The Legend of Zelda, Nintendo Only Makes Masterpieces

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#151 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]Ocarina of Time: 99 Majora's Mask: 95 Windwaker: 96 Twilight Princess: 95 Skyward Sword: 93 With Zelda U coming out in the next few years, Nintendo is bound to create another Masterpiece. Will The Legend of Zelda continue to silver on all aspects or will Nintendo drop the ball with this one? DarkLink77
Wind Waker a masterpiece? Skyward Sword a masterpiece? Get the f*ck out.

Wind Waker is the best Zelda ever made and Skyward Sword is one of the best games relesaed this gen... You GTFO

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#152 King_Dodongo
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Well, the legendary fetch quest of WW was so bad I couldn't even finish the game (and I could beat Zelda II ) They better bring back the underrated horseback fighting (If this Zelda is on land this time) such wasted potential, the first time I fought in this fashion, I felt like I was in a LOTR battle lol.
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#153 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]Ocarina of Time: 99 Majora's Mask: 95 Windwaker: 96 Twilight Princess: 95 Skyward Sword: 93 With Zelda U coming out in the next few years, Nintendo is bound to create another Masterpiece. Will The Legend of Zelda continue to silver on all aspects or will Nintendo drop the ball with this one? Pikminmaniac

Wind Waker a masterpiece? Skyward Sword a masterpiece? Get the f*ck out.

Wind Waker is the best Zelda ever made and Skyward Sword is one of the best games relesaed this gen... You GTFO

Slight exaggeration,BIG exaggeration.

Did you play through THOUSANDS of games to be able to say that,Pikminmaniac?

Don't say overly illogical,stupid things,thank you.

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#154 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Wind Waker a masterpiece? Skyward Sword a masterpiece? Get the f*ck out. GreekGameManiac

Wind Waker is the best Zelda ever made and Skyward Sword is one of the best games relesaed this gen... You GTFO

Slight exaggeration,BIG exaggeration.

Did you play through THOUSANDS of games to be able to say that,Pikminmaniac?

Don't say overly illogical,stupid things,thank you.

Why are you so angry?

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#155 LittleMac19
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]Ocarina of Time: 99 Majora's Mask: 95 Windwaker: 96 Twilight Princess: 95 Skyward Sword: 93 With Zelda U coming out in the next few years, Nintendo is bound to create another Masterpiece. Will The Legend of Zelda continue to deliver on all aspects or will Nintendo drop the ball with this one?

Majoras Mask is a masterpiece, everything else? Hahahhahahahahahahahahahaha!
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#156 Wiimotefan
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I wonder if this will reverse the Zelda cycle. I've been seeing nothing but love for years when it comes to WW.

Now the haters are coming out from all over the place.

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#157 DarkLink77
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I wonder if this will reverse the Zelda cycle. I've been seeing nothing but love for years when it comes to WW.

Now the haters are coming out from all over the place.

Wiimotefan
Those of us who "hate" Wind Waker has always hated Wind Waker. We didn't come from anywhere. It's not like the game suddenly developed flaws it didn't have years ago.
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#158 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

I wonder if this will reverse the Zelda cycle. I've been seeing nothing but love for years when it comes to WW.

Now the haters are coming out from all over the place.

DarkLink77

Those of us who "hate" Wind Waker has always hated Wind Waker. We didn't come from anywhere. It's not like the game suddenly developed flaws it didn't have years ago.

I get that.

But after the initial WW hate died years back, you would see nothing but praise all the time and not many people coming around to oppose it.

Right now I'm seeing almost as much hate as when it first came out in 03. I dont even really care, but its just funny.

Makes me wonder, if SE remakes FFVI will it stop being so highly acclaimed?

These series cycles are always a trip, but I've never seen a Zelda go from sh*t, to amazing, to sh*t just like that lol

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#159 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

I wonder if this will reverse the Zelda cycle. I've been seeing nothing but love for years when it comes to WW.

Now the haters are coming out from all over the place.

Wiimotefan

Those of us who "hate" Wind Waker has always hated Wind Waker. We didn't come from anywhere. It's not like the game suddenly developed flaws it didn't have years ago.

I get that.

But after the initial WW hate died years back, you would see nothing but praise all the time and not many people coming around to oppose it.

Right now I'm seeing almost as much hate as when it first came out in 03. I dont even really care, but its just funny.

Makes me wonder, if SE remakes FFVI will it stop being so highly acclaimed?

These series cycles are always a trip, but I've never seen a Zelda go from sh*t, to amazing, to sh*t just like that lol

Zelda cycle, man. Zelda cycle. Proven to be true. The Final Fantasy fanbase is just dumb. There's really no other way around it. The Zelda fanbase is crazy predictable, though. Right now it's WW's turn to be the best ever. One day, it'll be Twilight Princess'. And I will be so happy.
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#161 Vaasman
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Skyward Sword, Phantom Hourglass, and Wand of Gamelon would all like a word with you.

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#162 chocolate1325
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I think that's harsh on the likes of Sony.Capcom,Konami and other developers like Bioware.

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#163 GreekGameManiac
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Skyway Sword, Phantom Hourglass, and Wand of Gamelon would all like a word with you.

Vaasman

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

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#164 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]Ocarina of Time: 99 Majora's Mask: 95 Windwaker: 96 Twilight Princess: 95 Skyward Sword: 93 With Zelda U coming out in the next few years, Nintendo is bound to create another Masterpiece. Will The Legend of Zelda continue to silver on all aspects or will Nintendo drop the ball with this one? DarkLink77
Wind Waker a masterpiece? Skyward Sword a masterpiece? Get the f*ck out.



OP, meet /thread.

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#165 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="RyanShazam"]Ocarina of Time: 99 Majora's Mask: 95 Windwaker: 96 Twilight Princess: 95 Skyward Sword: 93 With Zelda U coming out in the next few years, Nintendo is bound to create another Masterpiece. Will The Legend of Zelda continue to silver on all aspects or will Nintendo drop the ball with this one? DraugenCP

Wind Waker a masterpiece? Skyward Sword a masterpiece? Get the f*ck out.



OP, meet /thread.

The thread hasn't ended..
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#166 AznbkdX
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I do love the whole nostalgia bit determining how good these present games are. Maybe if you actually played said games you would see the quality of them.

I played enough of the current gen games and rarely do any of them beat out a Zelda game imo. You don't ride high on nostalgia when you are playing a game, and if you do you might want to get checked out cuz thats crazy talk. You only ride off it before it comes out since right then and there do you actually think of the game outside of the box and not nestled in your own game world, where you will most likely be annoyed of gaming inconsistencies not what they did to your precious franchise. Then after you can say if its good or ruining the series riding off of nostalgia right afterwards or if its really a departure, right between gaming bouts.

That may be the phase where some of you that have played the game are getting stuck on instead of telling yourself if its good on the sum of its parts alone.

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#167 RyanShazam
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I do love the whole nostalgia bit determining how good these present games are. Maybe if you actually played said games you would see the quality of them.

I played enough of the current gen games and rarely do any of them beat out a Zelda game imo. You don't ride high on nostalgia when you are playing a game, and if you do you might want to get checked out cuz thats crazy talk. You only ride off it before it comes out since right then and there do you actually think of the game outside of the box and not nestled in your own game world, where you will most likely be annoyed of gaming inconsistencies not what they did to your precious franchise. Then after you can say if its good or ruining the series riding off of nostalgia right afterwards or if its really a departure, right between gaming bouts.

That may be the phase where some of you that have played the game are getting stuck on instead of telling yourself if its good on the sum of its parts alone.

AznbkdX
How does nostalgia even work when determining the quality of a game? "Ohh I loved Ocarina of Time therefore every Zelda game after it is great"? If Nintendo released a bad Zelda game, as a fan of the series I would probably be the most vocal about not liking it.
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#168 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Skyway Sword, Phantom Hourglass, and Wand of Gamelon would all like a word with you.

GreekGameManiac

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

I can't even be bothered to play past the first dungeon, for starters. The controls were awful.

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#169 AznbkdX
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[QUOTE="AznbkdX"]

I do love the whole nostalgia bit determining how good these present games are. Maybe if you actually played said games you would see the quality of them.

I played enough of the current gen games and rarely do any of them beat out a Zelda game imo. You don't ride high on nostalgia when you are playing a game, and if you do you might want to get checked out cuz thats crazy talk. You only ride off it before it comes out since right then and there do you actually think of the game outside of the box and not nestled in your own game world, where you will most likely be annoyed of gaming inconsistencies not what they did to your precious franchise. Then after you can say if its good or ruining the series riding off of nostalgia right afterwards or if its really a departure, right between gaming bouts.

That may be the phase where some of you that have played the game are getting stuck on instead of telling yourself if its good on the sum of its parts alone.

RyanShazam

How does nostalgia even work when determining the quality of a game? "Ohh I loved Ocarina of Time therefore every Zelda game after it is great"? If Nintendo released a bad Zelda game, as a fan of the series I would probably be the most vocal about not liking it.

It doesn't in theory, which is what I tried to explain except on the opposite side of the spectrum to ppl who think its only based off of that.

Pre game issues (which is now with some of the ppl already coming out to say this) is what makes it readily apparent that most people don't even know what they actually think about when playing games, which is usually absolutely nothing in consequence. There is no way you are probably thinking to yourself "man, this game doesn't have this and that compared to Zelda, it sucks" unless its changed to a significant degree on its mechanics or core gameplay WHILE you are playing the game. Some sensible people actually think back to the game itself where you can clear up many of your issues with the game as a whole, hence the Zelda Cycle everyone tends to point to. This is where nostalgia would be kicked to the curb but it looks like it takes people awhile and ppl not likening to Zelda take advantage of the slower to adjust.

The Zelda Cycle theory is there only because people think more subjectively over time after the fact. Some however have not even stepped toward any kind of subjective thinking (or hate Ninty in general) which is why you have ppl that rag on nostalgia all the time.

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#170 ConanTheStoner  Online
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Skyway Sword, Phantom Hourglass, and Wand of Gamelon would all like a word with you.

Vaasman

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

I can't even be bothered to play past the first dungeon, for starters. The controls were awful.

Well that's a problem with you, not the game.

There are plenty of things not to like about SS, but the controls were outstanding.

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#171 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

ConanTheStoner

I can't even be bothered to play past the first dungeon, for starters. The controls were awful.

Well that's a problem with you, not the game.

There are plenty of things not to like about SS, but the controls were outstanding.

I liked the controls though I wouldn't say they were outstanding. rolling items could be a b*tch, Swimming could be awkward, playing the harp sucked. And while the combat and combat controls in Skyward Sword were great, swinging the sword wasn;t exactly 100% precise.

The controls overall worked but still could be wonky at moments.

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#172 Sphensen
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I would of prefered to see A Link To The Past remake instead of WW

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#173 DJ-Lafleur
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I would of prefered to see A Link To The Past remake instead of WW

Sphensen

ALttP remake with HD sprites, new content, and new dungeons?

I would be incredibly okay with that.

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#174 jake44
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[QUOTE="Sphensen"]

I would of prefered to see A Link To The Past remake instead of WW

DJ-Lafleur

ALttP remake with HD sprites, new content, and new dungeons?

I would be incredibly okay with that.

That'd just be the best thing ever...unless they botched it.
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#175 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

ConanTheStoner

I can't even be bothered to play past the first dungeon, for starters. The controls were awful.

Well that's a problem with you, not the game.

There are plenty of things not to like about SS, but the controls were outstanding.

I've played hundreds of games in my life and at no point has it ever been a user error when a game had bad controls. That argument isn't going to hold an ounce of weight with me.

I did exactly what the Wii told me, I left the black capture bar on top of the TV, I used Wii motion+, and I leveled my controller out on a flat surface. The sword capture wasn't accurate enough for every single fight to be designed around it, the bird, sailcloth, and the metal bug were all seriously clunky, and I had to constantly reset the positioning because the cursor kept losing it's alignment if I didn't hold the controller perfectly in position which you can't do because you have to swing it around.

Even if you don't think it's as busted as I do there is no way in hell this could be seen as an "outstanding" control scheme.

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#176 ArisShadows
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Lol hating on Wind Wakers..
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#177 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Skyway Sword, Phantom Hourglass, and Wand of Gamelon would all like a word with you.

Vaasman

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

I can't even be bothered to play past the first dungeon, for starters. The controls were awful.

I think u muzt be doing something wrong.....

VERY wrong.

Get over yourself.

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#178 IveDatedUrMom
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

What's your problem with Skyward Sword?

GreekGameManiac

I can't even be bothered to play past the first dungeon, for starters. The controls were awful.

I think u muzt be doing something wrong.....

VERY wrong.

Get over yourself.

Do you even know what you're saying? "Get over yourself" is not something you say to someone with a different preference. Stop insulting people, you bully.