The Most Consistent Developer. Who?

Rockstar, Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica

CD Projekt Red

Valve

Clover Studio (RIP)

Rockstar

Nintendo

Kojima Productions

Rocksteady

What's with all the people saying Bethesda? Their games are consistantly worse than the one that came before.

Rockstar, baby.

balfe1990

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Rockstar, baby.

bobbetybob

...so far Valve, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, and Bethesda. Bioware and Blizzard used to be on that list. 

...so far Valve, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, and Bethesda. Bioware and Blizzard used to be on that list. 

klusps

CD Projekt Red

Valve

Clover Studio (RIP)

Rockstar

Nintendo

Kojima Productions

Rocksteady

What's with all the people saying Bethesda? Their games are consistantly worse than the one that came before.

scoots9

Rocksteady

Valve, CD Projekt Red and Rocksteady would be my top picks.

[QUOTE="scoots9"]

CD Projekt Red

Valve

Clover Studio (RIP)

Rockstar

Nintendo

Kojima Productions

Rocksteady

What's with all the people saying Bethesda? Their games are consistantly worse than the one that came before.

Mcspanky37

Streamlined and made accessible and for the better. There was a lot of stupid crap in Morrowind that was made much smoother in Oblivion and then some in Skyrim that I highly take over Morrowind's system.

Rocksteady

Goyoshi12

Valve, CD Projekt Red and Rocksteady would be my top picks.

jm92590

Atlus, Rockstar, and Valve.

Streamlined and made accessible and for the better. There was a lot of stupid crap in Morrowind that was made much smoother in Oblivion and then some in Skyrim that I highly take over Morrowind's system.

Goyoshi12

level scaling, blunt axes

you=mad

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Rocksteady

Ravenshout

But they're CONSISTENT for those two games.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Streamlined and made accessible and for the better. There was a lot of stupid crap in Morrowind that was made much smoother in Oblivion and then some in Skyrim that I highly take over Morrowind's system.

N30F3N1X

level scaling, blunt axes

you=mad

I would be if I understood what you just said.

[QUOTE="klusps"]

...so far Valve, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, and Bethesda. Bioware and Blizzard used to be on that list. 

Ravenshout

[QUOTE="klusps"]

...so far Valve, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, and Bethesda. Bioware and Blizzard used to be on that list. 

Ravenshout

Um....individual opinions?

I would be if I understood what you just said.

Goyoshi12

The guy you quoted has made some excellent points in regard to Bethesda's trends. "Streamlined and made accessible" aren't for the better when you throw proper game design out of the window in the process, and for stupid reasons too.

Rockstar, baby.

balfe1990

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="scoots9"]

CD Projekt Red

Valve

Clover Studio (RIP)

Rockstar

Nintendo

Kojima Productions

Rocksteady

What's with all the people saying Bethesda? Their games are consistantly worse than the one that came before.

Goyoshi12

Streamlined and made accessible and for the better. There was a lot of stupid crap in Morrowind that was made much smoother in Oblivion and then some in Skyrim that I highly take over Morrowind's system.

With the addition of fast-travel/ too helpful HUD telling you where to go to the exact point. It feels like they are just making the game easier for lazy casuals that just want to jump into the action. Also taking away a good chunk of character customization and most the skills away doesn't make the game more accessible, it just makes it feel dumbed down.

Mcspanky37

Fast-travel is an option and a good one at that. The HUD is only helpful if you use it and again is a good addition at that since I could get so lost in Morrowind that it wasn't even funny and became an annoyance in Morrowind. Character customization? What was the character customization in Morrowind? Just a bunch of pre-set character designs and faces? Yeah...they took SO much away from THAT. The skills they took away probably weren't even useful for anything and were just there. I don't know the spells in particular but that's just me and besides taking away cumbersome skills doesn't mean dumbing down it means taking away what isn't necessary.

Fast-travel is an option and a good one at that. The HUD is only helpful if you use it and again is a good addition at that since I could get so lost in Morrowind that it wasn't even funny and became an annoyance in Morrowind. Character customization? What was the character customization in Morrowind? Just a bunch of pre-set character designs and faces? Yeah...they took SO much away from THAT. The skills they took away probably weren't even useful for anything and were just there. I don't know the spells in particular but that's just me and besides taking away cumbersome skills doesn't mean dumbing down it means taking away what isn't necessary.

Goyoshi12

Mercantile, speechcraft, athletics, acrobatics, sneak, hand to hand, do any of these ring a bell when talking of "weren't even useful for anything and were just there"? Nah, that can't be, none of these skills were actually cumbersome. They all added to the glory that was the extremely innovative levelling system Oblivion had.

:lol:

Rockstar, baby.

balfe1990

Ditto.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Fast-travel is an option and a good one at that. The HUD is only helpful if you use it and again is a good addition at that since I could get so lost in Morrowind that it wasn't even funny and became an annoyance in Morrowind. Character customization? What was the character customization in Morrowind? Just a bunch of pre-set character designs and faces? Yeah...they took SO much away from THAT. The skills they took away probably weren't even useful for anything and were just there. I don't know the spells in particular but that's just me and besides taking away cumbersome skills doesn't mean dumbing down it means taking away what isn't necessary.

N30F3N1X

Mercantile, speechcraft, athletics, acrobatics, sneak, hand to hand, do any of these ring a bell when talking of "weren't even useful for anything and were just there"? Nah, that can't be, none of these skills were actually cumbersome. They all added to the glory that was the extremely innovative levelling system Oblivion had.

:lol:

Um.....they're all in Oblivion, though.

Rockstar, baby.

balfe1990

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]With the addition of fast-travel/ too helpful HUD telling you where to go to the exact point. It feels like they are just making the game easier for lazy casuals that just want to jump into the action. Also taking away a good chunk of character customization and most the skills away doesn't make the game more accessible, it just makes it feel dumbed down.

Goyoshi12

Fast-travel is an option and a good one at that. The HUD is only helpful if you use it and again is a good addition at that since I could get so lost in Morrowind that it wasn't even funny and became an annoyance in Morrowind. Character customization? What was the character customization in Morrowind? Just a bunch of pre-set character designs and faces? Yeah...they took SO much away from THAT. The skills they took away probably weren't even useful for anything and were just there. I don't know the spells in particular but that's just me and besides taking away cumbersome skills doesn't mean dumbing down it means taking away what isn't necessary.

Rockstar

Ubisoft

Naughty Dog

Gurrilla Games

I was talking apparel wise your character is more customizable, and as for the lack of HUD in morrowind it made the game feel more realistic when you would instead take the directions from whom ever gave you your quest and actually search for where to go, I almost always found this system more fun and immersive as your actually doing real exploring and dont know where or what you could come across along the your journey. As for the skills I guess its not as bad as I made it out to be, at least in Oblivion, but my biggest pet-peeve with Skyrims skills was the lack of ATHLETICS! Which is absolutely ridiculous that everyone in the game world will run/walk the same exact speed, that really killed the immersion of Skyrim for me.Mcspanky37

Realism. Bethesda game. Wut.

I don't really see less customization options to your character as a detriment, really. It was just an aesthetic look that I didn't really care for through a majority of my time in Morrowind. I get what you're saying but there's only so much exploration with no knowledge on where to go that I can take before I rip my f*cking hair out and restart from a previous save. I liked Oblivion and Skyrim's smaller worlds a lot better, I still got an epic sweeping land to roam but much smaller and more consintrated instead of Morrowind's huge ass land that bored me and turned me away from the game. Shame about Skyirm, but, honestly, I never noticed people in Morrowind or Oblivion running faster than the others or slower than others; they all seemed consistant in their speeds.

Anyways, I don't really care about the running or walking speed for my immersion, for me the immersion I got was just strolling around the world looking at all the sights, listening to all the sounds in the world around me, happening across a small little village while they all go about their duties, and happening across a den of bandits or a pack of wolves and drawing out my glass longsword and getting into posisiton to attack and strike down my foolish opponent and drown my sorrows in the blood of my enemies whilst I feast on their Daedric hearts.

Maybe not that dramatic but still...I hope you catch my drift, here.

Naughty Dog.

Valve.

Rockstar.

Before Diablo 3 I would've said Blizzard.

[QUOTE="sHaDyCuBe321"]

I wouldnt say consistent, but based on track record and pure abundance of games - Nintendo EAD

ActicEdge

Nintendo EAD is good, I just don't feel like they've been under that banner long enough to qualify. Released 4 games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_Analysis_and_Development

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"]

I was talking apparel wise your character is more customizable, and as for the lack of HUD in morrowind it made the game feel more realistic when you would instead take the directions from whom ever gave you your quest and actually search for where to go, I almost always found this system more fun and immersive as your actually doing real exploring and dont know where or what you could come across along the your journey. As for the skills I guess its not as bad as I made it out to be, at least in Oblivion, but my biggest pet-peeve with Skyrims skills was the lack of ATHLETICS! Which is absolutely ridiculous that everyone in the game world will run/walk the same exact speed, that really killed the immersion of Skyrim for me.Goyoshi12

Realism. Bethesda game. Wut.

I don't really see less customization options to your character as a detriment, really. It was just an aesthetic look that I didn't really care for through a majority of my time in Morrowind. I get what you're saying but there's only so much exploration with no knowledge on where to go that I can take before I rip my f*cking hair out and restart from a previous save. I liked Oblivion and Skyrim's smaller worlds a lot better, I still got an epic sweeping land to roam but much smaller and more consintrated instead of Morrowind's huge ass land that bored me and turned me away from the game. Shame about Skyirm, but, honestly, I never noticed people in Morrowind or Oblivion running faster than the others or slower than others; they all seemed consistant in their speeds.

Anyways, I don't really care about the running or walking speed for my immersion, for me the immersion I got was just strolling around the world looking at all the sights, listening to all the sounds in the world around me, happening across a small little village while they all go about their duties, and happening across a den of bandits or a pack of wolves and drawing out my glass longsword and getting into posisiton to attack and strike down my foolish opponent and drown my sorrows in the blood of my enemies whilst I feast on their Daedric hearts.

Maybe not that dramatic but still...I hope you catch my drift, here.

Rockstar immediately jumps to mind. So many decent to great games one after the other.

I think we both can understand each others perspectives at least a little bit. I guess the main problem with our little debate tho is someone could see the consistency of developers work could mean different things to someone else as the TC didnt fully elaborate on what he meant by "Consistency of the developers work"

Mcspanky37

Yeah, plus, if one person likes all the games that one developer has put out then he could say himself that the developer is consistent while others say otherwise which then just turns this whole debate into opinions versus opinions yet again. Not that that's bad or anything given the recent revival of the System Wars of System Wars.

Retro Studios

Nintendo EAD

Hopefully Rocksteady keeps up their god tier streak

Easily nintendo

CD Projekt, Valve, Naughty Dog

Easily nintendo

way2funny

[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

Rocksteady

Goyoshi12

But they're CONSISTENT for those two games.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Ravenshout"] They have just made two games in ONE GENRE. Not yet to be assessed.

Evz0rz

But they're CONSISTENT for those two games.

Haven't played it but I've heard of it. Seemed to get decent reviews.