The gamepad advantage over the mouse and keyboard combo in FPS games

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="swontario"] What is with these replies of "can you play on the couch and can you play while laying on your back"? Is that seriously an advantage?

Mystic-G

You dont watch TV while laying on your back?

It has nothing to do with FPS games. Its a matter of being able to play while on your back. You cant do that with a KB/M.

I know Im not crazy. Im not the only one who games while lying down. There are times when I want to FPS on my PC. There are times when I want to be relaxed on my back and gaming.

KB/M and game pads have their pros and cons.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Yeah... no.

There is no advantage the gamepad has over the mouse and keyboard. Even the analogue stick is negligible compared to the many advantages of the keyboard and mouse.

erglesmergle

Why not? There are lots of pros and cons to each.

Can you play on the couch comfortably with a M/KB? Can you play a game while lying on your back? Can you choose how slow or fast you want your character to walk and not be limited to toggling walk/run with shift? Can you get the precision you need for racing games? How about fighting games? How about vibration?

How bout you stick to the original argument of the topic, which is in regards to FPS? Which is about shooting virtual people in the face?

KB/M combo is unquestionably superior in that. Period :)

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]The only thing that the controller has (That's not exactly an advantage, more like an extra) is the vibrations.tagyhag

How clever!

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

You dont watch TV while laying on your back?

erglesmergle

It has nothing to do with FPS games. Its a matter of being able to play while on your back. You cant do that with a KB/M.

I know Im not crazy. Im not the only one who games while lying down. There are times when I want to FPS on my PC. There are times when I want to be relaxed on my back and gaming.

KB/M and game pads have their pros and cons.

Really now?

Hmmm...

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

You dont watch TV while laying on your back?

It has nothing to do with FPS games. Its a matter of being able to play while on your back. You cant do that with a KB/M.

I know Im not crazy. Im not the only one who games while lying down. There are times when I want to FPS on my PC. There are times when I want to be relaxed on my back and gaming.

KB/M and game pads have their pros and cons.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

You dont watch TV while laying on your back?

erglesmergle

It has nothing to do with FPS games. Its a matter of being able to play while on your back. You cant do that with a KB/M.

I know Im not crazy. Im not the only one who games while lying down. There are times when I want to FPS on my PC. There are times when I want to be relaxed on my back and gaming.

KB/M and game pads have their pros and cons.

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] How does any of that give an advantage in FPS games?Mystic-G

It has nothing to do with FPS games. Its a matter of being able to play while on your back. You cant do that with a KB/M.

I know Im not crazy. Im not the only one who games while lying down. There are times when I want to FPS on my PC. There are times when I want to be relaxed on my back and gaming.

KB/M and game pads have their pros and cons.

I feel the exact same way you do. Thats why I play FPS games sitting up. But others games like just driving around in GTA or playing something like LBP is fine lying down. I dont believe that you never lie down, head rested on a pillow or something and game.

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Yeah... no.

There is no advantage the gamepad has over the mouse and keyboard. Even the analogue stick is negligible compared to the many advantages of the keyboard and mouse.

mirgamer

Why not? There are lots of pros and cons to each.

Can you play on the couch comfortably with a M/KB? Can you play a game while lying on your back? Can you choose how slow or fast you want your character to walk and not be limited to toggling walk/run with shift? Can you get the precision you need for racing games? How about fighting games? How about vibration?

How bout you stick to the original argument of the topic, which is in regards to FPS? Which is about shooting virtual people in the face?

KB/M combo is unquestionably superior in that. Period :)

I think I missed the FPS part of the title. Or forgot about it when responding to the guys comment. Im not going to argue against the fact that KB/M is much better than a gamepad for FPS because its the truth. I might have gotten this thread mixed up with the other KB/M vs controller thread.

This thread fails because the TC has likely never played PC games with or without a M&KB. If he had he would have taken into consideration that controllers are also available for PC, theres more variety of 3rd party controllers than all 3 consoles combined and PC gamers can also use any console controller including a Wii, 360, PS3 or even a Super Nintendo controller if they want to.

If the TC had taken all this into consideration he would realise that even though PC gamers have such a huge variety of control methods, (much, MUCH more than consoles) they still choose the mouse and keyboard over ALL others. In other words, if controllers were better than M&KB then PC gamers would use controllers.

[QUOTE="mirgamer"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

Why not? There are lots of pros and cons to each.

Can you play on the couch comfortably with a M/KB? Can you play a game while lying on your back? Can you choose how slow or fast you want your character to walk and not be limited to toggling walk/run with shift? Can you get the precision you need for racing games? How about fighting games? How about vibration?

erglesmergle

How bout you stick to the original argument of the topic, which is in regards to FPS? Which is about shooting virtual people in the face?

KB/M combo is unquestionably superior in that. Period :)

I think I missed the FPS part of the title. Or forgot about it when responding to the guys comment. Im not going to argue against the fact that KB/M is much better than a gamepad for FPS because its the truth. I might have gotten this thread mixed up with the other KB/M vs controller thread.

Why not? There are lots of pros and cons to each.

(1) Can you play on the couch comfortably with a M/KB? (2) Can you play a game while lying on your back? (3) Can you choose how slow or fast you want your character to walk and not be limited to toggling walk/run with shift? (4) Can you get the precision you need for racing games? (5) How about fighting games? (6) How about vibration?

erglesmergle

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Yeah... no.

There is no advantage the gamepad has over the mouse and keyboard. Even the analogue stick is negligible compared to the many advantages of the keyboard and mouse.

mirgamer

Why not? There are lots of pros and cons to each.

Can you play on the couch comfortably with a M/KB? Can you play a game while lying on your back? Can you choose how slow or fast you want your character to walk and not be limited to toggling walk/run with shift? Can you get the precision you need for racing games? How about fighting games? How about vibration?

How bout you stick to the original argument of the topic, which is in regards to FPS? Which is about shooting virtual people in the face?

KB/M combo is unquestionably superior in that. Period :)

Well, considering TC mentioned ergonomics, I think its fair to say comfort is part of the original argument of the topic. And in this area it comes down to opinion...

Well, considering TC mentioned ergonomics, I think its fair to say comfort is part of the original argument of the topic. And in this area it comes down to opinion...

real_nimrod

Vibration is the only thing you could call an advantage over m+kb. It might actually be a distraction for some but it is nice imo. Otherwise the gamepad fails in every other aspect compared to a m+kb for FPS.

I think the only advantage the gamepad has over kbm is movement

left analog > WASD

(imo of course)

Sword-Demon

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

Why not? There are lots of pros and cons to each.

(1) Can you play on the couch comfortably with a M/KB? (2) Can you play a game while lying on your back? (3) Can you choose how slow or fast you want your character to walk and not be limited to toggling walk/run with shift? (4) Can you get the precision you need for racing games? (5) How about fighting games? (6) How about vibration?

foxhound_fox

(1) Still wouldnt be as comfortable as sitting down with elbows fully rested.

(2) Were talking about KB/M vs gamepad not consoles vs PC + multiplayer disadvantage. LOTS of people do. Dont believe me? Create a poll.

(3) Then get better

(4) Were talking about KB/M vs gamepad not console vs PC

(5) Were talking about KB/M vs gamepad not console vs PC

(6) Lots of people care about rumble. Its not as insignificant as you think.

Im not arguing against PCs being better than consoles. Im saying there are pros and cons to each type of control. You guys seem to be saying MB/B wins ALL and thats untrue.