The BLACK ANGEL of DOOM is coming for Sony in Japan... and it looks like...

I would buy one of those

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

hakanakumono

While I disagree with the logic of this thread, what exactly do 3 FF games prove? That sony isn't doomed? If so than sure but you didn't need to post those games to prove that lol.

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="screechmario"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

finalfantasy94

Proboly right,but doesint mean FF13 alone wont sell millions. Doubting FF in the japan market is like doubting Halo in the american market.

He's crazy if he thinks that that will happen. That is just ridiculous in my opinion.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="screechmario"]Wii Sports Resort alone will move more consoles and sell more copies than all of those games combined,

ActicEdge

Proboly right,but doesint mean FF13 alone wont sell millions. Doubting FF in the japan market is like doubting Halo in the american market.

He's crazy if he thinks that that will happen. That is just ridiculous in my opinion.

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

hakanakumono

Wont save Sony though, but I cant wait for them.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

aaronmullan

PSP FF game.

I'm pretty sure all Sony would need to do to counter that dread Black Angel of Doom is make a FFXIII PS3 bundle or a FFXIV bundle. :|

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

finalfantasy94

PSP FF game.

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

finalfantasy94

PSP FF game.

lmao Sony is finished

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

screechmario

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Final Fantasy XIII.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

Final Fantasy Agito XIII.

/Thread.

screechmario

Sadly this is quite likely to be true.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="screechmario"]It'll come sooner or later like the different GC colors... only the Wii is much sexier.

screechmario

Uh... The Wii was always crushing the PS3 in Japan... On another note I can't wait to get Monster Hunter 3 here in the states though it probably won't come until mid 2010. Shame we most likely won't get Monster Hunter G to fill the gap.Flamestos

That bundle looks sweet :D

Is the black Wii Japan only?

Knowing Ninty's indifference towards Europe I doubt we'll be seeing it here anytime soon.

Sony cant stop Nintendo first attack ( MH3 + its bundle ) we can say this is Nintendo pay back for Sony after Sony first 2 attacks in 2009 ( Ryu ga gotoku 3 and FFVII AC ) but they can stop the 2nd attack ( DQX ) with FF13 and probably we wont see DQX till 2010 cuz DQIX still not released on DS yet.

Lol I thought The Black Angel of Doom was another PS3 exclusive but I guess you were just using metaphors.

I think I'm going to have to pull up all of the media create sales for this year to put Sheep in their place.

I think I'm going to have to pull up all of the media create sales for this year to put Sheep in their place.

hakanakumono

Rofl, looks like someone struck a nerve.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I think I'm going to have to pull up all of the media create sales for this year to put Sheep in their place.

-Oath

Rofl, looks like someone struck a nerve.

I think I'm going to have to pull up all of the media create sales for this year to put Sheep in their place.

hakanakumono

You mean the ones that will have the wii passing the PS3 year to year next week despite the PS3 blowing its biggest games until the release of FF13? The same ones that have the wii outselling the PS3 again?

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I think I'm going to have to pull up all of the media create sales for this year to put Sheep in their place.

hakanakumono

Rofl, looks like someone struck a nerve.

The wii may have outsold the PS3 for the month of May, but it is not outselling the PS3 by a large margin. The sales as of May 25~31 are both below 20k. The PS3 has outsold the wii spanning from February (and perhaps even January) to April. It's highly doubtful that recent wii sales will have tipped the scales already. The PS3 has definitely outsold the wii for 2009 in Japan. At the same time, yes its very possible for the Wii to outsell the PS3 for 2009 in the end. However, the wii seems to have lost its fad status and it's sales have seriously deflated in Japan. What we're seeing now is true competition between the consoles, so with Final Fantasy XIII looming around the corner there's certainlya chance of PS3 outselling the Wii in Japan for 2009.

At the same time, the PS3 will never take the wii in worldwide sales, or at least not any time soon.

A bigger problem than pride over sales is that Sheep do not effectively hype their library. They simply hype everything, and make long lists of mediocrity littered with quality in order to make it seem like the tables are turning for their system. Now while no one can really say that nintendo isn't making an effort this gen with the announcement of a second mario game and a new metroid, the wii still has a lot of catching up to do and sheep are fooling themselves if they think that the wii's 3rd party lineup is anything to brag about.

The wii may have outsold the PS3 for the month of May, but it is not outselling the PS3 by a large margin. The sales as of May 25~31 are both below 20k. The PS3 has outsold the wii spanning from February (and perhaps even January) to April. It's highly doubtful that recent wii sales will have tipped the scales already. The PS3 has definitely outsold the wii for 2009 in Japan. At the same time, yes its very possible for the Wii to outsell the PS3 for 2009 in the end. However, the wii seems to have lost its fad status and it's sales have seriously deflated in Japan. What we're seeing now is true competition between the consoles, so with Final Fantasy XIII looming around the corner there's certainlya chance of PS3 outselling the Wii in Japan for 2009.

At the same time, the PS3 will never take the wii in worldwide sales, or at least not any time soon.

A bigger problem than pride over sales is that Sheep do not effectively hype their library. They simply hype everything, and make long lists of mediocrity littered with quality in order to make it seem like the tables are turning for their system. Now while no one can really say that nintendo isn't making an effort this gen with the announcement of a second mario game and a new metroid, the wii still has a lot of catching up to do and sheep are fooling themselves if they think that the wii's 3rd party lineup is anything to brag about.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]

lol Sony is finished

screechmario

[QUOTE="screechmario"]

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]

lol Sony is finished

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="Flamestos"]Uh... The Wii was always crushing the PS3 in Japan... On another note I can't wait to get Monster Hunter 3 here in the states though it probably won't come until mid 2010. Shame we most likely won't get Monster Hunter G to fill the gap.Diviniuz

The wii may have outsold the PS3 for the month of May, but it is not outselling the PS3 by a large margin. The sales as of May 25~31 are both below 20k. The PS3 has outsold the wii spanning from February (and perhaps even January) to April. It's highly doubtful that recent wii sales will have tipped the scales already. The PS3 has definitely outsold the wii for 2009 in Japan. At the same time, yes its very possible for the Wii to outsell the PS3 for 2009 in the end. However, the wii seems to have lost its fad status and it's sales have seriously deflated in Japan. What we're seeing now is true competition between the consoles, so with Final Fantasy XIII looming around the corner there's certainlya chance of PS3 outselling the Wii in Japan for 2009.

At the same time, the PS3 will never take the wii in worldwide sales, or at least not any time soon.

A bigger problem than pride over sales is that Sheep do not effectively hype their library. They simply hype everything, and make long lists of mediocrity littered with quality in order to make it seem like the tables are turning for their system. Now while no one can really say that nintendo isn't making an effort this gen with the announcement of a second mario game and a new metroid, the wii still has a lot of catching up to do and sheep are fooling themselves if they think that the wii's 3rd party lineup is anything to brag about.

hakanakumono

You're right. The Wii won't pass the PS3 until next week lol. Such a long wait I know. As for PS3 outselling wii this year :lol: That's not happening and FF 13 isn't gonna do it, that's for sure. The gap will be huge by the time it comes out quite frankly and with Wii Fit plus and New Super Mario Bros Wii, along with games like Crystal Bearers, I don't see it happening lol.

Anyway, I won't even address the second part since we were talking about sales and you changed the subject.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="screechmario"]They already were.... this is just the final nail in the coffin.

desmondsultanas

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The wii may have outsold the PS3 for the month of May, but it is not outselling the PS3 by a large margin. The sales as of May 25~31 are both below 20k. The PS3 has outsold the wii spanning from February (and perhaps even January) to April. It's highly doubtful that recent wii sales will have tipped the scales already. The PS3 has definitely outsold the wii for 2009 in Japan. At the same time, yes its very possible for the Wii to outsell the PS3 for 2009 in the end. However, the wii seems to have lost its fad status and it's sales have seriously deflated in Japan. What we're seeing now is true competition between the consoles, so with Final Fantasy XIII looming around the corner there's certainlya chance of PS3 outselling the Wii in Japan for 2009.

At the same time, the PS3 will never take the wii in worldwide sales, or at least not any time soon.

A bigger problem than pride over sales is that Sheep do not effectively hype their library. They simply hype everything, and make long lists of mediocrity littered with quality in order to make it seem like the tables are turning for their system. Now while no one can really say that nintendo isn't making an effort this gen with the announcement of a second mario game and a new metroid, the wii still has a lot of catching up to do and sheep are fooling themselves if they think that the wii's 3rd party lineup is anything to brag about.

desmondsultanas

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

[QUOTE="Flamestos"]Uh... The Wii was always crushing the PS3 in Japan... On another note I can't wait to get Monster Hunter 3 here in the states though it probably won't come until mid 2010. Shame we most likely won't get Monster Hunter G to fill the gap.Senor_Kami

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The wii may have outsold the PS3 for the month of May, but it is not outselling the PS3 by a large margin. The sales as of May 25~31 are both below 20k. The PS3 has outsold the wii spanning from February (and perhaps even January) to April. It's highly doubtful that recent wii sales will have tipped the scales already. The PS3 has definitely outsold the wii for 2009 in Japan. At the same time, yes its very possible for the Wii to outsell the PS3 for 2009 in the end. However, the wii seems to have lost its fad status and it's sales have seriously deflated in Japan. What we're seeing now is true competition between the consoles, so with Final Fantasy XIII looming around the corner there's certainlya chance of PS3 outselling the Wii in Japan for 2009.

At the same time, the PS3 will never take the wii in worldwide sales, or at least not any time soon.

A bigger problem than pride over sales is that Sheep do not effectively hype their library. They simply hype everything, and make long lists of mediocrity littered with quality in order to make it seem like the tables are turning for their system. Now while no one can really say that nintendo isn't making an effort this gen with the announcement of a second mario game and a new metroid, the wii still has a lot of catching up to do and sheep are fooling themselves if they think that the wii's 3rd party lineup is anything to brag about.

hakanakumono

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The wii may have outsold the PS3 for the month of May, but it is not outselling the PS3 by a large margin. The sales as of May 25~31 are both below 20k. The PS3 has outsold the wii spanning from February (and perhaps even January) to April. It's highly doubtful that recent wii sales will have tipped the scales already. The PS3 has definitely outsold the wii for 2009 in Japan. At the same time, yes its very possible for the Wii to outsell the PS3 for 2009 in the end. However, the wii seems to have lost its fad status and it's sales have seriously deflated in Japan. What we're seeing now is true competition between the consoles, so with Final Fantasy XIII looming around the corner there's certainlya chance of PS3 outselling the Wii in Japan for 2009.

At the same time, the PS3 will never take the wii in worldwide sales, or at least not any time soon.

A bigger problem than pride over sales is that Sheep do not effectively hype their library. They simply hype everything, and make long lists of mediocrity littered with quality in order to make it seem like the tables are turning for their system. Now while no one can really say that nintendo isn't making an effort this gen with the announcement of a second mario game and a new metroid, the wii still has a lot of catching up to do and sheep are fooling themselves if they think that the wii's 3rd party lineup is anything to brag about.

hakanakumono

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

Like I said, next week puts the wii back in the lead, its only gonna get wider until FF13 quite frankly. I doubt FF 13 will make up that big a lead but I've been wrong before. And lol at the thought of SE releasing there 2 biggest franchises in the same quarter. Dragon Quest 10, 2011 believe. As for Japanese developers moving to the wii, eh that's not happening until they can get some damn sales. (maybe put some big games on it once in a while???)

PS3 #2 in Japan Confirmed.

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] PS3 has been outselling the wii in Japan for the most apart (since the end of last year to present)

hakanakumono

You are right. It was about 3 months if I'm correct.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]Dude PS3 is millions behind in Japan and it going to get way worst after Monster Hunter + Black Wii and Wii Sports Resort in June..... way worst. Let it go.

ActicEdge

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

Like I said, next week puts the wii back in the lead, its only gonna get wider until FF13 quite frankly. I doubt FF 13 will make up that big a lead but I've been wrong before. And lol at the thought of SE releasing there 2 biggest franchises in the same quarter. Dragon Quest 10, 2011 believe. As for Japanese developers moving to the wii, eh that's not happening until they can get some damn sales. (maybe put some big games on it once in a while???)

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]Dude PS3 is millions behind in Japan and it going to get way worst after Monster Hunter + Black Wii and Wii Sports Resort in June..... way worst. Let it go.

desmondsultanas

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

Ragnarok1051

Like I said, next week puts the wii back in the lead, its only gonna get wider until FF13 quite frankly. I doubt FF 13 will make up that big a lead but I've been wrong before. And lol at the thought of SE releasing there 2 biggest franchises in the same quarter. Dragon Quest 10, 2011 believe. As for Japanese developers moving to the wii, eh that's not happening until they can get some damn sales. (maybe put some big games on it once in a while???)

So the PS3 and Wii are at about 500k each for the year. Lets say that in theory the wii hits 1 million in sales before FF 13 and the PS3 hits 800k. (I'm being generous, the wii will have a way bigger lead than 200k). Are we too assume that the FF13 is going to push 200k units and the wii will stand still?

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Like I said, next week puts the wii back in the lead, its only gonna get wider until FF13 quite frankly. I doubt FF 13 will make up that big a lead but I've been wrong before. And lol at the thought of SE releasing there 2 biggest franchises in the same quarter. Dragon Quest 10, 2011 believe. As for Japanese developers moving to the wii, eh that's not happening until they can get some damn sales. (maybe put some big games on it once in a while???)

ActicEdge

So the PS3 and Wii are at about 500k each for the year. Lets say that in theory the wii hits 1 million in sales before FF 13 and the PS3 hits 800k. (I'm being generous, the wii will have a way bigger lead than 200k). Are we too assume that the FF13 is going to push 200k units and the wii will stand still?

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

The PS3 isn't going to outsell the wii's total sales in Japan. Yes, it is millions behind. But 2009 still marks a turning point. The Wii hasn't outsold the PS3 for 2009 and if these past months have been any sign, Wii sales are not guaranteed to trump the PS3. Monster Hunter may be a big title in Japan, but Final Fantasy XIII is a much bigger deal. If Dragon Quest X comes out this year, then no, the PS3 stands no chance. But it isn't, is it? PS3 can take 2009 sales for Japan. And even if it does, no it doesn't mark the defeat of the Wii. But it does invalidate the idea that Japanese 3rd party developers are all going to move over to the wii because of sales.

hakanakumono

The difference being it actually got the ocassional good selling third party game in Japan until recently. Dragon Quest Swords, Umbrella chronicles, Knight of Ratatosk, all games from popular franchises sold decentand nintendo always had something to stimulate hardware until recently. The thing didn't sell itself, as crappy and sparse as the games were atleast within that time frame they existed. For the last 6 months, MHG has been the only note worth game. That's just sad.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"] That's not accurate. There was like a 6 week period where the PS3 outsold the Wii. 6 weeks out of almost 6 months is hardly "for the most part."ActicEdge

You are right. It was about 3 months if I'm correct.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Hey if 60,000 bought the PS3 for just a demo, think of how many will buy the actual game.Ragnarok1051

So the PS3 and Wii are at about 500k each for the year. Lets say that in theory the wii hits 1 million in sales before FF 13 and the PS3 hits 800k. (I'm being generous, the wii will have a way bigger lead than 200k). Are we too assume that the FF13 is going to push 200k units and the wii will stand still?

If that's all you meant then yeah, FF 13 is going to be huge and probably the best selling third party game in Japan on a console by a large margin. MH will be second.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"] I'm pretty sure the PS3 outsold the wii for almost 3 months. Or am I confusing it with the PSP? Maybe I'm remembering things wrong.

hakanakumono

You are right. It was about 3 months if I'm correct.