The irony of Wii haters

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[QUOTE="velocity99"]Reason i don't want a wii is exactly that; i'd feel stuck in last-gen. All i really want is brawl, i could really care less for mini-game collections and galaxy. Brawl isn't enough to justify what's essentially a gamecube with motion sensing controls for $200 more than a normal gamecube. Not to mention, it's drowning in shovelware, the multiplats are horrific, and even though it's capable of decent graphics, 90% of the games look like crap. There. I still want one, just for brawl...dotWithShoes

You must not know much about the Wii hardware and what was and was not included on the GCN. I remember playing my Mario Kart Double Dash online with my friends, Melee with my friends, being able to download & play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and other games on my GameCube...I do remember having to have a memory card to save my games on my gamecube.I also remember EVERY GameCube game supporting my Widescreen TV. I mean, I remember that, so it must be true that the Wii is just a GameCubewith motion sensing, faster CPU, faster GPU, more ram, larger media, internal memory, online capabilitie, and widescreen support... Nintendo added all that to the Gamecube and made it smaller.. and for only $200 more than the Cube costs.

Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

No. Just No. Do you realise how many average titles you listed there? Granted, the Wii has had a large impact on the industry, but that doesn't automatically mean that it has AAAA/AAA games everywhere you turn.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

its closer to a little over 1 1/2 years since launch, not 2 years. there's a 5 month difference in your thinking... thats a considerable amount of time

Stevo_the_gamer

i hear what youre saying, but almost half a year is a significant amount of time nevertheless

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[QUOTE="velocity99"]Reason i don't want a wii is exactly that; i'd feel stuck in last-gen. All i really want is brawl, i could really care less for mini-game collections and galaxy. Brawl isn't enough to justify what's essentially a gamecube with motion sensing controls for $200 more than a normal gamecube. Not to mention, it's drowning in shovelware, the multiplats are horrific, and even though it's capable of decent graphics, 90% of the games look like crap. There. I still want one, just for brawl...KOTORkicker

You must not know much about the Wii hardware and what was and was not included on the GCN. I remember playing my Mario Kart Double Dash online with my friends, Melee with my friends, being able to download & play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and other games on my GameCube...I do remember having to have a memory card to save my games on my gamecube.I also remember EVERY GameCube game supporting my Widescreen TV. I mean, I remember that, so it must be true that the Wii is just a GameCubewith motion sensing, faster CPU, faster GPU, more ram, larger media, internal memory, online capabilitie, and widescreen support... Nintendo added all that to the Gamecube and made it smaller.. and for only $200 more than the Cube costs.

Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

No. Just No. Do you realise how many average titles you listed there? Granted, the Wii has had a large impact on the industry, but that doesn't automatically mean that it has AAAA/AAA games everywhere you turn.

I wonder, there are so many GC classics littered around, it's a shame that guys like me missed out on it, so yeah, the Wii is great if you want to play the classics you missed out as well as the classics that are being dismissed by those so called "hardcore gamers".

To the guy who posted why hermits and sheeps are able to coexsist in harmony, I think that they both have one thing in common that they can bash the other guys about, that they both have controllers that are much superior for shooters.

Average? 7.0 and above is now average? wow!Haziqonfire

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Average? 7.0 and above is now average? wow!Stevo_the_gamer

lol. so to you 'Good' means 'average' now

the percentages arent comparable to those of school grades.

even here at GS: an average or mediocre game is either 5.0 or 5.5

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]
Average? 7.0 and above is now average? wow!ogvampire

lol. so to you 'Good' means 'average' now

the percentages arent comparable to those of school grades.

even here at GS: an average or mediocre game is either 5.0 or 5.5

I don't hate the Wii, just disappointed a few months after I bought one at launch so it got sold so I could get more games for my other systems.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]
Average? 7.0 and above is now average? wow!Stevo_the_gamer

lol. so to you 'Good' means 'average' now

the percentages arent comparable to those of school grades.

even here at GS: an average or mediocre game is either 5.0 or 5.5

no, it "CANT"

mediocre = average

good = above average

you may want to crack open a dictionary once in a while

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Average? 7.0 and above is now average? wow!Stevo_the_gamer

no, it "CANT"

mediocre = average

good = above average

you may want to crack open a dictionary once in a while

ogvampire

For one, I wouldn't say a game which is mediocre... meaning inferior in terms of quality as average. You can do as you please, you're entitled to your own view as I am when it comes to mine. Some games which score a 7.0 are average, generic games. Fuzion Frenzy 2 for example, it's an average game - but received a 7.0 here.

6=C 7=B 8=A 9= A+, A++, 10=A+++

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Average? 7.0 and above is now average? wow!Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

no, it "CANT"

mediocre = average

good = above average

you may want to crack open a dictionary once in a while

Stevo_the_gamer

For one, I wouldn't say a game which is mediocre... meaning inferior in terms of quality as average. You can do as you please, you're entitled to your own view as I am when it comes to mine. Some games which score a 7.0 are average, generic games. Fuzion Frenzy 2 for example, it's an average game - but received a 7.0 here.

and did you notice that little word right under the number? i believe it says "good"

if those games are average, generic games, then they would have gotten less than a 7.0

you need to stop thinking that these percentages are comparable to school grades, its not like that

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

Stevo_the_gamer

Granted I don't feel like joining a discussion which I was not involved in - but I have to give my two cents here, so please bare with me. :P

You listed a mere fourteen or fifteen titles by the looks of it - which is great and all, but within almost two years of launch - you can only name that many titles off the top of your head? Granted I can probably name 50+ titles for the Xbox 360 off the top of my head and god knows how many with the PC. Granted, you gave him an example and his closeminded attitude was clearly shut up and was shown in the right direction.

However, let's not hide behind the VC and backwards compatibility. This is the Wii's library we're talking about, not some rehash of old games we played many years ago. Again, considering only a mere 30% of titles score ABOVE 70% at Metacritic - that's not a lot of headroom to work with. I would rather have the console in which more than half of the games score above that.

But hey, we're all different. But the Wii's library, as a whole, is a laughing stock to me.

Those Xbox 360 titles you can name off the top of your head are great, but remember.. It had a year headstart, and more developer support than the Wii has., Mainly because no one expected the Wii to sell as much as it did(honestly, did you think it would be this far ahaead EVER?).

No. Just No. Do you realise how many average titles you listed there? Granted, the Wii has had a large impact on the industry, but that doesn't automatically mean that it has AAAA/AAA games everywhere you turn.

KOTORkicker

OK so I listed what you believe to be average titles? 13 of those are AA or higher, AA/AAA are average games now? My personal opinion is that Zack and Wiki is a AAA game, as is MP3 and SPM. Besides, scores mean little to nohing, as I have enjoy many MANY 'average' games in my life.

and did you notice that little word right under the number? i believe it says "good"

if those games are average, generic games, then they would have gotten less than a 7.0

you need to stop thinking that these percentages are comparable to school grades, its not like that

ogvampire

Those Xbox 360 titles you can name off the top of your head are great, but remember.. It had a year headstart, and more developer support than the Wii has., Mainly because no one expected the Wii to sell as much as it did(honestly, did you think it would be this far ahaead EVER?).

dotWithShoes

Of course, but you also have to remember that even if you compare the Xbox 360s first year's numbers compared to the Wii numbers all the way up to NOW. It was still higher than what the Wii offers. Which is sad, IMO. It was quite the shocker to everyone to see the Wii sell that much. And developer support is still weak for the Wii - thank the hardware for that.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

and did you notice that little word right under the number? i believe it says "good"

if those games are average, generic games, then they would have gotten less than a 7.0

you need to stop thinking that these percentages are comparable to school grades, its not like that

Stevo_the_gamer

have you ever thought that those 'average elements' is what keeps a 7.0 rated game from being an 8.0 rated game?

halo 2 for Vista is such a bad example. it came out over 2 years later, no improvements, and it looked like crap. thats why it scored so low compared to its console counterpart

can you actually give me a good example of what youre talking about?

have you ever thought that those 'average elements' is what keeps a 7.0 rated game from being an 8.0 rated game?

halo 2 for Vista is such a bad example. it came out over 2 years later, no improvements, and it looked like crap. thats why it scored so low compared to its console counterpart

can you actually give me a good example of what youre talking about?

ogvampire

People who bash the Wii do so for one reason and one reason only: jealousy.Number_1_Gamer

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]People who bash the Wii do so for one reason and one reason only: jealousy.Haziqonfire

If they aren't jealous than they have no reason to bash it. What does it accomplish? I'd be jealous too if I were them.

People who bash the Wii do so for one reason and one reason only: jealousy.Number_1_Gamer

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]People who bash the Wii do so for one reason and one reason only: jealousy.Number_1_Gamer

If they aren't jealous than they have no reason to bash it. What does it accomplish? I'd be jealous too if I were them.

It still amazes me how much stock people put into a numerical value attached to a game based on the opinion of someone you probably have never met. Basicly this generation comes down to what do you want? If you know what it is that you will enjoy, then no matter what console you buy, you will enjoy it.chickenscratch

[QUOTE="chickenscratch"]It still amazes me how much stock people put into a numerical value attached to a game based on the opinion of someone you probably have never met. Basicly this generation comes down to what do you want? If you know what it is that you will enjoy, then no matter what console you buy, you will enjoy it.Stevo_the_gamer

Fast forward a couple of generations.

I see a lot of wii bashing particularly its hardware saying its last gen, utter crap, trash, etc. And i also see when there are comparison of PC and PS3/X360 these wii haters will say "I don't care." "It's expensive." "I care about games." and many many more. Oh the irony of wii haters.

They always bash the wii and yet their PS3/X360 hardware are so inferior to high end gaming PCs. What's more they use arguments or comments used by people defending the wii whenever their PS3s/X360s are compared to the superior hardware PCs.

lordlors

dunno what you said but it sounded important.

[QUOTE="chickenscratch"]It still amazes me how much stock people put into a numerical value attached to a game based on the opinion of someone you probably have never met. Basicly this generation comes down to what do you want? If you know what it is that you will enjoy, then no matter what console you buy, you will enjoy it.Stevo_the_gamer

I throughly enjoyed my Saturn.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

Said I wouldn't listen em elsewhere,guess I'll have to here.....

Only one or two good games eh? Lets see

Boom Blox, Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, SMG, MP3:C, No More Heros, Super Paper Mario, Okami, RE4, RE:UC, Zach & Wiki, Rayman 1&2, MLB Power Pro's, the Lego games, PES 2008, BWii 2... A large collection of quality VC and WiiWare titles, as wellas the entire GCN library...

Yeah, The Wii doesn't have more than one or two good games. Thats one thing the Wii has over the GCN, it has its great games, has the great games from the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, NEC, and every single one of those great games that you refer to on the GCN.

Stevo_the_gamer

Granted I don't feel like joining a discussion which I was not involved in - but I have to give my two cents here, so please bare with me. :P

You listed a mere fourteen or fifteen titles by the looks of it - which is great and all, but within almost two years of launch - you can only name that many titles off the top of your head? Granted I can probably name 50+ titles for the Xbox 360 off the top of my head and god knows how many with the PC. Granted, you gave him an example and his closeminded attitude was clearly shut up and was shown in the right direction.

However, let's not hide behind the VC and backwards compatibility. This is the Wii's library we're talking about, not some rehash of old games we played many years ago. Again, considering only a mere 30% of titles score ABOVE 70% at Metacritic - that's not a lot of headroom to work with. I would rather have the console in which more than half of the games score above that.

But hey, we're all different. But the Wii's library, as a whole, is a laughing stock to me.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

and did you notice that little word right under the number? i believe it says "good"

if those games are average, generic games, then they would have gotten less than a 7.0

you need to stop thinking that these percentages are comparable to school grades, its not like that

Stevo_the_gamer

You're confusing "Average" with "Generic". Generic is a measure of content, which is what you are describing. Average is a measure of quality. Halo, Twilight Princess, Gran Turismo, and Tiberium Wars were all "Generic", but you'd be crazy to call them "Average".

The Wii is even more behind the gaming PCs, I don't get how this is a good comeback at all.... I think it's closer to self-ownage. rolo107

*facepalm* Do you know what hypocracy means? He's pointing out that it's 360/PS3 fanboys bashing Wii for graphics or power are like your regular everyday Nerd bullying Trekkies for being too geeky.

well pc owners dont brag about their graphics so console users dont use what wii defenders say

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