The Last of Us is an unprofitable trash core game *NO SPOILERS*

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I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have EVER played, and this is coming from a SONY-hater, so it must definitely be great.

The graphics demolish every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

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#2 speedfreak48t5p
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CallofDutyRulez? :lol: Yeah, get lost you filthy casual.

At least you're level 10 though.

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Naughty Dog had the money, Im sure Sony put some in it, but they aren't the sole provider here.  Naughty Dog has made a ton of money this gen.

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However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project?

CallOfDutyRulez

I couldn't find how much The Last of Us cost to develop - though I believe the average game development cost is ~20 million on the game alone then you have advertising and stock creation.

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#5 CallOfDutyRulez
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Naughty Dog had the money, Im sure Sony put some in it, but they aren't the sole provider here.  Naughty Dog has made a ton of money this gen.

Dilrod

So why is SONY only making $16 million in quarterly profits while Microsoft is making close to $500 million?

Microsoft uses the same IPs over and over again to lower development costs. SONY tries to fund great, innovative games that take up too much money and garner crap sales. How many times must it take for you cows to realize people want to be milked dry?

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Wut.Desmonic

This...

I read the OP and still couldn't believe it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if he has a tag like "CallofDutyRulez"

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I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have ever played. The graphics blow every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

CallOfDutyRulez

This world and industry in particular needs to stop neglecting art/innovation/quality for the sake of profit. Otherwise we'll just be swimmin' in crap like COD etc...

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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Wut.argetlam00

This...

I read the OP and still couldn't believe it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if he has a tag like "CallofDutyRulez"

Please regale us with the amazing profits SONY is making with their playstation. Oh that's right, microsoft is making multiple times SONY's profits. Games like the Last of Us are UNSUSTAINABLE. The gaming industry is not what it was 10 years back. Development costs need to be lowered in order to sustain profits.

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#10 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have ever played. The graphics blow every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

V3rciS

This world and industry in particular needs to stop neglecting art/innovation/quality for the sake of profit. Otherwise we'll just be swimmin' in crap like COD etc...

And why is this bad? In fact, if every developer did this, development costs would spiral downward and the entire gaming industry would become more profitable. There would be no more bankruptcy and financial issues with studios.

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Call of Duty rules.

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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have ever played. The graphics blow every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

CallOfDutyRulez

This world and industry in particular needs to stop neglecting art/innovation/quality for the sake of profit. Otherwise we'll just be swimmin' in crap like COD etc...

And why is this bad? In fact, if every developer did this, development costs would spiral downward and the entire gaming industry would become more profitable. There would be no more bankruptcy and financial issues with studios.

I'm not sure why I'm still replying to this thread. So according to you 'profit>quality' ? This is sick and you're a disgrace to humanity.

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#13 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

This world and industry in particular needs to stop neglecting art/innovation/quality for the sake of profit. Otherwise we'll just be swimmin' in crap like COD etc...

V3rciS

And why is this bad? In fact, if every developer did this, development costs would spiral downward and the entire gaming industry would become more profitable. There would be no more bankruptcy and financial issues with studios.

I'm not sure why I'm still replying to this thread. So according to you 'profit>quality' ? This is sick and you're a disgrace to humanity.

Excuse-me, but from the looks of it, I'm the one who actually gives a damn about the gaming industry. You cows are all about free stuff/cheap high-quality stuff. In fact, I bet you would want to see the entire gaming industry collapse so long as you get to play your precious innovative games.

IT

IS

UNSUSTAINABLE

Get it through your cow skull.

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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Wut.CallOfDutyRulez

This...

I read the OP and still couldn't believe it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if he has a tag like "CallofDutyRulez"

Please regale us with the amazing profits SONY is making with their playstation. Oh that's right, microsoft is making multiple times SONY's profits. Games like the Last of Us are UNSUSTAINABLE. The gaming industry is not what it was 10 years back. Development costs need to be lowered in order to sustain profits.

Why are you capitalizing every letter in Sony's name?

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#16 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

This...

I read the OP and still couldn't believe it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if he has a tag like "CallofDutyRulez"

argetlam00

Please regale us with the amazing profits SONY is making with their playstation. Oh that's right, microsoft is making multiple times SONY's profits. Games like the Last of Us are UNSUSTAINABLE. The gaming industry is not what it was 10 years back. Development costs need to be lowered in order to sustain profits.

Why are you capitalizing every letter in Sony's name?

What's the matter? Can't find holes in my argument so you resort to how I spell SONY? Pathetic. Go back to your field, cow.

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#17 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Please regale us with the amazing profits SONY is making with their playstation. Oh that's right, microsoft is making multiple times SONY's profits. Games like the Last of Us are UNSUSTAINABLE. The gaming industry is not what it was 10 years back. Development costs need to be lowered in order to sustain profits.

CallOfDutyRulez

Why are you capitalizing every letter in Sony's name?

What's the matter? Can't find holes in my argument so you resort to how I spell SONY? Pathetic. Go back to your field, cow.

You have to have a credible argument for people to respond to you. I just want to incite rage and flame out of you because it entertains me.

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#18 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Why are you capitalizing every letter in Sony's name?

argetlam00

What's the matter? Can't find holes in my argument so you resort to how I spell SONY? Pathetic. Go back to your field, cow.

You have to have a credible argument for people to respond to you. I just want to incite rage and flame out of you because it entertains me.

It is a credible argument. Did you not know about how square enix can't recoup the costs for tomb raider even after 3+ million sales? They damn well admitted it. Soaring development costs are a huge problem in the gaming industry and the only people denying it are you cows.

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#19 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

And why is this bad? In fact, if every developer did this, development costs would spiral downward and the entire gaming industry would become more profitable. There would be no more bankruptcy and financial issues with studios.

CallOfDutyRulez

I'm not sure why I'm still replying to this thread. So according to you 'profit>quality' ? This is sick and you're a disgrace to humanity.

Excuse-me, but from the looks of it, I'm the one who actually gives a damn about the gaming industry. You cows are all about free stuff/cheap high-quality stuff. In fact, I bet you would want to see the entire gaming industry collapse so long as you get to play your precious innovative games.

IT

IS

UNSUSTAINABLE

Get it through your cow skull.


So we need tons of COD for this industry to survive. It's like saying the movie industry should be filled with blockbuster shit movies. Besides you caring too much about how much money poor Microsoft/Activision or EA are earning. Dude do not worry, they won't starve thanks to morons like you that buy their crap year after year.
Comprehend the following... games just like music, books, movies, paintings etc... are artistic creations. You want to kill that part? Well... before you do that, first kill yourself, you might save the world this way.   

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#20 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

What's the matter? Can't find holes in my argument so you resort to how I spell SONY? Pathetic. Go back to your field, cow.

CallOfDutyRulez

You have to have a credible argument for people to respond to you. I just want to incite rage and flame out of you because it entertains me.

It is a credible argument. Did you not know about how square enix can't recoup the costs for tomb raider even after 3+ million sales? They damn well admitted it. Soaring development costs are a huge problem in the gaming industry and the only people denying it are you cows.

I'll make sure to give Naughty Dog a call and let them know I have an empty basement their employees can sleep in if they need shelter from the cold. Oh and btw, I don't think you understand the point of exclusives very well.

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#21 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

I'm not sure why I'm still replying to this thread. So according to you 'profit>quality' ? This is sick and you're a disgrace to humanity.

V3rciS

Excuse-me, but from the looks of it, I'm the one who actually gives a damn about the gaming industry. You cows are all about free stuff/cheap high-quality stuff. In fact, I bet you would want to see the entire gaming industry collapse so long as you get to play your precious innovative games.

IT

IS

UNSUSTAINABLE

Get it through your cow skull.


So we need tons of COD for this industry to survive. It's like saying the movie industry should be filled with blockbuster shit movies. Besides you caring too much about how much money poor Microsoft/Activision or EA are earning. Dude do not worry, they won't starve thanks to morons like you that buy their crap year after year.
Comprehend the following... games just like music, books, movies, paintings etc... are artistic creations. You want to kill that part? Well... before you do that, first kill yourself, you might save the world this way.   

Holy crap... Do you honestly think it takes $50,000,000 to write a f*cking book? There's a difference between writing a book and developing a game.

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#22 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Excuse-me, but from the looks of it, I'm the one who actually gives a damn about the gaming industry. You cows are all about free stuff/cheap high-quality stuff. In fact, I bet you would want to see the entire gaming industry collapse so long as you get to play your precious innovative games.

IT

IS

UNSUSTAINABLE

Get it through your cow skull.

CallOfDutyRulez


So we need tons of COD for this industry to survive. It's like saying the movie industry should be filled with blockbuster shit movies. Besides you caring too much about how much money poor Microsoft/Activision or EA are earning. Dude do not worry, they won't starve thanks to morons like you that buy their crap year after year.
Comprehend the following... games just like music, books, movies, paintings etc... are artistic creations. You want to kill that part? Well... before you do that, first kill yourself, you might save the world this way.   

Holy crap... Do you honestly think it takes $50,000,000 to write a f*cking book? There's a difference between writing a book and developing a game.

Do you honestly think you need to sell 10 million copies of every game to be profitable? Where is your evidence than Last of Us has failed in sales?

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#23 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Excuse-me, but from the looks of it, I'm the one who actually gives a damn about the gaming industry. You cows are all about free stuff/cheap high-quality stuff. In fact, I bet you would want to see the entire gaming industry collapse so long as you get to play your precious innovative games.

IT

IS

UNSUSTAINABLE

Get it through your cow skull.

CallOfDutyRulez


So we need tons of COD for this industry to survive. It's like saying the movie industry should be filled with blockbuster shit movies. Besides you caring too much about how much money poor Microsoft/Activision or EA are earning. Dude do not worry, they won't starve thanks to morons like you that buy their crap year after year.
Comprehend the following... games just like music, books, movies, paintings etc... are artistic creations. You want to kill that part? Well... before you do that, first kill yourself, you might save the world this way.   

Holy crap... Do you honestly think it takes $50,000,000 to write a f*cking book? There's a difference between writing a book and developing a game.

Oh man you're indeed a brain dead... was it due to COD? Admit it... cause I've seen other "Bros" with same symptoms.
-Cognitive thought is absent in this one *facepalm*

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#24 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]
So we need tons of COD for this industry to survive. It's like saying the movie industry should be filled with blockbuster shit movies. Besides you caring too much about how much money poor Microsoft/Activision or EA are earning. Dude do not worry, they won't starve thanks to morons like you that buy their crap year after year.
Comprehend the following... games just like music, books, movies, paintings etc... are artistic creations. You want to kill that part? Well... before you do that, first kill yourself, you might save the world this way.   

argetlam00

Holy crap... Do you honestly think it takes $50,000,000 to write a f*cking book? There's a difference between writing a book and developing a game.

Do you honestly think you need to sell 10 million copies of every game to be profitable?

For f*ck's sake, IT DEPENDS.

For something like Journey/indie titles, a few million would make them profitable. Halo and CoD as well, as the entire development procedure is just ctrl + c & ctrl + v.

However, for a game that's as good as the Last of Us. To make a game with those graphics. To develop a coherent, mature and engaging storyline. All of this and more would costs a crapton and would require 10+ million sales to break even.

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#25 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Holy crap... Do you honestly think it takes $50,000,000 to write a f*cking book? There's a difference between writing a book and developing a game.

CallOfDutyRulez

Do you honestly think you need to sell 10 million copies of every game to be profitable?

For f*ck's sake, IT DEPENDS.

For something like Journey/indie titles, a few million would make them profitable. Halo and CoD as well, as the entire development procedure is just ctrl + c & ctrl + v.

However, for a game that's as good as the Last of Us. To make a game with those graphics. To develop a coherent, mature and engaging storyline. All of this and more would costs a crapton and would require 10+ million sales to break even.


So you gonna teach Naughty Dog how to run business? A mighty warrior this one is.

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#26 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Holy crap... Do you honestly think it takes $50,000,000 to write a f*cking book? There's a difference between writing a book and developing a game.

CallOfDutyRulez

Do you honestly think you need to sell 10 million copies of every game to be profitable?

For f*ck's sake, IT DEPENDS.

For something like Journey/indie titles, a few million would make them profitable. Halo and CoD as well, as the entire development procedure is just ctrl + c & ctrl + v.

However, for a game that's as good as the Last of Us. To make a game with those graphics. To develop a coherent, mature and engaging storyline. All of this and more would costs a crapton and would require 10+ million sales to break even.

And then you ask why I'm not taking you seriously. You just make up your numbers and your facts and then pretend you know what you are talking about.

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Because we all know gaming should be about money.

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#30 argetlam00
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I'm out. You cows are retarded. Enjoy your games while the entire gaming industry burns thanks to your greedy parasites.

CallOfDutyRulez

There sure was a lot of name calling coming from you. I guess the only time you are comfortable in a debate is when it is at an emotional level.

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#31 Demonjoe93
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CallOfDutyRulez? lol, obvious troll.

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#32 V3rciS
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I'm out. You cows are retarded. Enjoy your games while the entire gaming industry burns thanks to your greedy parasites.

CallOfDutyRulez


Oh the irony...
Well I guess now that your trolling duty is done you're off to continue your mindless COD sessions, good job. Bye

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Uncharted engine. Calm down chimp

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I guess compared to COD any game is superb.

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#35 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Wut.CallOfDutyRulez

This...

I read the OP and still couldn't believe it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised if he has a tag like "CallofDutyRulez"

Please regale us with the amazing profits SONY is making with their playstation. Oh that's right, microsoft is making multiple times SONY's profits. Games like the Last of Us are UNSUSTAINABLE. The gaming industry is not what it was 10 years back. Development costs need to be lowered in order to sustain profits.

 

Eliminate the used game market.

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#36 clr84651
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The Last of Us is the greatest game I've ever played. Then MGS 3 & 4. 

I can't imagine how GS gave it an 8?! They must have some hidden reason for doing so. There is no way anyone could review this game lower than 9.5. Impossible!!!

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I heard COD Ghost is finally getting the highly awaited fish AI. Are you hyped?
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The Last of Us is the greatest game I've ever played. Then MGS 3 & 4. 

I can't imagine how GS gave it an 8?! They must have some hidden reason for doing so. There is no way anyone could review this game lower than 9.5. Impossible!!!

clr84651

:lol:

It's called having a different opinion.

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TC is unprofitable. Enjoy being suspended TC.

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#40 SchnabbleTab
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CallofDutyRulez? :lol: Yeah, get lost you filthy casual.

At least you're level 10 though.

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#41 shadiezz2012
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what the point of this topic TC ?? you are saying the Last of us is too good (which we know that already)

and then you go on saying it's not selling well

when in fact it's almost sold out every where and it's toping pre orders every where....and we still don't have the numbers sold for this game

and then you go on insulting ps3 owners what do you want ?!

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#42 LOXO7
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How many games did Sony publish this generation? Even if they didn't have the money, they could get money from a loan. The number of successful games they already published is evidence of their capabilities of paying back the loan and interest. When games barley make profit, it is of no consequence to us. We get to play great games. Any kind of positive profits are still growth. If these kinds of numbers are not good enough then maybe the creators should look at cutting their production expenses more so then their innovative ideas?
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#43 zeeshanhaider
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So innovation is bad now, great. :roll:

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#44 BPoole96
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Your posting gimmick sucks

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I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have EVER played, and this is coming from a SONY-hater, so it must definitely be great.

The graphics demolish every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

CallOfDutyRulez
Sad but true, I will be purchasing The Last of Us because of all the high praise it has received. But without killer Multiplayer 50 hour campaign or some crazy mod community, single player games are just not worth it. Most people resort to pirating single player games which is sad because gems like these deserve a lot more. For example myself I have clocked in more than 500 Hours of Battlefield 3 and have yet to touch the single player campaign, 500 hours for the game $60 plus Premium $50. Even though I paid $110 for this game, it is well worth it and DICE has certainly made their profits. But your right games like these barely make their profits, and because of this we have companies making countless CoD/BF clones and slapping tons of DLC on them.
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#46 MrGeezer
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This world and industry in particular needs to stop neglecting art/innovation/quality for the sake of profit. Otherwise we'll just be swimmin' in crap like COD etc...

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I'm all for innovation, but unfortunately profits have to be the #1 concern. If you aren't making profits then eventually you're gonna go out of business. And if you go out of business, you don't get to make ANY games. Personally, I don't have an issue with "trash" that only serves to make a profit. Not that it's always gonna happen, but at least in theory profits made off of "trash" can be used to make risky material a little bit more viable. It's like those really cheap and terrible "____ Movie" movies. Yeah, even the trailers for those things made me cringe, but I can't complain. At least for a while, they supposedly made mad profits because they were cheap as hell and a lot of dumbasses went to see them. I like to think that at least some of those profits went towards funding a slightly more risky movie that wasn't total crap. In any case, I don't think that profits really have to be inconsistent with "art" or "quality". One can make "great art" while still getting a profit. But at the end of the day, it's mostly about profits. It's better to be proud about one's job, but the most important thing is usually continuing to have a job.
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I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have EVER played, and this is coming from a SONY-hater, so it must definitely be great.

The graphics demolish every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

CallOfDutyRulez
It definitely won't sale worth a damn, dude. There must have been a glitch or something on Amazon, because it definitely wasn't higher than the Xbox One for a while. Yeah, it definitely won't turn a profit. No way in hell.
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#48 Praisedasun
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On the contrary,these are the games that keep the industry alive.

Innovation is always good.It forces more people to become gamers.

TC is definitely a troll.

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#49 ShaineTheNerd
Member since 2012 • 1578 Posts

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have ever played. The graphics blow every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

CallOfDutyRulez

This world and industry in particular needs to stop neglecting art/innovation/quality for the sake of profit. Otherwise we'll just be swimmin' in crap like COD etc...

And why is this bad? In fact, if every developer did this, development costs would spiral downward and the entire gaming industry would become more profitable. There would be no more bankruptcy and financial issues with studios.

You literally just lost all thought of me taking you seriously in any game related way. COD is fun online shooting little 13 year olds in the face, but COD and the way it is developed should never be the industry standard. COD is nothing more than a game built for casual players and people looking to play online for 15 minutes. It is taken and overlapped with new weapons and maps once a year so it can be advertised as a new game.
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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I've just played this game for around 11 hours and I can say that this game is probably the greatest game I have EVER played, and this is coming from a SONY-hater, so it must definitely be great.

The graphics demolish every xbox 360 exclusive's graphics combined 10 times over. The story is unrivaled by any of the immature, childish 360 exclusives (Gears of War lol...). The presentation is superb. The gameplay was surprisingly good.

However, when all is considered, you realize that a game of this magnitude must have taken quite a bit of money to produce. Where did SONY find the money to fund this project? How many sales will it get? Higher than Halo or CoD? I don't think so. At the end of the day, the Last of Us is barely gonna make a profit, and that's why innovative, great games like the Last of Us are unsustainable. They are cancerous to the gaming industry, as they encourage low-profit, creative game content that soak up money.

Deevoshun
Sad but true, I will be purchasing The Last of Us because of all the high praise it has received. But without killer Multiplayer 50 hour campaign or some crazy mod community, single player games are just not worth it. Most people resort to pirating single player games which is sad because gems like these deserve a lot more. For example myself I have clocked in more than 500 Hours of Battlefield 3 and have yet to touch the single player campaign, 500 hours for the game $60 plus Premium $50. Even though I paid $110 for this game, it is well worth it and DICE has certainly made their profits. But your right games like these barely make their profits, and because of this we have companies making countless CoD/BF clones and slapping tons of DLC on them.

The thing people seem to be forgetting in debates like this is that you are exchanging a nice long RPG like FF III or even FF VII with games like TLOU. In other words, the money that could have been thrown into a really long story is now being thrown at developing ultra realistic sweat. This is really sad, and the obvious reason why so many rpgs come to handhelds and even mobile devices over consoles. Just so much money to have to put into a 40 hour game when you are trying to render so much stuff on screen at once. Hopefully though, the game will sell a lot of units.