The BIG exclusive non kinect needed 2012 360 list!

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Actually Kinect games are more core than most pad games

Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Haunt, Witcher 2, Steel Batallion are all core games

loosingENDS

yep they are core... Medioc(o)re :P

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

but that makes no sense, Kinect exclusives are still core exlusives and there is a huge number of them coming

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So, MS is definatly woking on the new Fable, Halo, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon and Ryse with Crytek, etc etc etc which use Kinect and not on a new system obviously

The choice in exclusives is actually bigger than any year so far on 360 and all its biggest games besides Gears get a sequel in 2012

Also has more new IPs than ever, MS is definatly focusing on core xboc 360 games right now, more than ever

loosingENDS

Kinect titles are not core titles, core titles do not use kinect.

Core gamers means people that do not own Kinect, thats is the industry definition.

Actually Kinect games are more core than most pad games

Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Haunt, Witcher 2, Steel Batallion are all core games

Fable on rails is a core game? perhaps for you but not for most gamers. How can they all be core games if they require Kinect?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Sounds like they took the crappy Kinect minigame implementation for that Harry Potter game and stretched it into a retail release. :/

I don't know why it's even being brought up in this thread since this is a thread about non-Kinect-required games.

TheGuardian03

You know Saolin/Ablefa3, he cannot make a post without including fable, I am as baffled as you as to why the ban hammer hasn't struck yet, I can only conclude the mods are perfomring some kind of social experiment :)

honestly i dont agree with bans.. unless a person offends deeply someone or a group of people (ie racism, sexual orentation, religion etc etc) I would close an eye on all comments related to gaming...

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Kinect titles are not core titles, core titles do not use kinect.

Core gamers means people that do not own Kinect, thats is the industry definition.

tenaka2

Actually Kinect games are more core than most pad games

Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Haunt, Witcher 2, Steel Batallion are all core games

Fable on rails is a core game? perhaps for you but not for most gamers. How can they all be core games if they require Kinect?

Fable JOurney is not on rails and is a RPG game, so 100% core game

yep they are core... Medioc(o)re :P

Malta_1980

MEDIOCoRE ... LOL ... that should stick as a term for Kinect "CORE" games ...

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

honestly i dont agree with bans.. unless a person offends deeply someone or a group of people (ie racism, sexual orentation, religion etc etc) I would close an eye on all comments related to gaming...

TheGuardian03

I know.. i just posted my personal opinion on bans... without some posters SW would be less fun, so I'd rather have them not getting banned :)

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

yep they are core... Medioc(o)re :P

KiZZo1

MEDIOCoRE ... LOL ... that should stick as a term for Kinect "CORE" games ...

dont think Kinect fans would like that ;)

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Actually Kinect games are more core than most pad games

Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Haunt, Witcher 2, Steel Batallion are all core games

loosingENDS

Fable on rails is a core game? perhaps for you but not for most gamers. How can they all be core games if they require Kinect?

Fable JOurney is not on rails and is a RPG game, so 100% core game

But it is on rails the vids from e3 prove it, unless the vids from e3 were somehow faked?

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Fable on rails is a core game? perhaps for you but not for most gamers. How can they all be core games if they require Kinect?

tenaka2

Fable JOurney is not on rails and is a RPG game, so 100% core game

But it is on rails the vids from e3 prove it, unless the vids from e3 were somehow faked?

You have not seen the videos obviously, otherwise you would know there are sections that you play normally on foot and the developer has said is not on rails and a RPG

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Fable JOurney is not on rails and is a RPG game, so 100% core game

loosingENDS

But it is on rails the vids from e3 prove it, unless the vids from e3 were somehow faked?

You have not seen the videos obviously, otherwise you would know there are sections that you play normally on foot and the developer has said is not on rails and a RPG

THe vids show a horse and cart simulation part and then an FPS on rails bit, there is nothing else, unless you have a like to a vid?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Fable JOurney is not on rails and is a RPG game, so 100% core game

loosingENDS

But it is on rails the vids from e3 prove it, unless the vids from e3 were somehow faked?

You have not seen the videos obviously, otherwise you would know there are sections that you play normally on foot and the developer has said is not on rails and a RPG

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

But it is on rails the vids from e3 prove it, unless the vids from e3 were somehow faked?

tenaka2

You have not seen the videos obviously, otherwise you would know there are sections that you play normally on foot and the developer has said is not on rails and a RPG

THe vids show a horse and cart simulation part and then an FPS on rails bit, there is nothing else, unless you have a like to a vid?

Casting spells is now a FPS ?Skyrim is a shooter ?

Also the game is not on rails, this was just the demo for the show

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] Bandodgers so we can't change the rules, he'll coma back though.

TheGuardian03

I know.. i just posted my personal opinion on bans... without some posters SW would be less fun, so I'd rather have them not getting banned :)

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Right now it doesnt look like there will be much choice in terms of exclusives (non Kinect), which means MS might be focusing more on its next console...

I still believe their next console will be announced at E3 2012..

loosingENDS

but that makes no sense, Kinect exclusives are still core exlusives and there is a huge number of them coming

.

So, MS is definatly woking on the new Fable, Halo, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon and Ryse with Crytek, etc etc etc which use Kinect and not on a new system obviously

The choice in exclusives is actually bigger than any year so far on 360 and all its biggest games besides Gears get a sequel in 2012

Also has more new IPs than ever, MS is definatly focusing on core xbox 360 games right now, more than ever

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

You have not seen the videos obviously, otherwise you would know there are sections that you play normally on foot and the developer has said is not on rails and a RPG

loosingENDS

THe vids show a horse and cart simulation part and then an FPS on rails bit, there is nothing else, unless you have a like to a vid?

Casting spells is now a FPS ?Skyrim is a shooter ?

Also the game is not on rails, this was just the demo for the show

Its an fps on rails, or at least thats how it was described by the press and fable fans, unless you have a vid that shows otherwise?

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Right now it doesnt look like there will be much choice in terms of exclusives (non Kinect), which means MS might be focusing more on its next console...

I still believe their next console will be announced at E3 2012..

ianuilliam

but that makes no sense, Kinect exclusives are still core exlusives and there is a huge number of them coming

.

So, MS is definatly woking on the new Fable, Halo, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon and Ryse with Crytek, etc etc etc which use Kinect and not on a new system obviously

The choice in exclusives is actually bigger than any year so far on 360 and all its biggest games besides Gears get a sequel in 2012

Also has more new IPs than ever, MS is definatly focusing on core xbox 360 games right now, more than ever

That still does not make these core Kinect games any less amazing and appealing to me though, i agree they cut off some core gamers, but core gaming on 360 is about immersion and interaction now and i could not agree more, even if it means i had to buy the 150$ Kinect

Kinect enchances core gaming imo, so i definatly want to see it in all new core games

That still does not make these core Kinect games any less amazing and appealing to me though, i agree they cut off some core gamers, but core gaming on 360 is about immersion and interaction now and i could not agree more, even if it means i had to buy the 150$ Kinect

Kinect enchances core gaming imo, so i definatly want to see it in all new core games

loosingENDS

Cut off some gamers? 80% is not some, its the vast majority.

Besides which this thread is aimed at the remaining 80% of non kinect gamers and the exclusive games coming for them, obviously for you kinect is brill but for your fellow 80% of xbox gamers this would not seem to be the case.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

but that makes no sense, Kinect exclusives are still core exlusives and there is a huge number of them coming

.

So, MS is definatly woking on the new Fable, Halo, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon and Ryse with Crytek, etc etc etc which use Kinect and not on a new system obviously

The choice in exclusives is actually bigger than any year so far on 360 and all its biggest games besides Gears get a sequel in 2012

Also has more new IPs than ever, MS is definatly focusing on core xbox 360 games right now, more than ever

loosingENDS

That still does not make these core Kinect games any less amazing and appealing to me though, i agree they cut off some core gamers, but core gaming on 360 is about immersion and interaction now and i could not agree more, even if it means i had to buy the 150$ Kinect

Kinect enchances core gaming imo, so i definatly want to see it in all new core games

Kinect enhances what????

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

but that makes no sense, Kinect exclusives are still core exlusives and there is a huge number of them coming

.

So, MS is definatly woking on the new Fable, Halo, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon and Ryse with Crytek, etc etc etc which use Kinect and not on a new system obviously

The choice in exclusives is actually bigger than any year so far on 360 and all its biggest games besides Gears get a sequel in 2012

Also has more new IPs than ever, MS is definatly focusing on core xbox 360 games right now, more than ever

loosingENDS

Kinect enchances core gaming imo, so i definatly want to see it in all new core games

Au contraire,kinect and core gaming are incompatible.

Games like The Witcher 2,Dark Souls,Skyrim,Uncharted,Gears of war,GTA etc cannot work without a controller.You cannot do complex stuff with the kinect.

And before you start comparing it to wii,let me remind you that the wiimote has buttons,which are used for walking,interacting,jumping etc.How will you walk around using kinect in the games I mentioned above?How will you explore the area in an RPG?How will you aim quickly or switch weapons in FPS games?

You cannot play Batman AC or assassins creed with kinect.Do you want to replace all these great games with mediocre trash like gunstringer?(The 8.5 rating it got means nothing as kinect has lower standards,btw )

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

but that makes no sense, Kinect exclusives are still core exlusives and there is a huge number of them coming

.

So, MS is definatly woking on the new Fable, Halo, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon and Ryse with Crytek, etc etc etc which use Kinect and not on a new system obviously

The choice in exclusives is actually bigger than any year so far on 360 and all its biggest games besides Gears get a sequel in 2012

Also has more new IPs than ever, MS is definatly focusing on core xbox 360 games right now, more than ever

loosingENDS

That still does not make these core Kinect games any less amazing and appealing to me though, i agree they cut off some core gamers, but core gaming on 360 is about immersion and interaction now and i could not agree more, even if it means i had to buy the 150$ Kinect

Kinect enchances core gaming imo, so i definatly want to see it in all new core games

I bought Move (which really wasn't anything more than a $50 alternate controller for someone like me that already had a PSEye camera). Since Move came out, something like 13 of 25 or so, over half, of PS3 exclusives have had Move support, for people like me that bought it. But only about 8 of 25, only a quarter or so, have REQUIRED it, so people who didn't buy it, and prefer traditional controls still have plenty of exclusives. Since Kinect came out, something like 18 of 20 360 exclusives released have REQUIRED Kinect (a $150 motion control camera). Great, for those that adopted (well, except so far, it's been all casual or kids games, versus about half of Move-supported games are "core" games, with Move as an alternate control), but that means, for those who DIDN'T (which, again, is like 80% of the 360 install base) it means there have been basically only 2 exclusive games released for the 360 in the past year (only 4 "high quality exclusives" in the past 24 months for 360 owners who didn't purchase Kinect, versus like 14 on PS3, for owners who didn't buy Move).

If you think Kinect "enhances" core gaming, that's fine. But the only "core" exclusive that has Kinect integration that you could have based this on by actually trying it out so far is Forza. It also does it in a way that doesn't prevent non-kinect owners from being able to buy and enjoy the game, much the same as Move-supported core games on PS3.

Get on with times people:

Au contraire,kinect and core gaming are incompatible.

call_of_duty_10

Zelda SS uses motion controls and is a 10/10 core game

So, they are not incompatible at all, Kinect can enchance core gaming by miles

Get on with times people:KiZZo1

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Au contraire,kinect and core gaming are incompatible.

loosingENDS

Zelda SS uses motion controls and is a 10/10 core game

So, they are not incompatible at all, Kinect can enchance core gaming by miles

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Au contraire,kinect and core gaming are incompatible.

ianuilliam

Zelda SS uses motion controls and is a 10/10 core game

So, they are not incompatible at all, Kinect can enchance core gaming by miles

Kinect can have buttons too with a pad, also buttons can be replaced with Kinect since it is not just a 3D pointer

Kinect enhances what????

Malta_1980

Social skills?

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Zelda SS uses motion controls and is a 10/10 core game

So, they are not incompatible at all, Kinect can enchance core gaming by miles

loosingENDS

Kinect can have buttons too with a pad, also buttons can be replaced with Kinect since it is not just a 3D pointer

Also, lol at "buttons can be replaced with Kinect since it is not just a 3D pointer." How's that gonna work? Replace a button with opening and closing your hand, like in that one video from last E3? Replace analog sticks for movement/camera control with running in place and holding an arm out to one side or the other to turn the camera? Replace simple "one-click" actions, like hot-swapping weapons, throwing grenades, etc., with voice-recognition phrases that take longer, and may or may not work well (say if things get intense, and you try to say it too fast... I'm sure we;ve all worked with voice recognition software enough to have heard "I'm sorry. I didn't quite get that. Did you say blah blah blah?"). What happens when the character has several different, but similar moves. Let's say you have a context sensitive jump button, that also does evasive rolls if you are blocking and moving in a direction. How do you replace that with motion? Jump in place to jump, but if you are holding both hands in front of your face, and running in place, and hop, while leaning in a direction? There's just no way buttons can be replaced in a core game by Kinect , without completely simplifying the game, limiting the possible actions, and/or putting the game on rails. I'll blieve it when I see it.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]Get on with times people:Heil68

No problem.

but I haven't seen any of these Kinect-required core games that use controllers and kinect for the ultimate experience yet....

ianuilliam

2012 is full of them. new Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 3 etc will all use Kinect and are all core games

The thing is that good games take time to make, they cant be made over night the day Kinect hit the market

The best Kinect titles will come 1.5-3 years after Kinect release of course

In any case there already are 8.5/10 games for Kinect like Gunstringer, even though rushed

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

but I haven't seen any of these Kinect-required core games that use controllers and kinect for the ultimate experience yet....

loosingENDS

2012 is full of them. new Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 3 etc will all use Kinect and are all core games

The thing is that good games take time to make, they cant be made over night the day Kinect hit the market

The best Kinect titles will come 1.5-3 years after Kinect release of course

In any case there already are 8.5/10 games for Kinect like Gunstringer, even though rushed

The new fable is an FPS on rails, havn't you seen the videos.

Core gamers don't have kinect, that is the definition of a core gamer, they only have the core system... the core xbox does not come with kinect.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

but I haven't seen any of these Kinect-required core games that use controllers and kinect for the ultimate experience yet....

tenaka2

2012 is full of them. new Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 3 etc will all use Kinect and are all core games

The thing is that good games take time to make, they cant be made over night the day Kinect hit the market

The best Kinect titles will come 1.5-3 years after Kinect release of course

In any case there already are 8.5/10 games for Kinect like Gunstringer, even though rushed

The new fable is an FPS on rails, havn't you seen the videos.

Core gamers don't have kinect, that is the definition of a core gamer, they only have the core system... the core xbox does not come with kinect.

The new Fable is a RPG and not on rails at all, as developers confirm

Kinect and motion controls is what core gaming is about now, check Zelda SS 10/10 scores for reference and the 8.5/10 Gunstringer

The new Fable is a RPG and not on rails at all, as developers confirm

Kinect and motion controls is what core gaming is about now, check Zelda SS 10/10 scores for reference and the 8.5/10 Gunstringer

loosingENDS

You are changing the term 'Core'...

Does the core xbox system come with Kinect? No, then how can Kinect games be core?

The vids for Fable Journey show an fps on rails.

The new Fable is a RPG and not on rails at all, as developers confirm

Kinect and motion controls is what core gaming is about now, check Zelda SS 10/10 scores for reference and the 8.5/10 Gunstringer

loosingENDS

It's on rails. Molyneux has confirmed.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

but I haven't seen any of these Kinect-required core games that use controllers and kinect for the ultimate experience yet....

loosingENDS

2012 is full of them. new Fable, Alan Wake, Ryse, Draco, Steel Batallion, Mass Effect 3 etc will all use Kinect and are all core games

The thing is that good games take time to make, they cant be made over night the day Kinect hit the market

The best Kinect titles will come 1.5-3 years after Kinect release of course

In any case there already are 8.5/10 games for Kinect like Gunstringer, even though rushed

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The new Fable is a RPG and not on rails at all, as developers confirm

Kinect and motion controls is what core gaming is about now, check Zelda SS 10/10 scores for reference and the 8.5/10 Gunstringer

tenaka2

You are changing the term 'Core'...

Does the core xbox system come with Kinect? No, then how can Kinect games be core?

The vids for Fable Journey show an fps on rails.

Core xbox does actually come with Kinect, 299$ bunlde

Fable video was for demo and of course does not show the whole game or the final version of it

Get on with times people:

KiZZo1

thats funny but i noticed something when i look at that pic. theres no Dance Central or Gunstringer in there. now the only reason i bring it up is because didnt those games outscore pretty much every ps3 exclusive this year on GS? thats interesting. but knowing you cows, you will just run to metacritic and claim otherwise. i dont even like kinect and could care less about it, but it must suck knowing these games are outscoring most ps3 exclusives.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The new Fable is a RPG and not on rails at all, as developers confirm

Kinect and motion controls is what core gaming is about now, check Zelda SS 10/10 scores for reference and the 8.5/10 Gunstringer

loosingENDS

You are changing the term 'Core'...

Does the core xbox system come with Kinect? No, then how can Kinect games be core?

The vids for Fable Journey show an fps on rails.

Core xbox does actually come with Kinect, 299$ bunlde

Fable video was for demo and of course does not show the whole game or the final version of it

The core xbox does not come with Kinect.

THe video shows what the games is going to be.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Get on with times people:

todd2r

thats funny but i noticed something when i look at that pic. theres no Dance Central or Gunstringer in there. now the only reason i bring it up is because didnt those games outscore pretty much every ps3 exclusive this year on GS? thats interesting. but knowing you cows, you will just run to metacritic and claim otherwise. i dont even like kinect and could care less about it, but it must suck knowing these games are outscoring most ps3 exclusives.

Indeed, if Kinect games are so bad, how come they are more fun and better scoring than all PS3 exclusives in 2011 besides Uncharted 3

And the 8.5/10 Gunstringer is only 0.5/10 lower than Uncharted 3 too, so they are about as good games

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Get on with times people:

todd2r

thats funny but i noticed something when i look at that pic. theres no Dance Central or Gunstringer in there. now the only reason i bring it up is because didnt those games outscore pretty much every ps3 exclusive this year on GS? thats interesting. but knowing you cows, you will just run to metacritic and claim otherwise. i dont even like kinect and could care less about it, but it must suck knowing these games are outscoring most ps3 exclusives.

Why do you say they outscore (or tie) PS3 exclusives? They do that with games on all platforms. Let's see:

Dance Central 2 = Gunstringer = Deus EX:HR = Resistance 3 = Crysis 2 = MW3 = Forza 4 = Killzone 3 = Assassin's Creed:Brotherhood = Battlefield 3 = Dead Space 2 (and many, many more) ...

If you endorse those scores and think they are rated on the same scale, then power to you ...

i dont even like kinect and could care less about it, but it must suck knowing these games are outscoring most ps3 exclusives.todd2r

Already? Let 2011 end first.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="todd2r"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Get on with times people:

loosingENDS

thats funny but i noticed something when i look at that pic. theres no Dance Central or Gunstringer in there. now the only reason i bring it up is because didnt those games outscore pretty much every ps3 exclusive this year on GS? thats interesting. but knowing you cows, you will just run to metacritic and claim otherwise. i dont even like kinect and could care less about it, but it must suck knowing these games are outscoring most ps3 exclusives.

Indeed, if Kinect games are so bad, how come they are more fun and better scoring than all PS3 exclusives in 2011 besides Uncharted 3

And the 8.5/10 Gunstringer is only 0.5/10 lower than Uncharted 3 too, so they are about as good games

As for better scoring... todd2r: "didnt those games outscore pretty much every ps3 exclusive this year on GS?" loosingENDS: "how come they are more fun and better scoring than all PS3 exclusives in 2011 besides Uncharted 3"

Uncharted3 and LBP2 both outscored every Kinect game (and every 360 exclusive save Gears3 on GS, and both outscored every 360 exclusive on MC since... I dunno, Gears 2? Forza 3?), and R3, KZ3, and MS:A all got 8.5 as well... So how did DC2 and Gunstringer "outscore pretty much every PS3 exclusive this year," or are "better scoring than all PS3 exclusives in 2011 besides Uncharted 3," when there are 5 2011 PS3 exclusives that scored the same or better?

[QUOTE="todd2r"]i dont even like kinect and could care less about it, but it must suck knowing these games are outscoring most ps3 exclusives.Heil68

lol Halo.

Up until the end of this year though, the 360 will have had one hell of a run.