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#51 Badosh
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I heard the rules are simple here, but guess not.
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#52 Totalgym9000
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Because of all the ps3 exclusives and the blu-ray player it will have a way longer and stronger life than the other 2 consoles.
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#53 PSP107
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Having to scrap for 2nd place in 2012 after already having a world-wide established brand name + dominating a generation ago =/= impressive. Not that I give a dam about sales, but come on.limpbizkit818
as business person myself, thats true. Anyway, If winning a gen is based on sales, then call of duty is the best series this gen.
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#54 4dr1el
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Though the gap in the US market that matters the most is widening and is not 20+ million or more

Which means PS3 is non existent in US right now and soon will be same in Europe

That is why games sell 2-10x better on xbox 360 than PS3

loosingENDS

You claim to be from europe... why would the US market matter most? Why do you hate the PS3 so much? Before you say you own one, everyoen know that is a lie.

I dont hate PS3, why would i hate a system ?

I only hate the blineded PS3 fans that think casual 5 hour shooters like Uncharted are the best in gaming, when it is actually the very worst by miles and hat gaming should never become

I definatly hate SOny for spending time and money making such garbage, while not supporting Demons Souls for example

And yet, by your sig, you're supporting Kinect...

stfu lemming, you're embarassing yourself

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#55 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You claim to be from europe... why would the US market matter most? Why do you hate the PS3 so much? Before you say you own one, everyoen know that is a lie.

tenaka2

I dont hate PS3, why would i hate a system ?

I only hate the blineded PS3 fans that think casual 5 hour shooters like Uncharted are the best in gaming, when it is actually the very worst by miles and hat gaming should never become

I definatly hate SOny for spending time and money making such garbage, while not supporting Demons Souls for example

You hate blind fans? Do you not think that is a bit ironic?

Yes but he wouldn't be a blind fan if he didn't call others blind fans. And come on, its obviously all damage control, why else would someone show up to a thread to bash PS3 when PS3 is succeeding over someone's plastic wife in sales?

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#56 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Too bad ps3 wont overtake Xbox 360 until after the next gen begins with Wii U.

j_assassin

Lol i bet you lemming cannot wait for next gen console to arrive while the 360 still have that lead over ps3, too bad that wont stop the current gen console from selling

Yeah but Ms can say officially that Xbox 360 sold more than ps3 this gen.

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I only hate the blineded PS3 fans that think casual 5 hour shooters like Uncharted are the best in gamingloosingENDS
So you think all professional game reviewers are blind PS3 fanboys? You must because the general consensus in the industry is that the Uncharted series is a great-amazing series based upon review scores.
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#58 SuperFlakeman
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Profit wise, Sony lost a ton of cash while the Xbox brand finally became profitable this gen -- MS: 1 | Sony: 0

Sony lost 44% marketshare and MS gained 17% -- MS: 2 | Sony: 0

Kinect is overall a much better proposition than Move, which is basically Wii HD and the sales reflect this -- MS: 3 | Sony: 0

I'm sure XBLA sales > PSN sales, plus MS has profited alot from subs. MS proved this gen that they are a competent company and adaptable aswell.

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#60 razgriz_101
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Its like the Megadrive and the SNES all over again, just without mad advertising like Sega do what Nintendo'nt, sony should really pull that out and bash kinect considering its cows favourite arguement these weathers.

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#61 SecretPolice
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It's teh SP, it's this topic again, ya know what's coming....

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:P

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#63 KiZZo1
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It's teh SP, it's this topic again, ya know what's coming....

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SecretPolice

Does that also apply to graphics?

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#64 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

It's teh SP, it's this topic again, ya know what's coming....

ricky-bobby-if-you-aint-first%5B1%5D.jpg

:P

KiZZo1

Does that also apply to graphics?

Yup, PC is king with the HD twins long in the tooth. :P

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#65 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

It's teh SP, it's this topic again, ya know what's coming....

ricky-bobby-if-you-aint-first%5B1%5D.jpg

:P

SecretPolice

Does that also apply to graphics?

Yup, PC is king with the HD twins long in the tooth. :P

pc will always be the king as for consoles.. hmmm i wonder who have been winning the gfx awards from most sites since 2008 ??
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#66 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Does that also apply to graphics?

shadiezz2012

Yup, PC is king with the HD twins long in the tooth. :P

pc will always be the king as for consoles.. hmmm i wonder who have been winning the gfx awards from most sites since 2008 ??

C'mon, don't piss off the cows by bringing Crysis 2, 360 version into this. :twisted:

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#67 4dr1el
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Profit wise, Sony lost a ton of cash while the Xbox brand finally became profitable this gen -- MS: 1 | Sony: 0

Sony lost 44% marketshare and MS gained 17% -- MS: 2 | Sony: 0

Kinect is overall a much better proposition than Move, which is basically Wii HD and the sales reflect this -- MS: 3 | Sony: 0

I'm sure XBLA sales > PSN sales, plus MS has profited alot from subs. MS proved this gen that they are a competent company and adaptable aswell.

SuperFlakeman

And why the f*ck should that matter to gamers when they have no games to play on the 360? PS3 wins for gamers. 360 wins for shareholders

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#68 4dr1el
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Yup, PC is king with the HD twins long in the tooth. :P

SecretPolice

pc will always be the king as for consoles.. hmmm i wonder who have been winning the gfx awards from most sites since 2008 ??

C'mon, don't piss off the cows by bringing Crysis 2, 360 version into this. :twisted:

Lol, If I'm not mistaken (and I'm sure I'm not) U3 completly pwnd Crysis 2 360 version last year when it comes to graphics awards... Q_Q more lemmings

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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Yup, PC is king with the HD twins long in the tooth. :P

SecretPolice

pc will always be the king as for consoles.. hmmm i wonder who have been winning the gfx awards from most sites since 2008 ??

C'mon, don't piss off the cows by bringing Crysis 2, 360 version into this. :twisted:

lol you are funny man

crysis 2 only won one gfx award from here and it was for pc wth dx11 not consoles

2011 gfx awards gone for uncharted 3

Spike Best Graphics

IGN Best overrall Graphics

IGN Best Ps3 Graphics

****CC Best Graphics

GamesRadar Best Graphics Award

Edge Best Visual Design

Mediakick Best Visuals

GameTrailers Best Ps3 Graphics

GameTrailers Best Overrall Graphics

IGA Best Cinematography

TheDarkPodcast Best 3D Graphics

TheDarkPodcast Best Graphics

VGChartz Best Overrall Graphics Technology

VGChartz Best Overrall Graphics Technology (Readers choice)

VGChartz Best Ps3 Graphics Technology

OPM Best Graphic award

GameZone Best Graphics (Technical)

IGN Best Graphics (Readers choice)

IGN Best PS3 Graphics (Readers choice)

Nerdreactor Best Graphics

PSXextreme Best Graphics

Machinima Best Game Cinematography

TGA Best Graphics

AIAS Outstanding Achievement in Animation

AIAS Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction

AIAS Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering

AustralianPSMag Best Technical Achievement .

GameChronicles Best Cinematic Visuals

GameChronicles Best Graphics

DarkStation Best Graphics

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#70 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"] pc will always be the king as for consoles.. hmmm i wonder who have been winning the gfx awards from most sites since 2008 ??shadiezz2012

C'mon, don't piss off the cows by bringing Crysis 2, 360 version into this. :twisted:

lol you are funny man

crysis 2 only won one gfx award from here and it was for pc wth dx11 not consoles

2011 gfx awards gone for uncharted 3

Spike Best Graphics

IGN Best overrall Graphics

IGN Best Ps3 Graphics

****CC Best Graphics

GamesRadar Best Graphics Award

Edge Best Visual Design

Mediakick Best Visuals

GameTrailers Best Ps3 Graphics

GameTrailers Best Overrall Graphics

IGA Best Cinematography

TheDarkPodcast Best 3D Graphics

TheDarkPodcast Best Graphics

VGChartz Best Overrall Graphics Technology

VGChartz Best Overrall Graphics Technology (Readers choice)

VGChartz Best Ps3 Graphics Technology

OPM Best Graphic award

GameZone Best Graphics (Technical)

IGN Best Graphics (Readers choice)

IGN Best PS3 Graphics (Readers choice)

Nerdreactor Best Graphics

PSXextreme Best Graphics

Machinima Best Game Cinematography

TGA Best Graphics

AIAS Outstanding Achievement in Animation

AIAS Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction

AIAS Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering

AustralianPSMag Best Technical Achievement .

GameChronicles Best Cinematic Visuals

GameChronicles Best Graphics

DarkStation Best Graphics

Pfft, The award that trumps all those is .... Teh SP Best Graphics Award ..... went to Crysis 2 with Gears 3 as a close 2nd soooo ya know, the SP is teh best at counting an extra pixel here and a missing poly there sooo, just sayin. :twisted:

K, gosh, I really don't care and messinround so lets get back to...

If ya ain't 1st, you're last. :P

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#71 TintedEyes
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makes sense if it is, ps3 is the more future proof console with a better library of exclusives.

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#72 SPYDER0416
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I have to admit though, arguing for second place is dumb. Wii wins in sales, PC wins in graphics, Wii wins in high scores (for MC and GS), PC wins in variety and indie titles.

Either way they're second banana, 360 has sold more then PS3 but less then Wii by miles, PS3 has more great games now, but less then Wii in score and PC in number. Its just so pointless.

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#73 lhughey
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PS3 will definitely overtake the 360 considering the amount of great exclusives coming out for it. Turns out that having a rough launch but a smooth ending is a good move.

GamerwillzPS
Exclusives don't matter for sales. Price does. The console that gets to 149.99, then 99.99 first will be in 2nd place. But we are silly to think that M$ or Sony care about being in 2nd vs 3rd place. They are concerned about profit.
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#74 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"] pc will always be the king as for consoles.. hmmm i wonder who have been winning the gfx awards from most sites since 2008 ??4dr1el

C'mon, don't piss off the cows by bringing Crysis 2, 360 version into this. :twisted:

Lol, If I'm not mistaken (and I'm sure I'm not) U3 completly pwnd Crysis 2 360 version last year when it comes to graphics awards... Q_Q more lemmings

Considering the 360 has a larger game library and more AAA,AA and A games then the PS3 I think 360 fans are doing just fine.
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#75 StormyJoe
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Even if that is even true, I don't see how it makes a difference. If the PS3 eventually passes the 360, the damage is not only done, it's done in the worst place - the US. Most games today cater to "western gamers". As far as "western gamers" markets go, that's the US, UK, and Europe - not Japan. If you take Japan out of the mix, the PS3 has been crushed. Even if you don't want to believe that - MS's goal this gen was to compete, not necessarily "win". They managed to wipe out any Sony brand loyalty factor thid gen, and make a product that tied the PS3 when the PS2 won by over 100 million units. MS may not be the the "winner" this gen, but Sony sure is the "loser".
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#76 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="Blaz3_fox"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"] yeah but they will not do the same mistake again with ps4

Yeah they'll go the Wii route, minus the innovation and games.

really ??? any prove to that ???

Any proof that it wont be $599, and that "Sony wont make that mistake again"? ;) You really need to come up with a new retort.
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#77 Heil68
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Well, when MS dropped core and went 100% casual to chase the Wii's pot of gold the effects have been devastating. With a paltry amount of core exclusives and soccer moms and kids under 12 being their #1 demographic, it's not really surprising. When you take into account the 360's year head start, well, by golly the PS3 is dominating. SDC.
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#78 dream431ca
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The PS3 will eventually come out on top (2nd place) and the 360 will be at the bottom (Last Place).

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#79 Blue-Sky
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At this point does it even matter? Both consoles are at the end of their lifetime.

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#80 SPYDER0416
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At this point does it even matter? Both consoles are at the end of their lifetime.

Blue-Sky

Not according to the heads of MS and Sony who claim they won't be releasing or showing off new systems anytime soon.

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="Blaz3_fox"] Yeah they'll go the Wii route, minus the innovation and games.

really ??? any prove to that ???

Any proof that it wont be $599, and that "Sony wont make that mistake again"? ;) You really need to come up with a new retort.

you didn't find any thing to say so you are trying to make your self look like a Smarta** good for you hate sony even more keep saying sony is doomed they are evil BTW what is your PSN ?? let's play any game you want on ps3 what you say ;)
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#82 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

At this point does it even matter? Both consoles are at the end of their lifetime.

SPYDER0416

Not according to the heads of MS and Sony who claim they won't be releasing or showing off new systems anytime soon.

even when that happen ps3 won't stop selling and will still have new games
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#83 brennanhuff
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lol. 6 years in and cows are still saying "just wait". Pathetic little worms. You lost. Deal with it.

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#84 KiZZo1
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At this point does it even matter? Both consoles are at the end of their lifetime.

Blue-Sky

Don't think so. Developers will not immediately jump ship ignoring 120M+ install base between the two HD consoles. I think they will be supported even in 2014-2015.

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#85 Mar_Sama
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Well i would laugh if MS would bring a new console and Sony would just give a pack with a new graphic card, cooling system, an extra RAM stick and manual to insert it for 1/4 the price of the MS console:P

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#87 StrongDeadlift
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you didn't find any thing to say so you are trying to make your self look like a Smarta**

-I did find something to say, and I said it. You also ignored it:|, so Ill post it again:

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Any proof that it wont be $599, and that "Sony wont make that mistake again"? ;) You really need to come up with a new retort. shadiezz2012

good for you hate sony even more

-I dont hate anyone or any thing, especially not a videogame company.

keep saying sony is doomed they are evil

-didnt say any of that, but ok :lol:

BTW what is your PSN ?? let's play any game you want on ps3 what you say ;)

-Yea, lets not and say we did

:|

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#88 meluvulongtime8
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Does it even really matter at this point?? The Wii beat them both with poor third party support, poor online, no cross game chat, and sub HD graphics
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#89 Frostbite24
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Wait I thought cows didn't care about sales. Caught in another lie I guess. :lol:

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Well i would laugh if MS would bring a new console and Sony would just give a pack with a new graphic card, cooling system, an extra RAM stick and manual to insert it for 1/4 the price of the MS console:P

Mar_Sama
:? wut lol
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#91 PraetorianMan
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A one million gap is still significant.

Sagem28

When both systems have sold over 60 million units, no 1 million difference is not significant at all.

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#92 rasengan2552
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more threads about games, less threads about sales.

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#93 mems_1224
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:lol: it doesnt matter. sony already lost
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#94 razgriz_101
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:lol: it doesnt matter. sony already lostmems_1224

this gen isnt over is it? or do you live in future land with the kinect box, wii U and the orbis?

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#95 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]

"During Nintendo?s Investor presentation yesterday, the company revealed that the 3DS is dominating all platforms globally for 2012. Its data also revealed that Sony?s PS3 is leading so far this year from a home console standpoint. According to the investor report the PS3 is the number one selling console in Europe currently ahead of the Xbox 360 and Wii. The Xbox 360 is leading in the US while the PS3 is again leading in Japan. The total global sales for the PS3 put it at an estimated 2.27 million units year-to-date, with the Xbox 360 following behind it with an estimated 1.78 million units. The Nintendo Wii is straggling behind with 1.28 million units. "

so ps3 was 63.8m and now it sold 2.27m so it's now total 66.67m

xbox was at 65.9m and now it's sold 1.78 so total is 67.68m

so the gap now is 1.01m

and the source is "Nintendo?s Investor presentation"

http://gamer.blorge.com/2012/04/28/sony-leading-worldwide-console-sales-with-the-ps3-in-2012/

both consoles are almost even in sales

add to that ps3 launched after the xbox360

that's impressive

shadiezz2012

your figures are off, at the end of last year the Ps3 was at 62.0 million, the xbox 360 was at 65.8 million so Xbox 360 65.8+1.78 million=67.58 million Ps3 62.0+2.27=64.27 million So the gap is actually 3.31 million this is based on SONY's own figures found here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

hello delta nice to see you man

alot of sites show ps3 at 63.8m and that number is after Dec

and that's was son'y 3Q

where is their 4Q???

xbox360 numbers are from the 4Q

so i think it's true

let's wait and see sony/ms 1Q in 2012

nice to see you too man, anyway, it's because MS and SONY's fiscal year end at different times, the figures on that site are from january 2011 to dec 2011 for both consoles, the 360 actually outsold the Ps3 Worldwide by 0.8 million units last year, the first year the PS3 has not outsold the 360 worldwide since 2007, anyway, i was just pointing out your figures are a little off, as far as your argument that they are virtually neck and neck, i agree when we are talking 60+ million units 3 million units is only 5% which is a very small margin.
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#96 Nengo_Flow
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Fighting over second place in the last year of the generation is fun! Zeviander
this is wat I've been training for. the time has come
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#97 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]:lol: it doesnt matter. sony already lostrazgriz_101

this gen isnt over is it? or do you live in future land with the kinect box, wii U and the orbis?

what im saying is that it doesnt matter is sony passes the xbox at this point. sony had such a stranglehold on the industry last gen that just taking a piece of that away is a win. sony s*** the bed this gen and let MS become a big player in the industry. im surprised its taken them this long tbh
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#98 coasterguy65
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So we're using Nintendo's guesstimate numbers for MS and Sony sales now? I'm sure Sony and MS share actual numbers with Nintendo. Because as we know corporations love to share information with their competition. That's ok I'll wait for the quarterly reports from Sony, and MS for actual estimates of sales.

Sony has fallen so far this gen even if they somehow squeak into 2nd place they're still the biggest looser this gen.

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#99 kuraimen
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Only in NA people prefer inferior quality.
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#100 Riverwolf007
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"During Nintendo?s Investor presentation yesterday, the company revealed that the 3DS is dominating all platforms globally for 2012. Its data also revealed that Sony?s PS3 is leading so far this year from a home console standpoint. According to the investor report the PS3 is the number one selling console in Europe currently ahead of the Xbox 360 and Wii. The Xbox 360 is leading in the US while the PS3 is again leading in Japan. The total global sales for the PS3 put it at an estimated 2.27 million units year-to-date, with the Xbox 360 following behind it with an estimated 1.78 million units. The Nintendo Wii is straggling behind with 1.28 million units. "

so ps3 was 63.8m and now it sold 2.27m so it's now total 66.07m

xbox was at 65.9m and now it's sold 1.78 so total is 67.68m

so the gap now is 1.51m

and the source is "Nintendo?s Investor presentation"

http://gamer.blorge.com/2012/04/28/sony-leading-worldwide-console-sales-with-the-ps3-in-2012/

both consoles are almost even in sales

add to that ps3 launched after the xbox360

that's impressive

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:lol: hey look, a pro ps3 topic which means the cows precious level 10 to post rule gets thrown out the window.:lol:

lol, you dudes are so lame.