The Biggest gimmick.

Is it Motion Controllers or 3D gaming? I am going to say 3D right now because motion controllers can be used without having to buy all new expensive equipment. I think at E3 you see a lot of motion games but only a few 3D games.

how is moving forward in gaming a "gimmick"? CraiGdOwns

People have called motion controllers a gimmick. I don't think they are but some say they are. I think 3D gaming is though right now.

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

br0kenrabbit

We have a winner.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

LegatoSkyheart

We have a winner.

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

Mario1331

We have a winner.

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

Mario1331

I don't see much of a difference between achievements and finding the hidden stars in Mario64.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

Mario1331

We have a winner.

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

MW2 achievements only involves playing through SP and co-op on veteran. Quite short if you have functioning opposable thumbs (and your partner).

How is #D gaming a gimmick? There are barely any games that even support it.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

We have a winner.

forza420

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

for example im still playing MW2 till this day to get that spinning skull head emblem dont know why im doing it but i think i get an achievement if i do.

its just little things to do to give a game longer replay value thats all i really meant by it

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

br0kenrabbit

True, but they are still very fun.

Stories in games are a huge gimmick. When it comes to actual gameplay, the most fun games were made in the 80's in 90's. Since the video game industry was unable to top itself in gameplay they found ways to keep people interested by putting stories into games. I guess they figured that way the gaming industry can survive as long as the movie industry has. Millions of movies have been made. They all involve the same activity, sitting in a chair staring at a screen. So the video game industry is like hey, people like doing the same activity over and over while a story unfolds in front of their eyeballs. So we can get away with creating the same game over and over with a different story each time and people will keep forking over the cash!

[QUOTE="forza420"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

Mario1331

for example im still playing MW2 till this day to get that spinning skull head emblem dont know why im doing it but i think i get an achievement if i do.

its just little things to do to give a game longer replay value thats all i really meant by it

Yeah, Achievements. Especially when the game hands them out for stuff you had to do anyway.

Achievement Unlocked: Level 1 complete. (Nah, really?)

Yeah, achievements definitely...

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

br0kenrabbit

Thank God. Achievements really are the most pointless gimmick yet.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give awaythe razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

goblaa

Thank God. Achievements really are the most pointless gimmick yet.

I think they add to the game rather than take anything away. I play a game for fun not anything to Achieve from it so I dont' care about them but if someone else does good for them. I guess you can call it a gimmick but it doesn't cost anything to play on Steam to get Achievements.

How is #D gaming a gimmick? There are barely any games that even support it.

ColdP1zza

Right now there aren't but next year Sony is going to push it really hard to sell their 3D tv sets.

3D. Maybe it is the future of home entertainment, but that future sure as hell doesn't involve buying pairs of $100+ glasses on top of a $2000+ 1080p TV.

3D. Maybe it is the future of home entertainment, but that future sure as hell doesn't involve buying pairs of $100+ glasses on top of a $2000+ 1080p TV.

PBSnipes

Yeah it's going to cost a lot. If there are any four player 3D games that is going to be very expensive.

I think it will be 3d

Stories in games are a huge gimmick. When it comes to actual gameplay, the most fun games were made in the 80's in 90's. Since the video game industry was unable to top itself in gameplay they found ways to keep people interested by putting stories into games. I guess they figured that way the gaming industry can survive as long as the movie industry has. Millions of movies have been made. They all involve the same activity, sitting in a chair staring at a screen. So the video game industry is like hey, people like doing the same activity over and over while a story unfolds in front of their eyeballs. So we can get away with creating the same game over and over with a different story each time and people will keep forking over the cash!

Tauu

a lot of the time this is true but i can honestly say some of the best fun times ive had playing games have been recent games with good co op experiences and next to no story; castle crashers and the deniable ops stuff in sc:c.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

LegatoSkyheart

We have a winner.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

Mario1331

We have a winner.

to be fair achievements can make a short game very lengthy*looks at MW2*

I think you just proved his point.

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

PandaBear86

I didn't say you can't have fun with them, but they are a marketing gimmick.

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Achievements. Really, it's just marketing. You just think they're for fun.

They want you to get 'attached' to your account by having all these achievements you 'earned' and don't want to lose. Thus, you keep coming back to the system, buying more games, because you're 'invested' in your account.

It's along the same lines as 'Give away the razor, charge out the ass for the blades'.

br0kenrabbit

I didn't say you can't have fun with them, but they are a marketing gimmick.

Its only a gimmick if its used like a gimmick so be optimistic and think that 3D and motion control will be used well and its more likely to encourage developers to try and use it properly

everyone used to tell me computers and the internet were gimmicks. look who has egg on there face now!!!!

This...

....no doubt about it.

In gaming.. hmm, probably 3D I guess.

everyone used to tell me computers and the internet were gimmicks. look who has egg on there face now!!!!

dog_dirt

3D gaming is a huge gimmick because 3D movies are a huge gimmick. Its pointless and its stupid 110million

At the beginning of this generation: motion controls. Now: 3D.

This...

....no doubt about it.

SecretPolice

what? it doesn't poop, doesn't need feeding, is well trained (it stays exactly where i tell it), i can pet it all i want... it's the best pet i've ever had.

as for gimmick in it's current form 3d, but it will not be a gimmick in the future when glasses-less tv's release.

how is moving forward in gaming a "gimmick"? CraiGdOwns

It's not moving forward. It's been attempted before and failed. I think 3D gaming is worst than motion controls and hope it fails again.

achievements.... they would mean alot more if they were actually hard to get, but most of them are simple and some you get for doing the very basics of a game....

imo, achievements should be something you get for completing difficult or long term objectives (seriously, and seriously 2.0 from gears comes to mind)

[QUOTE="CraiGdOwns"]how is moving forward in gaming a "gimmick"? rp108

It's not moving forward. It's been attempted before and failed. I think 3D gaming is worst than motion controls and hope it fails again.

yeah, that was a long time ago... technology has advanced by leaps and bounds since then

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[QUOTE="CraiGdOwns"]how is moving forward in gaming a "gimmick"? ogvampire

It's not moving forward. It's been attempted before and failed. I think 3D gaming is worst than motion controls and hope it fails again.

yeah, that was a long time ago... technology has advanced by leaps and bounds since then

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="rp108"]

It's not moving forward. It's been attempted before and failed. I think 3D gaming is worst than motion controls and hope it fails again.

110million

yeah, that was a long time ago... technology has advanced by leaps and bounds since then

same idea, but the technology has changed... shutter glasses or stereoscopic display instead of blue/red glasses

3d as a technology really didnt get any attention or real improvement for a long time, they are barely starting to concentrate on it again... i think the tech will improve quickly now

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

yeah, that was a long time ago... technology has advanced by leaps and bounds since then

ogvampire

same idea, but the technology has changed... shutter glasses or stereoscopic display instead of blue/red glasses

3d as a technology really didnt get any attention or real improvement for a long time, they are barely starting to concentrate on it again... i think the tech will improve quickly now

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Its ultimately using the exact same idea, 2 copies of the image, etc etc. Think about it, the only thing that makes 3D better now is that CGI has gone so far, so things in 3D and CGI look fine, but 3D itself is still a gimmick. 110million

same idea, but the technology has changed... shutter glasses or stereoscopic display instead of blue/red glasses

3d as a technology really didnt get any attention or real improvement for a long time, they are barely starting to concentrate on it again... i think the tech will improve quickly now

just off the top of my head: how about viewing 3d without using glasses?

i play nearly all my games in 3d and i can say its not gimmicky it works and its great, most people never tried it out.

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

same idea, but the technology has changed... shutter glasses or stereoscopic display instead of blue/red glasses

3d as a technology really didnt get any attention or real improvement for a long time, they are barely starting to concentrate on it again... i think the tech will improve quickly now

ogvampire

just off the top of my head: how about viewing 3d without using glasses?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="110million"] I don't see what they can do in terms of improvements, but no one can really know whats going to happen in the future. I can argue more about it when 3D fails a few years from now. :o sam_nintendo

just off the top of my head: how about viewing 3d without using glasses?

yeah, there are alot of things to improve upon in terms of 3d tech.... hologram tech is what i envision for the future... just like the TV the Jetsons had :P

[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

just off the top of my head: how about viewing 3d without using glasses?

ogvampire

yeah, there are alot of things to improve upon in terms of 3d tech.... hologram tech is what i envision for the future... just like the TV the Jetsons had :P

[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

How is #D gaming a gimmick? There are barely any games that even support it.

xhawk27

Right now there aren't but next year Sony is going to push it really hard to sell their 3D tv sets.

lol he tried to make a capitol 3