[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="Vader993"]

i didn't write it

Vader993

thanks i stole from some guy off the killzone forums:oops:

GIFSoup

check out the vc8shotgun pistol in action

GIFSoup

Figured we could use a thread dedicated to beta talk, both for those in the beta and those merely interested in finding out how the game compares to Killzone 2 and other shooters.

This is a companion thread to the official thread, CGI. :P

I finally got to play for a few hours this afternoon (about to play some more), and here's how I think it compares to Killzone 2 so far.

Positives:

• New game modes. Guerrilla Warfare for the scrubs who can't handle the strategy involved in Warzone, Operations for those interested in a more scripted, cinematic affair.

• New ****system. You no longer start with nothing. Instead, all ****s are immediately available, and you can choose to upgrade whichever features from whichever ****you want with points gained through earning Exp. It gives you a lot more freedom, and it makes the game more fun for new players.

• Input lag is gone, making the controls much easier to initially grasp, and easier to ease back into after having not played for awhile. It just clicks faster.

• Assists. If you empty a clip into someone, then some other **** comes along and finishes him off, you still get points! Yay! Always annoyed me that Killzone 2 didn't have this.

• Brutal Melee System. Slitting an enemy's throat is downright awesome. Hell, even getting your own throat sliced ain't that bad, just because of the spectacle of it all.

• Graphics. Duh.

Neutral:

• Point pop-ups. I thought they'd annoy the piss out of me, but I actually barely notice them. For maybe a second I think "Yeah! 250 points!", then they're gone. It provides a more tangible indication of how much experience you're earning in a match, so on the whole I suppose it's a positive.

• Predetermined spawn points. The theory is good, and it removes the possibility of some idiot Tactician throwing a spawn point in a horrible location, and the **** that can arise from **** spawn placement, but some of the preset locations just seem stupid. In the level with the EMP, both spawn points can only be reached by multiple jumps with a jetpack right in the middle of the heaviest fighting. The only game in which I managed to capture one of the spawnpoints I ended up with a 15:25 K/D ratio, because you die so damn much just trying to get up there. And then whoever does get up there is free to camp the enemy's base below, which can be quite devastating to the other team given the current weapon design (see below).

Negatives:

• Almost every gun has too little recoil when using sights. Removing the input lag was an excellent and necessary move, but making recoil negligible for just about every gun when using ironsights/scope was a boneheaded move. It's clearly a knee-jerk reaction to all the hate KZ2 got. People screamed that they went left, and instead of aiming closer to the middle, they decided to go right, which is just as bad to many people. The LMG in particular is far too accurate, and I know first hand since I spend all my time as a Tactician. But GG have said they're working on it, in the LMG's case at least.

• Because of the lack of recoil, people die so much faster. You generally get mowed down pretty quick after spawning, and you feel like you're participating in the objectives less as a result. In general it feels you spend a lot less time on the strategy side of things, instead focusing solely on not dying. Fully regenerating health kinda makes up for this.

• No server lists. I would've preferred the control that server lists provide over matchmaking, but I understand why they went with matchmaking. It would've been nice to have both, but I guess that just isn't happening. Actually, my main issue with this is that you can't even select your own team. C'mon! Yeah, it's kinda needed for balance purposes, but you can at least let us select a preference. In KZ2, I played like 98% Helghast. You can't make me play as those ISA scum. =(

• Matchmaking is **** broken. I mean seriously. I'm sure it's WIP though, and will be much better by launch. This is Alpha code after all (which makes me wonder why they're calling it a beta).

On the whole, I prefer it quite a bit to Killzone 2. The current recoil of the weapons is my one main issue, but from what GG have said, it should at least be somewhat better by launch. I hope.

It'll definitely be more widely appealing than its predecessor, I'll say that.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=118468

I don't even know if having less recoil was on purpose or not but seriously it seems as if they forgot about the idea of adding recoil while aiming down sights haha, it's so insane. You should give feedback on the beta forums as well :)YuriSH

unfortunately i don't have the beta,but according to this thread there is going to be a patch

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone3/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-56904981&pid=996959

[QUOTE="YuriSH"]I don't even know if having less recoil was on purpose or not but seriously it seems as if they forgot about the idea of adding recoil while aiming down sights haha, it's so insane. You should give feedback on the beta forums as well :)Vader993

unfortunately i don't have the beta,but according to this thread there is going to be a patch

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone3/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-56904981&pid=996959

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13n7r0S-BEk

new gameplay shotgun

Operations Attack (ISA) [HD]

Guerrilla Warfare: Frozen Dam'

Guerilla Warfare #1

Guerrilla Warfare (25-2) [HD]

Guerrilla Warfare #1 (Team Deathmatch)

Guerrilla Warfare #3 (Team Deathmatch)

No server list, what on earth? I better not get a lot of lag. Nice vids though, Operations looks like Bad Company's Rush.

Guerilla Warfare #3 StA14 Gameplay

Guerilla Warfare #4 LS13 Shotgun Gameplay

Guerrilla Warfare #2 (Team Deathmatch)

Public Beta - Gameplay #1

Gameplay #2

Gameplay #3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLL2DjLqxW8

Killzone 3 Helghast Edition

ME WANTS :cry:

Guerrilla Pack (available by pre-ordering from GameStop) Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive a GameStop Exclusive PSN code unlocking all multiplayer weapons and abilities for the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay giving you a temporary edge in the online battlefield. Also includes the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack, featuring two of the most popular maps from Killzone 2.

Since I'm not in the beta, I might as well do it.

Got to decide if I want Best Buys double exp bonus for 24h (with retro maps), or gamestop's all weapons unlock for 24h (plus retro maps) pre odrer bonuses...

Leaning towards BB.

Killzone 3 Helghast Edition

ME WANTS :cry:

Orchid87

Guerrilla Pack (available by pre-ordering from GameStop) Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive a GameStop Exclusive PSN code unlocking all multiplayer weapons and abilities for the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay giving you a temporary edge in the online battlefield. Also includes the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack, featuring two of the most popular maps from Killzone 2.

Since I'm not in the beta, I might as well do it.

mitu123

Killzone 3 Helghast Edition

ME WANTS :cry:

Orchid87

Please note that this information applies to the USrelease of Killzone 3

the US release

the US release

the US release

KZ Website

Noooooo, we EU folk we better get this. Helghast helmet, man.

Helghast Helmet.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Guerrilla Pack (available by pre-ordering from GameStop) Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive a GameStop Exclusive PSN code unlocking all multiplayer weapons and abilities for the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay giving you a temporary edge in the online battlefield. Also includes the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack, featuring two of the most popular maps from Killzone 2.

Since I'm not in the beta, I might as well do it.

RavenLoud

On February 22, 2011, Killzone 3 will storm store shelves in more ways than one. Killzone 3 will be available in a limited Helghast Edition as well as the standard edition.

The Killzone 3 Helghast Edition ($129.99) is a must-have for the fans. This one-of-a-kind set features a collectible replica of a Helghast Helmet containing an art book, Super Voucher (see below for contents) and the Killzone 3 game with bonus content. Also included is an exclusive Cloaking Helghast Marksman action figure created by DC Unlimited, that will not be sold anywhere else.

Features

• Authentic Helghast Helmet replica opens to reveal art book, Super Voucher and Killzone 3 game.
• Exclusive Cloaking Helghast Marksman action figure is 6.5" tall with multiple articulation points and will not be sold at retail
• Includes bonus video content giving you a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the game.
• Exclusive art book featuring imagery from the Killzone universe
• Super Voucher includes
  • Killzone 3 soundtrack and PS3 Dynamic Theme
  • Retro Map Pack featuring two of the most popular multiplayer maps from Killzone 2
  • Double XP for the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay
  • Full access to all weapons and abilities during the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay

Download packs are also available separately if you'd rather pre-order the standard edition Killzone 3 at one of the proceeding retailers.

Guerrilla Pack (available by pre-ordering from GameStop)

Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive a GameStop Exclusive PSN code unlocking all multiplayer weapons and abilities for the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay giving you a temporary edge in the online battlefield. Also includes the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack, featuring two of the most popular maps from Killzone 2.

Fast Starter Pack (available by pre-ordering from Best Buy)

Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive a Best Buy Exclusive PSN code allowing you to rank up faster, as you earn XP at double the normal rate for the first 24 hours of multiplayer gameplay. Also includes the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack.

Unlock and Load Pack (available by pre-ordering from Amazon)

Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive an Amazon.com Exclusive PSN code and get instant access to 3 Unlock Points to use on the weapon or ability of your choice such as the Marksman's Sniper Rifle and get the early edge in Killzone 3 Multiplayer. Also includes the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack.

Retro Map Pack (available by pre-ordering from other participating retailers)

Pre-order Killzone 3 and receive an exclusive PSN code giving you the Killzone 3 Retro Map Pack, featuring two of the most popular maps from Killzone 2. Also receive an exclusive PlayStation 3 Dynamic Theme.

Killzone 3 will be available in North America on February 22, 2011 for $59.99 and the Helghast Edition will be available on the same date for $129.99. Pre-order today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJMdTSOMeqQ

gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS6PWpa_oGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS6PWpa_oGc

Vader993

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Killzone 3 Helghast Edition

ME WANTS :cry:

BigBoss154

Please note that this information applies to the USrelease of Killzone 3

the US release

the US release

the US release

KZ Website

Noooooo, we EU folk we better get this. Helghast helmet, man.

Helghast Helmet.

Oh... oh well...

=(

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Killzone 3 Helghast Edition

ME WANTS :cry:

Orchid87

Please note that this information applies to the USrelease of Killzone 3

the US release

the US release

the US release

KZ Website

Noooooo, we EU folk we better get this. Helghast helmet, man.

Helghast Helmet.

Oh... oh well...

=(

you guys are getting the helghast edition

http://www.killzone.com/kz3/en_US/blog/news/2010-10-28_helghast-edition.html

read the commments below

apparently they has been a recoil patch

http://community.killzone.com/t5/Killzone-3-PS3/New-Beta-patch-added-recoil/td-p/543141

Melee/commentary

apparently they has been a recoil patch

http://community.killzone.com/t5/Killzone-3-PS3/New-Beta-patch-added-recoil/td-p/543141

Vader993

I just got into the beta today and have clocked in 4-6 hours. The game is just amazing. Heres my small rundown + Operations is awesome; watching your guy maybe plant the bomb in the cinematic is really cool + Mechs handle pretty well, and they are somewhat easy to take down too + No gun is overpowered (from my experience) + No class is overpowered (from my experience) + The new class system is a great addition + Jetpacks are far and beyond more than I expected; AMAZING + CONTROLS are similar to Killzone 2's but have been vastly improved. - I've been spawn killed/camped a couple of times already - Framerate drops OFTEN - Small amount of weapons (not a big one to be honest) And thats about it :)killa4lyfe

remember to reports your problems for the beta to gg

incoming new gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtULgbBYSC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXQx7EP_po&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fewg5B7nZg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbUcF7KpLbo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXdfFa7HKY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iqvQTJilpc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CI_1MlGhbY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uupz8_nTHNk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM-sGr59QLA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7qi8Tz135M&feature=related

enjoy:)

What classic maps would you guys like for that 1st day DLC? The first map I want to be Salamun Market and the second I'm not sure, I am torn between Blood Gracht and Helghan Industries.

What classic maps would you guys like for that 1st day DLC? The first map I want to be Salamun Market and the second I'm not sure, I am torn between Blood Gracht and Helghan Industries.

Orchid87

the train level. One of the most creative FPS levels created in years.

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

AAA I guess. Polish >> Innovation these days.

WhenCicadasCry

Polish is very important *looks at F:NV*

I'm calling 8.5

Lol true.

KZ2 is my favorite console FPS but I have serious doubts about KZ3 taking it's place. Less recoil, less gritty weight, more floaty feel and strange classes' weapon selection kill it for me :?

What classic maps would you guys like for that 1st day DLC? The first map I want to be Salamun Market and the second I'm not sure, I am torn between Blood Gracht and Helghan Industries.

Orchid87

no radec academy or tharsis refinery i hate those maps

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

What classic maps would you guys like for that 1st day DLC? The first map I want to be Salamun Market and the second I'm not sure, I am torn between Blood Gracht and Helghan Industries.

Vader993

no radec academy or tharsis refinery i hate those maps

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Vader993"]

no radec academy or tharsis refinery i hate those maps

Vader993

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