The bottom line is that PS3 is WANTED by SO many people out there, waiting.

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#51 AlumaProDave
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360 is still exclusive, it is limited to the types of poeple that like it. the ps3 and wii or more attractive to the mass. Thats why the wii and ps3 will do better.ff7isnumbaone
Times change they always do. Just look at the Wii compared to the Game Cube.
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#52 christianc75
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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47
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#53 marvelfan
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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

 

It's what im waiting for, iv always wanted a PS3, but right now it's just not worth geting it. As soon as that price drop hit and the main games are outthere is no question that I will be picking up a PS3, and alot of my freinds feel the same way.

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#54 legalize3
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Yes millions are waiting and then there are the people who are buying Wii and 360. Developers aren't going to wait they are going to dev for the system with the most install base. People can wait all they want they are only hurting Sony's chances of winning that much more. Its not like Sony's 1st Party is going to carry the PS3 like Nintendo 1st Party carries Nintendo.Blackbond

oh if thats the case devs should make games on ps2

dont underestimate sony first party titles

Total sales for Sony 1'st and 2'nd party games which broke the 1mill barrier:
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS2&publisher=Sony&sort=Total
65.4mill units sold

almost all these top selling games are in development and we didnt even add new franchises

Total sales for all xBox games managing to break the 1mill barrier:
http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=XB&publisher=Microsoft&sort=Total
65.3mill units sold

Total sales for all Nintendo games managing to break the 1mill barrier:
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=&console=GC&publisher=&sort=Total
75.5mill units sold
54.0mill of these are Nintendo 1'st and 2'nd party titles

the PS2 1'st and 2'nd party titles alone were able to compete with the other consoles last gen in total sales. And we know that Sony has been expanding the games division in the move to PS3 by buying up 2'nd party studios and making contracts with new 2'nd party studios.

And do we compare total sales of PS2 games selling more than 1mill units:
http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS2&publisher=&sort=Total
448.9mill units sold

Then for every ~6.86 PS2 game sold one of them was a Sony 1'st/2'nd party title.

sony could kill the xbox360 with their 1st/2nd party games alone.!.!.!

now lets add some 3rd party triple AAA exclusives

MGS

ZOE

TEKKEN

FF13

 

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#55 Iyethar
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[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.legalize3

I hate to break it to you, but those millions aren't waiting for the PS3. The people who really want the console badly have purchased it, and those that didn't aren't waiting - they're buying the Wii.

ya people who played most of the time mature games on the ps2 will now decide to play cooking mammas

those gamecube fans are buying it like crazy

What on earth gives you the idea that people played "mature" games on the PS2 most of the time?  The majority of its titles are rated "E" for everybody.

The sales numbers for GameCube prove that the Wii's demand must include far more people than just GameCube fans.

People aren't waiting for PS3.  They're buying the Wii instead. 

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#56 DXGreat1_HGL
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  Oh, I see the 3 in TC's avatar is Sony's position in the marketplace. It'll stay there....
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#57 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.Iyethar

I hate to break it to you, but those millions aren't waiting for the PS3. The people who really want the console badly have purchased it, and those that didn't aren't waiting - they're buying the Wii.

ya people who played most of the time mature games on the ps2 will now decide to play cooking mammas

those gamecube fans are buying it like crazy

What on earth gives you the idea that people played "mature" games on the PS2 most of the time? The majority of its titles are rated "E" for everybody.

The sales numbers for GameCube prove that the Wii's demand must include far more people than just GameCube fans.

People aren't waiting for PS3. They're buying the Wii instead.

the majority are E doesnt mean those are sold to the majority 

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#58 Hewkii
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the majority are E doesnt mean those are sold to the majority 

legalize3
doesn't mean they aren't.
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#59 toxicmog
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360 is expensive.

PS3 is TOO expenisve.

In the UK most PS3 bundles cost from £480 uo to £560 which is a stupid ammount.

My 360 with games came to £400 on launch day.  And i thought that was expsnive. 

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#60 Nike_Air
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Yes millions are waiting and then there are the people who are buying Wii and 360. Developers aren't going to wait they are going to dev for the system with the most install base. People can wait all they want they are only hurting Sony's chances of winning that much more. Its not like Sony's 1st Party is going to carry the PS3 like Nintendo 1st Party carries Nintendo.Blackbond
Huge myth. Of course Sony can carry the ps3 much like Nintedo carried the gamecube.

 

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#61 Equinox9
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[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.christianc75

And then the 360 will drop it's price further and people will be in the same position wondering if the PS3 is still worth it.

Well that's how adults will think kids who demand MGS I suppose will still want the PStriple. 

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#62 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Yes millions are waiting and then there are the people who are buying Wii and 360. Developers aren't going to wait they are going to dev for the system with the most install base. People can wait all they want they are only hurting Sony's chances of winning that much more. Its not like Sony's 1st Party is going to carry the PS3 like Nintendo 1st Party carries Nintendo.Nike_Air

Huge myth. Of course Sony can carry the ps3 much like Nintedo carried the gamecube.

 

Yeah, but Nintendo suprisingly made profit w/ the GC, and the PS3.... not so much
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#63 bindip
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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

lol fanboy statment right there...........no links or even logic to back up what he said.

 

Trust me. It will not happen. Because know one can tell what will happen next and on current sales the ps3 is going no where fast.

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#64 darkmanure
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Theres tons of people waiting for it to drop by 100 and waiting for MGS4, FF13, LBP, KZ2. Saying it won't sell due to those game are ignorant as haters in here hating on a system for the dumbest reasons.
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#65 KodiakGTS
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if you look at gaming consoles in the past, they have been around the same price as current consoles. people its called INFLATION. you guys need to go back to school and learn how money becomes worth less and less over the years. right now, if im right 1 dollar is worth either a cent or 9/10 of a cent. something like that. this is why prices for everthing is getting higher. cricketer23

You're kidding right...the average inflation since the beginning of the 90s has been like 3% a year.  So assuming maximum inflation, that is 18% inflation from the release of the PS2 to the release of PS3.  That means the PS2 cost about $354 US when it was released in terms of 2006 Dollars. Thats a far cry from $500 or $600.

As to the thread topic.  IMO you greatly overestimate the mass market appeal of the PS3. 

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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="jim1029"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="NYCgamer47"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.Shadow_op

Need i say more :P

Good things are worth waiting for.

Which is why people are still lining up for Wii's.

:lol:

You just completely owned him with 9 words. :lol:

its 10 you need school

Grammer FTL

Spelling FTL 

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#67 Iyethar
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the majority are E doesnt mean those are sold to the majority

legalize3

Yeah, actually it does.  If M rated games made up the majority of game purchases, the majority of game releases would then be targeted for an M rating so as to maximize profit.  The reality is that E rated games make up the majority of game purchases and that the majority of game releases are targeted for an E rating so as to maximize profit. 

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#68 marklarmer
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Whys everyone talking about this magical price drop? what happens if the 360 drops it price first?
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INTERNET ASSPLOSION
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#70 bullfrogj3
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I've been hearing the "just wait" argument for almost three years now.

The first time was, "wait until the PS3 comes out, it's gonna pwn the 360 with it's amazing graphix, awsome power, and exclusive AAA titles! Killzone 2 FTW!".

Then it was, "wait until Motorstorm, it's going to pwn the 360 with it's amazing graphix and awsome power! Killzone 2 FTW!" 

Then, "AAA games are coming, just you wait. The Wii is a fad and the PS3 will pwn it with Folding@Home!! FFXIII FTW!!"

Now, "Teh price drop! PS3 will pwn ALL with a price drop, just you WAIT"......

The PS3's biggest competition is the PS2 and the Wii. Not the 360.  

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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

Dude, do you never stop? Remember you last thread about revenue? Remember how that ended? People aren't accepting the PS3, deal with it 

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#72 lawlessx
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wow nyc..how many more pro sony/ anti microsoft threads are you going to make?
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#73 joshpetty
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I still think potential ps3 owners are waiting for that big game to come out that will force them to buy a ps3. Personally although i could afford a ps3 im waiting until it has the games worthy of the £400 price tag, as tempted as i am to buy one im patience enough to wait for now. People would be lapping them up if it was'nt for the price tag, including myself regardless wether it had the games or not. I might aswell wait for mgs4 to hit by which point the system wll be cheaper. I heard the ps3 is selling for £387 now at a certain shop. Thats a £50 price drop already.
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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

So what you are saying is that those people are waiting for something that si not going to happen?

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[QUOTE="AlumaProDave"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

[QUOTE="AlumaProDave"][QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.legalize3

Well as of now the PS3 is still losing around $200.00 per system, and 360 is making around $70.00 per system. So Microsoft will do whatever it needs to do to secure a big price advantage, and they also have a lot of AAA games on the way. Look for the premium to drop to $299.99 and the core to $199.99 this Xmas.

microflop needs to source out almost everything inside the xbox360

where sony has nothing to source out only the rsx

BIG DIFFERENCE

Blu-ray means the world to Sony, and are preying to dear god that this thing does not drive them into a bigger financial hole than they are already in as a company. Microsoft has billions and can do what they want if they decide to get really aggessive.

blue laser diodes dropped from $125 to $8

sony also has billions maby not as much as microsoft but enough to also get agressive man really money is not a point for both companys

Wow! Thats some misinformation. Blue laser diodes were NEVER $125. Initial analysis of the PS3 stated that the cost of the ENTIRE blu-ray DRIVE was $125. The drop in price of the diode might only be a matter of a few dollars, and may not entail a pricecut anytime soon.

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[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.FlamingFlamingo

Dude, do you never stop? Remember you last thread about revenue? Remember how that ended? People aren't accepting the PS3, deal with it 

X360 is only accepted by previous Xbox owners and the typical Halo fans. Otherwise, PS3 is where it's at. Get real.

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#77 HappyInvader101
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The PS3 is wanted by people, people just cant afford it
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[QUOTE="FlamingFlamingo"]

[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

Dude, do you never stop? Remember you last thread about revenue? Remember how that ended? People aren't accepting the PS3, deal with it

X360 is only accepted by previous Xbox owners and the typical Halo fans. Otherwise, PS3 is where it's at. Get real.

If that statement is true, then there are about 10 million Halo fans/Xbox owners and the PS3 is at the land of overpriced consoles which consist mainly of bad exclusives (except for two, and I'm being generous) and tons of multiplatform ports.

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#79 HeedleGlavin
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So are the Wii and the 360.

The franchises old and new are still coming in and are coming later this year or the next.

fatzombiepigeon
My thoughts exactly. There are shortages of Wii everywhere - so, rest assured, there are plenty of people waiting on Wii.
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#80 iammason
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Yeah, and lots of people aren't waiting to get a 360 still? Watch the sales spike when Halo 3 drops.
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#81 colmusterd28
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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

 

And in other news... fanboyism runs rampid in several parts of the world... news at 10... 

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#82 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]Rule #1 of Business: Consumers have little patience.legalize3

thats why xbox360 is selling like crazy everywhere :lol:

 

its called nationalism...which is why japan buckles up for PS3 and Wii

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#83 3picuri3
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So Sony is going with the Field of Dreams approach eh? If you build it --- they will come....

now they're dealing with the: 'Oh my God! We built it, and only the fanboys came --- hide the Jolt Cola.'.

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#84 Hoffgod
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How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.NYCgamer47

Yeah, people are waiting on the PS3, just like they're waiting on the Wii. There's a difference though.
People waiting for the PS3 are waiting until 2008 or 2009.
People waiting for the Wii are waiting for the next shipment to hit shelves next Sunday.

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#85 cjnwo4life
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[QUOTE="NYCgamer47"]How can anyone in their right mind believe that PS3 will never overtake X360. Simply put, it WILL. No analysis necessary. Millions and millions of people are out there in the world waiting for that price drop; waiting for those AAA games to come out. Trust me. It will happen. It's inevitable. PLAYSTATION 3.acviper123

While I have to agree with you that millions are waiting, the question is, how long are they willing to wait? Why wait for a $50 price drop, when you could just go and get a 360 now. Most people are not patient, and they dont want to wait to play video games. 

You nailed it and when the 360 has it's first price cut everyone that was waiting for either due to price will go out in mass to get it. The library will be huge by then and it will still be cheaper than the ps3. Consumers will wait for a price cut, but the company that will benefit will be MS and Nintendo since both will be in that under 250 range while the ps3 will be at the cheapest $400.