@charizard1605 said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@nintendoboy16 said:
It goes beyond that. Remember their extremist censorship rules back then, seeing the result of games like the first Mortal Kombat and Wolfenstein 3D?
So, 'extremist censorship rules' (that they retracted as soon as ESRB went up, or did you forget Mortal Kombat II) is why the SNES is not Nintendo's golden years?
Nintendo may have retracted it (mostly, looking at you Metroid Prime 3 and Fire Emblem: Awakening), but that doesn't (at least, seems to) mean a whole lot if they did it before. By that point, the damage was done. Even the idiots at WatchMojo knows that was a major problem for their image.
Granted, it didn't phase me back then because I wasn't following game media during the SNES era (and I personally am glad that they stopped with the third party content), but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist now does it?
There was no censorship in Fire Emblem Awakening- there was a respect for local sensibilities for a specific market. Having what appear to be scantily clad underage girls (even though many of them are not underage in the game, it takes playing the game long enough to figure that out) might be acceptable in Japan, but is considered distasteful in the west. It was Nintendo being aware and respectful of local market conditions. Censorship would have been them removing the 'have children' mechanics, for example.
There was no damage done- the N64 was the home of hardcore, mature, action games, the cool local multiplayer console. The Gamecube was considered kiddy as ****. The PlayStation 2 was the 'cool' console. The PlayStation 3 was a joke, until the very end, when it pulled back.
There is no permanent image associated with anybody. Every generation is a reset. Every generation is a chance to rebuild. This holds true of everyone, including Nintendo. The problem is not with their image, it's with their often stubborn refusal to move and evolve. Just like your stubborn refusal to let go of this illusion that everyone in the world is out for Nintendo's blood and wants them to just fail already.
Yes, the N64 was CLEARLY the home for mature titles. That's why it had (not counting multiplats like Duke Nukem, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil 2, and Quake as they are also on the other system) Perfect Dark, Turok (which got ported to PC, nothing else), and Conker, which surely garnered more attention than the console that had Metal Gear, more Resident Evil games, Fear Effect, and Silent Hill... OH WAIT!
I know it was the go to console for (most) multiplayer games. Where else were gamers going to go for local four placer support in games like Goldeneye (the most known multiplayer game on the system), Mario Kart, Diddy Kong Racing, and Smash at the time? Wasn't ideal for fighting game fans though, that is where the PlayStation shined.
And like hell, the N64 wasn't considered kiddy. Not when Mario (platformer, karts, parties, golf, who cares) and Zelda still charted in the top ranks and other games like Donkey Kong 64, Banjo, Pokemon, and Smash joined them.
Okay, you're right. A new gen is supposed to be a time where things rebuild. Just too bad too many people didn't want that since Nintendo got exclusivity for... THAT F***ING GAME! (The game I backed exclusivity for, but am starting to have second thoughts and thinking all parties involved need to find a new partner just to shut everyone up, that game has been nothing but trouble).
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