The most ripped off FPS is...

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

That's funny. The whole A came before B, thus C is a copy of A and B is irrelevant argument. DOOM has a chainsaw so GEOW copied it ZOMG!

Because we all know that they are the same game. I am sitting here with a copy of DE:IW and DE GOTY edition, and Project Snowblind on my desk. They are NOWHERE NEAR the same game. bhe Biomods =/= the augmentations & items. Completely different uses and experience, thus a completely different aspect of the game.

locopatho

And I could say the same about the games after Project Snowblind.

No, not really. Because they are not only presented in the same fashion (P:S - Bioshock anyone...lol), but they again, are used in the absolutely same fashion. That's the difference between ripping and borrowing. Project Snowblind BUILT upon Deus Ex. Many FPS don't do a dogs lick more than Project Snowblind, but use the same "borrowed" aspect is the same fashion - thus making it a RIP.

What of System Shock. And to be honest the Biomods/Augmentations in Snowblind and Deus Ex seemed pretty similar to me.

I can't think of one non-gimmicky issue in Deus Ex where I was forced to use a certain biomod to progress. Biomods were an "if you feel like it" approach. They are EVERYWHERE in Project Snowblind - which was also one of the first games to introduce the enemy AI's combined arms system.

MIDI Maze, poineered LAN gaming, online spawned from LAN.

It came out before Wolf 3D too :D

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

cobrax75

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

I'm talking about gameplay.

There is more in common between modern FPS and Half-Life than there is between Doom and modern FPS.

What gameplay mechanics specifically did HalfLife have, that's not found in Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, or any of it's other predecessors?

scripted sequences....that was what made Half Life so revolusionary for FPS's.

it was also the first to have a enviroment that made"sence"

[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

AdobeArtist

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

I'm talking about gameplay.

There is more in common between modern FPS and Half-Life than there is between Doom and modern FPS.

What gameplay mechanics specifically did HalfLife have, that's not found in Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, or any of it's other predecessors?

Well there's the teeth-gratingly ****ty platforming sections towards the end... don't remember those in Wolfenstein 3D.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

AdobeArtist

Anyway, if anyone feels gypped, it's the guys at Looking Glass (then Blue Sky), who made Ultima Underworld just before Wolf3D.

[QUOTE="WeAreToast"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

AdobeArtist

I remember some guy named CherryShooter saying that he started gaming with Halo because "there were no good games before Halo." Someone sig'd it, it's a funny quote.

*rubbing temples*

You can get a pretty good idea of just how young and inexperienced that kid is.

I like how you always seem to recollect what someone says when it's towards playstation.