The Old Republic sold out on Amazon! Beating BF3 in sales.

Star wars the old republic is sold out on UK Amazon and beating BF3 in sales. Looking on US Amazon even the overpriced collectors edition is beating BF3 in sales.

Link please?

How can The Old Republic beat crappy generic military shooter in sales!? no way o.O

Link please?

Mograine

UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/676427011/ref=amb_link_84068953_6?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=0J2WXWEAWZS2EJ7MNW75&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=242973787&pf_rd_i=300729

US

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/229575/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_229575_morl?pf_rd_p=1279986782&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=229575&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1E82YDJ4BF7MP7GMH8B3

How can The Old Republic beat crappy generic military shooter in sales!? no way o.O

Zurrur

Cause CoD ain't in the name and BF3 ain't crappy and generic :evil:

Wow a game that was just put on there is beating a game thats been there for 160+ days?

So many people want to play a carebear-oriented wow-clone? Jeez.

So many people want to play a carebear-oriented wow-clone? Jeez.

QQabitmoar

MMO's often have good sales leading up, its all about sustained rate. We can judge if its a success only after ~6 months on the market (as much as I know that makes the fanboys who want an answer NAOW! mad)

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

So many people want to play a carebear-oriented wow-clone? Jeez.

Ravenchrome

What?

Blizzard popularized the casualisation and the carebear-oriented nature in MMOs. Any MMO that has no open PvP and PKing system, and no decent death penalty, be it item, xp or money loss, is a carebear-oriented, casual-fest. And it was WoW that popularized that and casualised the genre.

Crap I'm from the uk and haven't preordered it will they stock more? ordering this within the hour.

I can't believe people are actually hyping this garbage.

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

So many people want to play a carebear-oriented wow-clone? Jeez.

QQabitmoar

What?

Blizzard popularized the casualisation and the carebear-oriented nature in MMOs. Any MMO that has no open PvP and PKing system, and no decent death penalty, be it item, xp or money loss, is a carebear-oriented, casual-fest. And it was WoW that popularized that and casualised the genre.

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

So many people want to play a carebear-oriented wow-clone? Jeez.

QQabitmoar

What?

Blizzard popularized the casualisation and the carebear-oriented nature in MMOs. Any MMO that has no open PvP and PKing system, and no decent death penalty, be it item, xp or money loss, is a carebear-oriented, casual-fest. And it was WoW that popularized that and casualised the genre.

There's a penalty for dying in WoW.. I suppose it could go under the money loss section since that's what it effectively does.

I can't believe people are actually hyping this garbage.

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

What?

Blizzard popularized the casualisation and the carebear-oriented nature in MMOs. Any MMO that has no open PvP and PKing system, and no decent death penalty, be it item, xp or money loss, is a carebear-oriented, casual-fest. And it was WoW that popularized that and casualised the genre.

BigDaddyPOLO

I would say Runescape is more "hardcore" than a lot of these casual themeparks that plague the genre.

You do realize there are plenty of mmorpgs out there with actual death penalties such as losing xp even deleveling, dropping items, severe money loss, WoW has some, but its tiny and pretty insignificant.

EvE Online, Ultima Online, those were some fine games, EvE online is pretty darn hardcore. Notorious for it even.

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

How can The Old Republic beat crappy generic military shooter in sales!? no way o.O

NoodleFighter

Cause CoD ain't in the name and BF3 ain't crappy and generic :evil:

I'm thinking about pre-ordering the Collector's Edition from the UK myself, since it won't be available in my country, from what I've heard.

The Old Republic? Sorry, I dont watch Star Trek. But that's alot of nerd pre-ordering.illmatic87

8k posts in a gaming forum. You don't have a right to flame those "nerds"

I'm thinking about pre-ordering the Collector's Edition from the UK myself, since it won't be available in my country, from what I've heard.

SkyWard20

I highly recommend you do so then.Oh yeah, and if you pre-order a collectors edition you get to play the game a whole week early. So yeah, go pre-order it.

Do you know why it wont appear in the UK if what you hear is true?

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

I'm thinking about pre-ordering the Collector's Edition from the UK myself, since it won't be available in my country, from what I've heard.

Maroxad

I highly recommend you do so then.Oh yeah, and if you pre-order a collectors edition you get to play the game a whole week early. So yeah, go pre-order it.

Do you know why it wont appear in the UK if what you hear is true?

No, no. I'm not from the UK myself. :P

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

I'm thinking about pre-ordering the Collector's Edition from the UK myself, since it won't be available in my country, from what I've heard.

Maroxad

I highly recommend you do so then.Oh yeah, and if you pre-order a collectors edition you get to play the game a whole week early. So yeah, go pre-order it.

Do you know why it wont appear in the UK if what you hear is true?

Its sold in the UK, its just that Game brought the rights to sell the Collector's Edition. Its £130..

http://www.game.co.uk/PC-Games-and-Downloads/RolePlaying/MMORPG/~r356097/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-CE-Online/

Well, Battlefield 3 is in number 5, so i don't really see the big deal.

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

I can't believe people are actually hyping this garbage.

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

What?

Blizzard popularized the casualisation and the carebear-oriented nature in MMOs. Any MMO that has no open PvP and PKing system, and no decent death penalty, be it item, xp or money loss, is a carebear-oriented, casual-fest. And it was WoW that popularized that and casualised the genre.

Maroxad

I would say Runescape is more "hardcore" than a lot of these casual themeparks that plague the genre.

You do realize there are plenty of mmorpgs out there with actual death penalties such as losing xp even deleveling, dropping items, severe money loss, WoW has some, but its tiny and pretty insignificant.

EvE Online, Ultima Online, those were some fine games, EvE online is pretty darn hardcore. Notorious for it even.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

I'm thinking about pre-ordering the Collector's Edition from the UK myself, since it won't be available in my country, from what I've heard.

mattuk69

I highly recommend you do so then.Oh yeah, and if you pre-order a collectors edition you get to play the game a whole week early. So yeah, go pre-order it.

Do you know why it wont appear in the UK if what you hear is true?

Its sold in the UK, its just that Game brought the rights to sell the Collector's Edition. Its £130..

http://www.game.co.uk/PC-Games-and-Downloads/RolePlaying/MMORPG/~r356097/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-CE-Online/

I wanted to pre-order from there. Do you know, does Game really ship everywhere in Europe?

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

I can't believe people are actually hyping this garbage.

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

What?

Blizzard popularized the casualisation and the carebear-oriented nature in MMOs. Any MMO that has no open PvP and PKing system, and no decent death penalty, be it item, xp or money loss, is a carebear-oriented, casual-fest. And it was WoW that popularized that and casualised the genre.

Maroxad

I would say Runescape is more "hardcore" than a lot of these casual themeparks that plague the genre.

You do realize there are plenty of mmorpgs out there with actual death penalties such as losing xp even deleveling, dropping items, severe money loss, WoW has some, but its tiny and pretty insignificant.

EvE Online, Ultima Online, those were some fine games, EvE online is pretty darn hardcore. Notorious for it even.

Spent years playing Lineage 2. Not quite as hardcore as EvE, but losing 4% xp that takes a few hundreds of mobs to regain, was kinda painful. It was all about the PvP though, and seeing all those new MMOs trying to separate PvP and PvE, with factions, and bgs, and all that. No. You should earn your PvE, fight the other guild/clan for that raid, and the best takes it. Instances are the worst thing to happen to MMOs imo. MMOs are not about the story, they are about player interaction.

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

How can The Old Republic beat crappy generic military shooter in sales!? no way o.O

NoodleFighter

Cause CoD ain't in the name and BF3 ain't crappy and generic :evil:

The new multiplayer trailer they released recently confirmed that its crappy and generic so agreed with him imo tho, dosent look diffrent from BC2 which i did not enjoy playing

Well, Skyward20 I dont know. What I do know is that they do accept orders from people outside the UK, but I dont know if they actually send them.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I would say Runescape is more "hardcore" than a lot of these casual themeparks that plague the genre.

You do realize there are plenty of mmorpgs out there with actual death penalties such as losing xp even deleveling, dropping items, severe money loss, WoW has some, but its tiny and pretty insignificant.

EvE Online, Ultima Online, those were some fine games, EvE online is pretty darn hardcore. Notorious for it even.

QQabitmoar

Spent years playing Lineage 2. Not quite as hardcore as EvE, but losing 4% xp that takes a few hundreds of mobs to regain, was kinda painful. It was all about the PvP though, and seeing all those new MMOs trying to separate PvP and PvE, with factions, and bgs, and all that. No. You should earn your PvE, fight the other guild/clan for that raid, and the best takes it. Instances are the worst thing to happen to MMOs imo. MMOs are not about the story, they are about player interaction.

Ahh, Linage 2, I havent played it myself, but I heard outside of the grind, it was pretty darn good. I agree with what you are saying, PvP and PvE are very seperate in modern mmos and usually it feels like PvP is nothing more than a mere minigame, all you lose if you lose a PvP fight is some time. Remember in many sandbox mmos where there was actual interceptions, guild warfare, territory control, espionage, player politics ect.

While the actual PvP in EverQuest 2 wasnt that great itself, the ideas behind it were. as players could loot fallen enemies, attack anyone if they were an exile (neutral faction). 80% or so of the PvP server population seemed to be exile, as it meant they could attack anyone they pleased unburdened by restrictive factions.

Oh and btw, are you hyped for ArcheAge? It is made by Jake Song, who developed the Lineage games.

The Old Republic? Sorry, I dont watch Star Trek. But that's alot of nerd pre-ordering.illmatic87

"Nerds!" says the guy who likes anime...oh the irony is almost unbearable.

How does a game that isn't out yet, sell out? foxhound_fox

Only the Special Edition is sold out i guess it had a good demand and they don't know if they can get more copies of it from the publisher, at least that's what they said.

How does a game that isn't out yet, sell out? foxhound_fox

EA are limiting the amount of pre-orders, this is because they want to control the launch population, as those who preorder will get to play the game 7 days early if they got the Collectors edition, and 3 days early if they got the normal edition.

Most likely for server stability. Something which plagues many mmo launches.

Game looks meh at best. Will not bother with it since WOW killed my MMO spirit.

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I highly recommend you do so then.Oh yeah, and if you pre-order a collectors edition you get to play the game a whole week early. So yeah, go pre-order it.

Do you know why it wont appear in the UK if what you hear is true?

SkyWard20

Its sold in the UK, its just that Game brought the rights to sell the Collector's Edition. Its £130..

http://www.game.co.uk/PC-Games-and-Downloads/RolePlaying/MMORPG/~r356097/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-CE-Online/

I wanted to pre-order from there. Do you know, does Game really ship everywhere in Europe?

Game looks meh at best. Will not bother with it since WOW killed my MMO spirit.

Truth_Hurts_U

What really baffles me is that people still want to play lackluster hotkey MMOs.

Well, Skyward20 I dont know. What I do know is that they do accept orders from people outside the UK, but I dont know if they actually send them.

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I would say Runescape is more "hardcore" than a lot of these casual themeparks that plague the genre.

You do realize there are plenty of mmorpgs out there with actual death penalties such as losing xp even deleveling, dropping items, severe money loss, WoW has some, but its tiny and pretty insignificant.

EvE Online, Ultima Online, those were some fine games, EvE online is pretty darn hardcore. Notorious for it even.

Maroxad

Spent years playing Lineage 2. Not quite as hardcore as EvE, but losing 4% xp that takes a few hundreds of mobs to regain, was kinda painful. It was all about the PvP though, and seeing all those new MMOs trying to separate PvP and PvE, with factions, and bgs, and all that. No. You should earn your PvE, fight the other guild/clan for that raid, and the best takes it. Instances are the worst thing to happen to MMOs imo. MMOs are not about the story, they are about player interaction.

Ahh, Linage 2, I havent played it myself, but I heard outside of the grind, it was pretty darn good. I agree with what you are saying, PvP and PvE are very seperate in modern mmos and usually it feels like PvP is nothing more than a mere minigame, all you lose if you lose a PvP fight is some time. Remember in many sandbox mmos where there was actual interceptions, guild warfare, territory control, espionage, player politics ect.

While the actual PvP in EverQuest 2 wasnt that great itself, the ideas behind it were. as players could loot fallen enemies, attack anyone if they were an exile (neutral faction). 80% or so of the PvP server population seemed to be exile, as it meant they could attack anyone they pleased unburdened by restrictive factions.

Oh and btw, are you hyped for ArcheAge? It is made by Jake Song, who developed the Lineage games.

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]How does a game that isn't out yet, sell out? madsnakehhh

Only the Special Edition is sold out i guess it had a good demand and they don't know if they can get more copies of it from the publisher, at least that's what they said.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Oh and btw, are you hyped for ArcheAge? It is made by Jake Song, who developed the Lineage games.

QQabitmoar

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

Nice to see someone else hyped for ArcheAge. Indeed the game is everything we could ask for in an mmo, if it delivers on everything it promises to do, it might be the game of the gen.

Forget SWTOR, forget GW2. Archeage looks more ambitious than both... combined.

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

QQabitmoar

So you want another korean grinder? If that's what qualifies as a good MMO count me out.

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

GD1551

So you want another korean grinder? If that's what qualifies as a good MMO count me out.

No, what we want is a game with tonnes of freedom, player politics, interactive world and meaningful PvP. Something that mmos like SWTOR and WoW lacks.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

Maroxad

So you want another korean grinder? If that's what qualifies as a good MMO count me out.

No, what we want is a game with tonnes of freedom, player politics, interactive world and meaningful PvP. Something that mmos like SWTOR and WoW lacks.

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

QQabitmoar

Yeah, have fun with that Korean grinder. :)

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Oh and btw, are you hyped for ArcheAge? It is made by Jake Song, who developed the Lineage games.

Maroxad

I am SO hyped about Archeage :D Not only made by the man who made L1 and L2, not only can you build ur own house/ship/castle, but it's also powered by Cryengine 3! What else to ask in an MMO! Sandbox gameplay with open pvp and all that goodness, decent questing and crafting as I hear, and fantastic visuals.

Forget SWTOR, forget GW2. Archeage looks more ambitious than both... combined.

I can almsot certainly bet you that GW2 and ToR will heavily outscore and outsell archeage, a niche korean grind high end pc requiring MMO.

That the Star Wars fans for you.... HarlockJC

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

No, what we want is a game with tonnes of freedom, player politics, interactive world and meaningful PvP. Something that mmos like SWTOR and WoW lacks.

mattuk69

Game isnt out yet, so I dont know how grindy the game will be. However if Lineage is any indication it will be very grindy. However, unlike Themepark mmos the game wont start once you hit the level cap.

[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

No, what we want is a game with tonnes of freedom, player politics, interactive world and meaningful PvP. Something that mmos like SWTOR and WoW lacks.

Maroxad

Game isnt out yet, so I dont know how grindy the game will be. However if Lineage is any indication it will be very grindy. However, unlike Themepark mmos the game wont start once you hit the level cap.

ToR starts at level 1. The entire leveling process is like playing KoTor with other people.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"] Is that with or without a life? I work 12 hours a day, some ppl can't spend a huge amount of time with some MMO's.Jankarcop

Game isnt out yet, so I dont know how grindy the game will be. However if Lineage is any indication it will be very grindy. However, unlike Themepark mmos the game wont start once you hit the level cap.

ToR starts at level 1. The entire leveling process is like playing KoTor with other people.

For TOR perhaps. Which is one thing that looks good about it. A problem with many themepark mmos out there is that the levelling experience basicly serves as a glorified tutorial.

Edit: But that is one of the few positive things I have to say about TOR. GW2 looks good though, but I am more interested in ArcheAge.

TOR will sell well which is a given, I mean it has hype, heavy emphasis on story, Bioware and Star Wars. Though the question is, how many will stay after a year?