The Console War begins properly in 2008, PS3 > Wii > 360

Thats right, 2008 will be the year the battle will properly take place. PS3 and Wii are relatively new consoles and they need this year for developers to understand them and learn to use them well. The reason 360 is getting more exclusives and better multiplatform titles is because the 360 has been out for well over a year, the developers know the 360's architecture pretty damn well, and its only fair for you to give PS3 the same oppertunity. Heck I'm not implying that we forget about the sales altogether but we don't rush to conclusion this early. 2008 will be the year the PS3 goes to the next level, I guarantee there will be a difference between PS3 and 360 graphics in PS3's favour.

Do you guys really expect that PS3 will sell 10's of millions and gain 100's of exclusives in its first year out :|

I'm betting that the sales difference between PS3 and 360 will be minimal by year end and 2008 is when PS3 PWNS 360.

Just like it was supposed to start when it launched in Europe? Just like it was supposed to start when it launched in NA?foxhound_fox

So you've completely giving up on "07 ?

I don't blame you. 

Just like it was supposed to start when it launched in Europe? Just like it was supposed to start when it launched in NA?foxhound_fox

...just like it was supposed to start when sony says it does? 

The Console War began when the 360 came out

A Winner will be a bit more clear in 08 though 

Yes bash the consoles ! but don't forget that its early times and jumping to conclusion is fanboyish when you consider this gen is atleast 6 years long ! 

the proper war will begin in 2008 when all the next gen consoles would have been out for a year (especially 360) !

damn is it so hard for you guys to understand :x

which is EXACTLY why I made this topic

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25580383

that will prove the TC wrong

I think PS3 will hit 10 mil by the year end

and start to fly in 2008

Yes bash the consoles ! but don't forget that its early times and jumping to conclusion is fanboyish when you consider this gen is atleast 6 years long !

the proper war will begin in 2008 when all the next gen consoles would have been out for a year (especially 360) 

damn is it so hard for you guys to understand :x

AB_Uppercut

problem is that the PS2 dominated the competition with a year head start, while the GC and Xbox struggled to get a foot hold...just like...well you get the idea. 

My system of choice is flopping commercially around the world, and falling flat on it's face due to poor design choices that really only cater to a small percentage of the market the previous incarnation of my system of choice had.  Because these design choices alienated the existing market, and developers are avoiding my system like the plague, I'm going to ramble about potential, and play the "wait for it" card, because honestly, what else am I going to do at this point?AB_Uppercut

That's what anyone who is not a Sony fanboy will see. 

This TC is like the kid while playing a game of Fooz Ball, claims that when the other guy scores a goal on him, then it was just practice and didnt count, because the game didnt start yet.... THen he scores a goal, and says.... "1-0, for ME!! I RULE" 

HEY BUDDY, YOU DONT DECIDE WHEN SYSTEM WARS STARTS..... THE GAMING COMMUNITY DOES, AND ITS GAME ON SINCE NOV. 06!

sONY HAS NO CHANCE IT FAILED LOL I LIKE FRIED CHICKEN

This year is more of a preliminary battle leading on to the true battle which will take place from next year. Claiming that a particular console has already one is stupid when you consider that Wii and PS3 have only been out for 6 months (PS3 one month in Europe) and the fact that this gen will last atleast 5-6 years. What is happening now could be very different to what would be happening next year or the next etc etc.

For now we can only speculate, hmmm....

Thats right, 2008 will be the year the battle will properly take place. PS3 and Wii are relatively new consoles and they need this year for developers to understand them and learn to use them well. The reason 360 is getting more exclusives and better multiplatform titles is because the 360 has been out for well over a year, the developers know the 360's architecture pretty damn well, and its only fair for you to give PS3 the same oppertunity. Heck I'm not implying that we forget about the sales altogether but we don't rush to conclusion this early. 2008 will be the year the PS3 goes to the next level, I guarantee there will be a difference between PS3 and 360 graphics in PS3's favour.

Do you guys really expect that PS3 will sell 10's of millions and gain 100's of exclusives in its first year out :|

I'm betting that the sales difference between PS3 and 360 will be minimal by year end and 2008 is when PS3 PWNS 360.

 

AB_Uppercut

Yep by then Halo3 would have come and gone,we would have a a Christmas with all consoles on a equal footing and MGS4 and FFXIII hit the PS3.Blu Ray should be well on its way to win the format wars by then as well.

This year is more of a preliminary battle leading on to the true battle which will take place from next year. Claiming that a particular console has already one is stupid when you consider that Wii and PS3 have only been out for 6 months (PS3 one month in Europe) and the fact that this gen will last atleast 5-6 years. What is happening now could be very different to what would be happening next year or the next etc etc.

For now we can only speculate, hmmm....

AB_Uppercut

With a X360 price drop, the Elite, Halo 3, ever evolving XBL,a cheaper way for the casuals to play GTA 4.......Sony is going to be playing catch up in 2008 and 2009, not leading anything. 

Do you guys really expect that PS3 will sell 10's of millions and gain 100's of exclusives in its first year out?

AB_Uppercut

No, but I'm pretty sure this time a year ago you did.

man you cows must like waiting. have fun waiting while i play amazing games on my 360.

This TC is like the kid while playing a game of Fooz Ball, claims that when the other guy scores a goal on him, then it was just practice and didnt count, because the game didnt start yet.... THen he scores a goal, and says.... "1-0, for ME!! I RULE" 

HEY BUDDY, YOU DONT DECIDE WHEN SYSTEM WARS STARTS..... THE GAMING COMMUNITY DOES, AND ITS GAME ON SINCE NOV. 06!

Zandeus

this is the console war not foozball :|

Yes I'm not denying that the battle had started ages ago but that does not mean a clear winner has been already decided. We still don't know what each of these machines are capable of, especially the PS3. Assuming that 360 pwns PS3 in all aspects is just fan-boy trash that you want to shove down everyones throat.

We can only predict and I'm predicting PS3 to pwn 360 in 08. notice I said predict and not fact.

This year is more of a preliminary battle leading on to the true battle which will take place from next year. Claiming that a particular console has already one is stupid when you consider that Wii and PS3 have only been out for 6 months (PS3 one month in Europe) and the fact that this gen will last atleast 5-6 years. What is happening now could be very different to what would be happening next year or the next etc etc.

For now we can only speculate, hmmm....

AB_Uppercut

Hahahah riiiiiight 

apperntly nothing starts till sony says solandogg69

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This TC is like the kid while playing a game of Fooz Ball, claims that when the other guy scores a goal on him, then it was just practice and didnt count, because the game didnt start yet.... THen he scores a goal, and says.... "1-0, for ME!! I RULE" 

HEY BUDDY, YOU DONT DECIDE WHEN SYSTEM WARS STARTS..... THE GAMING COMMUNITY DOES, AND ITS GAME ON SINCE NOV. 06!

AB_Uppercut

this is the console war not foozball :|

Yes I'm not denying that the battle had started ages ago but that does not mean a clear winner has been already decided. We still don't know what each of these machines are capable of, especially the PS3. Assuming that 360 pwns PS3 in all aspects is just fan-boy trash that you want to shove down everyones throat.

We can only predict and I'm predicting PS3 to pwn 360 in 08. notice I said predict and not fact.

Ok, lets get this straight. You get to assume, yet when someone makes an assumtion that conflicts with your assumption, their biased fanboys? Wow, a contradicting cow.

Yes bash the consoles ! but don't forget that its early times and jumping to conclusion is fanboyish when you consider this gen is atleast 6 years long !

the proper war will begin in 2008 when all the next gen consoles would have been out for a year (especially 360) !

damn is it so hard for you guys to understand :x

AB_Uppercut

 Yes saying something will happen and pass it of as fact. But at least we base it in the reality of the situation right now and the forseeable future. So your thread title PS3 > Wii > 360 is not only a fanboyish statement but currently the least probable.

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This TC is like the kid while playing a game of Fooz Ball, claims that when the other guy scores a goal on him, then it was just practice and didnt count, because the game didnt start yet.... THen he scores a goal, and says.... "1-0, for ME!! I RULE"

HEY BUDDY, YOU DONT DECIDE WHEN SYSTEM WARS STARTS..... THE GAMING COMMUNITY DOES, AND ITS GAME ON SINCE NOV. 06!

Pro_wrestler

this is the console war not foozball :|

Yes I'm not denying that the battle had started ages ago but that does not mean a clear winner has been already decided. We still don't know what each of these machines are capable of, especially the PS3. Assuming that 360 pwns PS3 in all aspects is just fan-boy trash that you want to shove down everyones throat.

We can only predict and I'm predicting PS3 to pwn 360 in 08. notice I said predict and not fact.

Ok, lets get this straight. You get to assume, yet when someone makes an assumtion that conflicts with your assumption, their biased fanboys? Wow, a contradicting cow.

you hit the nail on the head there. what cows in system wars implore is a tactic developed by sony. it's called the "active denial system" or "damage control". there have been competitors trying to copy these tactics, like sheep saying gameplay > graphics or graphics don't matter when last gen they where saying ps2 looks like crap compared to gc, but only cows can do it best.

Just like it was supposed to start when it launched in Europe? Just like it was supposed to start when it launched in NA?foxhound_fox

Dude, the PS3 owned the 360 in Europe. Get your facts straight.

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Thats right, 2008 will be the year the battle will properly take place. PS3 and Wii are relatively new consoles and they need this year for developers to understand them and learn to use them well. The reason 360 is getting more exclusives and better multiplatform titles is because the 360 has been out for well over a year, the developers know the 360's architecture pretty damn well, and its only fair for you to give PS3 the same oppertunity. Heck I'm not implying that we forget about the sales altogether but we don't rush to conclusion this early. 2008 will be the year the PS3 goes to the next level, I guarantee there will be a difference between PS3 and 360 graphics in PS3's favour.

Do you guys really expect that PS3 will sell 10's of millions and gain 100's of exclusives in its first year out :|

I'm betting that the sales difference between PS3 and 360 will be minimal by year end and 2008 is when PS3 PWNS 360.

 

gsx1100

Yep by then Halo3 would have come and gone,we would have a a Christmas with all consoles on a equal footing and MGS4 and FFXIII hit the PS3.Blu Ray should be well on its way to win the format wars by then as well.

This is awesome. Every other month, the date of the "true beginning of the console war" begins. So now we have to wait till 2008, because Sony couldn't get its act together any quicker? C'mon, the 360 is outselling the PS3 right now, and considering that the PS3 is still new, this shouldn't really be happening (look at the Wii, for example). The argument that by then the PS3 will have games which finally push system sales?

Hmm.

First of all, March was supposed to be the month where that happened. Motorstorm was supposed to be a killer app racing game which showed off the graphical prowess of the PS3, and gave fans a compelling reason to purchase the system, along with Oblivion and a bunch of other games. When this didn't happen, surprisingly the story became "just wait till September, when the PS3 gets like 20 million games!!!"

In response to this quote "Yep by then Halo3 would have come and gone", I think that's being optimistic, at best. Halo 3 is THE biggest-hyped game this generation; hype for the game has been building since Halo 2 came out. To say that in 2008 the "Halo 3 effect" will have died down is extremely unrealistic. Think about it; what game do you think everyone is going to be purchasing as a gift over the holidays? HALO 3. What game is everyone going to be seeing all over the place after the holiday season? HALO 3. Everyone who doesn't have it will want it, so they can play with everyone who does. This is not to knock MGS IV or FF XIII, by any means; both will sell well, and be big hits for the PS3 (whenever they're finally released), but you can't really compare those two games with the game that'll probably be one of the biggest sellers this generation, and possibly the biggest online game as well.

In short (ironically, I know), the console war already began, and to be brutally honest, Sony is lagging behind. While 2008 may bring some change, a lot of what happens in 2008 will be decided by what is already happening this year (what system 3rd parties develop for, what system sells the most, etc.).

Why do Sony fans insist that we have to keep waiting for PS3 to dominate?  There's always a new date to "just wait for".  Meanwhile, 360 is delivering NOW.lowe0

Don't wait, I'm not talking about PS3 dominating, I'm just saying that the 1st year is all about PS3 getting ready, you know like a preliminary battle. If I was a 360 fan I would ofcourse boast about GeOW and how 360 has many exclusives etc but I would also aknowledge the fact that PS3 has only been out for 6 months (one month in Europe) and I should wait till next year to see if 360 truly has an edge over it or not.

You 360 fans are basically like talking crap about PS3 because you know this is the only oppertunity you will get because next year is the downfall of the 360.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Why do Sony fans insist that we have to keep waiting for PS3 to dominate? There's always a new date to "just wait for". Meanwhile, 360 is delivering NOW.AB_Uppercut

Don't wait, I'm not talking about PS3 dominating, I'm just saying that the 1st year is all about PS3 getting ready, you know like a preliminary battle. If I was a 360 fan I would ofcourse boast about GeOW and how 360 has many exclusives etc but I would also aknowledge the fact that PS3 has only been out for 6 months (one month in Europe) and I should wait till next year to see if 360 truly has an edge over it or not.

You 360 fans are basically like talking crap about PS3 because you know this is the only oppertunity you will get because next year is the downfall of the 360.

Almost kind of sounds like you're asking us to...just wait...

[QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Why do Sony fans insist that we have to keep waiting for PS3 to dominate? There's always a new date to "just wait for". Meanwhile, 360 is delivering NOW.D0013ER

Don't wait, I'm not talking about PS3 dominating, I'm just saying that the 1st year is all about PS3 getting ready, you know like a preliminary battle. If I was a 360 fan I would ofcourse boast about GeOW and how 360 has many exclusives etc but I would also aknowledge the fact that PS3 has only been out for 6 months (one month in Europe) and I should wait till next year to see if 360 truly has an edge over it or not.

You 360 fans are basically like talking crap about PS3 because you know this is the only oppertunity you will get because next year is the downfall of the 360.

Almost kind of sounds like you're asking us to...just wait...

Put it this way. 360 is an an experienced martial arts master while PS3 is a guy who wants to become a kung fu master but stumbles along the way yet has enormous potential. Now 360 is always roaming to get the ultimate battle and obviously he is very proud on his abilities. one day 360 stumbles along to PS3, 360 aknowledgs that his a newbie and since he is an ultimate king fu master, he cannot declare victory over PS3 because he is yet to realise his full potential.

get it :D

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enjoy your games and sales figures etc etc but don't forget that your console is fighting against newbies so since 360 has a years worth of experience it would be fare to compare PS3 to 360 once PS3 gains a year worth of experience, because we all know that at the moment 360 has the edge in games, I'm not denying that.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Why do Sony fans insist that we have to keep waiting for PS3 to dominate? There's always a new date to "just wait for". Meanwhile, 360 is delivering NOW.AB_Uppercut

Don't wait, I'm not talking about PS3 dominating, I'm just saying that the 1st year is all about PS3 getting ready, you know like a preliminary battle. If I was a 360 fan I would ofcourse boast about GeOW and how 360 has many exclusives etc but I would also aknowledge the fact that PS3 has only been out for 6 months (one month in Europe) and I should wait till next year to see if 360 truly has an edge over it or not.

You 360 fans are basically like talking crap about PS3 because you know this is the only oppertunity you will get because next year is the downfall of the 360.

Almost kind of sounds like you're asking us to...just wait...

Put it this way. 360 is an an experienced martial arts master while PS3 is a guy who wants to become a kung fu master but stumbles along the way yet has enormous potential. Now 360 is always roaming to get the ultimate battle and obviously he is very proud on his abilities. one day 360 stumbles along to PS3, 360 aknowledgs that his a newbie and since he is an ultimate king fu master, he cannot declare victory over PS3 because he is yet to realise his full potential.

get it :D

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enjoy your games and sales figures etc etc but don't forget that your console is fighting against newbies so since 360 has a years worth of experience it would be fare to compare PS3 to 360 once PS3 gains a year worth of experience, because we all know that at the moment 360 has the edge in games, I'm not denying that.

that tired old cliche only works in movies, not real life. 

Yep, and the PSP will outsell the DS :roll:Lone_Wolf5860

I prefer the DS over the PSP :|

All I'm trying to say is that boasting you are beating consoles that have just come out is silly.

[QUOTE="Lone_Wolf5860"]Yep, and the PSP will outsell the DS :roll:AB_Uppercut

I prefer the DS over the PSP :|

All I'm trying to say is that boasting you are beating consoles that have just come out is silly.

Who's boasting?... 

Thats right, 2008 will be the year the battle will properly take place. PS3 and Wii are relatively new consoles and they need this year for developers to understand them and learn to use them well. The reason 360 is getting more exclusives and better multiplatform titles is because the 360 has been out for well over a year, the developers know the 360's architecture pretty damn well, and its only fair for you to give PS3 the same oppertunity. Heck I'm not implying that we forget about the sales altogether but we don't rush to conclusion this early. 2008 will be the year the PS3 goes to the next level, I guarantee there will be a difference between PS3 and 360 graphics in PS3's favour.

Do you guys really expect that PS3 will sell 10's of millions and gain 100's of exclusives in its first year out :|

I'm betting that the sales difference between PS3 and 360 will be minimal by year end and 2008 is when PS3 PWNS 360.

 

AB_Uppercut

*sighs*

A lot of people have been saying this all along. 

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[QUOTE="Lone_Wolf5860"]Yep, and the PSP will outsell the DS :roll:D0013ER

I prefer the DS over the PSP :|

All I'm trying to say is that boasting you are beating consoles that have just come out is silly.

Who's boasting?... 

honestly, you guys. well maybe not you but I see alot of 360 fans boasting that 360 is beating PS3 and Wii in sales, not only that but you guys claim that 360 has already one the console war ! when it has just started.

How can you feel pride on winning over newbies :?

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[QUOTE="Lone_Wolf5860"]Yep, and the PSP will outsell the DS :roll:AB_Uppercut

I prefer the DS over the PSP :|

All I'm trying to say is that boasting you are beating consoles that have just come out is silly.

Who's boasting?...

honestly, you guys. well maybe not you but I see alot of 360 fans boasting that 360 is beating PS3 and Wii in sales, not only that but you guys claim that 360 has already one the console war ! when it has just started.

How can you feel pride on winning over newbies :?

How about let's not claim who's going to win until it's, I don't know...over.  You saying that PS3 will win makes about as much sense as others saying the 360 is winning...

Oh my god this post kills the sour: wait till 2008.... posts

Please stop the damage control and accept you were owned.

cows should wait for game reviews and sales before making this type of judgement. Predicting a consoles success just by looking at screenshots and videos is foolish, especially since the only killer app "AAA" game for the pS3 is an xbox 360 port.

In other words, consider this in terms of games that blow the xbox to bits, we're still waiting.