The Next Perfect Dark Game Will Be Better Resistance 2?

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#51 club-sandwich
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I love PDZ, and I don't give a crap about what fake/fanboys think about, if I enjoy a game I'm happy, and that's good enough for me, I'm happy to see that there will be a sequel for PD :)
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#52 Nerkcon
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Why shouldn't we NOT count GS scores only? THIS IS THEIR WEBSITE! :| But I agree, RFOM was cheated on, Resistance went against Gears of War and it was a rushed launch game. What did Prefect Dark went against?
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#53 linkfa65
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perfect dark is not as it use 2 be i perfer the64 version
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#54 Tactis
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It's impossible to know right now. This topic is 1 year too early.dracula_16

QFT!!

stop making threads about random speculation based on no facts.

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#55 mrxb0x360
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[QUOTE="mrxb0x360"]Resitance owned PDZ in nearly every possible way.OmegaOrtega

Bu bu buuut teh teh Gamespot score!!

LoL...

I think Greg was sick when he reviewed PDZ, very sick.

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#56 jcant
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]

Who Honestly thought PDZ was better then RFOM?Timstuff

It's a thread started by ReverseCyclogy. What did you expect? :|

Hopefully Perfect Dark Zero 2 doesn't even get made because PDZ was complete garbage. However, Resistance was great, so hopefully the sequel builds and improves upon the first one.

You didn't even play PDZ. I doubt you've ever used the 360 before. If you have played PDZ, what was wrong with it?

Anyway, no one is going to be honest here. We don't know anything about these games, and people are just going to be biased towards the game on the other system.

Anyway, I'm more hyped for PD2 since I own a 360 and not a PS3.

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#57 Just_Osmo
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Everyone stop calling it PDZ2. Jesus PDZ was PD0 as in Zero. As in a prequel to PD1. Therefor it would never be labeled PDZ2, It would be PD2. PD0 - PD1 - PD2. It's simple counting people.
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#58 BioShockOwnz
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Gamespot scores only huh??

You systems wars dwellers have been saying that since I first joined Gamespot years ago.

And from back then I never understood trying to cancel out an average that INCLUDES Gamespot's score.

Perfect Dark 80.9%, Resistance 87.3% GET OVER IT

Stop comparing it is meaningless. This is even a bit worse than comparing Resistance to Halo. I mean come on anyone in their right mind knows Halo is better, and the scores prove it.

Comparing PD Zero to Resistance is just... just wow.

OmegaOrtega

Take your own advice. Resistance is a floppity flop. Too bad.:lol: Get over it!:cry:

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#59 bobaban
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Ugh gamerankings should settle this:

In short RFOM>PDZ

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#60 OmegaOrtega
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[QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"]

Gamespot scores only huh??

You systems wars dwellers have been saying that since I first joined Gamespot years ago.

And from back then I never understood trying to cancel out an average that INCLUDES Gamespot's score.

Perfect Dark 80.9%, Resistance 87.3% GET OVER IT

Stop comparing it is meaningless. This is even a bit worse than comparing Resistance to Halo. I mean come on anyone in their right mind knows Halo is better, and the scores prove it.

Comparing PD Zero to Resistance is just... just wow.

BioShockOwnz

Take your own advice. Resistance is a floppity flop. Too bad.:lol: Get over it!:cry:

K I will take the 87.3% and declare PDZ better.

Oh wait.. Perfect Dark Zero flopped harder..

There is no point in trying to argue against an average.

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#61 OmegaOrtega
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Ugh gamerankings should settle this:

In short RFOM>PDZ

bobaban

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#62 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"]

Gamespot scores only huh??

You systems wars dwellers have been saying that since I first joined Gamespot years ago.

And from back then I never understood trying to cancel out an average that INCLUDES Gamespot's score.

Perfect Dark 80.9%, Resistance 87.3% GET OVER IT

Stop comparing it is meaningless. This is even a bit worse than comparing Resistance to Halo. I mean come on anyone in their right mind knows Halo is better, and the scores prove it.

Comparing PD Zero to Resistance is just... just wow.

OmegaOrtega

Take your own advice. Resistance is a floppity flop. Too bad.:lol: Get over it!:cry:

K I will take the 87.3% and declare PDZ better.

Oh wait.. Perfect Dark Zero flopped harder..

There is no point in trying to argue against an average.

Too bad that means squat here, bud. Just get over it. Resistance = Flop and PDZ = Success. If you don't like following System Wars, then there's the door. Yes, it's a game here. Do I think we should follow 1 review? I don't care. But that's how it works and you're incorrect, I'm right.

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#63 TOTAL_DEFENSE_0
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who ever actually thinks that PDZ is better than RFoM is insane. RFoM is still one of the most fun games on PS3 and PDZ was a piece of ****. way way overrated. more so than even Gears of War. PDZ deserved at most a 7.0. There is no doubt that Resistance 2 will be better than PDZ2
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#64 nivet14
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Resistance flopped and PDZ didn't. There is no hope for Resistance 2 to do better if PD2 is atleast a tad bit better than PDZ and I'm not doubting it.BioShockOwnz
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#65 WOWZORS
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[QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"]

Gamespot scores only huh??

You systems wars dwellers have been saying that since I first joined Gamespot years ago.

And from back then I never understood trying to cancel out an average that INCLUDES Gamespot's score.

Perfect Dark 80.9%, Resistance 87.3% GET OVER IT

Stop comparing it is meaningless. This is even a bit worse than comparing Resistance to Halo. I mean come on anyone in their right mind knows Halo is better, and the scores prove it.

Comparing PD Zero to Resistance is just... just wow.

BioShockOwnz

Take your own advice. Resistance is a floppity flop. Too bad.:lol: Get over it!:cry:

K I will take the 87.3% and declare PDZ better.

Oh wait.. Perfect Dark Zero flopped harder..

There is no point in trying to argue against an average.

Too bad that means squat here, bud. Just get over it. Resistance = Flop and PDZ = Success. If you don't like following System Wars, then there's the door. Yes, it's a game here. Do I think we should follow 1 review? I don't care. But that's how it works and you're incorrect, I'm right.

Why did you buy a PS3? Bioshock Ownz all? Um what, Gamespot seems to differ, as a matter of fact, TONY HAWK OWNZ all. Im sorry your logic is just flawed. A game not achieving what YOU expected of it is a flop, a game other morons hyped to be the messiah is not a flop, if you didnt expect it to be that great. Your all in for a suprise with this 2008 line up for ps3 and 360, flops galore.
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#66 OmegaOrtega
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[QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"]

Gamespot scores only huh??

You systems wars dwellers have been saying that since I first joined Gamespot years ago.

And from back then I never understood trying to cancel out an average that INCLUDES Gamespot's score.

Perfect Dark 80.9%, Resistance 87.3% GET OVER IT

Stop comparing it is meaningless. This is even a bit worse than comparing Resistance to Halo. I mean come on anyone in their right mind knows Halo is better, and the scores prove it.

Comparing PD Zero to Resistance is just... just wow.

BioShockOwnz

Take your own advice. Resistance is a floppity flop. Too bad.:lol: Get over it!:cry:

K I will take the 87.3% and declare PDZ better.

Oh wait.. Perfect Dark Zero flopped harder..

There is no point in trying to argue against an average.

Too bad that means squat here, bud. Just get over it. Resistance = Flop and PDZ = Success. If you don't like following System Wars, then there's the door. Yes, it's a game here. Do I think we should follow 1 review? I don't care. But that's how it works and you're incorrect, I'm right.

Man you're real imature for someone who supposely uses PSN, Steam and XBL.

Anyways, Gamespots SW means squat to the real world. An avg is better than a single unit. Haven't you been through middle school math? Stop trying to argue against this.

Did I say you were right or wrong, or if I'm right or wrong? No so let's not begin this childish game, then again you already started the "I'm right" game. Want a cookie now kid?

Oh and thanks for showing me the door, was getting stuffy in here *cracks door open*.

No really thanks kid.

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#67 BioShockOwnz
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Wow, nice job at making little insults. Very mature.:roll: Calm down, they're just games and System Wars is just a place to post and have fun. You don't like how we decide flops in SW's, then okay, but don't tell me I'm wrong when you are.
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#68 OmegaOrtega
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Wow, nice job at making little insults. Very mature.:roll: Calm down, they're just games and System Wars is just a place to post and have fun. You don't like how we decide flops in SW's, then okay, but don't tell me I'm wrong when you are.BioShockOwnz

1) I haven't insulted you, yet.

2) I never said you were wrong kid.

LoL.. yeah you're real calm yourself.

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#70 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Wow, nice job at making little insults. Very mature.:roll: Calm down, they're just games and System Wars is just a place to post and have fun. You don't like how we decide flops in SW's, then okay, but don't tell me I'm wrong when you are.OmegaOrtega

1) I haven't insulted you, yet.

2) I never said you were wrong kid.

LoL.. yeah you're real calm yourself.

Awesome! :roll::lol:

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#71 jd7-03
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Who Honestly thought PDZ was better then RFOM?

GarchomPro

Everyone who has played BOTH games, which is me. RFOM is such a boring game, jeez I couldn't stand it, same thing over and over again, got old really quick. 9.0 for PDZ....remember that. Plus it doesn't help that no one plays RFOM online anymore while you can easily find populated PDZ servers.

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#72 OmegaOrtega
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[QUOTE="OmegaOrtega"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Wow, nice job at making little insults. Very mature.:roll: Calm down, they're just games and System Wars is just a place to post and have fun. You don't like how we decide flops in SW's, then okay, but don't tell me I'm wrong when you are.BioShockOwnz

1) I haven't insulted you, yet.

2) I never said you were wrong kid.

LoL.. yeah you're real calm yourself.

Awesome! :roll::lol:

Just like your icon.

And I'm not being sarcastic.

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#73 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]

Who Honestly thought PDZ was better then RFOM?

jd7-03

Everyone who has played BOTH games, which is me. RFOM is such a boring game, jeez I couldn't stand it, same thing over and over again, got old really quick. 9.0 for PDZ....remember that. Plus it doesn't help that no one plays RFOM online anymore while you can easily find populated PDZ servers.

Yep. I remember the first time I played PDZ everyone had headsets and everyone worked with a stragedy using the headsets while in Resistance it was like a free for all in a team base game,almost noone had headsets, it was just running around spawn killing, it got old very quick.

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#74 ArisShadows
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Both were okay, not further than that.

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#75 mistervengeance
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wow resistance is so much better anyone knows that
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#76 Dante2710
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ummmm they are making a PDZ2? :?
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#77 BTBAM127
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lemmings say cows allways say "(inseert game name) is a halo killer!" meanwhile this is pretty much the same thing the lemmings are saying now..... and we havent seen ither of the games!!and PDZ was ok for the time it came out and no one really seen anytihng like it before so this time around no that xbox has been out longer i doutb it will get the same score it got back when it launched.
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#78 Just_Osmo
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ummmm they are making a PDZ2? :?Dante2710

No, since PDZ was a PREQUEL to PD onthe 64. If they make it it will be a PD Sequel.

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#80 tool_rage
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Who Honestly thought PDZ was better then RFOM?

GarchomPro

They both sucked.

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#81 dream431ca
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PDZ was a very unimpressive game. Resistance was pretty good, but nothing spectacular, still good.

ROF2 is going to be much more fun then PDZ2 if they make a PDZ2.

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#82 ermacness
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don't you just like how lems will protest that a game is better than another one just because it outscored it here on GS without even considering that resistance OUTSOLD PDZ by a milestone and that on gameranking/metacritic resistance have a better overall score than PDZ, but lems only try to cut out enough hard core facts just to make their exclusive game look better than ours like: look here on GS, PDZ outscored resistance so it's a better game and don't worry about resistance selling more copies than PDZ and do not definately worry about resistance outscoring PDZ on gamerakingsor even on metacritic lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#83 club-sandwich
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[QUOTE="bobaban"]

Ugh gamerankings should settle this:

In short RFOM>PDZ

OmegaOrtega

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you're obviously a fakeboy, I'm sure you never played PDZ, you just bash it because alot of people do it.
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#84 Screen_name4
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pDZ and Resistance both suck and so does halo 3....
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#85 Art_424
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[QUOTE="H3llstrike"][QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]

Who Honestly thought PDZ was better then RFOM?

NavigatorsGhost

lemmings :)

AA is better then AAA to cows?:lol: If you cows don't like the scores in which you ignore don't let the door hit you on the way out.

the gamespot score for PDZ is a damn anomaly. Its pretty much understood that the game is over-rated on here, especially when several 360 owners admit that.

They still wont change the score, get over it.

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#86 mattyomo99
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if you think perfect dark is better then resistance, then you havnt played resistance. I have played both and PDZ didnt deserve anything over a 8

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#87 Art_424
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pDZ and Resistance both suck and so does halo 3....Screen_name4

Then you must suck at Halo and all those games.:shock:

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#88 BobHipJames
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Well, most people will likely say Resistance 2, because many believe PDZ to be overrated. Personally, I'll take PDZ2, just because I still have some faith in Rare as a dev and I absolutely loved the MP from PDZ.KodiakGTS

Are you serious? The multiplayer in PDZ was some of the worst I've ever played.

Meanwhile, Resistance maintains 40 player servers and multiple game modes/rank systems....

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#89 BobHipJames
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TC, try the splitter, the sapper, the auger, and the feedback grenade and try to maintain your premise.
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#90 wooooode
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]

Who Honestly thought PDZ was better then RFOM?

lt-rickhunter

lemmings :)

I doubt they even do.

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#91 Mercenary343
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I loved PDZ, although I can see why people hate it. Its for a very distinct taste, and there is a huge learning curve in the multiplayer.

I also heard Rare was making it much more realistic (instead of the cartoony character models), so my hopes are very high for this sequel.

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#92 Zenkuso
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I haven't played either so deciding which is better is just bs speculation at best.

Resistance was an alright fps, wasn't a messiah.

PDZ was an alright fps, wasn't a messiah.

Both devs will take what they learnt from making both an make them better. Both devs won't just sit around thinking they can pop out a reharsh and call it a day, specially rare who knows they have to nail the gameplay department this time cause of how badly they stuffed up in PDZ and the same will be down for resistance, they'll learn where they went wrong and fix it.

This whole this will be better then that based on first titles is stupid talk, coarse by dev teams they both are new to the fps genre (rare fps team is now free radical, no they left before microsoft ever bought rare) and because of it they have to learn how to make a game unique in a flooded genre. It isn't going to be a one sided fight until we have both games and know whats coming, heck rare could out of the blue nail PDZ2 (if they are even making it a prequel) and leave everyone scratching there heads and insomniac could flop Resistance ROM by not making anything new into the mix for it or vice versa.

It all comes down to who can make there game better and at the moment we just don't have a clue, going on baseless evidence that both games are following the same designs as before is stupid, specially in the FPS genre were you have to make yourself stand out or fail horribly.

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#93 set101
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I haven't played Resistance, but I do know that PD:0 is one of the most over rated games this gen (score wise)
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#94 Timstuff
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By lemming logic, Tony Hawk 3 is better than Halo. We do go by gamespot's scores here, but to use them to try and say Perfect Dark Zero is better than Resistance is completely moronic. Giving PDZ a 9.0 was one of the biggest head scratchers in Gamespot history, and it cannot be used to claim that the game is better than RFOM, because it's so painfully obvious that it's not. If a Gamespot editor told you that a Gremlin is better than a Porche, would we have to agree just because we're on gamespot? Heck no. Anyone who's played both games and isn't a hardcore lemming can tell that RFOM is leagues better than PDZ, so using the GS scores is irrelevent in this case. It truly is only a number, because it does not even come close to reflecting how superior Resistance is to PDZ.

It's a well known fact that giving PDZ a AAA was a major blunder on Gamespot. But what's truly pathetic is that Lemmings are trying to use a number to claim that a turd of a game is better than a gem of a game. It's downright shameful, and it is a blatant attempt to strip system wars of what little logic and rationale is left in it.

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By lemming logic, Tony Hawk 3 is better than Halo. We do go by gamespot's scores here, but to use them to try and say Perfect Dark Zero is better than Resistance is completely moronic. Giving PDZ a 9.0 was one of the biggest head scratchers in Gamespot history, and it cannot be used to claim that the game is better than RFOM, because it's so painfully obvious that it's not. If a Gamespot editor told you that a Gremlin is better than a Porche, would we have to agree just because we're on gamespot? Heck no. Anyone who's played both games and isn't a hardcore lemming can tell that RFOM is leagues better than PDZ, so using the GS scores is irrelevent in this case. It truly is only a number, because it does not even come close to reflecting how superior Resistance is to PDZ.Timstuff

Nope, that's how System Wars has worked forever. It's not lemming logic, bud.

It's all personal preference. Yes, other people prefer PDZ. Maybe you shouldn't be ignorant to other peoples tastes and call them moronic just because you don't agree.

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#96 Spartan070
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Rare - average GS FPS score = 95.3%
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#97 ChrisMun
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Isn't it a tad bit too early to be discussing this? Why not COD4 vs Halo 3 in the "better" or "fun" department?
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#98 BioShockOwnz
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Isn't it a tad bit too early to be discussing this? Why not COD4 vs Halo 3 in the "better" or "fun" department?ChrisMun

What would be the fun in that? They're both on 360..

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#99 Timstuff
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The fact of the matter is, that Perfect Dark Zero is clearly inferior to Resistance, and you don't need to go to a review site to know it, you just need to play the games. Gamespot's reviews are usually right, and I do not believe that Gamerankings should be the gold standard of Gamespot's forums, because we are at Gamespot. But in the case of Resistance vs. Perfect Dark Zero, Gamespot's scores simply do not reflect which game is better than the other. If you PLAY Resistance, you realise that it is superior to PDZ. If you are just a fanboy reading on a forum though, and you need PDZ to have the AAA score that it doesn't deserve for personal security, then you will fight tooth and nail that GS's scores are the end-all-be-all, even on the rare occasion that they are clearly wrong, or do not accurately reflect which game is better than another.

If Perfect Dark Zero and Resistance came out on the same day, Resistance would have gotten AAA while PDZ would have gotten a low AA, because RFOM IS A BETTER GAME.

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#100 ChrisMun
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[QUOTE="ChrisMun"]Isn't it a tad bit too early to be discussing this? Why not COD4 vs Halo 3 in the "better" or "fun" department?BioShockOwnz

What would be the fun in that? They're both on 360..

And? I see nothing wrong with discussing what's the more fun game here regard of what platform it's on. COD4 is on the PS3 as well ya know. And we all know there's a lot of Halo 3 hate on these threads. Would seem to be a fitting arguement.