The Flood: The worst idea ever in a game?

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#51 TheGamerUser
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It was a hard stretch, but it should have stopped @ halo 1.
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#52 Shenmue_Jehuty
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I agree
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#53 JiveT
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The Hammer Brothers are actually the worst idea ever in a game.

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#54 Sneezedoof
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the flood are pretty boring to fight, i'd rather just fight covenant, because they're smarter and have more variety.

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#55 GunSmith1_basic
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I think that the idea of the flood is pretty awesome, but bungie just executed it wrong.

The flood is great because it is a line in the sand. They are evil not because of psychology or circumstance, they just ARE evil. Fiction has used far off sci fi like this before, like with the oxygen destroyer in Gojira. Master chief had to prove that he was not only just an efficient killer, but that his actions were in direct opposition to the soulless zombies that make up every part of their clan.

but then they hop around like magic and dont drop ammo

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#56 lettuceman44
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Agree. Sometimes the flood is what keeps me from playing Halo at all. They are just so annoying, I want to fight the covenent, some some flood.
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#57 bluezy
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They bug me very much in the Halo games. I can't stand them. When replaying the games, i intentionally skip levels with them in it.
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#58 t3hTwinky
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I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in the universe that didn't have a problem with the Library in CE.

Also, the whole you fighting the covenant while simultaneously fighting the flood was the best part, and thinking about it, it would have been much cooler if the game had more of that instead of *just* the flood.

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#59 Cpt_Meh
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Great story aspect, and great idea, but the levels that feature them in ANY Halo game are repetitive and annoying. I would rather fight the Covenant, thanks.
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#60 Spartan8907
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Personally, I found it too much like the headcarbs from Half-Life. I mean really. Little tick-like things that grab onto heads and mutate the victims into zombie-like forms...with claw things.
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#61 Hoffgod
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Hate them so much. Their appearance was the turning point for my opinion in Halo CE. I was kinda enjoying it and was anticipating this brand new threat that Admiral Keyes accidentally unleashed... and then I find out its the Headcrabs from Half-Life, only retarded. Then came the Library and me giving the one finger salute to Halo CE. Seriously, Bungie, what were you thinking?
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#62 ArisShadows
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Not bad but a generic undead type.

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#63 SpinoRaptor
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

They'd be a great enemy if bungie could come up with some way to have you fight them which isn't walking through a series of small corridors which all look identical while cutting through near never-ending swathes of them.

Like someone else said, the levels on Halo 1 where you'd be in the middle of a three-way Marines, Covenant and Flood battle where fantastic; but bungie seem to prefer having at least one horrible flood gauntlet level per game. They even acknowledge that they suck too, which is why "Cortana" in Halo 3 is such a confusing level; in every podcast they talk about how much they hated the Library and the Flood Levels in halo 2, then they make a level like cortana which is exactly the same?

Two weeks after the game's launch they even said "oh yeah totally cortana=fail" in the podcast. What gives?

Danm_999

Yeah, Cortana was just awful. It was actually easier to just run wildly through the level than slowly fight and plan like you would when fighting the Covenant.

And is it just me, or was it ridiculously easy to detonate High Charity? How much harder was the PoA in Halo 1.

I guess Bungie didn't learn from that mistake. Everyone hated the level Library, and then they throw the level cortana, which was worse.

And yeah I found it a bit strange how easy it was to blow up high charity. You shoot a couple of reactor cores the size of a fridge and the whole thing explodes:shock:

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#64 Mutatedbloodelf
Member since 2007 • 853 Posts
Flood are annoyning and boring, but I prefer them over Drones.
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#65 DrinkDuff
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They are terrible versions of headcrabs.

Headcrabs rock.

Meu2k7
Normal headscrabs are actually worse than the flood, except for the poisonous headcrab things that leap at you. Those were badass.
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#66 pageiszepplin
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[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

I didn't like the flood but theyre a good challenge.

They're annoying, but I can't believe people are complaining, games are ment to be a challenge aren't they ? :roll:

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Challenge doesn't necessarily equal fun.

True the level Charlie Don't Surf from COD4 on veteran is an excellent example of that.

But about the flood, they are terrible because they give you no satasfaction in killing them. The small ones, wait for it...pop, so in essence your popping balloons, and the big ones just fall, like they trip or something. Then the small ones revive the big ones, so you get to see the same luke-warm death again. then the carriers that explode...those are just plain annoying

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#67 SpinoRaptor
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

They are terrible versions of headcrabs.

Headcrabs rock.

DrinkDuff

Normal headscrabs are actually worse than the flood, except for the poisonous headcrab things that leap at you. Those were badass.

Yeah I heard onceon Developer Commentery from Valve that as soon as playtesters heard the sound of a poisonous headcrab, they would ignore all other threats and try to kill it.

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#68 htekemerald
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The flood only suck when their placed in crappy levels like the Library, there pretty good everywhere else.

And to all those saying their a ripofff of head crabs obviously hasnt spent time to actualy playing both games otherwise they would see they are very unalike in almost everyway.

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#69 Rage010101
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flood = horrible HL ripoff
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#70 Rage010101
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The flood only suck when their placed in crappy levels like the Library, there pretty good everywhere else.

And to all those saying their a ripofff of head crabs obviously hasnt spent time to actualy playing both games otherwise they would see they are very unalike in almost everyway.

htekemerald

I have every halo 1-3. I have every HL game. I played them all to death. I still say Flood = horrendous HL ripoff

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#71 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51611 Posts

It's like Bungie intentionally threw a monkey wrench into their own games.

The Flood are the most annoying, boring and all around least fun enemies ever in an FPS.

HotStuff_2169

Well, I've only played the first and some of second Halo, but in the first Halo, the Flood was the second funnest part of the game besides the last level in the driving sequence.

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#72 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

They are terrible versions of headcrabs.

Headcrabs rock.

SpinoRaptor

Normal headscrabs are actually worse than the flood, except for the poisonous headcrab things that leap at you. Those were badass.

Yeah I heard onceon Developer Commentery from Valve that as soon as playtesters heard the sound of a poisonous headcrab, they would ignore all other threats and try to kill it.

ya whenever i heard 1, i usually dropped everything else and made it my 1st priority. hell i would shoot randomly with my strongest weapons sometimes just to irradicate it. plus they look creep too! all black. i remember the first time i saw one my first reaction was

"lmao puny little enemy i will crush you now!":lol:

then it leaps rapidly and hits me once and my next reaction was "omg im getting owned i need health asap! someonez helpz mez! get it away! nooooooooooo" :o

then after a normal head crab kills me with 1 hit and my reaction is:cry:

hence, why i sometimes use a rocket to kill what SEEMS like a weak enemy :lol:

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#73 zeus_gb
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The flood are an interesting race but the flood levels can be annoying.
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#74 St_muscat
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Very true, I don't really understand it. I cringe every time I know I'm going to fight the Flood. It's like they didn't playtest their own games to see if they were fun or not.MyopicCanadian
I do that as well, they just s*** so much it's not funny, but hey I guess people must like them considering Halo has sold so well.
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#75 akif22
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very true

they kindof ruined the latter parts of halo 3 IMO .. or it made it less fun than if we were fighting brutes till the end

i understand that they are part of the story, but i would have preferred it if bungie dedicated a single level to them, where you wipe them out, and then focus on the convenant in the last levels of the game

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#76 jg4xchamp
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what the flood are mad cool in Halo 1 and 3, in 2 not so much but 1 and 3 were awesome.

the worst idea in videogames was the design of superman 64.
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#77 Always-Honest
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i thought it was pretty entertaining.. in thought the last level with the driving was the alltime anti climax in a game. it was the most uninspired let down in a game ever.. imo.
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#78 Minglis
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how can anybody seriously ask the question "why did they put the flood in halo?". have you not paid attention to anything that happened in those games? without the flood there are no halo's.

anyway i also did find them quite **** boring, i mean they could have made a race like this one of the coolest and most intimidating enemies by far but they just seem like boring drones who happen to take alot of damage before they are killed. Maybe they were okay but the only thing that made halo pretty fun to me was the battles with the covenant, they really had great AI and it made it a blast to battle them at times. the Flood just seemed boring in comparison and stopped you from being able to fight the convenant which was far more entertaining.

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#79 TheSystemLord1
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Am I the only one here who wants to see all of the incredible gaming ideas that those who say the Flood are stupid have going on in their heads? Seriously, if you can do it better than a AAA Trilogy go right ahead, it will only make the industry better. Then we can sit on these forums and pick every idea you have apart and call you stupid.
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#80 HotStuff_2169
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I don't have to be a video game designer to criticize a game.

I don't have to be an actor to criticize a movie.

I don't have to be a musician to criticize music.

Your argument holds no water.

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#81 Vfanek
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My God I hated them, aye. The Flood are obviously there, huge connection to the storyline. But why are they drones who take a lot of damage? Why would that be fun? What?
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#82 crunchUK
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i think they're really cool. they give an apocalyptic atmosphere to the level, especially on floodgate on halo 3. And from a story point of view they're awesome. combat-wise they're simply not as menacing as they sound, as their strength lies in swarming you with their infinite numbers. it's just another way the game plays.
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#83 chrisoff_1
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i happen to like the change of tactics and pace the flood brings to the halo series, they swap out great ai for sheer numbers i find the flood sections of halo to often be the most tense sections, i can understand why people do find them somewhat annoying though.........i finished the much moaned about cortana level last night and the flood didnt bother me one bit it was the most tactical level of the whole game infact........halo 3 SP campaign rocked btw screw the haters sideways it definately is a 9.5 sorta game
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#84 Homesrfan
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The flood level at the end of Halo 3. OMG I wanted to not play the game anymore. The beginning of the game impressed and suprised me so much, and then the flood almost totally ruined it for me.
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#85 DuDisNow
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The Flood are cool, stop hating them if you can't beat them.
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#86 kittykatz5k
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Who's dumb idea was it to make the library scene in halo 1? That walk through wave after wave of repetitive flood drove me mad.
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#87 jbisco25
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the flood are one of the worst but not the worst idea ever.

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#88 KingStoph
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I Enjoyed the Flood in Halo 3. just run about meleeing everything and then the odd grenaid/bruteshot thing
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#89 leonjuretic
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agreed... they are the worst thing in halo games if it wasnt for them halo could have a great sp campaign
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#90 1vgfan
Member since 2004 • 1338 Posts
The Flood- a cheat Headcrap ripoff...that isn't as fun as the headcraps either.
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#91 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The flood surprised the crap outta me in the first halo they were really annoying in halo 2 and on halo 3 they cut back on them so I was happy.

The flood are OK characters I just dont like that they dont explain them in the games or book.

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#92 nintendo_fan675
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Headcrabs in disguise, there also more annoying.