The Conduit(wii)has more polygons on screen than Uncharted2. Tech Graphics king?

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Uncharted 2 is considered a graphical powerhouse with all its pre-rendered scripts and fire-effects, yet to be honest, it barely has many polygons on screen. Which means using bright quick events, and paying off review sites and bullshots to show for what Uncharted 2 really is, a poorly visual technical game with pre-rendered effects.  Conduit  Uncharted 2 First of all let's get into serious detail here: -The polygons in the Uncharted 2 shot are all over the place and some are not finished making bad texture. The gun fire and bullets hitting the wall behind Uncharted are covered in motion blur and bright colors to trick people into thinking it's realistic, when you can clearly see it's poorly done. -The ceiling in the Conduit screenshot had more texture polygons than most of the Uncharted pic. This is undeniable and the fact it stays a consistent quality with the draw distance is very impressive. While they have to use blur where the fire is in Uncharted to pretend its like an action flick but in fact, it's poor draw distance. -The Lighting on Uncharted is VERY POOR, The Window sills behind Uncharted are are super bright, yet the fire in the background where most of the light is coming from, is facing toward uncharted, which has shaded textures. not to mention with fire, there should be red tint in the textures but the PS3 cannot handle that. The Lighting in the Conduit is dynamic and moves and contains the quality with the draw distance. -The Conduit has MUCH MORE objects on the screen it can handle. the Uncharted Pic has to blur the Fire and the wooden pole in the foregorund to the left because it needs more memory to put all its focus on the spark that appears while Uncharted fires his gun.Things like the Floor, the pile of rubble nest to Uncharted, everything on the ceiling, and the fire, are ALL PRE-RENDERED, and nothing is going on except Uncharted shooting and enemy fire. -The Conduit however, can HANDLE GRAPHICS MUCH BETTER at once. While keeping the same quality with out cutting draw distance. The enemy moves, the light is dynamic and can be changed or viewed while moving around the window and is polygonal. And that's for EACH WINDOW. You are also moving and the gun fire from your gun as well. Don't forget the Light Reflections on the ceiling also move. And the Symbols on the pillars flash black and white, and can be zoomed up close to reveal those are also polygons and not Pre-Rendered. -The Conduit also retains the quality while in movement, while in Uncharted tons of blur, frame skips, and texture drops with pixels popping out and even lower draw distance happens. With even worse lighting. SO THE CONCLUSION is: The conduit for Wii has: >Better draw distance >Can handle more objects >Has more polygons on screen >Much more Dynamic Lighting >Much more texture support. >Less blur/pixel coverup. >Won't turn to crap in motion Than Uncharted 2. Thus The Conduit for Wii is the graphics king/one of the graphics kings and is graphically superior to all PS3 exclusives including God of War 3, Killzone 3, and Crysis 2 multiplat. Hopefully this helps some people. It's good to get the correct and informed information instead of distorted misinformation by rabid fans and paid review sites.
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Don't know much about all the technical lingo, but my eyes are bleeding after seeing that Conduit screenshot.

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The Conduit is the new graphics king.

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I don't understand the point of this thread....

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The Conduit is henceforth the graphical benchmark for all console games.
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#7 Dj-Dampleaf
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I don't understand the point of this thread....

ShadowMoses900
Here you go:
The Conduit is henceforth the graphical benchmark for all console games.charizard1605
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#9 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't understand the point of this thread....

Dj-Dampleaf

Here you go:
The Conduit is henceforth the graphical benchmark for all console games.charizard1605

I think he was trolling.....

Besides he is a fanboy. Why do you care about what he says? No offense intended of course, the same could be said about me after all.

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The Conduit is henceforth the graphical benchmark for all console games.charizard1605

:lol:

No!:lol:

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#11 Dj-Dampleaf
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Fell free to point out errors, but there are none. Conduit it is clearly superior, and I even used the best Uncharted Pic posted on the site all cows agree on 12-14 pages back for the thread.
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Did you just call Nathan Drake "Uncharted?"
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[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"] Here you go: [QUOTE="charizard1605"]The Conduit is henceforth the graphical benchmark for all console games.ShadowMoses900

I think he was trolling.....

Besides he is a fanboy. Why do you care about what he says? No offense intended of course, the same could be said about me after all.

Well, there's undeniable proof in the OP.
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This thread needs more screens:

The_Conduit_-_E3-Nintendo_WiiScreenshots

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lulz good one nintendo, show how current and hip you are by hyping polys-per-sec, something nobody has mentioned since 2004.

next up they will drop that blast processing bomb they have been sitting on until the time is right.

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Too long *shrugs*

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This thread needs more screens:

The_Conduit_-_E3-Nintendo_WiiScreenshots

conduit01.jpg

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First Pic shows incredible lighting of which has yet to be unmatched again. Which is also dynamic when you are actually playing this part. Even on the gun and the gun already has a light on it but it blends. the Second pic? Consistent draw distance and tons of A.I. and polygon objects moving and on screen at once while keeping said draw distance with no distortion. It's... Beautiful.
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All this thread shows is how talented naughty Dog is at texturing.

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

This thread needs more screens:

Dj-Dampleaf

First Pic shows incredible lighting of which has yet to be unmatched again. Which is also dynamic when you are actually playing this part. Even on the gun and the gun already has a light on it but it blends. the Second pic? Consistent draw distance and tons of A.I. and polygon objects moving and on screen at once while keeping said draw distance with no distortion. It's... Beautiful.

I will admit The Conduit is technically impressive.

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Uncharted 2 is one of the most impressive games ever look at the snow effects in the game.

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All this thread shows is how talented naughty Dog is at texturing.

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You mean blurred textures and low draw distance and texture distortion translating to texture wrapping on some textures with pixels? On a game with nothing going on but 2 guns firing?
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I would seriously love to cry at how terrible the conduit looks for a wii game.The conduit 2 crushes it in terms of artstyle.

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I don't think people get the point of this thread. It's pretty much a parody of console gamers

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I would seriously love to cry at how terrible the conduit looks for a wii game.The conduit 2 crushes it in terms of artstyle.

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Artstyle=/= Draw Distance, lighting, polygons effects and textures not pre-rendered, global dominance, object endurance, polygons on screen at once, A.I variety in crowded environment, fast active pallete swapping, no motion blur or texture distortion.
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I don't think people get the point of this thread. It's pretty much a parody of console gamers

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I kinda already knew that.

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I would seriously love to cry at how terrible the conduit looks for a wii game.The conduit 2 crushes it in terms of artstyle.

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I think The Conduit is better technically in a way or two.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I don't think people get the point of this thread. It's pretty much a parody of console gamers

super600

I kinda already knew that.

No this is serious business. i have a campaign to run. Btw, vote for me for President of the Communist Republic of Nintendo and follow our prophet, Peter Molyneus who broke away from the capitalist Microsoft and written his teachings, so it is written. but seriously, Uncharted 2 cuts too much, i don't understand the hype for the game being called Graphics king when even a Game like Gears of War 3 is more impressive and beyond. Uncharted is near a movie too, how do you do that?
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#28 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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The words you type do not form sensible sentences.
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No Evidence=Obvious BS

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I don't think people get the point of this thread. It's pretty much a parody of console gamers

Dj-Dampleaf

I kinda already knew that.

No this is serious business. i have a campaign to run. Btw, vote for me for President of the Communist Republic of Nintendo and follow our prophet, Peter Molyneus who broke away from the capitalist Microsoft and written his teachings, so it is written. but seriously, Uncharted 2 cuts too much, i don't understand the hype for the game being called Graphics king when even a Game like Gears of War 3 is more impressive and beyond. Uncharted is near a movie too, how do you do that?

I'm too tired to amuse your antics :P

But it is refreshing to hear something other than the normal troll stupidity

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I don't think people get the point of this thread. It's pretty much a parody of console gamers

Dj-Dampleaf

I kinda already knew that.

No this is serious business. i have a campaign to run. Btw, vote for me for President of the Communist Republic of Nintendo and follow our prophet, Peter Molyneus who broke away from the capitalist Microsoft and written his teachings, so it is written. but seriously, Uncharted 2 cuts too much, i don't understand the hype for the game being called Graphics king when even a Game like Gears of War 3 is more impressive and beyond. Uncharted is near a movie too, how do you do that?

you remind me of that guy who made so many threads about uncharted and gears of war.;)

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No Evidence=Obvious BS

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All evidence is in the Pics and the points that are lined out in the OP. Nothing in it is wrong.
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[QUOTE="super600"]

I would seriously love to cry at how terrible the conduit looks for a wii game.The conduit 2 crushes it in terms of artstyle.

Michael0134567

I think The Conduit is better technically in a way or two.

The terrible artstyle hides the technical graphics for that game.

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[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="super600"]

I kinda already knew that.

seanmcloughlin

No this is serious business. i have a campaign to run. Btw, vote for me for President of the Communist Republic of Nintendo and follow our prophet, Peter Molyneus who broke away from the capitalist Microsoft and written his teachings, so it is written. but seriously, Uncharted 2 cuts too much, i don't understand the hype for the game being called Graphics king when even a Game like Gears of War 3 is more impressive and beyond. Uncharted is near a movie too, how do you do that?

I'm too tired to amuse your antics :P

But it is refreshing to hear something other than the normal troll stupidity

But that's what this is.
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="super600"]

I would seriously love to cry at how terrible the conduit looks for a wii game.The conduit 2 crushes it in terms of artstyle.

super600

I think The Conduit is better technically in a way or two.

The terrible artstyle hides the technical graphics for that game.

It's been so long since I last played it, but I remember the effects being quite a bit better in the first game, especially the explosions.
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so what you're trying to say is that The Conduit developers should have copied what the Uncharted guys did because faked or not, Uncharted looks better. I love The Conduit btw and i do think it looks good.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] No this is serious business. i have a campaign to run. Btw, vote for me for President of the Communist Republic of Nintendo and follow our prophet, Peter Molyneus who broke away from the capitalist Microsoft and written his teachings, so it is written. but seriously, Uncharted 2 cuts too much, i don't understand the hype for the game being called Graphics king when even a Game like Gears of War 3 is more impressive and beyond. Uncharted is near a movie too, how do you do that?McStrongfast

I'm too tired to amuse your antics :P

But it is refreshing to hear something other than the normal troll stupidity

But that's what this is.

Nah, At least he's trying and he's coming up with his own stupid terms and slogans and a character to go along with it.

Most other guys just say clearly stupid stuff where you know they're not serious at all. Like "it's a fact that most PS3 exclusives look better than some of the best PC games" or something along those lines

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="super600"]

I would seriously love to cry at how terrible the conduit looks for a wii game.The conduit 2 crushes it in terms of artstyle.

super600

I think The Conduit is better technically in a way or two.

The terrible artstyle hides the technical graphics for that game.

NO WHY YOU FORSAKEN YOUR COUNTRY!!!!! Why ishiko nah banna cream icecream Fordmustdang Drive firewood? That was communist for: "In the Uncharted pic you can't even see because there's so much blur." but you have nerve to say Conduits visuals, with superior lighting, hide its tech graphics? I heard it's hunting season in capitalist country, quick, you can still come join us at CRN!
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conduit1 also has better wiimote controls than conduit2.

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so what you're trying to say is that The Conduit developers should have copied what the Uncharted guys did because faked or not, Uncharted looks better. I love The Conduit btw and i do think it looks good.VideoGameGuy
No uncharted guys should have copied Conduit. Gaming moves Forward. 3Do FMV games has better lighting and draw distance. Not to mention could hold more on screen. We are back to Tomb Raider on Playstation one?
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Good attention to detail. Too bad the conduit was a glitchy and crappy game but uncharted isn't that great either... And I'm no expert but kratos from god of war 3 probably has more polygons in his character model than in that entire conduit screen if I'm not mistaken.
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conduit1 also has better wiimote controls than conduit2.

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COMMUNIST NOMINATION CANDIDATETATION! I told you guys. It's all in the Wii, the most powerful console this gen. Only possibly matched by Original Xbox, who can oddly enough hold more on screen and keep consistant draw distance than the 360. but 360 is unreliable and PS3 was designed by drugged mad men who thought they were penguins, and also YLOD. YOU will LOSE on personal DATA.
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Good attention to detail. Too bad the conduit was a glitchy and crappy game but uncharted isn't that great either... And I'm no expert but kratos from god of war 3 probably has more polygons in his character model than in that entire conduit screen if I'm not mistaken.Ghost120x
Nope, certain area are pre-rendered in God of War 3, and everything around that model gets destroyed while in those scenes which is why GOW 3 is known for inconsistency.
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As someone that knows about this kind of stuff, you're talking complete and utter s*it and have no idea what you're saying.
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COMMUNIST NOMINATION CANDIDATETATION! .Dj-Dampleaf

Can't see that one catching on, sorry :P

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As someone that knows about this kind of stuff, you're talking complete and utter s*it and have no idea what you're saying.bobbetybob
And yet you remain mute, because the truth is in the Op.
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]As someone that knows about this kind of stuff, you're talking complete and utter s*it and have no idea what you're saying.Dj-Dampleaf
And yet you remain mute, because the truth is in the Op.

And yet I remain mute because I'm not going to type out a genuine detailed response since this is either a troll thread or you have serious mental deficiencies and I'd rather not argue with you either way.
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-The Lighting on Uncharted is VERY POOR, The Window sills behind Uncharted are are super bright, yet the fire in the background where most of the light is coming from, is facing toward uncharted, which has shaded textures. not to mention with fire, there should be red tint in the textures but the PS3 cannot handle that. The Lighting in the Conduit is dynamic and moves and contains the quality with the draw distance.Dj-Dampleaf

Do you seriously think the name of the character is Uncharted? Obviously you haven't played this game.

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[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] -The Lighting on Uncharted is VERY POOR, The Window sills behind Uncharted are are super bright, yet the fire in the background where most of the light is coming from, is facing toward uncharted, which has shaded textures. not to mention with fire, there should be red tint in the textures but the PS3 cannot handle that. The Lighting in the Conduit is dynamic and moves and contains the quality with the draw distance.verbtex

Do you seriously think the name of the character is Uncharted? Obviously you haven't played this game.

I have played Uncharted before. You use the shoulder buttons to throw grenades for example. The game is full of Qte's, and the fact you don't use the triggers to do most actions annoys me despite their unpopularity.