The gap may be widening... 360 / PS3.

At least this analysis from Gamasutra seems to conclude.

I dunno, seemed good SW stuff so comment if you feel like it. :P

The Story.

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Just the last few paragraphs, for the full read:http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/30316/Analysis_Xbox_360_S_Model_Tracking_Ahead_of_PS3_Slim.php

None of the above estimation takes into account Microsoft's first ace in the hole: Halo: Reach. According to analyst Doug Creutz of Cowen and Company, sales of that title could reach 3.6 million units in September alone. Sales at that level could add $250 million to Microsoft's software revenue, and just from a single title. We also expect that hardware sales for September will easily exceed 400,000 units.

Microsoft's second ace is its ability to drop its hardware prices at the time of its own choosing. Provided its hardware sales remain strong through the end of the year – and we see no reason for them to slow down – it can easily afford a $50 price drop on all its systems in early 2011. We feel the Xbox 360 offers a superior value, and at $150 the Arcade model could do exceptionally well throughout next year.

Whether Kinect, the new motion control technology launching on the Xbox 360 in November 2010, will represent a significant factor in the system's sales remains unclear to us. (For the sake of completeness, we are also not clear on Sony's strategy for its Move system.)

I'm positive next time Sony and MS release their worldwide numbers the PS3 will be closer.

i really don't care about the gap, the only reason it was ever important to me was back in the 360 launch days to make sure that 3rd party would be interested in making multiplat games.

after that was a sure thing i had no interest in who came in second place in a console war.

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

I'm positive next time Sony and MS release their worldwide numbers the PS3 will be closer.

ArtisTool

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

monson21502

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

Haven't all Halo fans bought a 360 console when halo 3 launched? I seea largerconsole sales boost for ps3 when GT5 launches that Reach has given 360.

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

Key word 'may' because, lets be honest, we dont have a clue.Indie_Hitman

[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

Indie_Hitman

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="monson21502"]nope. but it doesnt matter. the wii days are numbered. unless they count wii hd to wii sales im betting both ps3 and 360 beat it out in the next for years.monson21502

[QUOTE="ArtisTool"]

I'm positive next time Sony and MS release their worldwide numbers the PS3 will be closer.

Jamani

Question: Is MS making any money out of the X360 with so many price-drops and early high failure rate? Didn't they lost millions and millions of dollars in the warranties and now the Analyst is suggesting another price-drop?

Question: Is MS making any money out of the X360 with so many price-drops and early high failure rate? Didn't they lost millions and millions of dollars in the warranties and now the Analyst is suggesting another price-drop?

Gue1

All i see are speculations which i have some on my own, i expect the PS3 to outsell the x360 when the PS3 hits the 200$ point, the x360 wouldn't have a chance even if it was for free?!

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Question: Is MS making any money out of the X360 with so many price-drops and early high failure rate? Didn't they lost millions and millions of dollars in the warranties and now the Analyst is suggesting another price-drop?

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Question: Is MS making any money out of the X360 with so many price-drops and early high failure rate? Didn't they lost millions and millions of dollars in the warranties and now the Analyst is suggesting another price-drop?

Indie_Hitman

Can you post a link? I'd like to see that.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Question: Is MS making any money out of the X360 with so many price-drops and early high failure rate? Didn't they lost millions and millions of dollars in the warranties and now the Analyst is suggesting another price-drop?

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]In reality I think the gaming div. has been in the black for a couple years now. :o

Can you post a link? I'd like to see that.

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="monson21502"]nope. but it doesnt matter. the wii days are numbered. unless they count wii hd to wii sales im betting both ps3 and 360 beat it out in the next for years.monson21502

Haven't all Halo fans bought a 360 console when halo 3 launched? I seea largerconsole sales boost for ps3 when GT5 launches that Reach has given 360.

elcoholic

eh, perhaps. i'm no analyst, but my guesstimate is that, world wide, ps3 is closing the gap, though i don't think they'll ever match 360 sales numbers.

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]In reality I think the gaming div. has been in the black for a couple years now. :o

waltefmoney

Can you post a link? I'd like to see that.

If it happens to be true, I think it is their life-to-date figures for the entire console division of the companies. MS lost a TON of money on the Xbox and didn't profit on the Xbox 360 until 2008. That division's net revenue was several billion dollars in the red before the Xbox 360 ever released. The Xbox 360 however, is in the black now. Sony was WAY in the the black before the PS3(in case you didn't know, the PS2 was kind of a big deal) was released but has been in the red since then.

yet somehow everytime MS and Sony release their WORLDWIDE numbers (not just NPD), PS3 is closer than it was the previous year. I wonder how that works. And LOL at any analyst saying Kinect will represent significant sales to the X360 hardware............I mean seriously, these people are being paid by MS to say this. At least Sony admits it doesn't predict sales to be big but MS is claiming it's going to be huge lol.darthogre

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

A month or two back was a table of figures for MS and Sony. MS is 4 billion in the red and Sony is 2 billion in the red. Or was it 6 and 4...Indie_Hitman

Can you post a link? I'd like to see that.

If it happens to be true, I think it is their life-to-date figures for the entire console division of the companies. MS lost a TON of money on the Xbox and didn't profit on the Xbox 360 until 2008. That division's net revenue was several billion dollars in the red before the Xbox 360 ever released. The Xbox 360 however, is in the black now. Sony was WAY in the the black before the PS3(in case you didn't know, the PS2 was kind of a big deal) was released but has been in the red since then.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Question: Is MS making any money out of the X360 with so many price-drops and early high failure rate? Didn't they lost millions and millions of dollars in the warranties and now the Analyst is suggesting another price-drop?

Indie_Hitman

Microsoft is only 4 billion in the red if you count the original Xbox, the current xbox is at 2 billion at the red (and decreasing, the console has been producing stead proffit since 2008 )

the PS3 is at 3-4 billion in the red tough

I'm positive next time Sony and MS release their worldwide numbers the PS3 will be closer.

ArtisTool

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

CaseyWegner

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

[QUOTE="darthogre"]yet somehow everytime MS and Sony release their WORLDWIDE numbers (not just NPD), PS3 is closer than it was the previous year. I wonder how that works. And LOL at any analyst saying Kinect will represent significant sales to the X360 hardware............I mean seriously, these people are being paid by MS to say this. At least Sony admits it doesn't predict sales to be big but MS is claiming it's going to be huge lol.tbolt76

[QUOTE="ArtisTool"]

I'm positive next time Sony and MS release their worldwide numbers the PS3 will be closer.

blackace

[QUOTE="tbolt76"][QUOTE="darthogre"]yet somehow everytime MS and Sony release their WORLDWIDE numbers (not just NPD), PS3 is closer than it was the previous year. I wonder how that works. And LOL at any analyst saying Kinect will represent significant sales to the X360 hardware............I mean seriously, these people are being paid by MS to say this. At least Sony admits it doesn't predict sales to be big but MS is claiming it's going to be huge lol.darthogre

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="tbolt76"] There is a reason. Move represents nothing new or interesting, while Kinect is new and interesting.tbolt76

I predicted next months npd will be 700k for 360 and its looking like i may be right. And thats not even counting ww sales wowbigboss5ak

Definitely going to see the Reach effect next month in NPD.... was at BBuy this morning to pick up Reach and all they had left was a few Arcarde models. Sales dude said it was a madhouse there Tues night.

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

keyword sholud be unlikely unless they are suggesting that xbox 360 new hardware and halo reach would diminish the 2 million shipment difference which were between ps3 and xbox 360 in the last 2 quarters. But there is a chance that this quarter xbox 360 outsells it by a couple 100 thousand units (no way it is going to be in the millions no one is that stupid here) just to in effect have a holiday season similar to 2009.

It's possible, but the question is, even if so will it continue to widen? PS3 recently has shown itself to be a contender this generation (though a little late), and the release of the S and S Arcade so close to Reach was a good idea (offer new hardware close to a game people are itching to play), but still, will it have the long road appeal that it once did?

Going off the past few years, I doubt it.

Haven't all Halo fans bought a 360 console when halo 3 launched? I seea largerconsole sales boost for ps3 when GT5 launches that Reach has given 360.

elcoholic

How stupid are people now-a-days. Its ok I'm here now so let me inform you with some information you seem to be lacking. First off yes everyone who wanted a 360 for Halo has already gotten one by now. But all 8 million of their 360 red ringed and they had no reason to buy another 360 till now. So by doing that Microsoft gets another 8 mil Xboxs sold overnight. Then in 6 months when the next Halo game comes out and all the new 360s red ring people will go out and get another 360. Smart business move on MS part. Now you know why the 3rd iteration of a system seller will sell systems.

[QUOTE="monson21502"]

360 gonna be numberone before this gen ends :D

do you not know how far ahead the wii and pc are?

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]

Haven't all Halo fans bought a 360 console when halo 3 launched? I seea largerconsole sales boost for ps3 when GT5 launches that Reach has given 360.

SexySasquatch11

How stupid are people now-a-days. Its ok I'm here now so let me inform you with some information you seem to be lacking. First off yes everyone who wanted a 360 for Halo has already gotten one by now. But all 8 million of their 360 red ringed and they had no reason to buy another 360 till now. So by doing that Microsoft gets another 8 mil Xboxs sold overnight. Then in 6 months when the next Halo game comes out and all the new 360s red ring people will go out and get another 360. Smart business move on MS part. Now you know why the 3rd iteration of a system seller will sell systems.

PC? LOL!! There's no hardware to count for the PC? Graphic cards? No!! Maybe OnLive could be counted. That's really the only dedicated PC playing piece of hardware on the market right now. blackace

What's the count for total dedicated gaming consoles? Determining total by how dedicated they are to a specific function won't give a reliable number. How many people bought a PS3 as the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market at release?