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#51 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

How many people play shooters for story?

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Many and MANY! I for one love a story in depth with characters that make me want to beat through it..etc. Sad you feel that way...thats primary the issue with todays games..all MP and No story.

That's why he specified shooters, not games. There are many games with very good stories, a few with great stories. None of those games are FPS's.

While I agree that the story in most shooters are horrible, Cryostasis would like to have a word with you.

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#53 Ziek-AAT
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I honestly can't say I've ever played an FPS where I was emotionally drawn into the story and characters :?

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#54 Gibsonsg527
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Character development isn't KZ's problem. It's the lack of color that irks me.

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#55 Ilikemyname420
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I can sorta agree with the TC. While most FPS games don't really have well made storylines I can at least say that the storyline in just about any COD game blows Killzone's out of the water....and that's pretty pathetic when you stop and think about it.

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#56 tomarlyn
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The guns are the characters. Thats right you heard me :)
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#57 Upparoom
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The horrid character development...characters that NO ONE really gives 2 ****s about, there is NO attachtment to getting to know them or enjoy using them by the majority...and THIS imo is why killzone isn't considered BIG by many gamers..when compared to other shooters. Of course it relies on graphical immersion and realism..it's really a shame since Killzone delivers in all other aspect but that one.

Thoughts?

soapandbubbles

The problem with this argument is that most of the other popular shooters this gen have terrible character development(ex Mw2: this guy's Ghost and he's cool 'cause he has a cool mask). The average FPS gamer crowd doesn't care about story, just explosions and blood.

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#58 GreenGoblin2099
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Got 1 word for you TC: Rico.

Everybody cares about Rico... we all wonder if we'll get to kills him this time.

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#59 caseystryker
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[QUOTE="caseystryker"]

I agree witht he TC. Killzone 2 felt like a testosterone filled B grade sci-fi movie with horrible dialog and annoying characters. It looked good, though.

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Like 90% of FPSs this gen right?

True, but you've got to admit, KZ2 was a tad over the top. Besides, I'm not much of a FPS fan. The story has to be pretty entertaining to get me to play, though I'll admit I'm a sucker for COD multiplayer.

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#60 campzor
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i disagree.. i like sev & i really like the helghast characters (visari,radec...) I have no problem with the characters.
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#61 omho88
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I hate shallow stories, coz imo it affects the whole design of he game, when you look at NGS2, you will know what I mean, the game makers took the stupid story to make you visit many unrelated, non significant locations so the whole game was a mess, if KZ3 has the right Lv design, I dun think the shallow story will matter alot, though I dun mind a decent tale to justify my progress.

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#62 Bloodseeker23
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Character development isn't KZ's problem. It's the lack of color that irks me.

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Have you seen colorful wars lately? War is ugly, dirty, grim, and all about death. Thats why most war movies is filtered to grayscale.
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#63 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Character development isn't KZ's problem. It's the lack of color that irks me.

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Have you seen colorful wars lately? War is ugly, dirty, grim, and all about death. Thats why most war movies is filtered to grayscale.

Not all wars are brown though. Im pretty sure vietnam was green.
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#64 deactivated-6079d224de716
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The guns are the characters. Thats right you heard me :)tomarlyn

This gentleman speaks the truth. My StA-3 agrees.

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#65 youngmurk911
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]The reason why it wasn't considered big by many gamers was because of the controls. They solved that problem and now everyone will love it.waltefmoney

Prepare to be disappointed.

bold statement there
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#66 krayzieE99
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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

The horrid character development...characters that NO ONE really gives 2 ****s about, there is NO attachtment to getting to know them or enjoy using them by the majority...and THIS imo is why killzone isn't considered BIG by many gamers..when compared to other shooters. Of course it relies on graphical immersion and realism..it's really a shame since Killzone delivers in all other aspect but that one.

Thoughts?

cod has crap characters, but lots of pp, love that game.
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#67 krayzieE99
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]The reason why it wasn't considered big by many gamers was because of the controls. They solved that problem and now everyone will love it.waltefmoney

Prepare to be disappointed.

i was in the beta, the controls still suck.
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#68 Adamantium4k2
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[QUOTE="johny300"]Umm who cares? gameplay rules.Ironbash

Killzones gameplay has always been go through 14 million corridors, kill, take cover (1st person cover is really not that great), kill more , complete objective , move on. How does the gameplay 'rule' if its so generic? New snow and particle effects with spider-like jetpacks won't transform gameplay.

You just described 90% of all FPS:lol:

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#69 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="krayzieE99"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

The horrid character development...characters that NO ONE really gives 2 ****s about, there is NO attachtment to getting to know them or enjoy using them by the majority...and THIS imo is why killzone isn't considered BIG by many gamers..when compared to other shooters. Of course it relies on graphical immersion and realism..it's really a shame since Killzone delivers in all other aspect but that one.

Thoughts?

cod has crap characters, but lots of pp, love that game.

funny thing is, those games have more interesting stories/characters. they're told better too.
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#70 jerkface96
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its an action based first person shooter, they were never trying to go for the bioshock look. with the deep and immersive story.

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#71 Dead-Memories
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killzone always has had a terrible campaign; i doubt killzone 3 will change anything.

the only real merit in the game belongs to the multiplayer component

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#72 GrabTheYayo
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gamers play shooters for the multiplayer. thats why COD, Halo are the kings in the shooter genre. for killzone 3 to be up their too it need BIG improvments from KZ2.

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#73 Skittles_McGee
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Good thing big shooters like CoD and Gears have great character development.
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#74 johny300
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[QUOTE="johny300"]Umm who cares? gameplay rules.Ironbash

Killzones gameplay has always been go through 14 million corridors, kill, take cover (1st person cover is really not that great), kill more , complete objective , move on. How does the gameplay 'rule' if its so generic? New snow and particle effects with spider-like jetpacks won't transform gameplay.

Umm what and what is wrong with it? isn't that what you do in FPS games lol ? Kill and kill more, complete objective and move on you just describes most fps games which lots of people including me enjoy.
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#75 DethSkematik
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IDK, I liked Sev (I think that's the main character's name...haven't played that game in a long time :P). There really wasn't a character I didn't like except for the boss battles, which felt pretty underwhelming (shoot the Heavy in the back, keep firing rockets at that flying robot thing...). That's pretty much my only complaint with Killzone 2.
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#76 FIipMode
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That is true, but I don't look to video games for great stories and complex character development, that's pretty low on the list of requirements for a good game, there's been tons of games like SMG and LoZ that don't have a story and yet I enjoy them immensely.
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#77 UnrealLegend
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KZ2 did have boring Characters... except for Visari, who was amazing.

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#79 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="krayzieE99"][QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

The horrid character development...characters that NO ONE really gives 2 ****s about, there is NO attachtment to getting to know them or enjoy using them by the majority...and THIS imo is why killzone isn't considered BIG by many gamers..when compared to other shooters. Of course it relies on graphical immersion and realism..it's really a shame since Killzone delivers in all other aspect but that one.

Thoughts?

cod has crap characters, but lots of pp, love that game.

We could argue it has more to do with the multiplayer than the single player. Call of Duty 4's story wasn't that bad. It was actually pretty good and was at least coherent. Future games lost that coherency in favor of over the top "wow" moments and bizarre "rules of cool".

COD 4 was one of the only raw action FPS campaigns done right so far imo. it was great from beginning to end.
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#80 lockjaw333
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I think Killzone as a franchise is one of the more overrated games out there. It basically made a name for itself because of Killzone 2's graphics (which in my opinion, are really not that great)- very few people considered it relevant after the first game. So for me, there are a number of things that are lacking, including the nonexistent character development. Killzone is really a product of hype, and I think timing in the sense that Killzone 2 released just as the PS3 desperately needed a blockbuster game. The hype for Killzone 3 is out of control, and I'm sure the budget put into the game was absolutely huge, so its going to do great and sell. But if we're going to be critical, there is a lot that's lacking in Killzone's formula when you compare it to the classics like the Half Life series, old school Call of Duty, or the Halo series. Character development, story, excellent mutliplayer, and refined controls are just some of the areas that need work.
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#81 AmayaPapaya
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Normally I would disagree, but the characters in Killzone 2 were aweful to the point were I didn't want to be them at all. It seemed worse than the average shooter.

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#82 krayzieE99
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i think kz2 mp is trash, but as far as characters, i really did like radec and visari.