The one thing that could save the Wii U

Seriously... Nintendo, f*cking get your head out of your ass and make a Pokemon HD. A real Pokemon HD, a true blue, full fledged mainline Pokemon game. Make it share the same universe as the upcoming X and Y. Maybe make it a sequel to X and Y, but Wii U only. Release it next year if you have to, to give X and Y breathing space.

• Fully online compatible, with full Miiverse support
• Full 3D, HD graphics, a full fledged open world
• All 700+ Pokemon
• Wii U pad support, with Off TV Play supported, to keep the 'portable' nature of the games intact
• Random online battling, online tournaments, online trading, and online co-op
• Persistent game world, with an aftergame supported by periodic DLC quests. Maybe sell Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Unova as DLC areas.
• NFC compatible. Buy toys to unlock special Pokemon in game. Ban them from ranked tournaments to make sure the game stays balanced.
• Since Game Freak a) takes a lot of time with game development, and b) is completely unfamiliar with console game development, outsource it. Give it to Level 5. As games like Dragon Quest VIII, Rogue Galaxy, Dark Cloud, and Ni No Kuni demonstrate, they are more than up to the task.

DO IT NINTENDO. More than any other game, Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Zelda, anything, this is what will give you sustained sales for your home console. There is still time to save it, if you do it, so... do it already.

Or Mario in da swimming pool!

:P

 

MFDOOM1983

A real Pokemon HD, a true blue, full fledged mainline Pokemon game.charizard1605

Never going to happen.

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

I think it would sell great if they do make it.

Never going to happen.

Renegade_Fury

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

psymon100

I think it would sell great if they do make it.

Nintendo_Ownes7

 

MFDOOM1983

Maybe this time things will be different. Ha Ha Ha, no.

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

psymon100

But Game Freak was going to make a console Pokemon game but it was cancelled it was going to be on the N64.

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

psymon100

 

Maybe this time things will be different. Ha Ha Ha, no.

MFDOOM1983

So much yes. But yay, another Wii U thread.

So much yes. But yay, another Wii U thread.

Michael0134567

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

Game Freak said they want the main series to be Handheld only currently.

But Game Freak was going to make a console Pokemon game but it was cancelled it was going to be on the N64.

Nintendo_Ownes7

No, it's because Nintendo is convinced the series needs to stay handheld only for some reasoncharizard1605

OK. The answer is inconclusive. Does this help?

From here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/09/why-wont-nintendo-make-a-pokemon-console-game/

This may seem like an odd declaration, but Im not the one making it. Its actually from Game Freak co-founder Junichi Masuda who stated his own reasons for not believing the game is for consoles:

I dont think so. I think the Pokemon core series is always going to be with handheld hardware, in the future as well. I consider handheld hardware you can carry around with you as almost being equal to being with Pokemon, always. I think handheld really matches the idea of Pokemon that we have. Also, you can communicate and transfer data all the time, whenever you want with a handheld. Thats also a match with the Pokemon concept.

So much yes. But yay, another Wii U thread.

Michael0134567

berry the wii u threads in a desolate wasteland like new scotland

not even jesus descending from heavan can save Wii U and Nintendo now.  

That would sell a few units. Kiddies and manchilds love pokemon

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Game Freak said they want the main series to be Handheld only currently.

But Game Freak was going to make a console Pokemon game but it was cancelled it was going to be on the N64.

psymon100

No, it's because Nintendo is convinced the series needs to stay handheld only for some reasoncharizard1605

OK. The answer is inconclusive. Does this help?

From here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/09/why-wont-nintendo-make-a-pokemon-console-game/

This may seem like an odd declaration, but Im not the one making it. Its actually from Game Freak co-founder Junichi Masuda who stated his own reasons for not believing the game is for consoles:

I dont think so. I think the Pokemon core series is always going to be with handheld hardware, in the future as well. I consider handheld hardware you can carry around with you as almost being equal to being with Pokemon, always. I think handheld really matches the idea of Pokemon that we have. Also, you can communicate and transfer data all the time, whenever you want with a handheld. Thats also a match with the Pokemon concept.

That would sell a few units. Kiddies and manchilds love pokemon

El_Garbanzo

Nintendo probrably thinks the main appeal of Pokemon (other than, you know, tiny creatures) is the fact that you can take your Pokemon anywhere. To the bus, to the movies, to the bathroom, etc.  When you try to capture Lugia is it better to sit on your couch, then having to leave your game on so you can continue the fight later? Or is it better to close your game on handhelds, continue your day as usual, then open it back up and continue what you were doing? Accessibility is the key here. And with Pokemon JUST entering 3D on the 3DS, I don't think Nintendo has any plans to transfer full fledged Pokemon to consoles.

...But I would kill for Pokemon to be on consoles. But it won't happen anytime soon.

Nintendo need to increase the size and amount of studios they have so they can get more of their games out and quicker. They need to learn to be more efficient too, western studios have shown many times that it's entirely possible to make a AAA game from scratch in two to three years.

On topic, yes Pokemon would help but it's not enough. Even with games like this the system is far too expensive when compared to alternative options.

Nintendo probrably thinks the main appeal of Pokemon (other than, you know, tiny creatures) is the fact that you can take your Pokemon anywhere. To the bus, to the movies, to the bathroom, etc.  When you try to capture Lugia is it better to sit on your couch, then having to leave your game on so you can continue the fight later? Or is it better to close your game on handhelds, continue your day as usual, then open it back up and continue what you were doing? Accessibility is the key here. And with Pokemon JUST entering 3D on the 3DS, I don't think Nintendo has any plans to transfer full fledged Pokemon to consoles.

...But I would kill for Pokemon to be on consoles. But it won't happen anytime soon.

Agent-Tojed

[QUOTE="psymon100"]

Does the main barrier lie with Game Freak?

OK. The answer is inconclusive. Does this help?

From here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/09/why-wont-nintendo-make-a-pokemon-console-game/

This may seem like an odd declaration, but Im not the one making it. Its actually from Game Freak co-founder Junichi Masuda who stated his own reasons for not believing the game is for consoles:

I dont think so. I think the Pokemon core series is always going to be with handheld hardware, in the future as well. I consider handheld hardware you can carry around with you as almost being equal to being with Pokemon, always. I think handheld really matches the idea of Pokemon that we have. Also, you can communicate and transfer data all the time, whenever you want with a handheld. Thats also a match with the Pokemon concept.

charizard1605

Edit* I thought the Pokémon IP is owned 1/3 by Nintendo, 1/3rd by The Pokémon Company, and 1/3rd by Game Freak.

But Nintendo owns 2/3rds of the Pokémon Company because they also own Creatures Inc.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

So much yes. But yay, another Wii U thread.

freedomfreak

Thanks.

Yes you're quite right, ownership is with Nintendo. And this guy's speech, is about why he doesn't think it would, rather than actual reasons why they wouldn't. 

In conclusion, I think you're right. Barriers lie with Nintendo. 

Yes you're quite right, ownership is with Nintendo. And this guy's speech, is about why he doesn't think it would, rather than actual reasons why they wouldn't. 

In conclusion, I think you're right. Barriers lie with Nintendo. 

psymon100

I thought it was the Pokémon Company's decision but the Pokémon Company is 1/3rd owned by Nintendo, 1/3rd owned by Creatures Inc., and 1/3rd owned by Game Freak.

The Pokémon IP is owned 1/3 by Nintendo, 1/3rd by The Pokémon Company, and 1/3rd by Game Freak.

Nintendo_Ownes7

The Pokemon Company is itself 1/3 Nintendo, 1/3 Creatures, 1/3 Game Freak.

Creatures itself has a 20% Nintendo stake. 

So you see, Nintendo basically has the majority stake in Pokemon. They can decide what to do with it. They can decide where the games should go.

I think it would sell great if they do make it.

Nintendo_Ownes7

System seller for sure.

The Pokemon IP is owned 1/3 by Nintendo, 1/3 by The Pokemon Company, 1/3 by Game Freak.

The Pokemon Company is itself 1/3 Nintendo, 1/3 Creatures, 1/3 Game Freak.

Creatures itself has a 20% Nintendo stake. 

So you see, Nintendo basically has the majority stake in Pokemon. They can decide what to do with it. They can decide where the games should go.

charizard1605

ummm ... ok .... but who owns the fourth third?

The rights to the IP lie with Nintendo. They own Pokemon. At worst, Game Freak can refuse to develop a mainline series game on a console, but like I said in the OP, that does not stop Nintendo from outsourcing it to a studio like Level 5 (or developing it in house), and making a mainline game on a console anyway.

charizard1605

The rights to the IP are shared between Nintendo and GameFreak. Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak and can't make a game without their approval.

The rights to the IP are shared between Nintendo and GameFreak. Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak and can't make a game without their approval.

metroidfood

ummm ... ok .... but who owns the fourth third?

CrownKingArthur

What part of 'mainline, full fledged Pokemon RPG' is hard for you to understand, exactly? Or are you just trolling to troll?charizard1605

I honestly don't think it makes that much of a difference, though. Say what you want about Colosseum and XD not being "mainline, full-fledged" games, they did still show the shortcomings that come with a console Pokemon game, and they didn't have nearly the same level of success as the handheld games did. There's no guarantee Wii U sales would dramatically pick up even if Nintendo did this, especially with where the system stands at this point.

I also think that such a game you speak of would take longer than a year to put together. Unless Nintendo decided to give the Wii U version the ol' 3DS-to-Wii U port job, I suspect that this would require a healthy amount of resources. Furthermore, if it's an extention of X/Y, it also becomes less appealing as a whole, as most players of those two games would have already experienced the world without the need to get a Wii U.

I believe you're asking for too much. On top of that, Pokemon is just a series that works hand-in-hand to the strengths of portable platforms, making it even tougher for Nintendo to consider using such resources for a game when the 3DS would always be a stronger option.

Not another colleseum. But a rpg like the GBA ones would be sweet. Make the battles 3D and HD. Online battles would work like colleseum but you use your same pokemon from your story mode. Have like brackets for different leveled pokemon to keep it somewhat fair. It would sell big time.

Even IF a pokemon game releases, Will people buy it? Will save the Wii U?faizan_faizan

Not another colleseum. But a rpg like the GBA ones would be sweet. Make the battles 3D and HD. Online battles would work like colleseum but you use your same pokemon from your story mode. Have like brackets for different leveled pokemon to keep it somewhat fair. It would sell big time.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="Agent-Tojed"]

Nintendo probrably thinks the main appeal of Pokemon (other than, you know, tiny creatures) is the fact that you can take your Pokemon anywhere. To the bus, to the movies, to the bathroom, etc.  When you try to capture Lugia is it better to sit on your couch, then having to leave your game on so you can continue the fight later? Or is it better to close your game on handhelds, continue your day as usual, then open it back up and continue what you were doing? Accessibility is the key here. And with Pokemon JUST entering 3D on the 3DS, I don't think Nintendo has any plans to transfer full fledged Pokemon to consoles.

...But I would kill for Pokemon to be on consoles. But it won't happen anytime soon.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Agent-Tojed"]

Nintendo probrably thinks the main appeal of Pokemon (other than, you know, tiny creatures) is the fact that you can take your Pokemon anywhere. To the bus, to the movies, to the bathroom, etc.  When you try to capture Lugia is it better to sit on your couch, then having to leave your game on so you can continue the fight later? Or is it better to close your game on handhelds, continue your day as usual, then open it back up and continue what you were doing? Accessibility is the key here. And with Pokemon JUST entering 3D on the 3DS, I don't think Nintendo has any plans to transfer full fledged Pokemon to consoles.

...But I would kill for Pokemon to be on consoles. But it won't happen anytime soon.

Agent-Tojed

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

 

The rights to the IP are shared between Nintendo and GameFreak. Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak and can't make a game without their approval.

charizard1605

As long as GameFreak owns a share in the IP they're not going to do anything without their approval. Even if they own the majority, it's not worth p!ssing off one of their biggest bread and butter studios, especially considering that they're second party.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

 

The rights to the IP are shared between Nintendo and GameFreak. Nintendo doesn't own GameFreak and can't make a game without their approval.

metroidfood

As long as GameFreak owns a share in the IP they're not going to do anything without their approval. Even if they own the majority, it's not worth p!ssing off one of their biggest bread and butter studios, especially considering that they're second party.

they are trying chaz..

It would sell quite a few WiiUs but I don't see it saving the WiiU to be honest. WiiU is just a bad idea.I_can_haz

 

they are trying chaz..

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