The GTAIV Kickass Hype/Discussion Thread (56k) - KEEP IT HERE OR BE SUSPENDED!

Yes, I did just call my own thread 'kickass', simply because any thread with information, news, videos, previews, and screens of Grand Theft Auto IV is kickass. This thread is for anyone who wants to learn more and get hyped up for one of the most incredible titles that gamers will be graced with for 2008.

Welcome to Liberty City: "Where the American Dream goes to die."

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fuzzysquash's Metal Gear Solid IV Mega-Hype Thread!

Latest News:

GTAIV Playstation 3 Bundle = Confirmed.

GTAIV censored for Australia.

New trailer shown March 27, click to see!

15 multiplayer modes, 16 players online.

GTAIV to take 100 hours to complete.

Reviews:

OXM UK - 10/10. Review here. Spoilers!

"The surprise, to our delight, is that everything - absolutely everything, from the dirt on the cars to the ringtones for your mobile right through to the character you play as - has been created to a ridiculously high level of detail. The result is a game that is almost impossible to get bored of."

Essential Info:

Release Date: April 29, worldwide.
Platforms: Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.
Game modes:Both Singleplayer and Multiplayer (16 players online).
Genre: Modern Action Adventure.
Developer:Rockstar North.
Official Site: Link.

FAQ:

What the hell is Grand Theft Auto IV?
If you don't know the answer to this question, you need to get the ** out of the cave you've been living in. Grand Theft Auto IV (GTAIV) is the first entry in the fourth generation of the Grand Theft Auto video game franchise. The game is set in a redesigned Liberty City, based heavily on New York City and New Jersey. You do NOT need to have played Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, or Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas to play and understand Grand Theft Auto IV.

GTA IV follows the release of the hugely successful GTA: San Andreas and also marks the 10th anniversary of the Grand Theft Auto franchise. With Grand Theft Auto 4 being the milestone that it is, Rockstar Games has been working overtime on perfecting the game. Approximately 150 developers are currently working on GTA 4.

Niko Bellic is the badass protagonist of GTAIV who has come to Liberty City to pursue the "American Dream". Niko was persuaded to move to Liberty City by his cousin Roman, who claimed in multiple e-mails to Niko that he was living a fabulous life, with a mansion, two women, four hot tubs and 15 sports cars; but he was actually telling lies to hide his own failures, and in fact, has set up a small taxi business, for which he has plans of a job for Niko. Niko is a wanted criminal.

What's all this I hear about Downloadable content?
The 360 version of GTAIV will have exclusive downloadable content with 2 episodes announced thus far. Delivery of the GTA expansions will be available via digital download. Prices have not been announced. The PS3 version has had no confirmed downloadable content atm.

Special Edition? What?
The normal edition of GTAIV retails for $59.99 in North America, AU$119.95 in Australia (Target has $20 off if you preorder), and £49.99 in Europe. The normal edition simply consists of the game. The special edition consists of:

• A customised metal safe deposit box.
• A Rockstar keychain for the safe deposit box keys.
• A limited edition Rockstar duffel bag.
• Production artwork in the Grand Theft Auto IV Art Book.
• Selected soundtrack CD from Grand Theft Auto IV.
• A specially packaged version of the game.

The special edition will retail for $89.99 in North America, AU$149.95 in Australia (Target has $20 off if you preorder), and £79.99 in Europe. This is a picture of the special edition of GTAIV:

What's the gameplay like?
Awesome, of course. Titles in the GTA series have traditionally been heavily mission based (fixed missions must be completed to progress through each game), but the freedom to explore and play outside of the set missions in GTA IV will now be more relevant to progress through the game, according to comments by a Rockstar spokesperson: "We're really trying to blur the line between on-mission and off-mission." What happens in the storyline will affect your off-mission choices. There is more freedom in GTAIV than any other entry in the franchise.

Lots more info but read at your own risk, ie. you might prefer to wait until you play the game to find out about what sorts of new stuff you can expect:

• Niko can use a mobile phone to recieve calls and phone his contacts. He can also use it to call taxis and purchase weapons. The options presented on the phone's LCD are Phonebook, Messages, Organizer, and Camera.
• Pedestrians smoke cigarettes, read books and newspapers, drop litter, talk on mobile phones, walk in and out of buildings, and generally act like a normal pedestrian would.
• It is possible to climb and descend telephone poles and exterior fire escapes.
• There are many different animation sets for breaking into cars. One of these involves Niko smashing the side window with his elbow, climbing into the car, and then hotwiring it.
• Niko is able to manage his funds at ATMs.
• GTA IV features multiplayer, but it's "not a massively multiplayer game," according to Rockstar's creative vice president Dan Houser.
• It is possible to surf the internet in GTA4 via internet cafés. It is available from any computer in the game, and provides a hub for all sorts of interactivity within Liberty City. The camera angle behind the car is closer than it has been in previous GTAs. This allows you to see more detail on the cars, and more of the verticality of the city.
• In GTA IV, you will gain a police wanted level for any crime that you commit, providing there are witnesses present. The police can only chase you if they know where you are, and they need to see you to know where you are. If you escape the search area marked on the radar without being spotted, your wanted level will disappear.
• In terms of scale, GTA IV is about the same size as GTA: San Andreas, but the map size is considerably smaller. This is mainly due to the fact there is no desert or countryside in Liberty City. Liberty City in GTA4 is biggest city R* have ever created.
• Every street in Liberty City contains a street sign with a name on it.
• It is possible to do more than one mission at a time. For example, some missions take place over several days and may involve waiting for phonecalls or attending interviews, and you are free to carry out other business during the waiting period.
• The story can be told in a number of different ways. Rockstar are trying to give people greater freedom and sense of control over their destiny. You now have a lot more choice in what you want to do.
• Interpersonal relationships are now dynamic; ignoring cell phone calls or refusing help will change the attitude by specific characters towards Niko.
• The flow of pedestrians and traffic will be different depending on the time of day. Pedestrians and motorists will often act as good samaritans and aid characters that Niko is attacking or carjacking.
• Niko's outfit can be changed throughout the game. However, it will not be possible to customise his physique or hair as in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
• Heavy fire will scar - and permanently destroy - parts of the environment. It is possible to shoot through walls with powerful weapons.
• When Niko goes to the hospital, he has to pay $100 and he will keep his weapons. When Niko gets arrested, he has to pay more than $100 and he will lose his weapons.
• In a police vehicle, Niko can use an in-car computer to access the criminal database and discover information about various criminals in Liberty City, possibly including himself.
• The player can hail a cab in order to travel to any address in the city. When riding, the player has the option of viewing the journey from the inside, or skipping it to arrive at the destination immediately. The player will be able to ask the driver to change the radio station by pressing D-pad left or right.
• Niko will make use of the Internet as a means of communication. Although the exact details of the role of the Internet in the game are being kept secret, it has been revealed that Niko can access the internet from various cyber cafes in order to upload a resume for prospective employers. There are over 100 accessible, fictitious websites within the game.
• There is now an autosave that activates after completing a mission.
• Characters will be able to hang on to helicopters and trucks, which will swing them around as the vehicle moves.
• Some meetings in the game will take place high in the buildings of skyscrapers, which will subsequently allow Niko to throw people off the buildings. However, Niko will not be able to access all the buildings in the game.

This next section about the gameplay is courtesy of donwoogie who summarised the latest 13-page EGM interview about GTAIV into a few main points:

• Using the cell phone, you can call the emergency services like an ambulance, police car or fire engine and it will be dispatched in real time from one of the stations in the borough you are calling from. This can work to allow you to easily ambush and steal an emergency vehicle. Services also respond to threats in the environment that may not be your fault, so if you get into a firefight with a group of enemies, you can lay low and call in the cops who will try to take down anyone they see as lawbreakers including your enemies.
• The phone system allows you to start your missions however you want, and this works through a contact system. You need to keep contacts happy for them to stay on your list which means you must do jobs for them, doing sub-missions for them, or participating in mini-games for them, like taking them out for drinks then doing the drive home drunk mini-game.
• Houser mentions an example of "bomb the base" mission in GTA3 where 8-ball and the protagonist needed to blow up the ship in Portland Harbour while the player is sniping people to keep 8 ball from getting shot by them. He states that he is trying to harness the power of the next gen systems to make this type of gameplay much deeper.
• The aiming, drive-by and cover systems are purposefully made grittier so that players are forced to refine their gun shooting skills instead of simply using auto-aim like in previous installments.
• You can flag down cabs to take you anywhere you want which can be easier since this game introduces more realism into stealing cars, ie. stealing cars and taking them to destinations is not as simple an affair as in previous GTA games.
• If you smash into something at high speed, you'll fly through the windshield. One rep mentions, one time, to escape the police, he smashed his car into the curb on a waterfront and his avatar was launched through the windshield and into the harbour where he quickly nabbed a boat and sped off.
• The new hand to hand combat system involves counter-attacks. They had a consultant who gave them advice on Krav Maga (Israeli Special Forces Martial Arts) for them to integrate into the game.
• Climbing is more versatile this time round with the avatar being able to shimmy up pipes, along conduits, jump from building to building like Lara Croft and hang on to back of vehicles with a minigame which you need to complete constantly to hang on and keep balanced.
• Grenades can be dropped out of vehicles onto the road. You can "cook" them, meaning they have a time limit before explosion so, you hold down a button to pull the pin out and let go to drop it out the window onto the road. By holding down longer, you can time it so that the grenade explodes sooner after being dropped on the road over if you had just tapped the button. Holding too long causes it to explode in Niko's hand.

Jack Thompson? Who?
Jack Thompson filed a document with a federal court in Florida that claims that the assassination target of a mission in GTA IV is a lawyer character based upon himself. When the main protagonist enters his office and pulls a gun on him, the lawyer yells "Guns don't kill people! Video games do!" Thompson has threatened that unless the similarities to himself are removed from the game he will "take necessary and proper means to stop release of the game".

Which version of the game has better graphics?
Jeronimo Barrera, Vice President of Product Development at Rockstar said that the games are "identical" and "neck and neck" in terms of development.

Is there a PC version of the game?
No, it has not been announced (yet).

What about the tech info?
Grand Theft Auto 4 runs on Rockstar's proprietary next generation game engine, R.A.G.E., allowing for an unprecedented level of realism and interactivity.

• New sunlight and weather effects which give the city a whole different appearance as the time of day progresses.
• Volumetric lighting effects allow sunlight to stream realistically into dusty interiors. Police spotlights will likely benefit from this effect as well when helicopters kick up debris.
• Normal (bump) maps will provide much more detail in models than the underlying polygons, as well as giving materials more texture and depth.
• Road and building textures are more varied than in previous GTAs. On some roads you will find potholes, metal plates (etc) where the road has been dug up.
• Modern pixel shaders give water, glass, cars, etc.. more realistic reflections and shininess than the earlier games.
• In cars, you can see real reflections on the rear and side-view mirrors.
• There are no load times in GTA4, not even during exterior-interior transitions.

What's Liberty City look like in GTAIV?
Liberty City, the "Worst Place in America".

That picture above is a rendition of Liberty City for GTAIV.

The Characters of GTAIV:

Niko Bellicis the main protagonist (pictured above) and playable character of Grand Theft Auto IV. Niko is revealed to be guilty of previous criminal acts in his life, such as killing, selling and smuggling people. He wishes to begin a new life in Liberty City. Everything will of course go very smoothly.

Roman Bellic (no artwork for this character yet) is Niko's cousin who has lived in Liberty City for 15 years. He is heavily in debt with various figures around the city, and needs help from Niko who he has convinced to join him in LC.

For 10 years or more, Elizabeta (pictured above) has been a successful drug dealer in Bohan. Successful because she kept things low key and paid off or killed the right people. She knows that a crackdown on drug dealing is going to put her under scrutiny and her own narcotic consumption has spiraled out of control, making her dangerously paranoid and delusional.

Lola is a prostitute.

When the PoliceOf Liberty Cityare in search of Niko, the player will now have to avoid a certain radius marked on the map in which the police will be looking for him. The size of this radius will increase with the player's wanted level (the more stars, the bigger the radius) and re-centres itself on Niko's location if he is spotted by the police.

Mikhail Faustinwillbe an ally initially to Niko and it is rumoured that he is a corrupt detective.

For more info on characters, check out this link.

Trailers:

Things Will Be Different.

Looking For That Special Someone.

Move Up Ladies.

Everyone's A Rat.

Hope that helped get you pumped for the GOTY of 2008. If you wish to discuss why one version of the game will suck or why this game is crap, please GO. This thread is for discussion of GTAIV of any kind but no trolling please.

Liberty City Exposed

Bigger, grittier, and more brutal than ever, Liberty City is back with a vengeance in Grand Theft Auto IV. Here are the 5 boroughs you will get to explore:

BROKER - "Churches, hipsters and housing projects."

The region of Broker is rich in American history, and equally rich in Eastern European immigrants. As of late, the district has also taken to "sprucing up" its ragged image through the restoration of older, run-down neighbourhoods. Don't let Carney Island fool you, though; Broker is just as rough-and-tumble as any other Liberty City district.

DUKES - "Like the suburbs, only worse."

The closest thing to sanity that could possibly be found in Liberty City, complete with overpriced condominiums and unavailable parking. You may even be tempted to refer to the district as "comfortable". Diverse and densely populated, Dukes is home to both the Francis International Airport and Steinway Beer Garden.

BOHAN - "Ripe for re-development."

Neglected and disrespected, Bohan is the closest thing to hell that you can find in the city (and that's saying something). This northernmost district of Liberty has been torn apart by decades of destructive violence. If you find yourself wandering into Bohan, don't just lock your doors -- weld them shut!

ALGONQUIN - "Self-proclaimed center of everything."

Cultural center of the world, commercial center of the world, financial center of the world. If Algonquin residents could have it their way, the region would also be considered the epicenter of everything in the known universe. A word of warning to the inquisitive traveler: questioning the integrity of Algonquin's self-righteous and artificially-sweetened natives will likely get you shot.

ALDERNEY - "Industrial wasteland meets suburban hell."

If Algonquin is the privileged child of the Liberty City family, then Alderney is most definitely the retarded younger brother -- an endless sea of run-down homes peppered with phallus-like smokestacks thrusting into the sickly clouds above. Simply put? Nobody wants to live in Alderney, and those that are unfortunate enough to live in the district desperately want to get out.

The Multiplayer Of GTAIV

• Your player is fully customisable
• A maximum of 16 players can be in the game
• The host can configure each mode to his/her liking
• 15 game modes are available, and described in the table below

1. Free Mode: 1-16 players. Description: Go anywhere and do anything! Like single-player, except playing with your friends.
2. Deathmatch 2-16 players. Description: Anything goes, you can use any tactics you like to kill off the competition. Confined to specific areas of Liberty City to keep the action intense.
3. Team Deathmatch 2-16 (up to 8 teams of two) players. Description: Same as above but in teams. The best thing - four of you in one car (or even a helicopter!), one with shotgun, two with uzi's, one with molotovs!
4. GTA Race 1-16 players. Description: Race through the city on predetermined courses in a variety of different vehicles. You can pick up weapons en route and use these against your opponents, and you can also swap vehicles if you find a better one during the race.
5. Mafia Work 2-8 players. Description: Mafiya boss Petrovic has jobs for you, which he'll describe to you over the phone. Each job is like a simplified mission. You might have to pick up recruits for the firm or take out a target, or PLAY Magazine's favourite - find and then dispose of a dozen severed heads.
6. Team Mafia Work 2-16 players. Description: (up to 8 teams of two) Same as above but this time you are in competition with another mafiya team for the same job. More tactical this time, and more challenging.
7. Cops N Crooks 4-16 (two teams) players. Description: One team plays the crooks, one the cops. One of the players on the crooks' team is randomly assigned the boss and the others have to protect him and get him to an escape location on the map, while the cops have to hunt and kill him.
8. Hangman's NOOSE 2-4 players. Description: Mafiya boss Petrovic has illegally flown into Francis International Airport, and someone has tipped off NOOSE. You and your team must protect Petrovic and get him to a safe location in Liberty City.

The Weapons of GTAIV

Arm thyself with tools of ass-kickery.

Thanks to GTA4.net

Glock
Caliber: 9x19mm
Capacity: 17

Developed in the 1980s by Austrian engineer, Gaston Glock, the eponymous pistol soon became the world's most popular civilian and law enforcement sidearm.

Desert Eagle
Caliber: .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, or .50 AE
Capacity: 9, 8, or 7

In 1979, Magnum Research Inc. set out to create the first gas-operated, magnum-caliber pistol. The Desert Eagle is the weapon of choice for Hollywood (and video game) bad guys.

Micro Uzi
Caliber: 9x19mm
Capacity: 20

The smallest member of the Uzi family was introduced by Israel Military Industries in 1986 as a security weapon to fill the firepower gap between pistols and standard submachine guns.

MP5 N(A3)
Caliber: 9x19mm
Capacity: 30

The Heckler & Koch MP5 was originally developed in the 1960s, but has been further refined and revised over the years into a number of different models. Thanks in large part due to the number of options available, reliability, and accuracy, it is the most widely used submachine gun today.

SW MP-10
Caliber: 9x19mm Capacity: 30

The Special Weapons MP-10 (also known as the PXP-10) is essentially an MP5 clone with a custom polymer upper. Not much is really known about it, as it's apparently made in very small numbers by a very small and, err, mysterious company.

M4 Carbine
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Capacity: 30

Despite some teething problems with the earlier M16 variant during the Vietnam War, Eugene Stoner's 1958 AR-15 design went on to become one of the most popular and versatile rifles in the world.

AK-47
Caliber: 7.62x39mm
Capacity: 30

Even after sixty years, Mikhail Kalashnikov's legendary AK-47 rifle is still a hard act to follow; both in reliability and popularity. Created with mass production in mind, the simple design and loose clearances resulted in a rifle that's practically indestructible.

G3SG/1
Caliber: 7.62x51mm NATO
Capacity: 20

The G3SG/1 is a version of the H&K G3 rifle optimized for sniper applications. Capacity is unknown but assumed to be 20 at present time (will update when more info comes in).

PSG1
Caliber: 7.62x51mm
Capacity: 20

The PSG1 is another H&K G3 sniper variant. It is unknown if both this and the G3SG/1 will be in the game, or whether the above is only in the art. Probably the latter.

SPAS-12
Gauge: 12
Capacity: 8

This Italian semi-automatic shotgun was designed by the Luigi Franchi company in the late '70s. Originally intended for police and military use, the SPAS-12 features a heat shield under the pump/handguard to protect the user's hands during sustained fire.

Winchester Defender
Gauge: 12
Capacity: 5

Based roughly on the Remington 870, the Winchester 1300 line is also known as the "Speed Pump" series thanks to the short, fast cycling of the action. This feature has made the shotgun popular for both sporting and security purposes.

RPG-7
Caliber: 40mm
Capacity: 1

This anti-tank, rocket propelled grenade launcher was first used by the Soviets back in 1961. It has remained popular ever since thanks to its durability and low cost.

Latest Previews:

IGN GTAIV Multiplayer Hands-On: And that's what it feels like to have your mind blown.

IGN's "GTAIV - Pushing the Limits": "The multiplayer game alone is a huge thing, the single-player game is enormous and if you just want to explore in the world, there's a ****load of stuff there as well."

Massive new PSM3 preview: "Rarely has a game felt so simultaneously comfortable, yet laced with uncretainty and the thrill of exploration."

Interview with the first man to finish GTAIV: "Incredible dialogue, characterisation is genuinely Oscar-worthy, and Niko Bellic is absolutely the most amazing protagonist in any game I've ever played."

The Official Grand Theft Auto Soundtrack Collection

Grand Theft Auto III

DJ: Michael Hunt
Genre: Soft Rock, Adult Contemporary
Tracklist:

• Dil-Don't - "Stripe Summer"
• Whatever - "Good Thing"
• Craig Gray - "Fade Away"
• Conor & Jay - "Change"
• Frankie Fame - "See Through You"
• Scatwerk - "Electronic Go Go"
• Dezma - "Life Is But A Mere Supply"

DJ: Morgan Merryweather
Genre: Opera
Tracklist:

• "Non piu andrai farfallone amoroso" from Le Nozze di Figaro
• "Chi mi frena in tal momento" from Lucia di Lammermoor
• "Libiamo ne'lieti calici" from La traviata
• "Finch'han del vino" from Don Giovanni
• "O mio babbino caro" from Gianni Schicchi
• "La donna è mobile" from Rigoletto

DJ: Horace "The Pacifist" Walsh
Genre: Dub
Tracklist:

• Scientist - "Dance of the Vampires"
• Scientist - "Your Teeth in My Neck"
• Scientist - "The Corpse Rises"
• Scientist - "The Mummy's Shroud"
• Scientist - "Plague of Zombies"

DJ: Andre The Accelerator
Genre: Trance
Tracklist:

• Slyder - "Neo (The One)"
• Slyder - "Score (Original Mix)"
• Chris Walsh & Dave Beran - "Shake (Revolt Clogrock Remix)"
• Shiver - "Deep Time"
• R.R.D.S. - "Innerbattle"

DJ: Andee
Genre: Pop
Tracklist:

• Fatamarse - "Bump To The Music"
• Marydancin - "Wash Him Off"
• April's in Paris - "Feels Like I Just Can't Take No More"
• Lucy - "Forever"
• Boyz 2 Girls - "Pray It Goes Ok?"
• Da Shootaz - "Grand Theft Auto"
• Funky BJs - "Rubber Tip"
  

DJ: DJ Stretch Armstrong
Genre: Underground hip-hop
Tracklist:

• Reef - Scary Movies
• Royce Da 5'9" - We're Live (Danger)
• Nature - Nature Free****/span>
• JoJo Pellegrino - JoJo Pellegrino Free****/span>
• Royce Da 5'9" - I'm the King
• Ilacoin (Feat. Labba, Black Rob) - By A Stranger
• 8-Off Agallah (Feat. Sean Price, Bazaar Royale) - Rising to the Top

DJ: MC Codebreaker and DJ Timecode
Genre: Drum and Bass
Tracklist:

• Calyx - "Quagmire"
• Rascal and Klone - "Get Wild"
• Ryme Tyme - "Judgement Day"
• Omni Trio - "First Contact"
• Aquasky - "Spectre"
• Rascal and Klone - "Winner Takes All"
• Cause 4 Concern - "Spasm"
• D Kay - "Monolith"
• TJ Rizing - "Agent 007"

DJ: Toni
Genre: 1980s Pop music
Tracklist:

• Paul Engemann - "Push It to the Limit"
• Debbie Harry - "Rush Rush"
• Amy Holland - "She's On Fire"
• Elizabeth Daily - "Shake It Up"
• Elizabeth Daily - "I'm Hot Tonight"

DJ: Lazlow
Genre: Talkshow
Tracklist:

• Chatterbox FM Part 1
• Chatterbox FM Part 2
• Chatterbox FM Part 3
• Chatterbox FM Part 4
• Chatterbox FM Part 5
• Chatterbox FM Part 6
  

Grand Theft Auto Vice City

DJ:Lazlow
Genre:Heavy metal, Glam Metal, Hard rock
Tracklist:

• Twisted Sister - "I Wanna Rock"
• Mötley Crüe - "Too Young to Fall in Love"
• Quiet Riot - "Cum on Feel the Noize"
• The Cult - "She Sells Sanctuary"
• Ozzy Osbourne - "Bark At The Moon"
• Rockstar's Love Fist - "Dangerous Bastard"
• Iron Maiden - "2 Minutes to Midnight"
• Loverboy - "Working for the Weekend"
• Alcatrazz - "God Blessed Video"
• Tesla - "Comin' Atcha Live"
• Autograph - "Turn Up the Radio"
• Megadeth - "Peace Sells"
• Anthrax - "Madhouse"
• Slayer - "Raining Blood"
• Judas Priest - "You've Got Another Thing Comin'"
• Rockstar's Love Fist - "Fist Fury"
• David Lee Roth - "Yankee Rose"

DJ:Adam First
Genre: New Wave, Synthpop
Tracklist:

• Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Two Tribes"
• Sigue Sigue Sputnik - "Love Missile F1-11"
• Gary Numan - "Cars"
• The Human League - "(Keep Feeling) Fascination"
• Blondie - "Atomic"
• Nena - "99 Luftballons"
• Kim Wilde - "Kids in America"
• Tears for Fears - "Pale Shelter"
• ABC - "Poison Arrow"
• A Flock of Seagulls - "I Ran (So Far Away)"
• Psychedelic Furs - "Love My Way"
• Animotion - "Obsession"
• Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
• Thomas Dolby - "Hyperactive!"
• Romeo Void - "Never Say Never"

DJ:Fernando Martinez
Genre:Power ballads
Tracklist:

• Foreigner - "Waiting For A Girl Like You"
• Kate Bush - "Wow"
• Squeeze - "Tempted"
• REO Speedwagon - "Keep On Loving You"
• Cutting Crew - "(I Just) Died In Your Arms"
• Roxy Music - "More Than This"
• Toto - "Africa"
• Mr. Mister - "Broken Wings"
• John Waite - "Missing You"
• Jan Hammer - "Crockett's Theme"
• Night Ranger - "Sister Christian"
• Luther Vandross - "Never Too Much"

DJ: Toni
Genre: Pop music
Tracklist:

• Hall & Oates - "Out of Touch"
• Wang Chung - "Dance Hall Days"
• Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
• Laura Branigan - "Self Control"
• Go West - "Call Me"
• INXS - "Kiss the Dirt (Falling Down the Mountain)"
• Bryan Adams - "Run to You"
• Electric Light Orchestra - "Four Little Diamonds"
• Yes - "Owner of a Lonely Heart"
• The Buggles - "Video Killed the Radio Star"
• Aneka - "Japanese Boy"
• Talk Talk - "Life's What You Make It"
• The Outfield - "Your Love"
• Joe Jackson - "Steppin' Out"
• Lionel Richie - "Running With The Night"

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Soundtrack continued

DJ:Oliver "Ladykiller" Biscuit
Genre: Disco, Soul, R&B
Tracklist:

• The Whispers - "And the Beat Goes On"
• Fat Larry's Band - "Act Like You Know"
• Oliver Cheatham - "Get Down Saturday Night"
• Pointer Sisters - "Automatic"
• René & Angela - "I'll Be Good"
• Mary Jane Girls - "All Night Long"
• Rick James - "Ghetto Life"
• Michael Jackson - "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
• Evelyn King - "Shame"
• Teena Marie - "Behind the Groove"
• Mtume - "Juicy Fruit"
• Kool & the Gang - "Summer Madness"
• Indeep - "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life"
  

• KCHAT with Amy: Part 1
• KCHAT with Amy: Part 2
• KCHAT with Amy: Part 3
• KCHAT with Amy: Part 4
• KCHAT with Amy: Part 5

DJ: The Funktipus
Genre: Funk
Tracklist:

• Zapp - "I Can Make You Dance"
• Kool & the Gang - "Hollywood Swingin'"
• Ohio Players - "Love Rollercoaster"
• Ohio Players - "Funky Worm"
• Rick James - "Cold Blooded"
• Maze - "Twilight"
• Fatback Band - "Yum Yum (Gimme Some)"
• The Isley Brothers - "Between The Sheets"
• Ronnie Hudson & The Street People - "West Coast Poplock"
• Lakeside - "Fantastic Voyage"
• George Clinton - "Loopzilla"
• Dazz Band - "Let It Whip"
• Cameo - "Candy"
• MFSB - "Love Is The Message"
• Johnny Harris - "Odyssey"
• Roy Ayers - "Running Away"
• Gap Band - "You Dropped A Bomb On Me"

DJ: Forth Right MC
Genre: Hip-hop
Tracklist:

• Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - "Road To The Riches"
• Big Daddy Kane - "Warm It Up, Kane"
• Spoonie Gee - "The Godfather"
• Masta Ace - "Me & The Biz"
• Slick Rick - "Children's Story"
• Public Enemy - "Rebel Without A Pause"
• Eric B. & Rakim - "I Know You Got Soul"
• Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock - "It Takes Two"
• Gang Starr - "B.Y.S."
• Biz Markie - "The Vapors"
• Brand Nubian - "Brand Nubian"
• Ultramagnetic MCs - "Critical Beatdown"

DJ: Julio G
Genre: West Coast hip hop, Gangsta rap
Tracklist: (language warning + mature content)

• 2Pac (feat. Pogo) - "I Don't Give a ****"
• Compton's Most Wanted - "Hood Took Me Under"
• Dr. Dre (feat. Snoop Dogg) - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang"
• Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg - "Deep Cover"
• Too Short - "The Ghetto"
• N.W.A. - "Alwayz Into Somethin'"
• N.W.A. - "Express Yourself"
• Ice Cube - "It Was A Good Day"
• Ice Cube (feat. Das EFX) - "Check Yo Self (Message Remix)"
• Kid Frost - "La Raza"
• Cypress Hill - "How I Could Just Kill a Man"
• Eazy-E - "Eazy-Er Said Than Dunn"
• Above The Law - "Murder Rap"
• Da Lench Mob - "Guerillas in tha Mist"
• The D.O.C. - "It's Funky Enough"

DJ: Johnny "The Love Giant" Parkinson
Genre: Groove, New Wave
Tracklist:

• Lyn Collins - "Rock Me Again and Again"
• Bob James - "Nautilus"
• Harlem Underground Band - "Smokin' Cheeba Cheeba"
• Lyn Collins - "Think (About It)"
• The Blackbyrds - "Rock Creek Park"
• War - "Low Rider"
• The J.B.'s - "The Grunt"
• Maceo & The Macks - "Soul Power '74"
• James Brown - "Funky President"
• Gloria Jones - "Tainted Love"
• Booker T. & the M.G.'s - "Green Onions"
• The Chakachas - "Jungle Fever"
• Maceo & The Macks - "Cross The Tracks (We Better Go Back)"
• Bobby Byrd - "I Know You Got Soul"
• James Brown - "The Payback"
• Bobby Byrd - "Hot Pants"
• Charles Wright & the Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band - "Express Yourself"
• Sir Joe Quarterman & Free Soul - "So Much Trouble In My Mind"

DJ: Phillip "PM" Michaels
Genre:New Jack Swing
Tracklist:

• SWV - "I'm So Into You"
• Soul II Soul - "Keep on Movin'"
• Samuelle - "So You Like What You See"
• En Vogue - "My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)"
• Johnny Gill - "Rub You the Right Way"
• Ralph Tresvant - "Sensitivity"
• Guy - "Groove Me"
• Aaron Hall - "Don't Be Afraid"
• Boyz II Men - "Motownphilly"
• Bell Biv DeVoe - "Poison"
• Today - "I Got the Feeling"
• Bobby Brown - "Don't Be Cruel"

DJ: Marshall Peters and Johnny Lawton
Genre: Dub, Reggae
Tracklist:

• Blood Sisters - "Ring My Bell"
• Shabba Ranks - "Wicked Inna Bed"
• Buju Banton - "Batty Rider"
• Augustus Pablo - "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown"
• Dennis Brown - "Revolution"
• Willie Williams - "Armagideon Time"
• I-Roy - "Sidewalk Killer"
• Toots & the Maytals - "Funky Kingston"
• Dillinger - "Cocaine In My Brain"
• Pliers - "Bam Bam"
• Barrington Levy - "Here I Come"
• Reggie Stepper - "Drum Pan Sound"
• Black Uhuru - "Great Train Robbery"
• Max Romeo & The Upsetters - "I Chase The Devil"
• Toots and The Maytals - "Pressure Drop"

DJ: Tommy "The Nightmare" Smith
Genre:****c Rock
Tracklist:

• Foghat - "Slow Ride"
• Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Green River"
• Heart - "Barracuda"
• Kiss - "Strutter"
• Toto - "Hold the Line"
• Rod Stewart - "Young Turks"
• Tom Petty - "Runnin' Down a Dream"
• Joe Cocker - "Woman to Woman"
• Cream - "White Room"
• Humble Pie - "Get Down To It"
• Grand Funk Railroad - "Some Kind of Wonderful"
• Lynyrd Skynyrd - "Free Bird"
• America - "A Horse With No Name"
• The Who - "Eminence Front"
• Boston - "Smokin'
• David Bowie - "Somebody Up There Likes Me"
• Eddie Money - "Two Tickets to Paradise"
• Billy Idol - "White Wedding"

DJ: Sage
Genre:Alternative Rock / Heavy Metal
Tracklist:

• Helmet - "Unsung"
• Depeche Mode - "Personal Jesus"
• Faith No More - "Midlife Crisis"
• Danzig - "Mother"
• Living Colour - "Cult of Personality"
• Primal Scream - "Movin' On Up"
• Guns N' Roses - "Welcome to the Jungle"
• L7 - "Pretend We're Dead"
• Ozzy Osbourne - "Hellraiser"
• Soundgarden - "Rusty Cage"
• Rage Against the Machine - "Killing in the Name"
• Jane's Addiction - "Been Caught Stealing"
• The Stone Roses - "Fools Gold"
• Alice in Chains - "Them Bones"
• Stone Temple Pilots - "Plush"

DJ: Lianne Forget
Genre: Talk Show
Tracklist:

• WCTR: Area 53
• WCTR: I Say/You Say
• WCTR: Entertaining America
• WCTR: News

I've only ever played GTA as a quick 'kill everyone" game for half and hour or so. then its gets boring.

is the story worth a damn?

I've only ever played GTA as a quick 'kill everyone" game for half and hour or so. then its gets boring.

is the story worth a damn?

JPOBS

Yes.

GTA Vice City, especially, has an incredible storyline and if people play the game and actually play the missions, you'll get into the story and most likely enjoy it.

R* have remained mainly tight-lipped about GTAIV but we should expect another fantastic storyline. It will supposedly be more realistic than the past entries.

Nice work so far, keep it updated and work on it some more ;)Rob_101

What else do you think I should add? A "Latest News" section perhaps?

Nice thread. I see you putting your heart in this one. Sadly, I do not like GTA. Great soundtrack, but gameplay is boring. I just wanted to compliment you on your thread. Good job.

hey, nice thread. great job! :Dsummer_star17x

anyone know the soundtrack for this one?

[QUOTE="summer_star17x"]hey, nice thread. great job! :Dkool-aids

anyone know the soundtrack for this one?

Nothing official yet.

Here's a brief overview.

I read somewhere that they want to put "Hollaback girl" by Gwen in there... lol. Hopefully they don't.

Thanks for all the nice comments. What else do you guys think I should add? I'll put the Liberty City map in the OP with a spoiler tag I think...

Very Best, you want to let me borrow some money for that Special Edition?

Nice job, here.
EmilioDigsIt

lol, I know... $150 bucks, insane. But it's GTA... and if GTA's taught us anything, it's that we should rob a bank and then go buy the special edition.

Thanks for all the nice comments. What else do you guys think I should add? I'll put the Liberty City map in the OP with a spoiler tag I think...

[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]Very Best, you want to let me borrow some money for that Special Edition?

Nice job, here.
the-very-best

lol, I know... $150 bucks, insane. But it's GTA... and if GTA's taught us anything, it's that we should rob a bank and then go buy the special edition.

Or hold up the store and steal it from the back.

I heard that there wont be tanks. Is this true?dragon_master11

Yeah, there's no tanks, but it's being replaced by something better according to R* that they have yet to unveil.

Thanks for all the nice comments. What else do you guys think I should add? I'll put the Liberty City map in the OP with a spoiler tag I think...

[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]Very Best, you want to let me borrow some money for that Special Edition?

Nice job, here.
the-very-best

lol, I know... $150 bucks, insane. But it's GTA... and if GTA's taught us anything, it's that we should rob a bank and then go buy the special edition.

Hey, I've noticed the SE was changed to $89.99 on Gamestop...

http://www.gamestop.com/search.asp?Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ntt=gta&N=0

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

I've only ever played GTA as a quick 'kill everyone" game for half and hour or so. then its gets boring.

is the story worth a damn?

the-very-best

Yes.

GTA Vice City, especially, has an incredible storyline and if people play the game and actually play the missions, you'll get into the story and most likely enjoy it.

R* have remained mainly tight-lipped about GTAIV but we should expect another fantastic storyline. It will supposedly be more realistic than the past entries.

Nice work so far, keep it updated and work on it some more ;)Rob_101

What else do you think I should add? A "Latest News" section perhaps?

A latest news section at the top of the thread would be good to keep people updated. Also maybe a "rumour" section. Its up to you, your thread man :P

:lol: ****ing awesome!

Now my Metal Gear thread has a buddy.

Hey, we should make a link to each other's thread....cross-marketing :P

Hey, I've noticed the SE was changed to $89.99 on Gamestop...

http://www.gamestop.com/search.asp?Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ntt=gta&N=0

BioShockOwnz

It's always been $89 in the US... the $150 I mentioned was for Australia, lol.

Thanks for the link, are there gonna be custom soundtracks in the ps3 version?kool-aids

The 360 version definitely has custom soundtracks.

It hasn't been announced yet if the PS3 version does.

:lol: ****ing awesome!

Now my Metal Gear thread has a buddy.

Hey, we should make a link to each other's thread....cross-marketing :P

fuzzysquash

Your thread inspired me to do this one!

And good idea, I have no problem with bringing the hype up for MGSIV in my GTA thread...I'll add a link in, lol.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

:lol: ****ing awesome!

Now my Metal Gear thread has a buddy.

Hey, we should make a link to each other's thread....cross-marketing :P

the-very-best

Your thread inspired me to do this one!

And good idea, I have no problem with bringing the hype up for MGSIV in my GTA thread...I'll add a link in, lol.

This is perfect timing b/c I was actually thinking of doing one for GTA IV, but then I thought that I don't want to ruin the story or characters for myself by doing the research, so I held off.

Your thread and my thread should make good mates, though :D

Added a "latest news" section which has yet to be updated thanks to a HMTL error telling me to **** off.

This is perfect timing b/c I was actually thinking of doing one for GTA IV, but then I thought that I don't want to ruin the story or characters for myself by doing the research, so I held off.

Your thread and my thread should make good mates, though :D

fuzzysquash

lol, definitely.

Added the link, copying your "check it out"... I'm so original.

Btw, you should post your thread in the 360 & PS3 boards too. A lot of people on those boards don't come to SW, and they'd appreciate it.

I put my MGS4 one on the PS3 board already.

Btw, you should post your thread in the 360 & PS3 boards too. A lot of people on those boards don't come to SW, and they'd appreciate it.

I put my MGS4 one on the PS3 board already.

fuzzysquash

Good idea.

Hey, how did you put those lines under each section? Like, under your picture in the MGSIV thread, you've got a big line that seperates it to the "check it out" section, then you've got another big line sepearting the "latest news" section... no idea what I'm talking about? :P

Yeah, it's GTA IV. Yeah, it's gunna kick ass.

BTW, wasn't there supposed to be new trailer with gameplay sometime?

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

Btw, you should post your thread in the 360 & PS3 boards too. A lot of people on those boards don't come to SW, and they'd appreciate it.

I put my MGS4 one on the PS3 board already.

the-very-best

Good idea.

Hey, how did you put those lines under each section? Like, under your picture in the MGSIV thread, you've got a big line that seperates it to the "check it out" section, then you've got another big line sepearting the "latest news" section... no idea what I'm talking about? :P

lol, yeah I do.

When you go into the page to edit your post, there is a little icon that looks like a blue bar located right under the "font family" option.

If you put your mouse over it, it says "horizontal rule." If you insert it before a word, it'll place a bar over the top of that sentence.

Yeah, it's GTA IV. Yeah, it's gunna kick ass.

BTW, wasn't there supposed to be new trailer with gameplay sometime?

Bansheesdie

March 29 I believe.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

Btw, you should post your thread in the 360 & PS3 boards too. A lot of people on those boards don't come to SW, and they'd appreciate it.

I put my MGS4 one on the PS3 board already.

fuzzysquash

Good idea.

Hey, how did you put those lines under each section? Like, under your picture in the MGSIV thread, you've got a big line that seperates it to the "check it out" section, then you've got another big line sepearting the "latest news" section... no idea what I'm talking about? :P

lol, yeah I do.

When you go into the page to edit your post, there is a little icon that looks like a blue bar located right under the "font family" option.

If you put your mouse over it, it says "horizontal rule." If you insert it before a word, it'll place a bar over the top of that sentence.

Weird... I don't have that option. This is GS though so I'm not that surprised. :P

Weird... I don't have that option. This is GS though so I'm not that surprised. :P

the-very-best

Really?

It's kinda hard to spot...I circled it below. Do you have that icon?

(the Niko picture is complimentary)

The aiming system is screwed, give me a reticule all the time like saints row or i aint even gonna bother buying it....

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Weird... I don't have that option. This is GS though so I'm not that surprised. :P

fuzzysquash

Really?

It's kinda hard to spot...I circled it below. Do you have that icon?

(the Niko picture is complimentary)

LOL. :lol: Nice picture.

Yeah, I actually don't have that whole second line. Only got 2 lines, your top and bottom one. The middle one is missing. lol, doesn't matter. I'll try and seperate my thread with pictures or something. :P

Thanks anyway.

The aiming system is screwed, give me a reticule all the time like saints row or i aint even gonna bother buying it....

birdman2111

No, it's been completely redesigned for GTAIV. It's got a Gears/Uncharted style aiming/cover system now.

Best on 360 am confirmedJiveT

lol, I knew you'd say that. I'm going with the PS3 version simply cause the controller's better for GTAIV imo. I'll have access to the DC no doubt thanks to one of my mates... but it doesn't mean to much to me, and graphics-wise, I trust R* when they say they're identical. I don't think there will be major differences. It'll be minor like for Burnout or AC.

Great thread! I just pre-ordered the $150AU edition, it looked too good to pass up.

For the HTML error, cut the text/pics you want to edit your post with into Notepad, then cut it out of Notepad and put it in your post. That way there is no extra lines of HTML messing up your post.

Great thread! I just pre-ordered the $150AU edition, it looked too good to pass up.

For the HTML error, cut the thing you want to edit your post with into Notepad, then cut it out of Notepad and put it in your post. That way there is no extra lines of HTML messing up your post.

KrazyKenKutarag

Thanks for the tip, I'll try that out now.

I'm preordering it tomorrow. I can't pass up the SE either...looks sweet. :D

Am I the only one who thinks the special edition is dumb? I mean, unless you're in need of a duffel bag and a safety deposit box, then I'm sure it's a sweet deal.

[QUOTE="dragon_master11"]I heard that there wont be tanks. Is this true?the-very-best

Yeah, there's no tanks, but it's being replaced by something better according to R* that they have yet to unveil.

I'm seriously hoping for the return of the bicycle.

[QUOTE="birdman2111"]

The aiming system is screwed, give me a reticule all the time like saints row or i aint even gonna bother buying it....

the-very-best

No, it's been completely redesigned for GTAIV. It's got a Gears/Uncharted style aiming/cover system now.

Best on 360 am confirmedJiveT

lol, I knew you'd say that. I'm going with the PS3 version simply cause the controller's better for GTAIV imo. I'll have access to the DC no doubt thanks to one of my mates... but it doesn't mean to much to me, and graphics-wise, I trust R* when they say they're identical. I don't think there will be major differences. It'll be minor like for Burnout or AC.

From Gamespot:

"The controls have evolved once again for this outing, with subtle changes made to the locking system; targeting is handled on the left trigger, and it automatically locks on to the closest enemy in sight. If you fire with the right trigger, you'll shoot at the body of your enemy, but this is nonfatal and it can take more than a few shots to bring your opponent down. However, flick the right analogue stick upward and you'll aim for the head, where it's one shot to kill. Though this takes more dexterity to pull off, it's worth attempting if you want to take successive enemies out in one fell swoop."

Its still auto aim, sound more like the crackdown aiming system. I want Saints Row style cos auto aim is too easy...

As for "Gears of war cover":

"It's not quite Gears of War in terms of run-and-gun action, but using cover does let you consider your targets from safety before popping out to fire, or even blind firing if you're in real trouble. You can also hold "A" to run between cover, and though it's not done to the same extreme as in John Woo's Stranglehold, you'll see enemies pulling off slides and rolls as they move between cover."

Basically they are saying it is inferior to other 3rd person shooters on the 360. Its time for GTA to step it up because the sand box novelty has well and truly worn out.

From Gamespot:

"The controls have evolved once again for this outing, with subtle changes made to the locking system; targeting is handled on the left trigger, and it automatically locks on to the closest enemy in sight. If you fire with the right trigger, you'll shoot at the body of your enemy, but this is nonfatal and it can take more than a few shots to bring your opponent down. However, flick the right analogue stick upward and you'll aim for the head, where it's one shot to kill. Though this takes more dexterity to pull off, it's worth attempting if you want to take successive enemies out in one fell swoop."

Its still auto aim, sound more like the crackdown aiming system. I want Saints Row style cos auto aim is too easy...

As for "Gears of war cover":

"It's not quite Gears of War in terms of run-and-gun action, but using cover does let you consider your targets from safety before popping out to fire, or even blind firing if you're in real trouble. You can also hold "A" to run between cover, and though it's not done to the same extreme as in John Woo's Stranglehold, you'll see enemies pulling off slides and rolls as they move between cover."

Basically they are saying it is inferior to other 3rd person shooters on the 360. Its time for GTA to step it up because the sand box novelty has well and truly worn out.

birdman2111

They're saying they didn't copy Gears exactly... I don't see how that makes it inferior. Rockstar have acknowledged that most fans hated the aiming system in SA and have commented that it's been improved. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if the improvement is good enough.

I'm seriously hoping for the return of the bicycle.
InsaneBasura

Hasn't been confirmed from memory, but I don't see why they wouldn't include it.