The low Wii standards "argument" is obsolete. Lostwinds vs Braid [56k]

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#1 Tony-Harrison
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Lostwinds


AAAA 1 (Gamepro)
AAA 3 (Eurogamer)
AA 23 (IGN, 1UP, Gamesmaster, Official Nintendo Mag, Edge, etc etc)
A 2 (unknown magazines)
B 2 (unknown magazines)
Average: AA
Gamespot: 5.5

Braid

AAAA 9 (Giant Bomb, Eurogamer)
AAA 24 (Gamepro, Gameplanet, Gamedaily)
AA 6 (IGN, Xbox360 Magazine UK)
Average: AAA
Gamespot: 9.5

If Gamespot had double standards for Wii and Xbox360 games then they wouldn't have undercut every other review for Lostwinds whilst keeping above average for Braid.

Fanboys can stfu.

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#2 Ace132
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so..what?

i have no idea whats this topic about,all i know is that wii:

-sucks

-will never get a 10/10

-Its for grannies ONLY

thats it..

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#3 Tony-Harrison
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This topic is about shutting people up who say Gamespot has lower standards for Wii.

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#4 Ace132
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This topic is about shutting people up who say Gamespot has lower standards for Wii.

Tony-Harrison
bt isnt that true ?
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#5 insanejedi
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This topic is about shutting people up who say Gamespot has lower standards for Wii.

Tony-Harrison

And Audiosurf got undercut because of "teh high standards of teh PC" here we go agian...

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#6 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]This topic is about shutting people up who say Gamespot has lower standards for Wii.

Ace132

bt isnt that true ?

No.

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#7 opex07
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[QUOTE="Ace132"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]This topic is about shutting people up who say Gamespot has lower standards for Wii.

Tony-Harrison

bt isnt that true ?

No.

It would have to be true just due to the fact of the large difference in graphics, but comparing Wiiware and XBLA games isn't supporting your argument since both games are rated on a lower standard than full fledged games.

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#8 murat8
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so..what?

i have no idea whats this topic about,all i know is that wii:

-sucks

-will never get a 10/10

-Its for grannies ONLY

thats it..

Ace132
wow Ace i didnt know u hated the Wii:(
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#9 foxhound_fox
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What are you trying to prove... that Braid is a more highly acclaimed title?
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#10 Ace132
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[QUOTE="Ace132"]

so..what?

i have no idea whats this topic about,all i know is that wii:

-sucks

-will never get a 10/10

-Its for grannies ONLY

thats it..

murat8
wow Ace i didnt know u hated the Wii:(

O.o!!srrry about :| but this is system wars right?
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#11 murat8
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[QUOTE="murat8"][QUOTE="Ace132"]

so..what?

i have no idea whats this topic about,all i know is that wii:

-sucks

-will never get a 10/10

-Its for grannies ONLY

thats it..

Ace132
wow Ace i didnt know u hated the Wii:(

O.o!!srrry about :| but this is system wars right?

meh just surprised nice too cya here though
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#12 Kez1984
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-will never get a 10/10


.

Ace132

Perhaps here.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926632.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/915692.asp

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#13 Ace132
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[QUOTE="Ace132"]

-will never get a 10/10


.

Kez1984

Perhaps here.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926632.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/915692.asp

i ment from gamespot
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#14 lolkie_81
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That argument is weak, its a XBLA game. NMH is all the proof I will ever need to know the wii has lower standards.
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#15 murat8
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That argument is weak, its a XBLA game. NMH is all the proof I will ever need to know the wii has lower standards.lolkie_81
hay NMH was pure awesome
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#16 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That argument is weak, its a XBLA game. NMH is all the proof I will ever need to know the wii has lower standards.murat8
hay NMH was pure awesome

No More Heroes was waaaaay better than Perfect Dark Zero. Talk about double standards. :roll:

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#17 redmetal86
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hmm... it is kinda weird how an AA average game ends up with a 5.5. do we play the nostalgic references trap card next, or do we play eye of the beholder in defense mode?
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#18 Mochyc
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[QUOTE="murat8"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That argument is weak, its a XBLA game. NMH is all the proof I will ever need to know the wii has lower standards.Tony-Harrison

hay NMH was pure awesome

No More Heroes was waaaaay better than Perfect Dark Zero. Talk about double standards. :roll:

This, NMH is AA 8.0, and looks HORRIBLE on a HDTV.

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#19 murat8
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hmm... it is kinda weird how an AA average game ends up with a 5.5. do we play the nostalgic references trap card next, or do we play eye of the beholder in defense mode?redmetal86
was that a yu-gi-oh reference?
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#20 redmetal86
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was that a yu-gi-oh reference?murat8

yes. yes it was. :D

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#21 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="murat8"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]That argument is weak, its a XBLA game. NMH is all the proof I will ever need to know the wii has lower standards.Mochyc

hay NMH was pure awesome

No More Heroes was waaaaay better than Perfect Dark Zero. Talk about double standards. :roll:

This, NMH is AA 8.0, and looks HORRIBLE on a HDTV.

No More Heroes looks bad on any tv. It's not about graphics.

It's still an amazing game though.

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#22 murat8
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i cant argue that No More Heroes looks like crap it does but its so fun that it makes me not care
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#23 Tony-Harrison
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i cant argue that No More Heroes looks like crap it does but its so fun that it makes me not caremurat8

Some of the best Wii games have poor graphics. Zack & Wiki isn't exactly a looker either.

It just shows how much higher expectations are for Wii games to have impressive gameplay and not rely on graphics.

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#24 r_gam3
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double standards ftw.
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#25 lolkie_81
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i cant argue that No More Heroes looks like crap it does but its so fun that it makes me not caremurat8

To each there own, I didnt have fun with it, AAAAAAAAA swing remote in wild direction, it had arrows but any seemed to work. The only fun part was hitting the balls back. I gave it a shot but hated it. Maybe kids thought it was "cool" because your on a quest to get "laid". The game as a whole was lame.

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#26 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="murat8"]i cant argue that No More Heroes looks like crap it does but its so fun that it makes me not carelolkie_81

To each there own, I didnt have fun with it, AAAAAAAAA swing remote in wild direction, it had arrows but any seemed to work. The only fun part was hitting the balls back. I gave it a shot but hated it. Maybe kids thought it was "cool" because your on a quest to get "laid". The game as a whole was lame.

Play the game before you flame it next time. The controls work fine and the balls you mentioned was one of many minor gameplay elements.

You didn't give it a shot.

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#27 fabz_95
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so..what?

i have no idea whats this topic about,all i know is that wii:

-sucks

-will never get a 10/10

-Its for grannies ONLY

thats it..

Ace132

Oh god I don't think I've seen such a huge fanboy

At least I now know what to expect when I see your avatar

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#28 angelkimne
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Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

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#29 footfoe2
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[QUOTE="Ace132"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]This topic is about shutting people up who say Gamespot has lower standards for Wii.

Tony-Harrison

bt isnt that true ?

No.

yes
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#30 PC360Wii
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Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

angelkimne

This, I found this thread to be pointless and poorly thought out.

This proves nothing.

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#31 Tony-Harrison
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Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

angelkimne

How can Gamespot be above average on Braid and so below average on Lostwinds and yet people still say they favour the Wii?

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#32 tramp
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Is there any sheep left in SW? I thought those guys packed up ages ago.
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#33 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

PC360Wii

This, I found this thread to be pointless and poorly thought out.

This proves nothing.

Look at Gamespot scores vs Average scores. See how Gamespot AREN'T favouring the Wii?

Look. Gamespot doesn't review a game for the Wii, and think "Well that sucked, but it's on the Wii so I guess we should give it a decent score". That's just weak flamebait that needs to END.

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#34 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

Tony-Harrison

How can Gamespot be above average on Braid and so below average on Lostwinds and yet people still say they favour the Wii?

No one says they favour the Wii, just that they have lower standards for graphics. But when it comes to WiiWare and XBLA, graphics aren't much of a factor anyway.
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#35 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

Tony-Harrison

This, I found this thread to be pointless and poorly thought out.

This proves nothing.

Look at Gamespot scores vs Average scores. See how Gamespot AREN'T favouring the Wii?

Look. Gamespot doesn't review a game for the Wii, and think "Well that sucked, but it's on the Wii so I guess we should give it a decent score". That's just weak flamebait that needs to END.

Well for starters:

1) They have lower standards on GRAPHICS, is what people say.

2) Wiiware and XBLA games arereviewd on a completely different scale, thus this is pointless? it doesnt prove your point in the slightest.

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#36 fabz_95
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Is there any sheep left in SW? I thought those guys packed up ages ago. tramp

Nope we're still running wild, (although I don't consider myself a sheep, just a gamer who owns a wii but doesn't own a 360/PS3 as of yet)

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#37 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="murat8"]i cant argue that No More Heroes looks like crap it does but its so fun that it makes me not careTony-Harrison

To each there own, I didnt have fun with it, AAAAAAAAA swing remote in wild direction, it had arrows but any seemed to work. The only fun part was hitting the balls back. I gave it a shot but hated it. Maybe kids thought it was "cool" because your on a quest to get "laid". The game as a whole was lame.

Play the game before you flame it next time. The controls work fine and the balls you mentioned was one of many minor gameplay elements.

You didn't give it a shot.

Im not flaming, I rented the game and beat the first 2 bosses. Dont assume Im flaming, just because not everyone is on the wii wagon as hard as you are. Compared to the other games I have to play I didnt feel the need to waste time on NMH, even too human is more fun than that game. Unlike some people I have a wii/360/ps3. I have no need to lie or favor

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#39 SpinoRaptor
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You should play Braid.

You'll see why it got a 9.5

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#40 mistervengeance
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gamespot DOES have lower standards for the wii... it's obvious. how else could SMG have scored a 9.5 with minimal use of the wii mote and last gen graphics?
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#41 flazzle
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Lost Winds was awesome, AA to ay the least. the guy reviewing it was a douche.EuroMafia

Truth

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#42 osan0
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]Lost Winds was awesome, AA to ay the least. the guy reviewing it was a douche.flazzle

Truth

aye....the more important question here is how the hell lostwinds got a 5.5 here? its a great game imho. id give it an 8.

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gamespot DOES have lower standards for the wii... it's obvious. how else could SMG have scored a 9.5 with minimal use of the wii mote and last gen graphics?mistervengeance
because it's an awesome game that pushes it's respective genre forward :|

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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="murat8"]i cant argue that No More Heroes looks like crap it does but its so fun that it makes me not carelolkie_81

To each there own, I didnt have fun with it, AAAAAAAAA swing remote in wild direction, it had arrows but any seemed to work. The only fun part was hitting the balls back. I gave it a shot but hated it. Maybe kids thought it was "cool" because your on a quest to get "laid". The game as a whole was lame.

Play the game before you flame it next time. The controls work fine and the balls you mentioned was one of many minor gameplay elements.

You didn't give it a shot.

Im not flaming, I rented the game and beat the first 2 bosses. Dont assume Im flaming, just because not everyone is on the wii wagon as hard as you are. Compared to the other games I have to play I didnt feel the need to waste time on NMH, even too human is more fun than that game. Unlike some people I have a wii/360/ps3. I have no need to lie or favor

75% of nmhs awesomeness is plotline and beating the game

finish the game before you judge it

if you can't see what makes the game a work of art after that, despite the horrendous graphics, you're a lost cause

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#45 wannweed
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so..what?

i have no idea whats this topic about,all i know is that wii:

-sucks

-will never get a 10/10

-Its for everyone ONLY

thats it..

Ace132

wow a 10 out of 10 i have smg and i think it's better than gta4, and mgs4, and ssbb is just as good if not better

oh yea i fixed your post

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#46 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Or maybe people just think Braid is better than LostWinds ????

What is you're point.

Tony-Harrison

This, I found this thread to be pointless and poorly thought out.

This proves nothing.

Look at Gamespot scores vs Average scores. See how Gamespot AREN'T favouring the Wii?

Look. Gamespot doesn't review a game for the Wii, and think "Well that sucked, but it's on the Wii so I guess we should give it a decent score". That's just weak flamebait that needs to END.

Heres my answer for you, go play Braid, go finish it, then you'll know why it got a 9.5.

Braid is on a completly diffrent level than Lost Winds.

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#47 mistervengeance
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]gamespot DOES have lower standards for the wii... it's obvious. how else could SMG have scored a 9.5 with minimal use of the wii mote and last gen graphics?Shinobishyguy

because it's an awesome game that pushes it's respective genre forward :|

maybe you think so.. i found the 3d planet scheme annoying and silly and repetitive.

sure it innovated, but whether that innovation was a good thing is purely down to opinion.

but the facts are this game has last generation graphics, and barely uses the wiimote.

obviously this game had amazing gameplay, and that's why it scored so high, but if they didn't have lower standards, this game would be a lot lower becuase of the things it didn't have, like a story.

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#48 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]gamespot DOES have lower standards for the wii... it's obvious. how else could SMG have scored a 9.5 with minimal use of the wii mote and last gen graphics?mistervengeance

because it's an awesome game that pushes it's respective genre forward :|

maybe you think so.. i found the 3d planet scheme annoying and silly and repetitive.

sure it innovated, but whether that innovation was a good thing is purely down to opinion.

but the facts are this game has last generation graphics, and barely uses the wiimote.

obviously this game had amazing gameplay, and that's why it scored so high, but if they didn't have lower standards, this game would be a lot lower becuase of the things it didn't have, like a story.

it won GOTY over may ps3/360 titles.

That throws that whole entire "standards" argument out the window.

A good game is a good game no matter what console it's on.