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Poll The Most Insignificant System. (228 votes)

PC 6%
PlayStation 4 23%
Wii U 29%
Xbox One 42%

What do you think is the most insignificant system that if it just disappeared (outside from simply supplying competition) would have the littlest impact and would be missed the least?

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#101 mems_1224
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@Seabas989 said:

It's amazing how a poll changes that quickly lol.

The cows have finally awoken and have rushed to vote with all their alt accounts lol

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#102 Maroxad
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As much as I like it.

The Wii U. The Wii U is mostlly just there for Nintendo to put games on, the rest wouldnt be terribly affected if it disappeared. The games are good, and the game has currently the best library of the 3 consoles, but the console is the least notable to the industry at large.

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#103 cainetao11
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I love this place. If the Xbox was really so insignificant, it wouldn't be posted or talked about so much. Fact is it is significant in the minds of gamers whether the opinion is good or bad, its taking up a lot of mental and online space.

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#104 Shielder7
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@shadowchronicle said:

Or it could just be that people are making alts and voting.

You tell us you're the mode can can see IP votes etc.

@LegatoSkyheart said:

PC, in this day and age it's freakin' VITAL to our life style.

It was meant to be only the gaming aspect of the PC, not every PC in general as most PCs/laptops aren't gaming ones.

@deadline-zero0 said:

- lol Shielder thread


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Why lol? was my poll biased in anyway?

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#105 nintendoboy16
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@shadowchronicle said:

Yeah I thought the same thing.

Well looks like the tides have turned.

Tides have changed, sure, but it still makes no sense.

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#106 Shadowchronicle
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>You tell us you're the mode can can see IP votes etc.

No. It's just a guess. xD

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#107 nintendoboy16
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@charizard1605 said:

Hey hey hey, I said nothing about Nintendo disappearing or going third party or anything, my analysis was restricted solely to the Wii U. Nintendo and its properties can still continue to exist and thrive on the 3DS, functionally to the market at large, it would make no difference whatsoever, since it is defacto the exact same situation as right now anyway.

Yeah, based on the 3DS struggles, I doubt it.

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#108 yokofox33
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Probably Xbox One. I have it and enjoy it, but I wouldn't be sad if you took it away from me or it was never made.

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#109 Telekill
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Well, you can't get rid of PC because it's uses are usually business/work oriented. If you're talking about gaming on PCs only, then that.

Next would be a toss up between X1 and and WiiU. X1 has few exclusives they bring to the table while WiiU is simply a horrible execution of a gaming platform. Yet they still have the classic exclusives.

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#110 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@charizard1605 said:

Hey hey hey, I said nothing about Nintendo disappearing or going third party or anything, my analysis was restricted solely to the Wii U. Nintendo and its properties can still continue to exist and thrive on the 3DS, functionally to the market at large, it would make no difference whatsoever, since it is defacto the exact same situation as right now anyway.

Yeah, based on the 3DS struggles, I doubt it.

You can doubt all you want. The system has sold 45 million units worldwide, continues to sell at a steady clip, and games on the 3DS have proven to perform extremely well.

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#111 lostrib
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@Telekill said:

Well, you can't get rid of PC because it's uses are usually business/work oriented. If you're talking about gaming on PCs only, then that.

Next would be a toss up between X1 and and WiiU. X1 has few exclusives they bring to the table while WiiU is simply a horrible execution of a gaming platform. Yet they still have the classic exclusives.

Really? The system with the biggest audience, most dev support, and most revenue? That just had an $11 million gaming tournament which has now interested ESPN in airing more gaming comps

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#112 Shielder7
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@charizard1605 said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@charizard1605 said:

Hey hey hey, I said nothing about Nintendo disappearing or going third party or anything, my analysis was restricted solely to the Wii U. Nintendo and its properties can still continue to exist and thrive on the 3DS, functionally to the market at large, it would make no difference whatsoever, since it is defacto the exact same situation as right now anyway.

Yeah, based on the 3DS struggles, I doubt it.

You can doubt all you want. The system has sold 45 million units worldwide, continues to sell at a steady clip, and games on the 3DS have proven to perform extremely well.

Still not as well as it should, the 3D failed as a gimmick IMO the DS was better.

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#113 hrt_rulz01
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For me, Wii U.

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#114 sHaDyCuBe321
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@BPoole96 said:

@sHaDyCuBe321: if that were true then the Wii U wouldn't be lagging behind in sales despite being out a year longer.

None of PS4 or XB1's big exclusives have even come our yet and they're already selling well

Lagging behind? It's in 2nd place overall. Is it selling as well as the PS4 no. But the Xbox One is not outpacing it by much. Am I saying it will always be 2nd? No not at all. Is it right now? Yes it is. Does it have by far the best lineup of the 3 next-gen consoles? Yes it does, and it's not really close.

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#115  Edited By ominous_titan
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I'll always invest in Nintendo I've always liked what they offer. Currently have all the latest consoles and really tempted to get a decent PC to game on. I find the bone and four are not delivering ,remakes and indies are better then nothing but c'mon man!

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#116 M8ingSeezun
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None, tbh. They all need each other for competition, otherwise the industry would be bland and crash.

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#117  Edited By SolidTy
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Stevo_the_gamer said:

@SolidTy said:

I can't answer this as it's too early in the generation...but it's curious:

Bu-bu-but this is TEH Cowspot?

Therefore this poll is broken as the PS4 shouldn't be leading by 52%? I say this because the PS4 is leading the poll by a huge margin as the most insignificant machine? I guess some fanboys have been lying to themselves and us when they whine and generalize "it's COWSPOT!!!" constantly.

Or we can stop being morons and proclaiming, "Sheepspot/Cowspot/Hermspot/Lemspot!!!!" just because a poll doesn't go the way we want.

BTW: I'm fully aware that by posting in this thread, I can potentially be shaping future troll/fanboy votes and posts, but whatever. My point remains valid as of the time of this post with documented evidence noted above in the picture.

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#118 BPoole96
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@sHaDyCuBe321: it's also been out a year longer than the competition and constantly experiences long droughts of no games. Nintendo '98 first party is better than the other two, but that is literally all you get. The fact that it is even comparable sales wise to the other two is definitely telling.

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#119 pyro1245
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Well the Xbox and PS4 are about equal and only have a handful of exclusives each. They are about equally worthless. If FFXV and MGSV would come out on PC there would be absolutely no reason to own either of them. I voted Xbox.

The Wii U is doing its own thing and has a respectable exclusive library.

PCs are pretty much the most useful things ever created.

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#120 LegatoSkyheart
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@Shielder7 said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

PC, in this day and age it's freakin' VITAL to our life style.

It was meant to be only the gaming aspect of the PC, not every PC in general as most PCs/laptops aren't gaming ones.

Still pretty important.

There are lots of games that probably wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for PC. DayZ, League of Legends, Divinity Original Sin, Torchlight 2, Doom (although this made it to consoles it was only most popular on PC). PC will never be "irrelevant" when it comes to gaming.

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#121 Shielder7
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Shielder7 said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

PC, in this day and age it's freakin' VITAL to our life style.

It was meant to be only the gaming aspect of the PC, not every PC in general as most PCs/laptops aren't gaming ones.

Still pretty important.

There are lots of games that probably wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for PC. DayZ, League of Legends, Divinity Original Sin, Torchlight 2, Doom (although this made it to consoles it was only most popular on PC). PC will never be "irrelevant" when it comes to gaming.

And you think no games wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for consoles?

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#122 LegatoSkyheart
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@Shielder7 said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

Still pretty important.

There are lots of games that probably wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for PC. DayZ, League of Legends, Divinity Original Sin, Torchlight 2, Doom (although this made it to consoles it was only most popular on PC). PC will never be "irrelevant" when it comes to gaming.

And you think no games wouldn't have seen the light of day if it wasn't for consoles?

Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania, Halo, Devil May Cry, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy,...Just a few games In my opinion that I think would not be as good or even be made at all if it wasn't for Consoles.

Sure Halo made it to PC, but It was really because of the Xbox that it was so successful. Same goes for Devil May Cry, Kingdom Hearts, and Resident Evil, Although Devil May Cry and Resident Evil made their way to PC somehow it was the Popularity of the PS2 that made these games see light. Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania, and Final Fantasy could have been done in the Arcades, but they couldn't possibly be regarded as Legendary Titles if it was for the NES, many probably wouldn't have beaten these games if they weren't Console titles seeing as they all required many game hours to complete something you really couldn't do at an arcade.

But that doesn't discredit my opinion of PC either. Day Z LITERALLY would not have happened if it wasn't for PC, simply because it was a Mod of a currently existing title "Arma 2" you can't mod Arma 2 on consoles. Day Z would never have happened if it wasn't for the modding community. Same goes for League of Legends which is A Derivative DOTA a MOD (again) of Warcraft 3.

So there you have it. It's not that I don't think that Consoles aren't needed or anything (they are become irrelevant by the day though) it's that PC is pretty important in Gaming Spectrum. More so now than ever.

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#123  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Shielder7 said:

@charizard1605 said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@charizard1605 said:

Hey hey hey, I said nothing about Nintendo disappearing or going third party or anything, my analysis was restricted solely to the Wii U. Nintendo and its properties can still continue to exist and thrive on the 3DS, functionally to the market at large, it would make no difference whatsoever, since it is defacto the exact same situation as right now anyway.

Yeah, based on the 3DS struggles, I doubt it.

You can doubt all you want. The system has sold 45 million units worldwide, continues to sell at a steady clip, and games on the 3DS have proven to perform extremely well.

Still not as well as it should, the 3D failed as a gimmick IMO the DS was better.

The 3D gimmick is a failure, The 3DS is selling in spite of that.

How well, in your opinion exactly, should the 3DS be selling?

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#124 intotheminx
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@Stevo_the_gamer: fucking LOST IT lol. <3 Sunny.

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#125 hiphops_savior
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@Shielder7: To be fair, not many systems is even close to approaching the lifetime sales of the DS. Between that and the Wii has set Nintendo long enough to weather one bad gen for at least two to three years.

Going back to the 3DS, it was a failed gimmick. But it was a gambit that made sense at the time. Handhelds are getting pinched by smartphones even in 2011 and 3D was a huge trend with Avatar smashing box office records.

Truth be told, next gen for Nintendo will either result in them going bankrupt or soaring to heights not even Samsung can ascend to.

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#126 sHaDyCuBe321
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@BPoole96: let's put this bs nonsense to rest.

Wii U games you can't get on PS4 or Xbox One in the first year of the Wii U's release that are above 70% on GR:

Super Mario 3D Worlds

Zelda Wind Waker

Deus Ex HR Directors Cut

Pikmin 3

Need For Speed Most Wanted U

Black Ops 2

Darksiders 2

Arkham City

NSWBU

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Lego City Undercover

W 101

NintendoLand

Zombi U

Scribblenauts Unlimited

Total - 15

X1 games you can't get on PS4 or Wii U in the first year of the X1's release that are above 70% on GR:

Titanfall

Super Time Force

Forza 5

Dead Rising 3

Peggle 2

Killer Instinct

Max CoB

Zoo Tycon

Total - 8

PS4 games you can't get on Wii U or Xbox One in the first year of the PS4's release that are above 70% on GR:

TLoU R

FFXIV

Resogun

Transistor

Infamous SS

Killzone Shadowfall

Total - 6

So unless X1 can manage 7 more games that are 70+ by December and PS4 can manage 9 more, then it is clear that the Wii U had a better first year game-wise than BOTH. This ridiculous fallacy about Wii U's head start is BS.

Will it continue to be this way? Probably not. The console's lack of multiplats will catch up to it and it will at best be a companion console, but is it the most insignificant? Absolutely not.

Significance is determined by whether or not there are more worthwhile experiences on your console than others. If you own an X1 then the PS4 is the most insignificant. And if you own PS4 then it's the X1 because those consoles will be distinguished by their multiplats.

Wii U has too many quality exclusives to be insignificant.

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#127  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@roler42 said:

PS4, no one buys their exclusives, they rather just talk about them

lolwut? Killzone SF and Infamous SS are the highest selling exclusive games thus far... Hell, even Knack sold well

Sometimes I wonder if people even think properly before spitting the sh*t that comes from their mouths... sheesh

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#128  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Gamerno6666 said:

PS4 is at 56%. lol Cows be mad.

No longer. Xbone is at 42.

... and thats why no one should talk at the start of a poll. Let the results come first.

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#129 AmazonTreeBoa
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Guess we are excluding handhelds or I would say Vita.

X1 followed by the Wii U.

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#130 BldgIrsh
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173 results. Wow, I used to think it was the usual 30-40 people. But we have 173 people that atleast lurk the SW forums. That's pretty nice.

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@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@BPoole96: let's put this bs nonsense to rest.

Wii U games you can't get on PS4 or Xbox One in the first year of the Wii U's release that are above 70% on GR:

Super Mario 3D Worlds

Zelda Wind Waker

Deus Ex HR Directors Cut

Pikmin 3

Need For Speed Most Wanted U

Black Ops 2

Darksiders 2

Arkham City

NSWBU

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Lego City Undercover

W 101

NintendoLand

Zombi U

Scribblenauts Unlimited

Total - 15

X1 games you can't get on PS4 or Wii U in the first year of the X1's release that are above 70% on GR:

Titanfall

Super Time Force

Forza 5

Dead Rising 3

Peggle 2

Killer Instinct

Max CoB

Zoo Tycon

Total - 8

PS4 games you can't get on Wii U or Xbox One in the first year of the PS4's release that are above 70% on GR:

TLoU R

FFXIV

Resogun

Transistor

Infamous SS

Killzone Shadowfall

Total - 6

So unless X1 can manage 7 more games that are 70+ by December and PS4 can manage 9 more, then it is clear that the Wii U had a better first year game-wise than BOTH. This ridiculous fallacy about Wii U's head start is BS.

Will it continue to be this way? Probably not. The console's lack of multiplats will catch up to it and it will at best be a companion console, but is it the most insignificant? Absolutely not.

Significance is determined by whether or not there are more worthwhile experiences on your console than others. If you own an X1 then the PS4 is the most insignificant. And if you own PS4 then it's the X1 because those consoles will be distinguished by their multiplats.

Wii U has too many quality exclusives to be insignificant.

you're forgetting on the PS4 list:

Flower

Sound Shapes

Towerfall Ascension

9 > 8

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#132  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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The Wii U. Biggest blunder since the Virtual Boy. With any luck, we'll have a replacement by 2016...

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#133 BPoole96
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@Vatusus said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@BPoole96: let's put this bs nonsense to rest.

Wii U games you can't get on PS4 or Xbox One in the first year of the Wii U's release that are above 70% on GR:

Super Mario 3D Worlds

Zelda Wind Waker

Deus Ex HR Directors Cut

Pikmin 3

Need For Speed Most Wanted U

Black Ops 2

Darksiders 2

Arkham City

NSWBU

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Lego City Undercover

W 101

NintendoLand

Zombi U

Scribblenauts Unlimited

Total - 15

X1 games you can't get on PS4 or Wii U in the first year of the X1's release that are above 70% on GR:

Titanfall

Super Time Force

Forza 5

Dead Rising 3

Peggle 2

Killer Instinct

Max CoB

Zoo Tycon

Total - 8

PS4 games you can't get on Wii U or Xbox One in the first year of the PS4's release that are above 70% on GR:

TLoU R

FFXIV

Resogun

Transistor

Infamous SS

Killzone Shadowfall

Total - 6

So unless X1 can manage 7 more games that are 70+ by December and PS4 can manage 9 more, then it is clear that the Wii U had a better first year game-wise than BOTH. This ridiculous fallacy about Wii U's head start is BS.

Will it continue to be this way? Probably not. The console's lack of multiplats will catch up to it and it will at best be a companion console, but is it the most insignificant? Absolutely not.

Significance is determined by whether or not there are more worthwhile experiences on your console than others. If you own an X1 then the PS4 is the most insignificant. And if you own PS4 then it's the X1 because those consoles will be distinguished by their multiplats.

Wii U has too many quality exclusives to be insignificant.

you're forgetting on the PS4 list:

Flower

Sound Shapes

Towerfall Ascension

9 > 8

And there is Drive Club, LBP3, Helldivers, Axiom Verge, Hotline Miami 2, and Apotheon coming this Fall. I also wouldn't count those inferior versions of 7th gen games that he listed for the Wii U like Darksiders 2 and Batman Arkham City

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None, so far.

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#135 Shielder7
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@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

Lagging behind? It's in 2nd place overall. Is it selling as well as the PS4 no. But the Xbox One is not outpacing it by much. Am I saying it will always be 2nd? No not at all. Is it right now? Yes it is. Does it have by far the best lineup of the 3 next-gen consoles? Yes it does, and it's not really close.

The Xbox One will be out selling it by years end.

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#136 sandbox3d
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I won't say any of them are insignificant, but if the X1 were to vanish it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I only like having MS around to keep Sony on their toes, that's about it.

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#137  Edited By melonfarmerz
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

Xbox lackies hate us b/c they envy that the PS4 does 1080 more than they can. PC lackeis hate us b/c ppl are loving consoles again due to the PS4. Everyone hates us b/c we have such good exclusives.

Why do you use "us"? Do you think you're in a special club?

Also, do you even follow gaming at all? People are moving away from consoles to PC as of late. If you even remotely follow the news, you'd know that...

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#140  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@walloftruth said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

Xbox lackies hate us b/c they envy that the PS4 does 1080 more than they can. PC lackeis hate us b/c ppl are loving consoles again due to the PS4. Everyone hates us b/c we have such good exclusives.

Why do you use "us"? Do you think you're in a special club?

Also, do you even follow gaming at all? People are moving away from consoles to PC as of late. If you even remotely follow the news, you'd know that...

He probably means "us" as in "us cows/cows" which is funny since in one of his first posts on SW he claimed to be a hermit.

I know it's hilarious....you guys play detectives all day long o these boards..it's fucking pathetic.

I say us b/c I'm a Playstation fan. That....in no way shape or form, means I don't game on PC.

You mean the same news that says PC is more profitable and has more revenue than console....yeah...I know about that shit too..and it's about as transparent as mud.

You ppl are too ignorant and arrogant to make it worth discussing things with you...it's starting not to be worth while.

If you can show me where I said I was a hermit.....which if I'm correct means I'm a PC gamer only....b/c isn't there another term for someone who games on multiple systems?

Go ahead...I'm waiting.

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@hernandezzzz said:

The Wii U. Biggest blunder since the Virtual Boy. With any luck, we'll have a replacement by 2016...

That is way too early.

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#142 locopatho
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Judging each system on it's own merits? The VITA and WiiU. They have the least to offer as stand alone systems.

Judging all the systems compared to each other? The VITA and Xbox One. Most of their games are on one or more of the 360, PS3, PS4, PC. You wouldn't really need a VITA or Xbox One to get most of their games.

PC + Sony console + Nintendo handheld is pretty much the glory combo.

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#143 locopatho
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@hernandezzzz said:

The Wii U. Biggest blunder since the Virtual Boy. With any luck, we'll have a replacement by 2016...

That is way too early.

Depends. Need to see how the WiiU does in games and sales over the next couple of years. It'll probably trundle on to Gamecube levels (albeit without as many multiplats) but if it's dying there'd be no point prolonging it either.

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#144  Edited By inb4uall
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@sHaDyCuBe321: if that were true then the Wii U wouldn't be lagging behind in sales despite being out a year longer.

None of PS4 or XB1's big exclusives have even come our yet and they're already selling well

Yes because sales = quality. amirite?

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#145  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@locopatho said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@hernandezzzz said:

The Wii U. Biggest blunder since the Virtual Boy. With any luck, we'll have a replacement by 2016...

That is way too early.

Depends. Need to see how the WiiU does in games and sales over the next couple of years. It'll probably trundle on to Gamecube levels (albeit without as many multiplats) but if it's dying there'd be no point prolonging it either.

In either case, it's gonna stick around till 2016.

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@charizard1605 said:
@locopatho said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@hernandezzzz said:

The Wii U. Biggest blunder since the Virtual Boy. With any luck, we'll have a replacement by 2016...

That is way too early.

Depends. Need to see how the WiiU does in games and sales over the next couple of years. It'll probably trundle on to Gamecube levels (albeit without as many multiplats) but if it's dying there'd be no point prolonging it either.

In either case, it's gonna stick around till 2016.

Sure, but I don't think it's impossible to see a new console Christmas 2016 if WiiU does badly in the next couple years...

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@locopatho said:

@charizard1605 said:
@locopatho said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@hernandezzzz said:

The Wii U. Biggest blunder since the Virtual Boy. With any luck, we'll have a replacement by 2016...

That is way too early.

Depends. Need to see how the WiiU does in games and sales over the next couple of years. It'll probably trundle on to Gamecube levels (albeit without as many multiplats) but if it's dying there'd be no point prolonging it either.

In either case, it's gonna stick around till 2016.

Sure, but I don't think it's impossible to see a new console Christmas 2016 if WiiU does badly in the next couple years...

No, I agree with you. They're gonna put put a successor by Christmas 2016. That's the earliest they can release a new system and still appear to have given the Wii U at least reasonable support, but they don't want this thing around their necks any longer than necessary.

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#148 LJS9502_basic
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@Shielder7 said:

@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

Lagging behind? It's in 2nd place overall. Is it selling as well as the PS4 no. But the Xbox One is not outpacing it by much. Am I saying it will always be 2nd? No not at all. Is it right now? Yes it is. Does it have by far the best lineup of the 3 next-gen consoles? Yes it does, and it's not really close.

The Xbox One will be out selling it by years end.

Bold statement but I doubt it happens.

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#150 dommeus
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@SolidTy:

You spoke too soon lol