the only reason KZ2 isn't selling is because of bad marketing and lem propoganda

the only reason KZ2 isn't selling is because of bad marketing and lem propoganda

its true

sony is very bad at marketing its most important games that its spends $400 billion making, if sony marketed KZ2 like M$ marketed halo 3 it would have sold like 4 million by now.

The other part of the blame goes to the lemming propoganda,

the lemmings bashed the game to no end calleing it the halo killer (fully well knowing that it wouldn't so they could bash it even more), they also said it was all graphics no gamneplay, which convinced most the ps3 owners not to buy it.
reviews can only do so much.

I hope you are all happy.:evil:

I guess the REAL TIME bullet follow ad i see something on 6 times a day is bad marketing.

AS for lemming propaganda? yes some how the few control the buying habits of the majority.

If a game is genuinely good then it doesn't need defending it can stand on its own, if it does then the game must not be very god.

Wait...so lems are the cause of the reason of KZ2 not being a monster seller? Okay then. :roll:

I guess the REAL TIME bullet follow ad i see something on 6 times a day is bad marketing.

AS for lemming propaganda? yes some how the few control the buying habits of the majority.

If a game is genuinely good then it doesn't need defending it can stand on its own, if it does then the game must not be very god.

WilliamRLBaker

Didn't it sell 1 million almost straight away? Within a week, maybe 2.Floppy_Jim

Killzone 2 is apparently suffering from LBP-Syndrome. Y'know, a game can sell about a million and still be a sales flop. :P

Didn't it sell 1 million almost straight away? Within a week, maybe 2.Floppy_Jim

Didn't it sell 1 million almost straight away? Within a week, maybe 2.Floppy_Jim

SW's is pretty much irrelevant outside of Gamespot. Half the people who bought this game are probably not posting on gaming forums anyway.

SW's is pretty much irrelevant outside of Gamespot. Half the people who bought this game are probably not posting on gaming forums anyway.

waynehead895

Killzone 2 is apparently suffering from LBP-Syndrome. Y'know, a game can sell about a million and still be a sales flop. :P

Lionheart08

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Didn't it sell 1 million almost straight away? Within a week, maybe 2.IronBass

You guys are right. If a game doesn't sell 14 million within 3 hours, it's a failure! :x

SW's is pretty much irrelevant outside of Gamespot. Half the people who bought this game are probably not posting on gaming forums anyway.

waynehead895

The REAL reason is because the people who bought the PS3 didnt buy it for games, but for blu-ray, and also because KZ1 was a mediocre title. KZ2 comes out, and its just a brand new game that no one has ever heard of. Lets be serious no one outside of these hardcore forums actually knew what KZ2 was when they saw the commercials, and just thought of it as another generic shooter which it is, but thats an entrirely different debate.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Didn't it sell 1 million almost straight away? Within a week, maybe 2.Peking-Duck

Bad markting - yes

Lem propaganda? Really? At least here on system wars theres a lot more "killzones is the best/graphics king/etc" threads than destructive ones! By this time everyone in the world would have a copy of Killzone2 if sw worked as a propaganda place.

Sony should of had commercials that showed some actual gameplay, or they should have started their marketing couple of months in advance.

I agree with bad marketing, but I can't see how lems have anything to do with it. Yes you have certain Lems who bash it, just like you have certain Cows who praise it like crazy, it's the same for any game, car, TV, computer, console, shoes, clothes, house etc. It's jst a fact of life.

[QUOTE="Peking-Duck"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Didn't it sell 1 million almost straight away? Within a week, maybe 2.Floppy_Jim

KZ2 was the definitive PS3 game, considering all the massive hype and selling like the way it is is pathetic

haha, riiiight....

Its the Lemmings fault that Killzone2 isnt selling well :lol:

And as for marketing being bad.. ive seen more Killzone2 commercials here in Canada then any other videogame from last year, so lets erase that ridicolous idea right away, KILLZONE2 has tons of commercials.

The game is good, just not amazing imo.

I thought it sold really well considering it has come from such a crap first game, usually being a sequel is a positive but I wuld imagine a lot of people remember KZ and think never again.

I thought it sold really well considering it has come from such a crap first game, usually being a sequel is a positive but I wuld imagine a lot of people remember KZ and think never again.

SapSacPrime

Yeah Killzone1 was horrible, Killzone2 is a HUGE step up from KZ1 imo.

Killzone1 = 5.5 or 6/10 (was the most dissapointing game for me on teh ps2)

Killzone2 = 8.5/10

at least for me personally.

its true! i saw xbox fanboys protesting at the gamestop near where i live, and i noticed a group of kids hanging outside gamecrazy talking how bad Killzone 2 is, for 8 hours straigt. i didnt really think it was anything untill i read this thread

if you want to know the reason behind why it isnt selling. [spoiler] People arent buying it [/spoiler]

If a game is genuinely good then it doesn't need defending it can stand on its own, if it does then the game must not be very god.

WilliamRLBaker

Good thing you don't spend any time defending games. :roll:

Microsoft has nothing to do Killzone faltering in sales. And I'm not even sure how 360 owners can be held accountable for Killzone 2 failing to match Halo 3's sales. At least 21 million PS3s have been sold worldwide with 5 million of them being sold in the US alone, which means that maybe your fellow PS3 owners should be held accountable for letting Killzone 2 falter in sales and stop blaming the Wii, 360, Halo, and whatever else fanboys like you use to justify the game not selling as well as hoped.

With an install base of 5 million, I would have expected sales of at least 1.5 to 2 million in the US by now.

Or maybe the vast majority of PS3 owners(people off these boards) aren't that interested in Killzone 2. Lets face reality, its a sequel to a franchise that doesn't have that strong of a pedigree. Plus, the PS2 wasn't a system know for its FPS like the original Xbox, so it probably didn't gain a large share of the FPS crowd. The 360 for all intents and purposes holds 2 major exclusive FPS franchises(Halo and Gears of War) and has countless multiplatform FPS games.

If you were an unbiased FPS fan shopping around for a system, which would you choose?

Also, another issue that has to be faced is Sony's refusal to drop the price on the PS3. No matter how good a few games are, I'm not that eager to drop 400-500 bucks on a game system. If Sony would face reality and lower the price on the PS3, I guarantee they would move more systems and ensure games like Killzone 2 became blockbusters. In the face of the recession, I'm amazed they have been this stubborn.

But please, stop blaming everyone else for Sony's mistakes. Its not the fault of Nintendo, Microsoft, or anyone else that Sony refuses to see the light and lower the price of the PS3 especially in the middle of a global recession.

It's hardly selling badly. Just because it isn't a monster seller doesn't mean it fails. I imagine Sony are quite happy with it. :?Ninja-Hippo

Dude, you're giving lemmings far too much credit. "Lemming propaganda"? Slowing down sales of Killzone 2? No, Killzone 2 has sold pretty well, already topping a million under a month. The reason it isnt selling like Halo 3 is because it's not Halo 3. It didnt have a massive market campaign the size of Halo 3, and it's a sequel to a game alot of gamers passed on (me included).

If you're honestly trying to blame killzone 2 sales on lemmings, first I have to laugh, then I have to cry as if that were true that "cows" were so fickle that "lemmings" could alter the sales figures like that then "cows" must not believe in there system of choice very much.

Again if that were true why does Halo sell so well? "Cows" bash it all the time, and it has no problems selling.

Last point, I agree with pretty much everyone else in saying Killzone 2 gets more commercial coverage time than any other game. I see the Killzone commercial several times a day at least.

lost oddyssey= .79 million

Infinite Undiscovery= .44 million

Fable 2= 2.6 million

LBP= 2.13 million

Left4Dead= 2.06 million

FallOut 3 /360= 2.26 million

Fracture= .10 million

MGS4= 3.89 million

Mass Effect = 2.02 million

MotorStorm = 3.47 million

Gears of War 2= 4.75 million

Gt5p= 3.0 million

Lost Planet /360= 1.76 million

Bioshock/ 360 = 2.16 million

Battlefield Bad company /360= 1.10 million

Dead Rising = 1.65 million

Dynasty Warriors 6 / 360= .25 million

Condemed 2: Bloodshot /360= .45 million

HalfLife 2 /PC = 4.12 million

HitMan Blood Money/ 360= .33 million

And the best for last

Hour of Victory= .12 million Just had to put that one in there for all you lemmings out there lol.

So I think it would be safe to say by these numbers listedthat if KZ2 is sitting around the 2 million mark it is far from being a failure. Especially since it is coming from a ps2 version that didn't even sale 1 million atleast by vgchartz lol. All of these numbers are from VGchartz by the way :)

Oh yea with the lemmings loving the JRPG's and Rpg's so much that MS is giving them they sure do sell like crap lol. Hmm makes me think alot of lemmings would love to be able to play KZ2 actually, you know they love some shooters :)

There is no doubt that KZ2 didn't have the advertisement of other games but I think R2, CoD4: WaW and KZ2 being release in such a short manner had something to do with it.

KZ2 is selling well, not Halo well, but well on a average.

Over a million sold if you combine NA and Europe. Aint been released in Japan yet.

It is sad that this gen people think a game must sell 2 million or something like that day one or on the first week to be called a success. By the time KZ 2 is an old game expect it to be like 3 or 4 million sold.

the only reason KZ2 isn't selling is because of bad marketing and lem propoganda

its true

sony is very bad at marketing its most important games that its spends $400 billion making, if sony marketed KZ2 like M$ marketed halo 3 it would have sold like 4 million by now.

The other part of the blame goes to the lemming propoganda,

the lemmings bashed the game to no end calleing it the halo killer (fully well knowing that it wouldn't so they could bash it even more), they also said it was all graphics no gamneplay, which convinced most the ps3 owners not to buy it.
reviews can only do so much.

I hope you are all happy.:evil:

Peking-Duck

Little to no advertising? Yes. Some fanbase on a debate forum? No.

the only reason KZ2 isn't selling is because of bad marketing and lem propoganda

its true

sony is very bad at marketing its most important games that its spends $400 billion making, if sony marketed KZ2 like M$ marketed halo 3 it would have sold like 4 million by now.

The other part of the blame goes to the lemming propoganda,

the lemmings bashed the game to no end calleing it the halo killer (fully well knowing that it wouldn't so they could bash it even more), they also said it was all graphics no gamneplay, which convinced most the ps3 owners not to buy it.
reviews can only do so much.

I hope you are all happy.:evil:

Peking-Duck

LOL!! ******* please!! So why did Resistance 2 sel so poorly? That was advertised to death. KZ2 strength is it's graphics. The developers seem to concentrate on that more then the actual gameplay, just to prove they could make that game look like the CGI video from years ago. LOL!! It still doesn't look at good as the CGI video, but it's a lot closer then before. People aren't buying it because they are playing better FPS like CoD: WaW and Resistance 2 on their PS3's.

The TC is right.

3 of my lem friends bought Halo wars, the game that flopped hard while ignoring killzone. These Brainwashed lems are ruining the market by buying crap games and ignoring good ones like killzone

I personally think it was a bad move to release KZ2 when they did. It should have been released during the late summer. Big gun games aren't released in March for a reason (they dont sell as much as later in the year). Seriously, there is a reason why every other big game is released late in the year.

The TC is right.

3 of my lem friends bought Halo wars, the game that flopped hard while ignoring killzone. These Brainwashed lems are ruining the market by buying crap games and ignoring good ones like killzone

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