The deluded notion,that Sony needs to meet MS at $299.

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#51 Fedor  Online
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@tormentos said:
@sealionact said:

@Zero_epyon: I didn't compare the series s to the ps5 D.... I compared the ps5D to the ps5.

Nevertheless, a 450 dollar console that can't play someone's physical ps4 discs is a steep price in these times, and I shouldn't blame someone who looks at a series s including hundreds of games via gamepass, xcloud and ea play for 25 bucks a month as an alternative.

Not too many had the series S down at 299, and although I'll go for a xsx, I can definitely see the appeal for someone who just wants to play games and has no idea what 1440p means.

Where did you pull that the PS5 digital will be $450?

Is all i want to know lemming.

PS has PS Now stop talking as if gamepass was this magical shit no one has,is a stinking rip off of PSN Now and PSN+.

@clone01 said:

who said this, bandodger?

Read my reply to to fedor,and stop playing blind as always to the bullshit done on your side of the fence.

Any one making an argument about MS undercutting sony or asking for sony to have a $299 price is simple delusional.

@fedor said:

So no "surge" then. thanks for admittance.

Again spin and damage control.

@fedor said:

Who has said they need to match the Series S price? Name them.

This is what you asked and i reply it says NOTHING about surge nice try.😂😂😂

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

LMAO!!! So your spin and damage control is just claiming other people are doing what you're doing... Come on Mr. Bookmark threads. Stop trying to wuss out of what you said, "be a man" and list the surge.

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#52 Pedro
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@Pedro: You opting for a 50 dollar cheaper version of a ps5 that can't do uhd, second hand games, or BC with discs is what I call dumb....but there we go.

I don't use UHD, I don't buy second hand games and most of my games are digital so BC is automatic. Not sure what is the issue.

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#53  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@kingtito said:
@phlop_spencer said:

I actually am objective. 110 million PS4's sold with the highest rated exclusives vs. 40million xbones with a majority of games being 6/10.

go home and sleep it off kingTito.

LOLOLOLOLOL did you just say you're objective? LOLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLOL good lord that was funny.

Finally able to catch my breath. So, the number of sales mean what in this conversation? Deflecting much, moving the goalpost.

Go home and sleep it off says the clown that just said he's objective even though all of his post would show otherwise. HAhahaha dude you're such a clown....more so than when you posted as quack

maybe go look up what objectivity means.

Fact: xbox sold less consoles

Fact: xbox games worse rated and sold less

Fact: xbox still has no games that compete with playstation library

Fact: Majority of console gamers choose playstation because they can rely on Sony delivering the goods.

Fact: Lemmings like you are so delusional that you think things will change next gen.

This is called being objective you butthurt king lemming. Take your L for this gen and wait another 8 years so you can get another one.

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#54 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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PS5 can't be $299, but it also can't be $599.

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#55 kingtito
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@phlop_spencer said:

maybe go look up what objectivity means.

Fact: xbox sold less consoles

Fact: xbox games worse rated and sold less

Fact: xbox still has no games that compete with playstation library

Fact: Majority of console gamers choose playstation because they can rely on Sony delivering the goods.

Fact: Lemmings like you are so delusional you think anything will change next gen.

This is called being objective you butthurt king lemming. Take your L for this gen and wait another 8 years so you can get another one.

oh I have and there is no way in hell you're objective when it comes to anything MS. Nice try though quack

Fact: None of that nonsense has anything to do with what THIS conversation. Try keeping up clown instead of moving goalpost and deflecting.

Wrong quack, that's just spewing irrelevant nonsense in conversation that has nothing to do with sales or opinions presented as game scores. Just stop it quack, you're not objective, you know it, I know and everyone else knows it. You're a rabid, blind sick cow incapable of being what you just claimed. YOUR posting history proves it

Take the L? LOLOLOLO BWHAHAHAH I have no stake in MS, PS or Nin AND I've owned all 3 consoles so explain how I'd take an L in this situation? On 2nd thought you're probably incapable of giving a rational objective explanation.

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#56 lamprey263
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This sounds like a strawman argument. I haven't seen anybody out there thinking Sony should match MS on the Series S price.

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#57 PC_Rocks
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@tormentos said:
@pc_rocks said:

Just when you think tormentos won't be getting any more sleepless nights...He still is, this time due to price not power. ROFLMAO!

Even more hilarious he's DC'ing for the higher priced console because of Sony while get his panties in a twist over GPU prices.

You know i can't have a happy day without at least 20 meltdowns.

Fixed!

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#58 hardwenzen
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What are you on about? Nobody said that they need to meet them at $300 when their digital system is more than two times stronger and has more storage space. The S is for plebs that play fortnite and yearly cod. PS5 digital is for normal human beings.

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#59 Pedro
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@pc_rocks said:
@tormentos said:
@pc_rocks said:

Just when you think tormentos won't be getting any more sleepless nights...He still is, this time due to price not power. ROFLMAO!

Even more hilarious he's DC'ing for the higher priced console because of Sony while get his panties in a twist over GPU prices.

You know i can't have a happy day without at least 20 meltdowns.

Fixed!

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#60 sealionact
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@Pedro: No issue for you. I'd gladly pay 50 more for a disc drive. Point is IF Sony released at a supposed 449 and 499, I think most people will pay 50 more for a disc drive.

There's no issue there.

Where I think there is an issue is if Sony do launch at 449 + 499 (I don't think they will - It was a protoss prediction). I think that will cost them customers.

That's what I think.....and that's what you think is dumb?

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#61  Edited By daredevils2k
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What this gen has taught is one thing, people buy consoles for there exclusives. which is why sony sold 100+ Million console vs MS having the most powerful console only selling 40million

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#62 sealionact
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@tormentos said:
@sts106mat said:

REPORTING LIVE FOR SONY TV - Its meeee ELLTOORMO

AA BATTERIES NEWSFLASH

RROD

FIASCO

Damn i really miss Blackace.🤣

@rrjim1 said:

Most people will purchase the cheapest product.

That depends for example if the gap in price is small most people will actually go for the premium,example most 360 owners were premium not core but the gap there was $100,the gap now on series X is $200 so its much bigger,but the PS5 one may be just $100 or even less so most people will probably go for the premium.

In the 360 case the specs were the same,what change was the wired controller and no HDD.

@sealionact said:

Cows are absolutely shaken to the core with the series s reveal.

If Sony sell the ps5 D at 450, that's a 150 buck difference to the series S....or 50% more expensive. There hasn't been that much of a gap since PS3's disastrous launch.

Then they'd sell the ps5 proper at 499? Again...wouldn't most people just pay 50 bucks more and be able to use their PS4 discs, Blu-ray's etc?

Of course, Sony could put this all to bed instantly by releasing prices .....and yet nothing. Makes me wonder if the series S has pulled the rug out from their feet?

You know you don't have an argument when not even Pedro is backing you up.😂

What make you think the PS5 will be $500 what exactly?Other than blind fanboysm and wishful thinking,have sony confirm the price? The only rumor we have put the manufacturing price at $450 which mean even the DG version is even cheaper to make,and that i know off all PS consoles have loss money on launch.

Considering PSN is printing money for sony i don't see how they can't eat a $50 loss without problem.

"So if sony goes for $450 it may do so to loss as little as possible or break even,if they go $500 is to make a profit which is totally unheard of on the PS history,and if they go $400 yeah they may be willing to eat a small loss,remember this loses are not for ever they are first year or so."

You were freaking speculating you absolute clown.

Christ, you are absolute proof that Man derives from the great apes.

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Severe insecurity because a few nobodies in a niche forum posted some garbage that has no effect on the industry

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@kingtito: nice meltdown essay. I know the facts hurt you, and don’t pretend you’re some unbiased gamer LOL. It’s ok to have wasted your time cheerleading for the loser for so long, but you have the opportunity to turn it around.

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#65 Nonstop-Madness
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I think it goes without saying.

What they *need* to do is match or, come in at a lower price vs the XSX.

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@phlop_spencer said:

@kingtito: nice meltdown essay. I know the facts hurt you, and don’t pretend you’re some unbiased gamer LOL. It’s ok to have wasted your time cheerleading for the loser for so long, but you have the opportunity to turn it around.

LOL you think THAT was an essay? LOL you're on a forum that you HAVE to read. You're so sad and pathetic quack

Still deflecting from the original subject. Quack I'm disappointed in you.

Please tell me how you're objective again? "I don't love my console, I just hate yours" ....words you live by

Quack has returned to being one of the biggest clowns of SWs

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#67 Sagemode87
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@tormentos: Spot on as always

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#68 Sagemode87
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@bluestars: rebuttal his points instead of throwing out BS as usual...

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#69 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: you are so tilted over the next generation Xbox series consoles it’s hilarious.

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#70 Sagemode87
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@BlackShirt20: It's not even worth debating you Lems anymore. All you do is post "lulz, meltdown" when someone is posting real inquiries. There's plenty of Lems saying Sony can't match the price, insinuating they have to. Now you guys want to play victim. Take a seat already.

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#71 BlackShirt20
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@phlop_spencer: Fail

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@hardwenzen: that's an expensive way to pay Cod.

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#73 Phlop_Spencer
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@BlackShirt20 said:

@phlop_spencer: Fail

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#74 Phlop_Spencer
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@kingtito said:
@phlop_spencer said:

@kingtito: nice meltdown essay. I know the facts hurt you, and don’t pretend you’re some unbiased gamer LOL. It’s ok to have wasted your time cheerleading for the loser for so long, but you have the opportunity to turn it around.

LOL you think THAT was an essay? LOL you're on a forum that you HAVE to read. You're so sad and pathetic quack

Still deflecting from the original subject. Quack I'm disappointed in you.

Please tell me how you're objective again? "I don't love my console, I just hate yours" ....words you live by

Quack has returned to being one of the biggest clowns of SWs

blah blah blah, spin and cry buddy. Imagine putting as much time into real life as you do defending the pos that is xbox. Like I've said before, I have played all the best that xbone has to offer on my pc. Playstation library still mops the floor with it lololol. Keep crying.

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#75 kingtito
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@phlop_spencer said:

blah blah blah, spin and cry buddy. Imagine putting as much time into real life as you do defending the pos that is xbox. Like I've said before, I have played all the best that xbone has to offer on my pc. Playstation library still mops the floor with it lololol. Keep crying.

Imagine creating an alt account with the sole reason of trolling a gaming forum.....sad......pathetic....hilarious.....quack

Oh that's right, all cows have an gaming PC. Sure buddy I believe you.

Hey are you able to sleep? Gaming forum is series business

"i don't love my console, I just hate yours"

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#76 ermacness
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Well I'm not going to say "need to", but if they somehow did, that will definitely put the XsS in "check" at launch.

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@fedor said:

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

LMAO!!! So your spin and damage control is just claiming other people are doing what you're doing... Come on Mr. Bookmark threads. Stop trying to wuss out of what you said, "be a man" and list the surge.

You keep spinning i wasn't talking about the part i say on the original post,i was talking about YOUR CLEAR AND CUT QUESTION.

So yeah i was right.

@thatdbfan said:

This is a bait thread, but you're not wrong. I don't see how Sony can undercut them at this point without selling at a loss. Being so close to release, there is no way they could undercut the Series X/S prices without pushing the release date back. And Sony won't be willing to give MS that big of a head start.

@BlackShirt20 said:

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: of course you wouldn’t. Because you’re delusional.

A console running at 1440p 60/120fps that has true next gen performance and features at $300 is gonna be hard to pass up for the average gamer. Even most Sony fans will dip into the Xbox now.

Most gamers don’t have 4k TV’s and a console that is cheap that will display at 1080 crisp and clear with the ability to upscale to 4k until they upgrade is a hard strategy to beat.

Unless PS5 Digital edition is $300/$350 Xbox has a potential leveling system this gen and Game Pass is too appealing to pass up. Especially with more developers joining for example EA joining Game Pass.

@tdkmillsy said:

In answer to the first question

This is system wars so obviously this should be posted.

But on a side note the price would help me make my mind up on what I buy in what order.

Would like the PS5 digital to be £249 and available in my country as it would be a no brainier cos I can play the games I not played on PS4. But we dont know price or even if it will come out in November in the UK

But but but but no one want the PS5 to match the series S price.

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#78  Edited By Fedor  Online
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@tormentos said:
@fedor said:

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

LMAO!!! So your spin and damage control is just claiming other people are doing what you're doing... Come on Mr. Bookmark threads. Stop trying to wuss out of what you said, "be a man" and list the surge.

You keep spinning i wasn't talking about the part i say on the original post,i was talking about YOUR CLEAR AND CUT QUESTION.

So yeah i was right.

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

Still waiting for this "surge" of people. Did you mean 1 person by chance?

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#79 tdkmillsy
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@tormentos: don't be a plonker

saying you want something and claiming it will be something are totally different.

I want it to be £249, in fact I want it to be as low as possible and estimate that 249 ish would make me buy it without thinking. Do I think it will be that low, not a cat in hells chance. In fact in previous threads I said its most likely to be around $449 so about £399.

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#80 lundy86_4
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Well this thread was a fun ride lol.

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@Random_Matt said:

Reason I don't buy Xbox, their fan base talks so much bullshit.

Um do you see who the OP is and what faction he's from.

If you didn't buy a gaming device because of what its fans say, well then you just ousted yourself for not having any gaming device because all sides talk shit.

We just found another fakeboy lol.

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#82  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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I rate the OP's meltdown 9.2/10.28

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#83 kingtito
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@i_p_daily said:
@Random_Matt said:

Reason I don't buy Xbox, their fan base talks so much bullshit.

Um do you see who the OP is and what faction he's from.

If you didn't buy a gaming device because of what its fans say, well then you just ousted yourself for not having any gaming device because all sides talk shit.

We just found another fakeboy lol.

LOL right. "I don't buy "product X" because fanboys talk a lot of shit" so then there wouldn't be much he would buy. That was a good laugh

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#85 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: Why do you avoid reality?

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#86 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: Why do you avoid reality?

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#87 BlackShirt20
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@tormentos: Why do you avoid reality?

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#88 clone01
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@tormentos said:
@clone01 said:

who said this, bandodger?

Read my reply to to fedor,and stop playing blind as always to the bullshit done on your side of the fence.

Any one making an argument about MS undercutting sony or asking for sony to have a $299 price is simple delusional.

Hey, Eltormo bandodger, again, how about some citation?

oh, and bananas cartridge doggie computer pathetic poorass basndodger eltormo, SOOOONNNNYYYYYYYY!

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#89  Edited By clone01
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@fedor said:

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

LMAO!!! So your spin and damage control is just claiming other people are doing what you're doing... Come on Mr. Bookmark threads. Stop trying to wuss out of what you said, "be a man" and list the surge.

He won't. Eltormo is a sad little bandodger who can't buy a system.

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#90 mrbojangles25
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I wouldn't say it is deluded, and I hate going by generational demographics, but the age group that buys consoles is generally willing to shell out more for things that are quality.

Price and money is always a concern, but I think people are more willing to favor quality for more cost than simply basic quantity or a cheap price; they might even view something inexpensive (relative to a similar product priced higher) as suspiciously cheap, too good to be true.

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#91 Sevenizz
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Am I reading this right? Cows are making excuses for paying more for their console?

Sony, save your money and fire your marketing department. Hire hypnotists instead because your base is so easily susceptible to brainwashing.

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#92 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@kingtito said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Random_Matt said:

Reason I don't buy Xbox, their fan base talks so much bullshit.

Um do you see who the OP is and what faction he's from.

If you didn't buy a gaming device because of what its fans say, well then you just ousted yourself for not having any gaming device because all sides talk shit.

We just found another fakeboy lol.

LOL right. "I don't buy "product X" because fanboys talk a lot of shit" so then there wouldn't be much he would buy. That was a good laugh

Yeah it is funny when people own themselves LOL.

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#93 BigBadBully
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Think ps5 will be more expensive with Digital version coming around Xseries X price. If Sony is taking invites to pre-order they must have very limited stock and selling at loss or even trying to come close to Series S would be disastrous. People are going to snatch it up and sell second hand, and going to happen regardless.

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#94 tormentos
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@fedor said:

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

Still waiting for this "surge" of people. Did you mean 1 person by chance?

Well your back to crossing out my argument as if that was some kind of counter argument,its pretty obvious by this point that you loss the argument.🤣🤣🤣

You even ignore the multiple lemming quote i posted.

@tdkmillsy said:

@tormentos: don't be a plonker

saying you want something and claiming it will be something are totally different.

I want it to be £249, in fact I want it to be as low as possible and estimate that 249 ish would make me buy it without thinking. Do I think it will be that low, not a cat in hells chance. In fact in previous threads I said its most likely to be around $449 so about £399.

Should i point the obvious again? At how you start making argument stealthy?

@i_p_daily said:

I rate the OP's meltdown 9.2/10.28

So what are you crying about now?😂

@kuu2 said:

Going to be funny watching casuals buy the SeS because the all digital PS5 is way more expensive.

No the series X is wayyyyy more expensive which is why most lemmings will play inferior versions,while bragging about owning a series X.😂

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#95 tormentos
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@clone01 said:

Hey, Eltormo bandodger, again, how about some citation?

oh, and bananas cartridge doggie computer pathetic poorass basndodger eltormo, SOOOONNNNYYYYYYYY!

You poor sad fella are you still holding that grudge? Man let that shit go is not healthy.🤣

@clone01 said:

He won't. Eltormo is a sad little bandodger who can't buy a system.

Le group therapy,so now you are looking for a shoulder to cry on pathetic,a grown man who can't admit he was wrong how sad.

@Sevenizz said:

Am I reading this right? Cows are making excuses for paying more for their console?

Sony, save your money and fire your marketing department. Hire hypnotists instead because your base is so easily susceptible to brainwashing.

See Fedor on this very thread,we don't need to make excuses for the higher PS5 price it has a 10TF GPU vs the shitty 4TF one on series S less memory,much slower bandwidth and slower and smaller SSD,the 2 machines are not even in the same ball park,and is lol worthy because here you are a Pro xbox fanboy who over sell a 21% GPU gap,but that now pretend 150% gap is nothing.😂

And you talk about been brainwash.

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@tormentos said:
@fedor said:

"I have see what basically is a surge in the number of people who actually believe that sony needs to match the xbox Series S price,which quite frankly is a totally moronic notion."

Still waiting for this "surge" of people. Did you mean 1 person by chance?

Well your back to crossing out my argument as if that was some kind of counter argument,its pretty obvious by this point that you loss the argument.🤣🤣🤣

You even ignore the multiple lemming quote i posted.

There's nothing to counter. You can't produce this surge of people you've seen so your meltdown thread is a failure.

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OP telling people to "let things go its not healthy" and is known for living in the past, has EVERY MS indiscretion, booked marked, 1000+ SW threads, over a 1000+ quotes saved from users on here.

Pot meet kettle in the extreme LOL.

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#98 tormentos
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@fedor said:

There's nothing to counter. You can't produce this surge of people you've seen so your meltdown thread is a failure.

Let see i went from 1 to several theres your surge.

Now you asked for NAMES and i quote them be a man and admit you loss is not that hard.

@i_p_daily said:

OP telling people to "let things go its not healthy" and is known for living in the past, has EVERY MS indiscretion, booked marked, 1000+ SW threads, over a 1000+ quotes saved from users on here.

Pot meet kettle in the extreme LOL.

NO my bookmark threads are for the usual flip flopping you pathetic fanboys do all the time.

You know kind of like attacking the PS5 power and ray tracing ability but now defending the extremely shitty series S with 4 pathetic TF,if the PS5 would have shitty Ray tracing what would the series S have? See things like that.

You people are suckers.

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#99  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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Every day I am reminded why Xbox has been obliterated considering its nutjob defence force fanbase

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#100 LouiXIII
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@tormentos: You're trying to reason with idiots. Think about it. The guys that complained about a tech demo being 1440p is praising a console that's max resolution is 1440p. Phil could shit a turd and spray some whipped cream on it and these Lems will swear up and down that it's a Twinkie.