The Motion Movement...are we ready?

Nintendo were not in a crisis at the end of last gen, the gba made a killing and even the gc turned a nice profit for them because it was never sold at a loss... I don't see much coming of the add ons so late in this gen to be honest with you but next gen should be interesting.

the ps move has yet to prove itself so there no reason for you to say its better than wii there no proof of it.rcafan

Been ready since November 4th, since I got all three opponents!

Kinect wins and a tough tough pill to swallow for the haters in here.

Kinect wins and a tough tough pill to swallow for the haters in here.

ReachandKinect

IMPOSSIBRU! I r the W1NRARZ!

I got all three of them and it's obvious that I am the winner. Kinect has got nothing on me.

I love the direction Sony's taking with the Move. Everything else, meh.

Most core Wii games don't even use the waggle as someone else said.

If motion controls replace regular controllers, I'm done. Good bye gaming I will say.

I love the direction Sony's taking with the Move. Everything else, meh.

Most core Wii games don't even use the waggle as someone else said.

Nega3

[QUOTE="Nega3"]

I love the direction Sony's taking with the Move. Everything else, meh.

Most core Wii games don't even use the waggle as someone else said.

goblaa

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="Nega3"]

I love the direction Sony's taking with the Move. Everything else, meh.

Most core Wii games don't even use the waggle as someone else said.

BrunoBRS

Even when you throw in third party, it's still not a large list. Definitely one dwarfed by the list of core games that do use motion control.

As for smart motion controls, that's really a matter of opinion.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I'd still take a controller over motion any day of the week. I play videogames to unwind, and nobody really unwinds when their standing up and flailing their arms and legs like a goon.

Which is why I'll probably stay away from Kinect. I'm glad Nintendo is implementing 3D into their next handheld. Least I'll be able to enjoy games without clapping or waving my hands around.

rcafan

I was referring to Kinect, which was obvious in the second paragraph. I'm pretty sure you have to stand up and flail your arms and legs to get things done in Kinect.

I'm sorry if I somehow deeply offended you over your videogames.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="goblaa"] I don't know why people say this. Mario, metroid, zelda, Mario kart, pikmin, wii series, DKR...all motion controlled games. The only two motion-less nintendo games I can think of are smash bros and Kirby.goblaa

Even when you throw in third party, it's still not a large list. Definitely one dwarfed by the list of core games that do use motion control.

As for smart motion controls, that's really a matter of opinion.

[QUOTE="Nega3"]

I love the direction Sony's taking with the Move. Everything else, meh.

Most core Wii games don't even use the waggle as someone else said.

goblaa

[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="Nega3"]

I love the direction Sony's taking with the Move. Everything else, meh.

Most core Wii games don't even use the waggle as someone else said.

CajunShooter

Still motion controls. That's why the wiimote an move works. they have buttons too.

First I'd like to admit I didnt read all of it.

Ready or not though, its happening full circle. When there is a potential market, which the wii obviously showed, it'll get jumped. That doesnt mean it'll be good anytime soon for certain people(or even the tech itself). What it will most likely mean is an increase in attention towards it trying to make it more efficient in how it works. Still, its an idea being forced down people's throats at this point. It'll improve as time goes on, and the potential for it to actually be good is there..we just aren't seeing it done yet.

In the end though, Im 99.9% sure I wont be there to support it.

I'm ready for this to be over.

If motion controls somehow become standard on consoles then I'll simply become an exclusive pc player.

When you bunch in all players of non-motion control games (pc, 360, ps3) they outnumber the wii audience.

If everyone goes the wii route, then it'll just be back to square one, since they'll be all fighting over roughly the same amount of people again, just on the other end of the spectrum.

If motion controls somehow become standard on consoles then I'll simply become an exclusive pc player.

When you bunch in all players of non-motion control games (pc, 360, ps3) they outnumber the wii audience.

If everyone goes the wii route, then it'll just be back to square one, since they'll be all fighting over roughly the same amount of people again, just on the other end of the spectrum.

topgunmv

I don't know why people say this. As if the 360 or PS3 had a wiimote it would be any different. Look at Move. Works great and already has games like MAG, LBP, and KZ3. That's pretty much the future of motion controls, something that can be used in both casual games and core games equally. Same with the wii now. Shooters play wondefully on the Wii, RE4 is a perfet example of a great core game that contols amazingly with motion.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

If motion controls somehow become standard on consoles then I'll simply become an exclusive pc player.

When you bunch in all players of non-motion control games (pc, 360, ps3) they outnumber the wii audience.

If everyone goes the wii route, then it'll just be back to square one, since they'll be all fighting over roughly the same amount of people again, just on the other end of the spectrum.

goblaa

I don't know why people say this. As if the 360 or PS3 had a wiimote it would be any different. Look at Move. Works great and already has games like MAG, LBP, and KZ3. That's pretty much the future of motion controls, something that can be used in both casual games and core games equally. Same with the wii now. Shooters play wondefully on the Wii, RE4 is a perfet example of a great core game that contols amazingly with motion.

Motion controls aren't nearly as good of a universal controller as a gamepad.

Also, they require more room and effort to use than standard controls.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

If motion controls somehow become standard on consoles then I'll simply become an exclusive pc player.

When you bunch in all players of non-motion control games (pc, 360, ps3) they outnumber the wii audience.

If everyone goes the wii route, then it'll just be back to square one, since they'll be all fighting over roughly the same amount of people again, just on the other end of the spectrum.

goblaa

I don't know why people say this. As if the 360 or PS3 had a wiimote it would be any different. Look at Move. Works great and already has games like MAG, LBP, and KZ3. That's pretty much the future of motion controls, something that can be used in both casual games and core games equally. Same with the wii now. Shooters play wondefully on the Wii, RE4 is a perfet example of a great core game that contols amazingly with motion.

For most games, it just makes more sense to use the d pad, traditional buttons, and the joystick. The purpose of games is not to simulate real actions with controls, and the heights have gaming have not come from controls, but the games themselves.

I should point out that, like it or not it's going to be the casuals that decide wether motion controls are going to be the future. As I brought up in the OP how the market gauges these new peripherals is going to be a massive turning point for the market. We as gamers who demand more from our machines we also need to ask ourselves that what will denying motion controls do for us? Will the market be happy with a scheme of control that has been around for umtpeen years? Don't we expect more from the big 3 than the same? If people were as reluctant of adopting anolog controls in the past, hell I remember a large faction who rejected the idea of anolog against D-pad. "It's not as accurate you have millions of directional options instead of 4" Of course these people didn't play in arcades...but thats beside the point. The game industry needs to keep growing to stay relevant, stagnation will destroy it. So if not motion control? What is the next big innovation for games? Perhaps I'll make a new article to discuss other outcomes of the new generations look forward to it in a few days!Jynxzor

"Expecting more" doesn't mean expecting developers to due things differently for the sake of being different. It's better to build off of the control systems we've already had, if they even need to be, rather than try and replace them with something different. Motion controls are a drastically different way of building games and to me it feels more like starting from the beginning. They're primitive and what will it mean when they become advanced? Will our skill be determined by how well we can simulate in game actions? That's taking gaming into an entirely different focus.

The purpose of games is not to simulate real actions with controls, and the heights have gaming have not come from controls.

hakanakumono

Some are. That's the point of motion controls. To put the player in the game. Slaying monsters with actual 1:1 sword swings is more fun that mashing the A button. Swigning the golf club instead of timing a power meter is way less boring. Putting spin on a ball is a lot more immersive than holding a combo of buttons.

Not all games for sure, but some are. That's why a motion control set up with normal buttons works best.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]The purpose of games is not to simulate real actions with controls, and the heights have gaming have not come from controls.

goblaa

Some are. That's the point of motion controls. To put the player in the game. Slaying monsters with actual 1:1 sword swings is more fun that mashing the A button. Swigning the golf club instead of timing a power meter is way less boring. Putting spin on a ball is a lot more immersive than holding a combo of buttons.

Not all games for sure, but some are. That's why a motion control set up with normal buttons works best.

Let me know your thoughts on the situation...and yes PC you can talk too, you just don't have any swanky popular motion devices I could guestimate on, other than Mind control being in THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!!!!!

Jynxzor

motion>> game pads

I have zero interest in motion control and want nothing to do with it.

If I was interested; I could have purchased a motion control mouse before the Wii even hit the market.

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]
Let me know your thoughts on the situation...and yes PC you can talk too, you just don't have any swanky popular motion devices I could guestimate on, other than Mind control being in THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!!!!!

HuusAsking

It's very hard to actually convey to brain command...Walk without actually wanting to walk. Try it think about doing something, I mean think really hard about it focus on it..I bet after a time at least your hands will be restless and perhaps mimicking some primitive form of the motion to alleviate mental frustration. Until they can actually immerse us into the world itself as a sensual experience, "IE you are only aware of the game and not say...your cat clawing on your leg or baby sucking on your elbow. Until then I can't see true thought control being a real big player aside from like kinect the novelty factor.

Hell they are allready some devices to read thoughts but they are finiky at best.

motion>> game pads

dontshackzmii

My thoughts on the whole motion control fad? BLAST IT WITH PISS!!

I don't think any of them are any good, most Wii owners I know use Gamecube controllers for their regular games, and only break out the TV smashers when people are over. Kinect will probably end up similar to the Eye-Toy with no worthy games and the PS Move will end up halfway between both. Let's consider it this way:

Wii: A sickening amount of games that necessitate motion control can be beaten by random flailing of the limbs. I have seen this, I have done this.

Kinect: Allows realistic functions of activities that one can do in real life, with less realism and more inane movements.

PS Move: May do what the Wii can do, and better but succumbs to less games and less originality. And...Seriously?

Out of all these I probably hate the Kinect most though, just for the sheer amount of stupidity that one will have an appearance of when playing it. Ooooh but it scan your skateboard deck so you can go skating with your own deck and has realistic movement tracking. If you have a skateboard, why would you be indoors pretending you're riding one and looking silly when you could be outside getting fully sick skills?

Had a wii, thought it was fun for a while, but it became a pain. Having a fairly small living room a recliner and coffee table having to move all that stuff to play wii sports resort, hell even playing rockbad when i have people over was a chore. Move would be the same and kinect would be even worse in my situation with all that clutter so no i'm not ready and i doubt i ever will be.

I being a nintendo+P.C gamer must say this: NINTENDO IS ALWAYS at its best when it makes something new. THe gamecube was bassicly a n64 with better graphics. THats why nintendo did poorly.

We have to be alwasys ready for new ideas guys. If motionn control was a bad idea, why r all the othe companys copying it?

I'm willing to see where MS and Sony take it. This is only the beginning for them and since it isn't being forced on me, why not? I do have a choice.

I'm willing to see where MS and Sony take it. This is only the beginning for them and since it isn't being forced on me, why not? I do have a choice.

heretrix

What about Nintendo? You don't think they can take it anywhere?

We'll see what happens next gen.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I'm willing to see where MS and Sony take it. This is only the beginning for them and since it isn't being forced on me, why not? I do have a choice.

Wii4Fun

What about Nintendo? You don't think they can take it anywhere?

We'll see what happens next gen.

I know this stuff sells and all but I'm so sick of it already and it just isn't good enough to get my interest. Remind me again about motion controls when I can get something like the holodeck from star trek.

im not being a xbox 360 fanboy because i dont have an xbox and i hate kinnect

but xbox will have more sales want to know why

1. flippin advertising for ffs this crap will end up haveing more adverts then the wii. the wii advertises on tv 24/7 nd people like JLS are playing wii party no wonder why wii has so much sales. i have only seen 4 adverts for ps move 2. ps move adverts one lord of the rings argons quest trailer and a sports champs trailer.

2. dumb idiot 10 year olds who think there hardcore gamers just because they play mw2 and think ps move is a wii. there like you dont need controller

the console which is the best so far is

wii (because there are some decent games but not alot , smg2 , zelda twilight , metroid prime tirogy, supersmashbros , wii fit , wii sports resort

ps move ( so far the wii has better games but that is because the wii has more but the move is better then kinect because of sports champs, re5 and mag and hevy rain

kinect has the best dancing game and some decent sports games but most genres wont work on this

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]
Let me know your thoughts on the situation...and yes PC you can talk too, you just don't have any swanky popular motion devices I could guestimate on, other than Mind control being in THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!!!!!

Jynxzor

It's very hard to actually convey to brain command...Walk without actually wanting to walk. Try it think about doing something, I mean think really hard about it focus on it..I bet after a time at least your hands will be restless and perhaps mimicking some primitive form of the motion to alleviate mental frustration. Until they can actually immerse us into the world itself as a sensual experience, "IE you are only aware of the game and not say...your cat clawing on your leg or baby sucking on your elbow. Until then I can't see true thought control being a real big player aside from like kinect the novelty factor.

Hell they are allready some devices to read thoughts but they are finiky at best.