The most frustrating thing about Xbox

@oflow: "So why is it so hard to believe MS might actually be able to right their wrongs this gen?"

Because they are not doing anything for it. The PS3 started bad but by the 4th year it already had a great exclusives library and it only got better. Sony got their shit together and by the end of the end had a exclusives library better than the 360. What's there to look forward for the X1 4 years into this gen? Crackdown? Sea of Thieves? lmao, give me a break. MS is simply not even trying anymore. Lemmings like you trying to pretend this situation is similar to the situation last gen need a reality check.

@hrt_rulz01: Cows just can't stop talking about Xbox... incredibly strange. Seems like the old cow adage of "don't love my console, just hate yours" is 100% correct"

This has been the truth for years.

I see the lists of exclusives for PS all the time. 90% of them don't interest me so what good are they? Should I care just because of a meta avg of review scores for games that do not interest me?

@darkspineslayer: most of those franchises arent amazing. btw microsoft let the Blinx IP expire a few years ago so its up for grabs

yeah, but your agenda doesn't comprehend that some folks are not into these type of games.

Thus, they game on Xbox.. and some of us game on both PC/Xbox.

It would great for Microsoft to double (arbitrary guess) their investment with Rare, and expand their company to begin development on some of their IPs like the ones you listed. Perfect Dark, Conker, Kameo, Banjo, etc. I'm just glad Rare isn't focusing on the Kinect anymore.

@pinkanimal: Crackdown and Sea of Thieves may not interest you per se, but there are plenty of people that look forward to these games as well as State of Decay 2.

It's been a while but I see nothing has changed with you. You still post as if there is some objective, good/bad or intrinsic value assessment that happens to us in life. Entertainment and life doesn't work that way.

You post lmao when mentioning 2 upcoming games because you don't like the Xbox, as if anybody that does like these games next year are wrong for it.

I posted in the topic of this thread where several Xbox owners say they are frustrated at the lack of Xbox exclusives. I happen to agree that the Xbox lack of exclusives is a bad thing and that their few offers are pretty lackluster in comparison to the offers in other systems. So yeah I haven't changed my view on the Xbox as you haven't changed yours about everything being relative in which case I'm not sure why you come to SW since making every preference relative and devoid of arguments in favor or against basically renders this entire board senseless. Are you going to keep coming here just to tell people (cows actually) that their opinions are worthless for you because that seems to be all you do.

BTW oflow is comparing the PS3 comeback last gen to the Xbox this gen and I was pointing why his comparison doesn't make any sense. The PS3 not only delivered a constant flow of quality exclusives as a comeback a thing the X1 haven't done but it also caught up with the 360 in sales even with a year less so that says that people responded extremely well to their proposal. The X1 not only is lacking the constant flow of quality exclusives but also the enticing for new people to buy the machine since the gap keeps getting bigger not smaller. So there's really no comeback for the X1 as there was for the PS3.

@pinkanimal: I will continue to come here post the truth of the individualisticness of life and a persons preferences in entertainment, thank you for asking. I've been here over a decade and have never been told I cannot. It only seems to bother people like you, who seem hell bent on proving the things they personally like are superior. Well shit, I'll definitely keep pointing out the retardation of that mindset!

Well you seem bothered that people in SW do the stuff SW was made for so I guess you're going to be in a perpetual state of being bothered because you're not going to change the board by whining about what the board was made for.

Well you lemmings act like you are very bothered and whiny, specially you, you cry a lot. So if you are in denial that you are bothered then that's your problem, it will probably just make you whinier.

@kingtito: Lol so true, dude. No other faction makes petitions to game companies to NOT expand a game's potential audience. There is literally a world of evidence to this. Like what you like but allow and accept others the same.

This place is just entertainment to me. I like to pop in and see what's on the front page, I say hello to other old timers, PM a friend or two. I love pointing out ridiculousness also. "this is what SW is for!"

This forum allows exchange of opinion and that includes mine. If it bothers people tough crap.

The most frustrating thing about PS is that I only care about a handful of all those exclusives cows brag so much about ( which btw aren't published like every year ) so I have to fill the gap with multiplats which run better on Xbox.

It's not lems constantly posting about the X1X or MS in general. It's not lems crying for games to be held off another system that would be cows and YOU. You're entertainment kid, nothing more nothing less. I bet you stay up at night wondering if anyone has responded to you while you were away. I bet you throw dirty looks at anyone you suspect of owning a console not of the PS variety. If it appeals to me, I'll own. If the game looks like it'll be fun then I'll play it but YOU.....not so much.

That's the problem of you lemmings, you assume everyone has this weird devotion you guys have to your plastic gf. I mean no other fanboy faction takes abuse as you guys do and keep kissing MS's ass time and time again. That's why the nickname lemmings fit you so perfectly, you're mindless followers. I have no alliance to Sony other than the fact that they actually provide value by making a machine that delivers quality games that I can't find elsewhere. They invest in a strong first party and are in general concerned to keep the value of the PS4 relevant. The same with Nintendo, you can tell they care to make a difference in game offerings. Next to that the Xbox seems like a bad joke, no value whatsoever and a pathetic first party. The minute Sony or Nintendo stops providing their consoles with exclusive value and supporting a strong first party I would never touch their machines unlike you lemmings that will go down with the Xbox because you're infatuated with the machine to the point where it seems that people are attacking your mother everytime someone dares to tell the truth about it.

For sure just makes no sense to me. It's a hobby and something we all do for fun. Cows act like it's a way of life and they're getting paid to play only on a PS console.

@pinkanimal: Lol you just told us we assume you are all the same, then assumed we are all the same. I did miss you, Capt. hypocrite.

It's lems going into threads where people have valid criticism about the Xbox and going into whiny tantrums about it. Every single thread about the Xbox is filled with lemmings tears of you guys crying to people to leave your Xbox alone and that the whole industry is biased against your precious Xbox and what not. Whining, tears and tantrums, that's what lemmings have been reduced this gen. And no wonder you guys don't even make Xbox threads anymore, there's practically nothing to be hyped about this gen about the Xbox. That's why most of the threads are bashing or making fun of it because it's like a bad joke. You guys can't even defend your precious machine properly because frankly MS is not giving you much ammo, you just cry about it all the time.

@pinkanimal: Why would I need to defend what cannot be taken from me?

Well I'm referring to you two right now but I see the pattern in most lemmings here. All you do is cry and whine constantly. There's practically nothing else you do. Granted is not all lemmings everywhere. I mean recently, for example, there are Xbox fans that actually vocally complained to MS for the rip off that is Forza 7. Those guys have my respect and they don't even deserve the name lemmings, they are gamers and not blind followers who actually show some care towards the gaming industry. Meanwhile all I saw in the lemmings here in SW was the usual crying and whining because people were criticizing Forza in legitimate ways. Not one of the usual lemmings stepped up and said anything negative about the rip off, they just took it and tried to damage control it. And after Turn 10 stepped back due to real gamers complains then lemmings kept praising how pro-gaming Turn 10 was. Pffft... if it were for them nothing would have changed at all and they would have accepted the abuse happily like lemmings. Lemmings are ridiculous this gen.

You tell me because the whining is pretty constant.

Cows creating anti-MS or X1X bash threads does not make a valid criticism. They're biased as are you. The sole purpose of 90% of those threads are to bash and you know it.

Every single thread about Xbox created by a cow or someone with no intention of buying one. Why is that? Why create a thread when you have no intention of purchasing the product? Is it because they're living the Sony mantra "we hate your console more than we love our own"? Yeah I believe so

So are you saying cows having nothing to hype since they don't make threads about Sony consoles or games but instead they choose to write about the X1X? Yeah I'll let you ponder that question for a bit cow.

You can't have it both ways son. We're either going into every anti-MS thread defending or "crying" as you put it or we're not.

Long live your mantra "we hate your console more than we love our own" it seems to suit you well son.

@kingtito: "Cows creating anti-MS or X1X bash threads does not make a valid criticism"

Oh but it is, just because it makes you butthurt doesn't mean is invalid. Criticizing a machine or company with no exclusives, with a weak first party, that tries to rip off their customers on the few quality games they have, that doesn't make any strong efforts to strengthen their game lineup, who abandons practically all their new IPs at the first sign of trouble, who cancelled most of the interesting exclusive lineup they had, IS by all means worthy of criticism.

Why would people making fun or criticizing the Xbox for how pathetic it is should have the intention of buying one? When was SW about making threads about machines or games only that you have the intention of buying. If anything all this Xbox bashing threads will hopefully prevent others from buying it because MS doesn't deserve to sell well this machine. If a mediocre machine like the Xbox does well then the industry would be supporting mediocrity and lousy management practices and that's bad for gaming in general

@pinkanimal: How can that be? I don't remember the last time I was posting with you or this much in a day. That's right, you just exaggerate and make shit up too. I'm remembering now

Well you certainly weren't here criticizing Forza or Turn 10 because of what they delivered. So for me you're just one of the bunch who stayed quite. Like I said not ONE lemming here criticized Forza or Turn 10, the lemmings that said something said it for the usual whining and crying about others talking bad about Forza. So I wasn't making anything up because I was describing what happened here and it is accurate.

@pinkanimal: I don't play racing or fighting games for one so I wouldn't know. I also just don't come and post here much anymore. So how can I be constantly crying then?

All I see if whiny, cry whine cry because they're doing what YOU don't like. There are plenty of games on the X1 console but NOT on the PS4. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill kid.

You forgot IMO. Just because YOU don't like them doesn't mean others don't. I'm guessing you're having an issue distinguishing between fact and opinion. Doesn't surprise me though since you live by the "I hate your console more than I love mine".

And yet they continue to make threads about it hmmmm could it be to bash and without a valid reason? Wow sharp tool, bright bulb definitely doesn't describe you son.

Long before you came it was about having discussions against or for your console or system of choice. Blind bashing or trolling took skill but we still often met with a suspension or ban. Now it's just bashing because idiots like you live by that mantra "we hate your console more than we love our own". I know it's sad huh?

I'm sure you're sitting next to your computer hitting the refresh button every 2 seconds just waiting for my reply...sad....pathetic

Your crying came in this thread which just supports my observation that lemmings come here mostly to cry. I mean you say you don't come often but when you come is to cry about how mean people are being to Xbox...

@pinkanimal: When did I say you're being mean to Xbox? I pointed out that just because you don't care for two games like Crackdown and Sea of Thieves doesn't mean anything in reality. Man, you are all over the place tonight. Making ? up left, right and center.

@kingtito: "Just because YOU don't like them doesn't mean others don't"

Absolutely but the fact that the industry is giving much better reviews to games on other systems and normally mediocre or bad to Xbox games and the fact that the Xbox is not really selling that well tells me my perception of Xbox's pathetic state is somehow perceived in a pretty generalized way.

"bash and without a valid reason"

I gave you plenty of valid reasons above. I think you forgot how to read again, kiddo.

"having discussions against or for your console or system of choice"

Well it seems lemmings have changed that for crying because I never see them discussing anything anymore, all you guys do is cry and complain about how mean people are being towards your console. You're too sensitive. You can't have a worthy discussion when the other side has so much emotionally invested in the subject like you guys do. You just become irrational and nonsensical.

"I'm sure you're sitting next to your computer hitting the refresh button every 2 seconds just waiting for my reply...sad....pathetic"

hmmm... are you projecting right now?? lol Lemmings are the funniest when they start crying about things they do and pretend others do it. Most hypocritical fanboys ever.

Well it is the way you constantly cry about how others shouldn't have opinions about any games because that depends on each person. You always come crying with that into the discussions. So it is your way to whine about people talking against the Xbox considering you never cry the same way when lemmings criticize PS4 games for example.

@pinkanimal: Selective reading by you obviously. I'll point you to DrLostribs thread"What does PS have to play now, PS fans".

I clearly point out it has plenty to refute his OP in that thread. Like many cows on this forum, you gloss over anything I do post to against a PS bash.

When did I say "others shouldn't have opinions"? Here you continue to just reach in your anus and pull stuff out. Pointing out that you think sea of thieves and crackdown are lol offerings means nothing when there are plenty that look forward to these games is by no means saying you shouldn't have an opinion.

And do you think whatever you say here means something then? I don't get it then, why do you even come here. What I said means nothing I guess what you say also means nothing, the Xbox will continue to have a lousy first party, people will continue to rightfully criticize it, it will continue to sell poorly and lemmings will continue to come to whine on every single Xbox thread for the rest of the gen.

@pinkanimal: You linked me to your profile? Ok

I come here because it's entertaining. As I said, especially people like you who seem to believe that what they like is superior or review scores and popular opinion equates fact. Its a special kind of retardation of development as a human being to be so reliant on the opinions of others Imo.

Why do you come here?

The Xbox will continue to provide me with games I love playing with others like Gears, Halo, Sea of Thieves, now state of Decay 2 has online co op so that should be a blast.

@cainetao11: lol how cute, you think you don't follow the opinions of others and yet you're a lemming that blindly follows MS. You even praise MS because of a twisted sense of patriotic duty dude. You're beyond help.

@pinkanimal: What's twisted about it? Rec rooms for soldiers, outfitted by MS with hd tvs and Xbox consoles so we had them for down time. I'm an American, a veteran, I made use if this and appreciate an American company for doing it. What's twisted about this?

@cainetao11: so you're more emotionally invested than a normal person into the Xbox and that's probably why you keep coloring its flaws and damage controlling it constantly. I'm just saying when people are invested in that way into something that's where cognitive dissonance kicks in hard. So you really have no place telling others not to follow others opinions when your opinion for the Xbox is plagued by a cognitive bias which is a fact of how human psychology works. Your "choice" is completely biased and affected by your emotional investment. So don't pretend your choice is any "purer" than others because it clearly isn't.

@pinkanimal: I don't pretend anything, I never told you not to follow anyones opinions. Please show me where I said that.

I preferred Xbox long before I joined the military in 2010 lol. Just read my post history. My favorite series is Halo, that's the main reason prefer Xbox. It's customer service has always done better by me than Sony's also. My service time saw that this corporation did in fact respect It's country men and women. I respect that.

I don't come here and tell people what they like sucks because less people buy it, reviewers didn't score a game high as you do. I don't tell you what you shouldn't do or can't do as you have just tried with me. I point out what I find funny and ridiculous. You're free to do the same.

If I don't like movie games or jrpgs.......

what does sony have? :D

@cainetao11: Just ignore Pinky... he falls into this category:

"Hey guys, Xbox is sitting on a lot of IP that could be used maybe"

*bitches and moans about cows instead of even remotely discussing the point, turning it into literally the same ad infinitum thread*

Yeah, locking.