The newest 360 chipsets isn't 54% RROD!

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

PS3_3DO

wheres your proof

Doesn't matter to the millions of owners who have the old chipset though does it. I'm one of those peopole who are haunted everyday with the lingering thoughts that RROD will hit me since my 360 hasn't bricked and I've had it since 2007.

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

Brownesque

wheres your proof

he's always been a 360 fanboy here on system wars.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

resevl4rlz

wheres your proof

Prove to me it isn't. Use something more then a poll from game informer ok. ;)

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

PS3_3DO

wheres your proof

Prove to me it isn't. Use something more then a poll from game informer ok. ;)

no YOU provide the proof.
i guess you can't because you pulled that number out of your.......... you know what.

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

PS3_3DO

wheres your proof

Prove to me it isn't. Use something more then a poll from game informer ok. ;)

at least i didnt steal the number from a gaming magazine

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

wheres your proof

dethroned3

Prove to me it isn't. Use something more then a poll from game informer ok. ;)

no YOU provide the proof.
i guess you can't because you pulled that number out of your.......... you know what.

MS said it last year after the Jasper chipset came out. I read it on the Internet. ;)

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

resevl4rlz

wheres your proof

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

Twig978

wheres your proof

You have to factor in some percentage to user error. So it's most likely less then 20%.

It doesn't matter there's no excuses this far in the game! They should have fixed this issue dramatically long ago! I have a launch unit and everytime I turn it on I pray I don't get the RROD now that's bad!!! People shouldn't have to worry about these things like that. It's probably my worst investment in purchasing a gaming console since Saturn.

If the new chipsets still maintain above even 10% defect rate, that is obscene. The newest chipsets should have 55nm, right? Seriously, if they can't get a system with a 55nm processor to function properly, that's just ridiculous. That said, the Game Informer's "survey" should be ignored by everyone. Failure rates are not subject to polls. And poll science dictates that not every poll is reliable even as an indicator of public opinion. Facts are certainly not subject to public opinion....Brownesque

Why would the size of a chip determine the tendency for an electronic to fail?

[QUOTE="Twig978"][QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

wheres your proof

PS3_3DO

You have to factor in some percentage to user error. So it's most likely less then 20%.

Ah man even 10% is crazy high. A failure rate of 5% is high. Check out here http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/desktops/barracuda_hard_drives/barracuda_7200.12/then hit specifications. Seagate lists this hdd as 0.32% failure rate. Which goes for most computer hardware. Even in a dell or something the failure rate is pretty low or if a hd drive, ram or something fails you just replace that one device. If what people say where the heat in those xbox's warps the chips then the whole dang board is scrap and has to be tossed not like a pc where you just replace that "one" device. The failure rates on those consoles is atrocious. That aside the games and what not on the xbox are still great and the other services offered.

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

PS3_3DO

mkay being a design student i fail to see your charts which show a reduced failure rate, and what diffrences the chipset has from the last one.Finally a linked to an article with a controlled testshowing this chipset in question actually has reduced the rate.(which is basically QA 101 to see if its improving).Also Just because MS says its reduced does NOT mean its true it will most likely be PR spin or some calculated number they think is true.Until theres a comparrasin to jasper to older units on paper with raw numbers then i 'll believe it.

The 360 is like a Dean guitar you get the odd hidden gem but the rest are just pants due to faulty components and poor QA methods.

[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Prove to me it isn't. Use something more then a poll from game informer ok. ;)

PS3_3DO

no YOU provide the proof.
i guess you can't because you pulled that number out of your.......... you know what.

MS said it last year after the Jasper chipset came out. I read it on the Internet. ;)

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

no YOU provide the proof.
i guess you can't because you pulled that number out of your.......... you know what.

bubnux

MS said it last year after the Jasper chipset came out. I read it on the Internet. ;)

True, but should we believe, rapid internet bloggers or microsoft?

E74 anyone lol.

The worst thing is that some people go through numerous 360s! 1 of my friends has had 5 different 360s, his 5th just recently broke and he's waiting on his 6th! He doesn't do anything foolish like keep his xbox in an enclosed area or let dust collect. Microsoft is lucky to have customers as loyal as him, I would give up after the second RROD. I just don't understand why MS doesn't send refurbs with the improved chipsets so that people don't go through this again!punkdave

In February 2008, during the Game Developers Conference 2008, Microsoft announced that the "Failure rate has officially dropped", but without mentioning any specifics. The same month, electronics warranty provider SquareTrade published an examination of 1040 Xbox 360s and said that they suffered from a failure rate of 16.4% (one in six). Of the 171 failures, 60% were due to a general hardware failure (and thus fell under the 3 year extended warranty). And of the remaining 40% which were not covered by the extended warranty, 18% were disc read errors, 13% were video card failures, 13% were hard drive freezes, 10% were power issues and 7% were disc tray malfunctions.

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The newest 360s using the jasper chipset has only a 20% or less rate of RROD. Most of the people that complain about the RROD are using the old chipsets not the jasper one. Now if someone saysthey have a jasper one that RROD on them most likley they cause it by user error by not taking care of it.

Brownesque

wheres your proof

You mean like the people trying to claim the 54% failure rate?

[QUOTE="bubnux"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

MS said it last year after the Jasper chipset came out. I read it on the Internet. ;)

Communistsheep

True, but should we believe, rapid internet bloggers or microsoft?

Yeah you would rather believe a poll from game informer. :roll:

to OP: Prove it or GTFO!HaloIs4Nerds

Tell that to game Informer.

If the new chipsets still maintain above even 10% defect rate, that is obscene. The newest chipsets should have 55nm, right? Seriously, if they can't get a system with a 55nm processor to function properly, that's just ridiculous. That said, the Game Informer's "survey" should be ignored by everyone. Failure rates are not subject to polls. And poll science dictates that not every poll is reliable even as an indicator of public opinion. Facts are certainly not subject to public opinion....Brownesque

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

wheres your proof

he's always been a 360 fanboy here on system wars.

Well done for giving proof!Mr_Splosher

I am sure that this article will clear up a few things.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

no YOU provide the proof.
i guess you can't because you pulled that number out of your.......... you know what.

bubnux

MS said it last year after the Jasper chipset came out. I read it on the Internet. ;)

That's not it either. MS keeps claiming that they make quality products. Figure that out!

man, why does system wars keep getting warped back to 2007?

If the new chipsets still maintain above even 10% defect rate, that is obscene. The newest chipsets should have 55nm, right? Seriously, if they can't get a system with a 55nm processor to function properly, that's just ridiculous. That said, the Game Informer's "survey" should be ignored by everyone. Failure rates are not subject to polls. And poll science dictates that not every poll is reliable even as an indicator of public opinion. Facts are certainly not subject to public opinion....Brownesque

This probably has nothing to do with the topic but I just find it cool how going from a 75nm chip to a 55nm chip makes such a big difference. I mean the nano scale is so small that I wouldnt think that dropping 20 NM would make as big of a difference as going from 75 meters to 55 meters. But when you put it to scale it really is practically the same thing. More changes happen at the nanoscale than the larger scales, I mean a lot compounds act completely different at that scale. Just for people that dont truly know how small the nanoscale is........there are atoms that are 10nm in diameter. Which means that soon there will be computer chips the size of atoms.

likely, but try telling this to cows?

RROD is all they have, without it they'd have nothing to talk about.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]If the new chipsets still maintain above even 10% defect rate, that is obscene. The newest chipsets should have 55nm, right? Seriously, if they can't get a system with a 55nm processor to function properly, that's just ridiculous. That said, the Game Informer's "survey" should be ignored by everyone. Failure rates are not subject to polls. And poll science dictates that not every poll is reliable even as an indicator of public opinion. Facts are certainly not subject to public opinion....Trmpt

This probably has nothing to do with the topic but I just find it cool how going from a 75nm chip to a 55nm chip makes such a big difference. I mean the nano scale is so small that I wouldnt think that dropping 20 NM would make as big of a difference as going from 75 meters to 55 meters. But when you put it to scale it really is practically the same thing. More changes happen at the nanoscale than the larger scales, I mean a lot compounds act completely different at that scale. Just for people that dont truly know how small the nanoscale is........there are atoms that are 10nm in diameter. Which means that soon there will be computer chips the size of atoms.

man, why does system wars keep getting warped back to 2007?

clone01

20% is still way to high, so basicly they fixed nothing.djsifer01

20% is still way to high, so basicly they fixed nothing.djsifer01

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]20% is still way to high, so basicly they fixed nothing.vaderhater