The controller makes multiplats better on Xbox One.

There's the 2nd best option too, Steam controller, sadly that's not available for consoles either...

Once you get the elite controller, you'll never turn on your PS4 again.

Plus the X1X will slaughter anything thrown at it, can't wait.

i'm not sure how aiming with thumbsticks is any more "connected" and lively than a mouse and keyboard. Nor do I see how having my hands vibrate while i'm trying to shoot things is at all helpful

Well its my opinion but what do I know. I cut my teeth playing PC FPS games in the late 90's and early 00's. When they came to consoles (post-Halo, COD 4, etc) it felt more immersive, due to feedback of the controllers. To me. And aiming with thumb sticks has a learning curve, but so does mouse and keyboard; its not like players are born masters of the skill either way.

I take the controller that doesn't cramp my hands, thanks.

I will point out I really love my Xbox Elite Controller when I game on my PC, it's the best for 3rd person when gaming multiplats but when it comes to FPS/RTS, KB/M all the way.

I also love DS4 and I personally just adapt to any controller but when it comes to performance I'll go with Xbox Elite Controller if I can.

It depends on the enviroment.. clearly if it's M+K vs Controller M+K wins depending on the skill.

also i love how you're a cow throbbler but run behind a PC when any competition slams your face.

I bet you think the PS4 controller is superior.

More like MSFT stock really... I think value doubled over the last 4 years

I dislike the sticks on the X1. Much prefer the 360 pad.

@drlostrib:

Ha, never thought I'd see the day they'd call you a cow.

You've earned your spots bro.

Hey I bought some bitcoin back then and now I have 4 times my investment :D

Then it's a good thing that the XB One controller also has lower response times.

@pdogg93

None of my XB1 controllers drift and bumpers still work perfectly. That's with Rough use and hard tile floors that break almost everything that lands on them. 360 controllers definitely had the drift issues though. Quality wise the XB1 controllers are the better than the PS4 and 360 controllers and it's not close.

While it can be true that a game on Xbone can have lower input lag on certain games, it's more about how the game is coded and not so much about your actual controller.

This is the difference between the controllers in question:

The team behind the XIM4 decided to normalize its USB polling rate in order to prevent compatibility issues among different consoles. Natively, the Xbox One and Xbox 360 have an 8ms polling rate. The PlayStation 3 is 10ms, while the PlayStation 4 can be as fast as 4ms. The XIM4 processes PlayStation 4 inputs at 8ms instead of the console’s native 4ms polling rate.

So not a win either way actually. (Though I've read that the DS4 has been hard tested for 1.8ms on fighting game websites, unfortunately they don't test Xbone controllers because fighting games lol.)

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Every game has input lag though, and the numbers are all over the place.

For example, GGXrd on PS4 has amazingly low input lag, 70ms which is roughly 4.2 frames.

Whereas Tekken 7 on PS4 has poor input lag, 135ms, roughly 8.1 frames.

It's not a consistent standard at all, and it's certainly game specific.

But even in those cases where a multiplat doesn't have parity between the two consoles, like Tekken 7 for example, the difference is so negligible it's almost laughable. The difference in milliseconds (128 vs 135) doesn't even equal half a frame, the difference can't even register. And Tekken 7 is a more extreme example, usually the difference in milliseconds is something like 2ms or 3ms lol. You're talking 0.1 frames @ 60fps, something even the worlds best competitive gamers won't notice.

To put this in perspective, the best competitive gaming monitors out there have 9ms display lag. Most of you aren't on gaming monitors though, you're on HDTVs, which can range anywhere from 20ms at best to 100+ms at worst. Add that to the typical game input lag which is somewhere in the ballpark of 100ms.

Sorry bro, 2 or 3 ms are negligible at that point, you're already dealing with well over 100ms of lag as is lol. Sometimes the Xbone will come out on top, sometimes the PS4. But either way it's useless. It's like being excited that your dick grew by 1/16 of an inch.

On SW no one is a PC fan. PC is just for hiding behind!

Lol, good one

Mouse and Keyboard feels like I'm working on a spreadsheet rather than playing a game. Controllers are for fun time, mouse and keyboard is for work time.

Ah, so this is Pray_2_Me's alt.

Welcome back bro.

WTF kind of spreadsheets are you working on that feel the same as an FPS game?

I somehow think the TCs name is disingenuous.

I would agree, but Dualshock 4 is probably the best DS has ever been, and the gap between XB1 and PS4 controllers isn't as large as it was last gen. So, I mean, sure, the Xbox One controller is better, there's no denying that, I just don't think it's that much better. Doesn't make much of a difference.

Also, until One X launches, performance on the PS4 is significantly better than Xbox One, and I'd say that counts for much more than which controller is better.

Huh? Hooked on phonics bro, get it.

I think the problem is on your end

No one would lie on the Internet

Switch Pro > DS4 and Bone controllers. Might get a second one for the 'puter.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-connect-a-nintendo-switch-controller-to-a-pc/

Aww, jealous? :)

of?

control is a pretty big deal alright but I still prefer the DS4 over the Xbone's, especially for the kind of games I play. But I've noticed the DS4 is pretty fragile. I got a PS4 Pro not even 6 months ago and while playing Ratchet & Clank the DS4's triggers started making noises like they are about to fall off at any point now. But the Pro in general have been giving me a lot of issues tho. The console itself gets pretty loud like a vacuum cleaner when playing Pro enhanced games and the USB on the back, which I hardly even use, it just doesn't work.

Dualshock 4 is the better controller, when combined with an unbeatable library of titles, and the only professional grade console on the market you have this gens clear winner.

Agreed

so you can't tell the difference between a game and a spreadsheet?

What's being said is keyboard and mouse doesn't feel fun. That's what it boils down to. At least to me.

So what you are essentially saying is PC is the best.

Because it is.

So worse controls feel more fun?

I like the dualshock 4 over the xbone. That's just the way it is so xbots should stop trying to pass off their opinion as fact. Try playing a fighting game on the Xbone controller and tell me it's more fun

@funsohng: No, I like my opponents to use a controller. M&KB is cheap.

They can be. Really depends on what kind of mouse and keyboard you buy

@reduc_ab_: I've got no problem with it, but I do prefer the offset sticks and battery like of the Xbox one controller.

That should mean you should absolutely adore PC because you CAN use a NES controller for FPS games on the platform.

He probably means his hand.

I don't think that's what he meant

you have some weird fantasies

Nothing to do with this topic though.

You constantly hide behind your PC, but blow the crap out of the PS4/PS4 controllers, yet bash people who like gaming on controllers.

like, where is yer logic bro?

Lol wut?

Did you recently suffer a knock on the head? you seem confused

You read it right

your post history confirms that

Really? Where?

everywhere

you bash people for playing with controllers, yet have no problem picking up a PS4 controller.

I didn't say I have a problem with people simply playing with controllers.

Not really sure what you're taking issue with

2 threads I've seen you shoving the K+M in peoples faces, claiming it shits on everything.

Any subjective answer, you have stood your ground, and shit on controllers + the poster

My point is, since you also play on the PS4.. why even do that?

Clearly, as a member of the master race, you also use a controller.