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#1 lordlors
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I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

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#4 ganon546
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That's system wars for ya lol
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#5 -GhostMLD-
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I used to be a sheep.

Now i cant speak for all Wii haters but I left Nintendo consoles because I wasnt ready to go motion control when I am still comfortable with gamepads. Plus Wii's library isnt as M as the competition. I like M games personally.......

Thats my reason.

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#6 insanejedi
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Who's up for some Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3, and Metal Gear Solid 2 for the PC. It has better hardware so it must be superior!
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#7 Bigboi500
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Hating any console or system isn't very bright to begin with. I pity them.
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#8 MickeyTheNinja
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I dont hate the Wii, it just got boring and all it did was sit there. So I sold it to my friends parents (not joking)
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#10 BreakingPoint8
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The true irony is that Wii defenders may very well force me into becoming a Wii hater, a sad fate indeed. I can't stand it when people defend their console by bashing the others.
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#11 x_SuperMario_x
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Hating any console or system isn't very bright to begin with. I pity them.Bigboi500

agreed.

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#12 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]Who's up for some Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3, and Metal Gear Solid 2 for the PC. It has better hardware so it must be superior!lordlors

umm there are already mods for RE4 to make it look better what's more those games you mentioned are Japanese games. Japanese games are rare on PCs but it appears to me that this gen *** devs are starting to dev for PC better.

DMC 4 PC anyone?

My point is specs=/=superior version.

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#13 x_SuperMario_x
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The true irony is that Wii defenders may very well force me into becoming a Wii hater, a sad fate indeed. I can't stand it when people defend their console by bashing the others.BreakingPoint8

Most Wii defenders don't bash other consoles, at least I don't. I'm constantly defending Nintendo, and still support other consoles. But then I think sheep have always had a little more class.

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#14 lordlors
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[QUOTE="lordlors"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]Who's up for some Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3, and Metal Gear Solid 2 for the PC. It has better hardware so it must be superior!insanejedi

umm there are already mods for RE4 to make it look better what's more those games you mentioned are Japanese games. Japanese games are rare on PCs but it appears to me that this gen *** devs are starting to dev for PC better.

DMC 4 PC anyone?

My point is specs=/=superior version.

say that to the wii haters. for them it's specs==superior version. do you know they constantly bash wii hardware and because wii hardware sucks for them wii games also suck.

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#15 epic_pets
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well pc owners dont brag about their graphics so console users dont use what wii defenders say

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[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="lordlors"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]Who's up for some Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3, and Metal Gear Solid 2 for the PC. It has better hardware so it must be superior!lordlors

umm there are already mods for RE4 to make it look better what's more those games you mentioned are Japanese games. Japanese games are rare on PCs but it appears to me that this gen *** devs are starting to dev for PC better.

DMC 4 PC anyone?

My point is specs=/=superior version.

say that to the wii haters. for them it's specs==superior version. do you know they constantly bash wii hardware and because wii hardware sucks for them wii games also suck.

Specs only measure potential for a games graphics and programming. However there is a point where thats the max you can pull out a system. Wii haters are right to say that the Wii has very little or even no potential in the field of graphics, AI, and all that other stuff. However the wii has potential, not to have higher gameplay potential, but different gameplay potential.

To Hermits, Lemmings, and Sheep that hate the wii for it's specs. Specs=/=Better gameplay*

To sheep. Different controller=/=Better Gameplay*

* There are some cases where Specs and a different controller can equal better gameplay, however they do not directly link it to a AAA every time.

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#17 Samurai_Xavier
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I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

lordlors

No one even bashes the Wii for its hardware anymore. It mainly gets bashed for its lineup.

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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]Who's up for some Resident Evil 4, Devil May Cry 3, and Metal Gear Solid 2 for the PC. It has better hardware so it must be superior!lordlors

umm there are already mods for RE4 to make it look better what's more those games you mentioned are Japanese games. Japanese games are rare on PCs but it appears to me that this gen *** devs are starting to dev for PC better.

DMC 4 PC anyone?

It has less to do with the power of the console and more to do with the content of the games. Also, while a PC can be much more powerful then any console ( my gaming rig is aging and not much more powerful) the days of PC games flat out trumping the consoles are over. Save for MP gaming on a PC games like MGS4 are as good, if not better then any PC game I have played. But I did not finish Crysis because my PC could just not handle it.

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#19 dracula_16
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What you're doing is tryiung to figure something out with logic when you shouldn't be. There will always be hypocrites, so just sit back and laugh at 'em. I could post hypocrisy from all fanboy groups if I wanted.
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#20 velocity99
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Reason i don't want a wii is exactly that; i'd feel stuck in last-gen. All i really want is brawl, i could really care less for mini-game collections and galaxy. Brawl isn't enough to justify what's essentially a gamecube with motion sensing controls for $200 more than a normal gamecube. Not to mention, it's drowning in shovelware, the multiplats are horrific, and even though it's capable of decent graphics, 90% of the games look like crap. There. I still want one, just for brawl...
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#21 iamshivy
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um what,,, i think PC's suck and wii's. to me the wii is crap, PC, i dont want to spend over a grand to play the same games that i can on 360/ps3. so... i see no irony here, just someone trying to make fun of the people who think the wii is bad?
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#23 FB3
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I don't like it because I find the controls gimmicky and I personally prefer a standard controller like the Xbox 360's. It definitely hasn't moved the industry forward, though it isn't a bad console, and I'm glad I got it over the PoS3 anyways. (Sounds almost like another one who thinks an opinion can be correct, which is not really ironic, though it is an oxymoron.)
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#24 kokomos
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I own a PC and hate the Wii, mostly because it is garbage. I like the PC because I can do/play a lot of stuff, and no software isn't expensive because I can get everything a)free/open source or b)cheap.
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#25 haziqonfire
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Hater's in general need to die out. Enjoy consoles for the gaming experience you get. Who cares what brand it is or who makes the machine.
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#26 FerdMertz
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I dislike Nintendo because they are the Disney of video games. I like stuff like Gears of War, Dead Rising and Ninja Gaiden and the success of the Wii sends a message to developers that doesn't agree with my taste in games.
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#27 signore
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I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

lordlors

I like playing games from a comfy couch on my TV, not on a computer screen with a mouse/keyboard. I think the masses agree with me

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#28 mistervengeance
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so now you have to hide behind the pc to make the wii seem better?

seems a bit hypocritical to me.

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#29 ogvampire
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so now you have to hide behind the pc to make the wii seem better?

seems a bit hypocritical to me.

mistervengeance

he is using a hypocritical statement to point out other hypocritical statements. its what all the crazy kids are doing nowadays...

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#30 Ewok432
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lol @ all the people who say that the wii is "drowning in shovelware" or "doest have enough m games". i mean talk about reaching for reasons, do you have to play every game that is released?noo so why does it matter how many bad games are released as long as there are good games to play(trust me there is lots of great wii games.) and honestly if ur limiting ur gaming by a rating you need to rethink why you only play m games and realize that theres more to gaming then killing people.
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#31 Lazy_Boy88
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The Wii hardware amounts to a repackaged Gamecube. It's like a high end and low end graphics card from 6 years ago. Both are so outdated and worthless any difference is negligible.

Fact is at $250 the Wii is a ridiculous rip-off. Same for $50 low budget games and VC prives. If you're alright with it and accept that fact then whatever (I did and own a Wii) then go right ahead. But don't deny the facts or be delusional about getting ripped off. PS3/360 and especially a PC are a far far better value.

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#32 wiretoss
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What? :?JayPee89

He means: Lemmings/Cows bash the Wii because it's graphics are poor. Sheep retaliate with "We care about the games."

Then, when Hermits bash Lemmings/Cows because of their graphics are poor when compared to high end gsming PCs, Lemmings/Cows retaliate with "We care about the games."

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#33 wiretoss
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I own a PC and hate the Wii, mostly because it is garbage. I like the PC because I can do/play a lot of stuff, and no software isn't expensive because I can get everything a)free/open source or b)cheap. kokomos

I've noticed you make a lot of posts that are potentially bannable.

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#34 jethrovegas
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Wait, wait, wait, you mean people are still criticising the Wii for its visuals? I thought the community as a whole had moved on to its relative lack of quality 3rd party support a long time ago.
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#35 Philmon
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I call it the Goldilocks syndrome.
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#36 the1stfandb
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[QUOTE="lordlors"]

I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

signore

I like playing games from a comfy couch on my TV, not on a computer screen with a mouse/keyboard. I think the masses agree with me

You can do that with a pc.;)

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The gap between PC and consoles isn't huge. Sure, Crysis looks better than anything on consoles, I'm not debating that, but games like Uncharted, MGS4 ect. still look stunning. The Wii is different, its games look only slightly better than last gen, yet it is priced higher. It has nothing that even comes close to 360/PS3, yet in many cases the 360/PS3 can still compete with the PC, even though the PC will always be the best graphics wise.

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I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

lordlors

There's another reason for it being ironic aswell : MS and Sony are prepared to rip-off their ideas and use them in their own market growth. After all, PS3 already has a confirmed Motion-Sensing Controller and Home is a massively eye-candied Mii system coupled with a Second Life interface. 360 has a confirmed Avatar system and Motion-Sensing Controller is still a rumour.... Thats ironic aswell.

Coming from an Xbox owner.

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You have to realize laddy, that when the Xbox 360 first came out - it was the top-dog out there; however, it only takes a quarter, or mere months for that matter, for the PC gaming industry to strip it down. Even if the games run in a lower resolution - they still look fantastic. Simple evolution - PC gaming hardware will only get better as time progresses. The Xbox 360 and PS3 can perform fantastic visuals. They have every right to bash the Wii.

Hell, I see the Wii for what it is - a paperweight(or POS).

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#40 fishfake
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sheep and hermits are the only one who can life in harmony without flaming and bashing:P

and if someone saying he have a pc and hates the wii, we all know he is a lemming or cow ;)

for me hermits are the big brothers of the sheep and as reward hermits can use wii sales too bash the other 2 animals :lol:

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I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

lordlors

Not everyone games on a PC. Which is one of the reasons why they don't care about PC gaming or fancy gaming rigs. To them, PC gaming is irrelevant when comparing ONLY AMONG CONSOLES.

The only way to compare a high end PC to another platform (similar to it) would be an inferior PC.

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Reason i don't want a wii is exactly that; i'd feel stuck in last-gen. All i really want is brawl, i could really care less for mini-game collections and galaxy. Brawl isn't enough to justify what's essentially a gamecube with motion sensing controls for $200 more than a normal gamecube. Not to mention, it's drowning in shovelware, the multiplats are horrific, and even though it's capable of decent graphics, 90% of the games look like crap. There. I still want one, just for brawl...velocity99

You must not know much about the Wii hardware and what was and was not included on the GCN. I remember playing my Mario Kart Double Dash online with my friends, Melee with my friends, being able to download & play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and other games on my GameCube...I do remember having to have a memory card to save my games on my gamecube.I also remember EVERY GameCube game supporting my Widescreen TV. I mean, I remember that, so it must be true that the Wii is just a GameCubewith motion sensing, faster CPU, faster GPU, more ram, larger media, internal memory, online capabilitie, and widescreen support... Nintendo added all that to the Gamecube and made it smaller.. and for only $200 more than the Cube costs.

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[QUOTE="velocity99"]Reason i don't want a wii is exactly that; i'd feel stuck in last-gen. All i really want is brawl, i could really care less for mini-game collections and galaxy. Brawl isn't enough to justify what's essentially a gamecube with motion sensing controls for $200 more than a normal gamecube. Not to mention, it's drowning in shovelware, the multiplats are horrific, and even though it's capable of decent graphics, 90% of the games look like crap. There. I still want one, just for brawl...dotWithShoes

You must not know much about the Wii hardware and what was and was not included on the GCN. I remember playing my Mario Kart Double Dash online with my friends, Melee with my friends, being able to download & play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and other games on my GameCube...I do remember having to have a memory card to save my games on my gamecube.I also remember EVERY GameCube game supporting my Widescreen TV. I mean, I remember that, so it must be true that the Wii is just a GameCubewith motion sensing, faster CPU, faster GPU, more ram, larger media, internal memory, online capabilitie, and widescreen support... Nintendo added all that to the Gamecube and made it smaller.. and for only $200 more than the Cube costs.

Faster processor and GPU than the GC but less than half as good as what it standard today. But the GC had something the Wii doesn't... more than one or two good games.
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#44 ash10692
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Wii Haters don't have to buy the console. Problem solved.
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#45 dotWithShoes
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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

[QUOTE="velocity99"]Reason i don't want a wii is exactly that; i'd feel stuck in last-gen. All i really want is brawl, i could really care less for mini-game collections and galaxy. Brawl isn't enough to justify what's essentially a gamecube with motion sensing controls for $200 more than a normal gamecube. Not to mention, it's drowning in shovelware, the multiplats are horrific, and even though it's capable of decent graphics, 90% of the games look like crap. There. I still want one, just for brawl...-Sphere-

You must not know much about the Wii hardware and what was and was not included on the GCN. I remember playing my Mario Kart Double Dash online with my friends, Melee with my friends, being able to download & play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and other games on my GameCube...I do remember having to have a memory card to save my games on my gamecube.I also remember EVERY GameCube game supporting my Widescreen TV. I mean, I remember that, so it must be true that the Wii is just a GameCubewith motion sensing, faster CPU, faster GPU, more ram, larger media, internal memory, online capabilitie, and widescreen support... Nintendo added all that to the Gamecube and made it smaller.. and for only $200 more than the Cube costs.

Faster processor and GPU than the GC but less than half as good as what it standard today. But the GC had something the Wii doesn't... more than one or two good games.

Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

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Above message = OWNAGE
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#47 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

dotWithShoes

Granted I don't feel like joining a discussion which I was not involved in - but I have to give my two cents here, so please bare with me. :P

You listed a mere fourteen or fifteen titles by the looks of it - which is great and all, but within almost two years of launch - you can only name that many titles off the top of your head? Granted I can probably name 50+ titles for the Xbox 360 off the top of my head and god knows how many with the PC. Granted, you gave him an example and his closeminded attitude was clearly shut up and was shown in the right direction.

However, let's not hide behind the VC and backwards compatibility. This is the Wii's library we're talking about, not some rehash of old games we played many years ago. Again, considering only a mere 30% of titles score ABOVE 70% at Metacritic - that's not a lot of headroom to work with. I would rather have the console in which more than half of the games score above that.

But hey, we're all different. But the Wii's library, as a whole, is a laughing stock to me.

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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

Stevo_the_gamer

Granted I don't feel like joining a discussion which I was not involved in - but I have to give my two cents here, so please bare with me. :P

You listed a mere fourteen or fifteen titles by the looks of it - which is great and all, but within almost two years of launch - you can only name that many titles off the top of your head? Granted I can probably name 50+ titles for the Xbox 360 off the top of my head and god knows how many with the PC. Granted, you gave him an example and his closeminded attitude was clearly shut up and was shown in the right direction.

However, let's not hide behind the VC and backwards compatibility. This is the Wii's library we're talking about, not some rehash of old games we played many years ago. Again, considering only a mere 30% of titles score ABOVE 70% at Metacritic - that's not a lot of headroom to work with. I would rather have the console in which more than half of the games score above that.

But hey, we're all different. But the Wii's library, as a whole, is a laughing stock to me.

its closer to a little over 1 1/2 years since launch, not 2 years. there's a 5 month difference in your thinking... thats a considerable amount of time

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its closer to a little over 1 1/2 years since launch, not 2 years. there's a 5 month difference in your thinking... thats a considerable amount of time

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Meh - it's still getting closer to that two years mark. Close enough to me; hence why I said within almost. Doesn't make much of a difference, the Wii's library still doesn't hold much ground when compared to the other library's.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Hating any console or system isn't very bright to begin with. I pity them.iamshivy
you pity people who think different thing in life are crap... i pity the fool who thinks that

So you are calling him a fool for pitying haters? Wow I'm surprised you have not been modded for that.