The console increases in POWER over the years. is it all taped out or more

Xbox 360 launched in 2005 and PS3 launched in 2006. Some developers have said that they have taped out the console but the games seem to still imporve with each year. Each year the games have improved.

• Graphics
• Physics
• AI
• abilities (able to interact with objects on ground, peer around conner while flat against the wall, better charter movement...)

Which console has made the biggest improvements over the years and which games show this off for each year. Has the consoles been fully used or is there better games ahead in the years to come??

sorry cant edit poll ment to say Question "Has the consoles reached their peek or do they have more power left in them for the years ahead"

I'm not a PS3 or XBOX 360 Owner, so I say that the PS3 and XBOX 360 are likely nearing the end of their lifespan. Their peak of power was passed, now its on the decline.

Well, Halo Reach is utlizing 95% of the 360's resources (Including the CPU), while KZ2 utilized 60%, GOW3 utilized 50-60%, U2 utilized 80%, while the Last Guardian, KZ3, and Infamous 2 are unknown, though all of these titles are the best looking games around graphically on consoles. Judging by that, i would say the PS3 still has more to give, while the release of HR will be the point where 360 taps out.

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"][QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

Well, Halo Reach is utlizing 95% of the 360's resources (Including the CPU), while KZ2 utilized 60%, GOW3 utilized 50-60%, U2 utilized 80%, while the Last Guardian,KZ3, and Infamous 2are unknown, thoughall of these titles are thebest looking games around graphically on consoles. Judging by that, i would say the PS3 still has more to give, while the release of HR will be the point where 360 taps out.

TehKillzonelova

Says youRaymundo_Manuel

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"] ...:?. Great post :roll:

TehKillzonelova

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"][QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

Well, Halo Reach is utlizing 95% of the 360's resources (Including the CPU), while KZ2 utilized 60%, GOW3 utilized 50-60%, U2 utilized 80%, while the Last Guardian,KZ3, and Infamous 2are unknown, thoughall of these titles are thebest looking games around graphically on consoles. Judging by that, i would say the PS3 still has more to give, while the release of HR will be the point where 360 taps out.

TehKillzonelova

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Where did you pull your numbers out of?SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"] What Devs statedTehKillzonelova

The consoles can barely output 720p at some games. They have to go sub hd just to be able to run some games properly. Sooo....yeah consoles are tapped out. i say that from this point on we will see only minor improvements.

Obviously need links.

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

I cant find links for every single one. I do not have the time, though these were from links and vids

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]

Uh-huh. :roll:

SparkyProtocol

Considering Alan Wake looked so jaw dropping, Mass Effect 2 looked stunning and Rage runs at 60fps on 360 with actual proof, i guess 360 is not even used at all right now

The consoles can barely output 720p at some games. They have to go sub hd just to be able to run some games properly. Sooo....yeah consoles are tapped out. i say that from this point on we will see only minor improvements.

painguy1

Both have a ways to go. Devs will find new ways to improve

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

The consoles can barely output 720p at some games. They have to go sub hd just to be able to run some games properly. Sooo....yeah consoles are tapped out. i say that from this point on we will see only minor improvements.

TehKillzonelova

And which PS3 exclusives have huge open worlds and amazing visuals ?

Infamous 2 that has a big world, looks dated and totally mediocre imo, the textures, shaders, lighting,detail, blocky buildings, etc remind me of some early DX8 PC games at best

Why not look at RDR, that has next gen graphics and a huge world, and runs better on 360 in full HD, than sub HD and with a blur filter on PS3

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

The consoles can barely output 720p at some games. They have to go sub hd just to be able to run some games properly. Sooo....yeah consoles are tapped out. i say that from this point on we will see only minor improvements.

a_simple_gamer

And which PS3 exclusives have huge open worlds and amazing visuals ?

Infamous 2 that has a big world, looks dated and totally mediocre imo, the textures, shaders, lighting,detail, blocky buildings, etc remind me of some early DX8 PC games at best

Why not look at RDR, that has next gen graphics and a huge world, and runs better on 360 in full HD, than sub HD and with a blur filter on PS3

*Facepalm*. Wow....If infamous 2 looks mediocre, then RDR looks last gen...

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

a_simple_gamer

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

TehKillzonelova

You didn't play games last gen did you?

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

You didn't play games last gen did you?

...O.K....:?. If you dont believe what Devs state about their own game, then fine, be my guest

TehKillzonelova

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

TehKillzonelova

I watched Infamous 2 video, the whole thing looks totally mediocre, nothing next gen about it, sorry

Posting the cinematic pics wont help you at all, when i have actually SEEN the gameplay, that looks mediocre visually (at best)

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

I watched Infamous 2 video, the whole thing looks totally mediocre, nothing next gen about it, sorry

Posting the cinematic pics wont help you at all, when i have actually SEEN the gameplay, that looks mediocre visually (at best)

Both the 360 and the PS3 have grown and will continue growing. While Uncharted 2 does stand above the rest, but most other games out are just a moot point in quality. I honestly think this graphical battle between the consoles is hitting newer and newer lows each day. I especially love how many people on system wars have become some sort of incredible developers in game design.designer-

*looks at poster's username*

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"] The images are taken from DIRECT FEED OF THE GAMEPALY VIDEO, and GTA4 on consoles looks last gen

TehKillzonelova

I watched Infamous 2 video, the whole thing looks totally mediocre, nothing next gen about it, sorry

Posting the cinematic pics wont help you at all, when i have actually SEEN the gameplay, that looks mediocre visually (at best)

My posts are the reality, i have SEEN the video, so anything you may say after that and any number of cut scene and bullshots postedis meaningless

I agree PS3 can do incredible visuals, but Infamous 2 is hands down the worst and most dated looking PS3 exclusive i have seen by a landslide

Not the lighting again. *facepalm*

[QUOTE="designer-"]Both the 360 and the PS3 have grown and will continue growing. While Uncharted 2 does stand above the rest, but most other games out are just a moot point in quality. I honestly think this graphical battle between the consoles is hitting newer and newer lows each day. I especially love how many people on system wars have become some sort of incredible developers in game design.SparkyProtocol

*looks at poster's username*

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

The consoles can barely output 720p at some games. They have to go sub hd just to be able to run some games properly. Sooo....yeah consoles are tapped out. i say that from this point on we will see only minor improvements.

a_simple_gamer

And which PS3 exclusives have huge open worlds and amazing visuals ?

Infamous 2 that has a big world, looks dated and totally mediocre imo, the textures, shaders, lighting,detail, blocky buildings, etc remind me of some early DX8 PC games at best

Why not look at RDR, that has next gen graphics and a huge world, and runs better on 360 in full HD, than sub HD and with a blur filter on PS3

360 don't run the RDR in full HD but in HD which is 1280x720. And yes Infamous 2 look better than RDR.

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

The consoles can barely output 720p at some games. They have to go sub hd just to be able to run some games properly. Sooo....yeah consoles are tapped out. i say that from this point on we will see only minor improvements.

a_simple_gamer

And which PS3 exclusives have huge open worlds and amazing visuals ?

Infamous 2 that has a big world, looks dated and totally mediocre imo, the textures, shaders, lighting,detail, blocky buildings, etc remind me of some early DX8 PC games at best

Why not look at RDR, that has next gen graphics and a huge world, and runs better on 360 in full HD, than sub HD and with a blur filter on PS3

hmmmmm, where have I seen posting like this before???? throw in some foliage comments and I'd say saolin/obamanian/the seekar has a new account;)

GOW uses 50%

U2 using close to all and Killzone 2 60%

not that i care much about this discussion, but you REALLY should provide some backup if you're gonna claim something.

The difference is that RDR is a real game, and not some bullshots

In real video, Infamous 2 looks mediocre and very dated, the lighting especially is extremely old looking, same for the blocky similar everywhere buildings, lat texturesetc

GTA4 looked far better too

a_simple_gamer

I think they've both about Peaked. Xbox has been out 5 (?) years, and PS3 about 4 (?). Thats about when Xbox and GC peaked out, though I think this generations will go on longer then the last, since there is no sign of a next generation of consoles yet.

GOW uses 50%

U2 using close to all and Killzone 2 60%

not that i care much about this discussion, but you REALLY should provide some backup if you're gonna claim something.

VideoGameGuy

That is not true because if this games use 60% of ps3 power, then why this games run at 1280x720 and 30fps(and sometimes down to 20fps)?

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/26/is-gears-of-war-as-good-as-it-gets/

:roll:

Both have yet to show their full potential but the improvements will be smaller with time

Lets get somthing straight here. ALL console's power does not increase over time. That's a fixed value right when it rolls off the assembly line. It's the developer's understanding of the unique architectures that increases over time from experience, allowing them to use more and more of the system's potential. It's why it took time to see games like Gears 1/2, Force Unleashed, Uncharted 2, KZ2, ME2, Rage, Alan Wake, etc...

And there's nothing to suggest either that devs have learned everything about either console, from all the architectural features to how to more efficiently use the SDK tools, so I'm sure we'll still see some new benchmarks yet. Lets please drop all talk of any system being "tapped out".

That is not true because if this games use 60% of ps3 power, then why this games run at 1280x720 and 30fps(and sometimes down to 20fps)?

MK-Professor

wii is the only one i think can massively update!

think about it

sony has hinted back in 2007 they wanted t odo a ps2.5 so they are thinkin of doin that next gen , -just add the 3d and motion of course is what you get

some tweaks to features other wise ya

360 same thing , i just dont see how further they can go , , without chargin another 500-700 down ,

the wii has room because they choose what sony should have choose this gen -slow and steady winsthe race, ,

appearently its workin

cause now when the 3d market is ready nintendo can easily make one that cost 200 -250 at the most that does all the stuff ps4 will do and more

thanks to the moeny they made off of ds wii and soon 3ds and its games,

im pretty certain nintendos got big guns now!

Ps3 exclusives (uncharted 2,killzone 2,heavy rain) are all linear,no co op campaign,no multiple onscreen AI & small scale. God of war 3 is has fixed camera so it could hide textures & feels more like 2d,the titan level scale is not realy that huge the whole background in that level could easily be rendered as 2d. Infamous 2 the only ps3 exclusive that attempts open world sandbox fails to look impressive & looks so outdated.Honestly infamouse 2 from what i've looks on par with prototype. Xbox 360 exclusives are system tasking & more complicated. Halo reach is an open world sandbox which will be bigger than halo 3,it has 4 players co op campaign,multiple ative AI onscreen & good vissuals. Gears of war 3 runs 4 players co op campaign smoothly with increased on screen AI yet it looked vissualy stunning over gears of war 2. Crysis 2 & Rage that was played on xbox 360 at the e3 looks better than any game on ps3.Id tech carmack must still be struglin to push 60fps for ps3 ver of rage while the 360's ver at e3 looks capped already at 60fps. The 360 still has more to give.Ps3 exclusives only look good because they are just linear non-system tasking games & are all high budgets.monkeysmoke

I agree with everything there, 360 runs Rage at 60 fps and RDR far betterand has a better GPU than PS3, thus imo has far more to give if some developer actually decides to make games just for it, than use Unreal engine