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He isn't wrong, I did say they were disappointing and worse than the originals. Then I said they weren't. Then I said they were. Point is, they are great games, but they are stale. They need a shake up.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
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Meeeper282
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolves so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
For starters, make the jump to 3DS. Give me a full blown Pokemon 3D. It's at least eight years too late at this point.Learn to read moronMeeeper282
He isn't wrong, I did say they were disappointing and worse than the originals. Then I said they weren't. Then I said they were. Point is, they are great games, but they are stale. They need a shake up.charizard1605
^I can read fine, thanks. :D
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]He isn't wrong, I did say they were disappointing and worse than the originals. Then I said they weren't. Then I said they were. Point is, they are great games, but they are stale. They need a shake up. ^I can read fine, thanks. :D:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
DarkLink77
Doesn't make you right
But he is right, I did say the games were disappointing. If I changed my mind later, he can't know about :|Doesn't make you right
Meeeper282
He isn't wrong, I did say they were disappointing and worse than the originals. Then I said they weren't. Then I said they were. Point is, they are great games, but they are stale. They need a shake up.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
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Meeeper282
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolved so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
And that formula is stale now. Keep adding sprinkles and frosting to the same cake you've been eating for over almost fifteen years and eventually, you'll get tired of it. No matter what you add, it's still the same basic cake.
And yes, I have Pokemon White and White 2, in case you were wondering. Still fun but definitely stale.
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] He isn't wrong, I did say they were disappointing and worse than the originals. Then I said they weren't. Then I said they were. Point is, they are great games, but they are stale. They need a shake up.charizard1605
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolves so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
For starters, make the jump to 3DS. Give me a full blown Pokemon 3D. It's at least eight years too late at this point.Gameplay wise, i don't see anything else they could do, and a 3d pokemon sounds like a neat idea, but that's a huge risk, and it could potentially hurt the franchise if isn'texecuted right
For starters, make the jump to 3DS. Give me a full blown Pokemon 3D. It's at least eight years too late at this point.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolves so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
Meeeper282
Gameplay wise, i don't see anything else they could do, and a 3d pokemon sounds like a neat idea, but that's a huge risk, and it could potentially hurt the franchise if isn'texecuted right
pokemon stadium and colesseum. it won't hurt it. besides black and white 2 are almost full 3D except for the spritesFor starters, make the jump to 3DS. Give me a full blown Pokemon 3D. It's at least eight years too late at this point.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolves so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
Meeeper282
Gameplay wise, i don't see anything else they could do, and a 3d pokemon sounds like a neat idea, but that's a huge risk, and it could potentially hurt the franchise if isn'texecuted right
Are you saying Game Freak as a developer isn't competent enough to do a Pokemon 3D properly?[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] He isn't wrong, I did say they were disappointing and worse than the originals. Then I said they weren't. Then I said they were. Point is, they are great games, but they are stale. They need a shake up.The_Game21x
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolved so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
And that formula is stale now. Keep adding sprinkles and frosting to the same cake you've been eating for over almost fifteen years and eventually, you'll get tired of it. No matter what you add, it's still the same basic cake.
And yes, I have Pokemon White and White 2, in case you were wondering. Still fun but definitely stale.
Well i don't think the ds could handle anything ambitious, plus you might be right, but could you honestly name another rpg on the ds that's as deep as pokemon? gamefreak did an exellent job for what they are given, plus changing the formula might hurt the franchise.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
:lol: Oh gawd.
Cows already know they've lost this year, that's why they're hyping 2013!
Just wait gaiz! 2013 is gonna be the year of the PS3! :o
Meeeper282
fighting over second place, pathetic :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Tell that to the Nintendo fanboys when the GameCube was fighting for a second place with the Xbox but ended up in.....:lol:
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
What else could they possibly do, the formula was perfected years ago, pokemon evolved so quickly there isn't much room for it anymore
Meeeper282
And that formula is stale now. Keep adding sprinkles and frosting to the same cake you've been eating for over almost fifteen years and eventually, you'll get tired of it. No matter what you add, it's still the same basic cake.
And yes, I have Pokemon White and White 2, in case you were wondering. Still fun but definitely stale.
Well i don't think the ds could handle anything ambitious, plus you might be right, but could you honestly name another rpg on the ds that's as deep as pokemon? gamefreak did an exellent job for what they are given, plus changing the formula might hurt the franchise.
Dragon Quest IX. The World Ends With You. Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor. The DS is my first handheld ever where Pokemon ISN'T my favorite game. Hurt the fanbase? How? Keep the same foundation, evolve the game. For a series that concentrates on the idea of evolution so much, it's funny how little it has evolved itself over the last two decades.[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] For starters, make the jump to 3DS. Give me a full blown Pokemon 3D. It's at least eight years too late at this point.charizard1605
Gameplay wise, i don't see anything else they could do, and a 3d pokemon sounds like a neat idea, but that's a huge risk, and it could potentially hurt the franchise if isn'texecuted right
Are you saying Game Freak as a developer isn't competent enough to do a Pokemon 3D properly?No, they are, i mean if gamefreak decides to do a 3d pokemon, they must keep some elements of the current pokemon games or else it could really hurt the fanbase.
Plus you have to remember that the current pokemon games are really easy to get into, that's why it's so popular and if this were to change, then pokemon might lose it's appeal and accessibility.
plus could the 3ds even handle a fully fledged 3d pokemon game?
Are you saying Game Freak as a developer isn't competent enough to do a Pokemon 3D properly?[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
Gameplay wise, i don't see anything else they could do, and a 3d pokemon sounds like a neat idea, but that's a huge risk, and it could potentially hurt the franchise if isn'texecuted right
Meeeper282
No, they are, i mean if gamefreak decides to do a 3d pokemon, they must keep some elements of the current pokemon games or else it could really hurt the fanbase, plus could the 3ds even handle a fully fledged 3d pokemon game.
Plus you have to remember that the current pokemon games are really easy to get into, that's why it's so popular and if this were to change, tthen pokemon might lose it's appeal and accessibility
3D games can be easy to get into. Look at Super Mario 3D Land, look at any of the GTA games, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed... You just need to make it right.[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
And that formula is stale now. Keep adding sprinkles and frosting to the same cake you've been eating for over almost fifteen years and eventually, you'll get tired of it. No matter what you add, it's still the same basic cake.
And yes, I have Pokemon White and White 2, in case you were wondering. Still fun but definitely stale.
charizard1605
Well i don't think the ds could handle anything ambitious, plus you might be right, but could you honestly name another rpg on the ds that's as deep as pokemon? gamefreak did an exellent job for what they are given, plus changing the formula might hurt the franchise.
Dragon Quest IX. The World Ends With You. Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor. The DS is my first handheld ever where Pokemon ISN'T my favorite game. Hurt the fanbase? How? Keep the same foundation, evolve the game. For a series that concentrates on the idea of evolution so much, it's funny how little it has evolved itself over the last two decades.Sometimes evolution doesn't do a game justice, plus this might turn pokemon into a niche, see this is why call of duty is so huge, it's user friendly and so is pokemon, and a change up to that formula might change that
Looks to be a great end of the year for Kinect, if you'd tell me that at the beginning of the year I would have laughed. Might have to get a Kinect when I get my own place and bigger living area.
[QUOTE="mitu123"]
BPoole96 you forgot Forza Horizon!
BPoole96
Adding that is just insult to injury. I was just saying that Kinect alone has more quality exclusives this year. Add Forza Horizon and it is just cow annihilation
They deserve it after bashing the 360 for all this time.[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Are you saying Game Freak as a developer isn't competent enough to do a Pokemon 3D properly?charizard1605
No, they are, i mean if gamefreak decides to do a 3d pokemon, they must keep some elements of the current pokemon games or else it could really hurt the fanbase, plus could the 3ds even handle a fully fledged 3d pokemon game.
Plus you have to remember that the current pokemon games are really easy to get into, that's why it's so popular and if this were to change, tthen pokemon might lose it's appeal and accessibility
3D games can be easy to get into. Look at Super Mario 3D Land, look at any of the GTA games, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed... You just need to make it right.Super mario 3D land isn't really that deep, and i honestly don't think the 3ds could handle a 3d pokemon game with all it's current features, we could get a 3d pokemon game, but it might be a step backwards.
Not a cow, but I do own a PS3. I am not a big racing fan, so I couldn't care less about Forza. As for the dancing game................:lol: sorry, but dancing games just plain suck. I don't care if it got a 10, I just wouldn't be interested.Linky
A terrific new party mode and other smart additions to the franchise make Dance Central 3 the best way yet to get groovy with your Kinect.
The Good:
- Excellent dance routines can appeal to beginners and experts alike
- New Party Time mode is fantastic fun at get-togethers
- Soundtrack and story draw on decades of dance hits
- Improved Rehearse mode makes it easier to master tough moves.
The Bad:
Um... Nothing?
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So, yeah. How 'bout that Kinect and dem racing games? AAEs for everyone!
...Well, except Cows, obviously.
DarkLink77
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]Not a cow, but I do own a PS3. I am not a big racing fan, so I couldn't care less about Forza. As for the dancing game................:lol: sorry, but dancing games just plain suck. I don't care if it got a 10, I just wouldn't be interested. Cool. None of them interest me either, but hey, metagame.Linky
A terrific new party mode and other smart additions to the franchise make Dance Central 3 the best way yet to get groovy with your Kinect.
The Good:
- Excellent dance routines can appeal to beginners and experts alike
- New Party Time mode is fantastic fun at get-togethers
- Soundtrack and story draw on decades of dance hits
- Improved Rehearse mode makes it easier to master tough moves.
The Bad:
Um... Nothing?
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So, yeah. How 'bout that Kinect and dem racing games? AAEs for everyone!
...Well, except Cows, obviously.
AmazonTreeBoa
3 years, 3 games. Is Dance Central really doing enough every iteration to remain AA every time? I question. senses_fail_06I'd say so.
I enjoy these games and have the previous ones. But to tell you the truth. The first Dance Central didnt deserve anywhere near what it got on here, it was a slim package and it felt rushed out the door in time for the Kinect launch. I think it just got a rep for being the best Kinect gama available around the Kinect launch.
Dance Central 2 was legit good. Im getting this one as well.
Not a cow, but I do own a PS3. I am not a big racing fan, so I couldn't care less about Forza. As for the dancing game................:lol: sorry, but dancing games just plain suck. I don't care if it got a 10, I just wouldn't be interested. AmazonTreeBoaWell, that's just your opinion. I enjoy them. And I am not a Lemming.
Hey, just for the record, I think Black/White 2 is conclusively BETTER than all the other Pokemon games. I also think it's about f*cking time they changed the formula I love B/W2 but its only for the hardcorest of the hardcore fanboys at this point. Switch it up, Game Freak!charizard1605lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.
The most they'll do is ramp up production values and online features when it makes it to the 3ds.
lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.
Shinobishyguy
THANK YOU
lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hey, just for the record, I think Black/White 2 is conclusively BETTER than all the other Pokemon games. I also think it's about f*cking time they changed the formula I love B/W2 but its only for the hardcorest of the hardcore fanboys at this point. Switch it up, Game Freak!Shinobishyguy
The most they'll do is ramp up production values and online features when it makes it to the 3ds.
Then people shouldn't complain when games like this receive low scores.
This is no different than people bashing Call of Duty or Halo for not changing.
lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hey, just for the record, I think Black/White 2 is conclusively BETTER than all the other Pokemon games. I also think it's about f*cking time they changed the formula I love B/W2 but its only for the hardcorest of the hardcore fanboys at this point. Switch it up, Game Freak!The_Game21x
The most they'll do is ramp up production values and online features when it makes it to the 3ds.
Then people shouldn't complain when games like this receive low scores.
This is no different than people bashing Call of Duty or Halo for not changing.
The difference being that Call of Duty receives high scores. Consistency would be nice.lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hey, just for the record, I think Black/White 2 is conclusively BETTER than all the other Pokemon games. I also think it's about f*cking time they changed the formula I love B/W2 but its only for the hardcorest of the hardcore fanboys at this point. Switch it up, Game Freak!The_Game21x
The most they'll do is ramp up production values and online features when it makes it to the 3ds.
Then people shouldn't complain when games like this receive low scores.
This is no different than people bashing Call of Duty or Halo for not changing.
For the most part is isn't receiving low scores, it has a solid 81 on metacriticGS was an outlier on this, just as they were with the first Black and White.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.
The most they'll do is ramp up production values and online features when it makes it to the 3ds.
DarkLink77
Then people shouldn't complain when games like this receive low scores.
This is no different than people bashing Call of Duty or Halo for not changing.
The difference being that Call of Duty receives high scores. Consistency would be nice.Meh. Call of Duty hasn't been the same basic game for 15 years either so I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.
But yeah, I think it should be graded more harshly than it is.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] lets be real here, they aren't going to switch up a multimillion dollar formula for the sake of a tiny, microscopic section of the fanbase.
The most they'll do is ramp up production values and online features when it makes it to the 3ds.
Shinobishyguy
Then people shouldn't complain when games like this receive low scores.
This is no different than people bashing Call of Duty or Halo for not changing.
For the most part is isn't receiving low scores, it has a solid 81 on metacriticGS was an outlier on this, just as they were with the first Black and White.
And people have been at GS's collective throat for that outlier score.
For the most part is isn't receiving low scores, it has a solid 81 on metacritic[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Then people shouldn't complain when games like this receive low scores.
This is no different than people bashing Call of Duty or Halo for not changing.
The_Game21x
GS was an outlier on this, just as they were with the first Black and White.
And people have been at GS's collective throat for that outlier score.
that's because people are realizing that gamespot's opinions of pokemon games aren't worth sh*t.[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] For the most part is isn't receiving low scores, it has a solid 81 on metacritic
GS was an outlier on this, just as they were with the first Black and White.
Shinobishyguy
And people have been at GS's collective throat for that outlier score.
that's because people are realizing that gamespot's opinions of pokemon games aren't worth sh*t.Case in point.
that's because people are realizing that gamespot's opinions of pokemon games aren't worth sh*t.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
And people have been at GS's collective throat for that outlier score.
The_Game21x
Case in point.
another part of it is people mindlessly d*ckriding the score and acting like they're some sort've martyr for journalistic integrity[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]that's because people are realizing that gamespot's opinions of pokemon games aren't worth sh*t.Shinobishyguy
Case in point.
another part of it is people mindlessly d*ckriding the score and acting like they're some sort've martyr for journalistic integrityAgain.
Quite frankly, I'm far more inclined to agree with GameSpot's score than IGN's 9.6.
Kinect: It only does high quality games. :lol:[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]
God... DAMN!
Kinect has had more quality exclusives than PS3 this year
Kinect:
- Dance Central 3 (8.5)
- Fable: Journey (8.0)
- NBA Baller Beats (7.0)
PS3
- Twisted Metal (8.0)
- Starhawk (7.5)
OUCH!
BPoole96
GS is just throwing salt in the Cow's bleeding wounds
Or as Todd would say ..Sh*tting in themanother part of it is people mindlessly d*ckriding the score and acting like they're some sort've martyr for journalistic integrity[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Case in point.
The_Game21x
Again.
Quite frankly, I'm far more inclined to agree with GameSpot's score than IGN's 9.6.
neither of those two are accurate, they're both extremes.One has never been fond of the pokemon franchise and any feature that they have added is downplayed as superfluous fluff, and another is a complete fanatic.
It's a solid 8.5
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] another part of it is people mindlessly d*ckriding the score and acting like they're some sort've martyr for journalistic integrityShinobishyguy
Again.
Quite frankly, I'm far more inclined to agree with GameSpot's score than IGN's 9.6.
neither of those two are accurate, they're both extremes One has never been fond of the pokemon franchise and any feature that is added is downplayed as superfluous fluff, and another is a complete fanatic.It's a solid 8.5
That would imply that the same person is reviewing the game each time...which it isn't.
And I wouldn't even agree with that 8.5 personally, based on the time I've put into the game.
neither of those two are accurate, they're both extremes One has never been fond of the pokemon franchise and any feature that is added is downplayed as superfluous fluff, and another is a complete fanatic.[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Again.
Quite frankly, I'm far more inclined to agree with GameSpot's score than IGN's 9.6.
The_Game21x
It's a solid 8.5
That would imply that the same person is reviewing the game each time...which it isn't.
It doesn't matter if the reviews are consistent with eachother. BW got trashed for not changing the formula despite it being the freshest pokemon game since the original red and blue[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]that's because people are realizing that gamespot's opinions of pokemon games aren't worth sh*t.Shinobishyguy
Case in point.
another part of it is people mindlessly d*ckriding the score and acting like they're some sort've martyr for journalistic integrity Are we reading the same thread?Well Dance Central is the best dancing game of the generation and Xbox has a foothold on racing games this gen... Sucks to be a PS3 only owner if you like those two things lol.
I'm actually considering buying a 360 for the racing stuff despite getting bored of Kinect... Even though Most Wanted probably be better on PS3 and obviously on PC due to Criterion's track record, Forza Horizon is really cool and I miss PGR4.
Criterion has a history of it's games running better on PS3? :o Props to them for putting in the effort.Well Dance Central is the best dancing game of the generation and Xbox has a foothold on racing games this gen... Sucks to be a PS3 only owner if you like those two things lol.
I'm actually considering buying a 360 for the racing stuff despite getting bored of Kinect... Even though Most Wanted probably be better on PS3 and obviously on PC due to Criterion's track record, Forza Horizon is really cool and I miss PGR4.
sanim02
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] neither of those two are accurate, they're both extremes One has never been fond of the pokemon franchise and any feature that is added is downplayed as superfluous fluff, and another is a complete fanatic.
It's a solid 8.5
Shinobishyguy
That would imply that the same person is reviewing the game each time...which it isn't.
And I wouldn't even agree with that 8.5 personally, based on the time I've put into the game.
so l'm guessing you're not fond of it either?I'm calling it like I see it. Sure, the Pokemon formula is one that works but that doesn't stop it from being incredibly stale at this point and I think GameSpot graded it accordingly.
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