. and its no more heroes..

the other one will be developed by Mikami Shinji and Suda Goichi

the third one by Suda Goichi and Kojima Hideo..

 

 

Cows will get owned!

 

tomarlyn

Why are their jeans so tight? And high heels? 

Lol I was thinking the same thing, when i saw the pic I thought it was brokeback mountain 2.

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If this is true it will be ownage :shock:
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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

And you're assuming they will? Maybe the small MINORITY of serious gamers that make up the Wii market will. You seem to forget the MAJORITY who are responsible for the Wii sales ;) Remember the CASUALS? THE PREMIER TARGET GROUP Nintendo is AIMING?? Exactly. Simple dosage of reality for you Sheep...........serious 3rd party games NEVER sell on Nintendo's console dating back as far as N64.

Even if traditional serious 3rd party games DO show up on Wii, who's gonna buy them? The Casuals who are the majority and knows NOTHING about gaming? or The Small Gaming informed Minority?...............guess what?..........The Minority ;)

Again, consider the Wii userbase, and consider all the economic factors that tie into gaming trends regarding 3rd party support.

 

 

 

Zhengi

So the casuals for the PS2 count, but the casuals for the Wii don't? If the PS2 was able to do it with all the casuals they got, why can't the Wii?

PS2 is NOT exactly a casual system. I could apply this to Halo games as well. People who label them "casual" are fanboys who want to be different. Did Parents, grandma, non-gamers literally bought a PS2 to play MGS2 or DMC? No.

The PS2 sales can be attributed to many things: kids, teenieboppers, and the serious gamers. Kids are the majority on this part. 

PS2 sold so much because of many factors and yes "kiddieness and teh Mature" are involve here. That's how agressive marketing works. PS2 moved DVD sales at such a geometric rate. It's $300 price tag was a sweet spot for many consumers during the PS2's early game drought. People bought DVDs rather than Games. The PS2 DVD player was the 1st attraction for consumers. This became the domino effect that would lead to FF series being secured with the PS2 platform and leading to the one and only........GTA series. The GTA series was like a gold-rush for violent hungary teens and kiddyboppers desperate to grow hair and who enjoyed Eminem's music. Because of this game along with MGS2, Twisted Metal Black, etc, the PS2 platform became the console of choice for Mature themed games, and eventually, more 3rd parties began to notice the skyrocketing sales of PS2 machines. In reality, in the post-911 world, violence do sell. That's the way it is. That's what basically led the PS2 in gaining more serious 3rd party games. Kid's and teens' curiousity with violent games chose the PS2 and Xbox as thier choice. With only GC stuck with 1st party games and left over 3rd party scraps. 

With Wii, violence is not the selling point and neither can it play DVDs. But the Wii-remote definitely IS the selling point.

Parents and families see this. Casuals, non-gamers, seasoned gamers and the serious gamers see this as well.  When casuals see the Wii, it's inviting, simple and fun. This leads casuals to believing the Wii is NOT a complicated machine, which was Nintendo's intention, but a simplistic machine for people to play and have fun. Therefore, the Wii market, will eventually be flooded with Casuals as the majority consumers, Nintendo's intention to expand the market. Therefore more games will be suited for them. 

3rd party worked for PS2 because the majority were violent hungry kids, teenyboppers, and serious gamers. Violent themed games (GTASA) and the DVD player were the selling point for PS2.

Traditional 3rd party games WON'T work for Wii because the majority are casuals yearning for that simple fun, along with the minority serious gamers and sheep.  The Wii mote is the prime selling point for the Wii and Nintendo. 

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

And you're assuming they will? Maybe the small MINORITY of serious gamers that make up the Wii market will. You seem to forget the MAJORITY who are responsible for the Wii sales ;) Remember the CASUALS? THE PREMIER TARGET GROUP Nintendo is AIMING?? Exactly. Simple dosage of reality for you Sheep...........serious 3rd party games NEVER sell on Nintendo's console dating back as far as N64.

Even if traditional serious 3rd party games DO show up on Wii, who's gonna buy them? The Casuals who are the majority and knows NOTHING about gaming? or The Small Gaming informed Minority?...............guess what?..........The Minority ;)

Again, consider the Wii userbase, and consider all the economic factors that tie into gaming trends regarding 3rd party support.

 

 

 

M8ingSeezun

So the casuals for the PS2 count, but the casuals for the Wii don't? If the PS2 was able to do it with all the casuals they got, why can't the Wii?

PS2 is NOT exactly a casual system. I could apply this to Halo games as well. People who label them "casual" are fanboys who want to be different. Did Parents, grandma, non-gamers literally bought a PS2 to play MGS2 or DMC? No.

The PS2 sales can be attributed to many things: kids, teenieboppers, and the serious gamers. Kids are the majority on this part.

PS2 sold so much because of many factors and yes "kiddieness and teh Mature" are involve here. That's how agressive marketing works. PS2 moved DVD sales at such a geometric rate. It's $300 price tag was a sweet spot for many consumers during the PS2's early game drought. People bought DVDs rather than Games. The PS2 DVD player was the 1st attraction for consumers. This became the domino effect that would lead to FF series being secured with the PS2 platform and leading to the one and only........GTA series. The GTA series was like a gold-rush for violent hungary teens and kiddyboppers desperate to grow hair and who enjoyed Eminem's music. Because of this game along with MGS2, Twisted Metal Black, etc, the PS2 platform became the console of choice for Mature themed games, and eventually, more 3rd parties began to notice the skyrocketing sales of PS2 machines. In reality, in the post-911 world, violence do sell. That's the way it is. That's what basically led the PS2 in gaining more serious 3rd party games. Kid's and teens' curiousity with violent games chose the PS2 and Xbox as thier choice. With only GC stuck with 1st party games and left over 3rd party scraps.

With Wii, violence is not the selling point and neither can it play DVDs. But the Wii-remote definitely IS the selling point.

Parents and families see this. Casuals, non-gamers, seasoned gamers and the serious gamers see this as well. When casuals see the Wii, it's inviting, simple and fun. This leads casuals to believing the Wii is NOT a complicated machine, which was Nintendo's intention, but a simplistic machine for people to play and have fun. Therefore, the Wii market, will eventually be flooded with Casuals as the majority consumers, Nintendo's intention to expand the market. Therefore more games will be suited for them.

3rd party worked for PS2 because the majority were violent hungry kids, teenyboppers, and serious gamers. Violent themed games (GTASA) and the DVD player were the selling point for PS2.

Traditional 3rd party games WON'T work for Wii because the majority are casuals yearning for that simple fun, along with the minority serious gamers and sheep. The Wii mote is the prime selling point for the Wii and Nintendo.

With motion sensing violence games in Wii will be more stronger than traditional controls of PS2.  

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though this is awesome, you need to get your "bigs of gaming" right. those are 3 of the 4. myomoto needs to be there.