The PC is Dying -- COMPUTERWORLD

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

1st of all...sure..maybe? whos to say in 10 years they wont be 100x more powerful then they are now? ALSO..maybe ONLY businesses "movie productions,videogame productions,scientists,ect" will have LARGER pcs..and the rest of us consumers will have tablets? WHo knows? You cant just dismiss it because you think its a crazy idea..lol..

VanDammFan

Still...my opinion stands..and im 100% im right..:)...now go and play with your calculator..;)

Appple did'nt reinvent sh*t, they just refined.

:lol: Mac fanboys can be so ridiculous sometimes. Actually scratch the sometimes part.

People said the exact same thing about desktops back in the early 2000s, yet here we are, people still saying that desktops will be phased out for more mobile stuff in a decade or so. Calculators are fun.ferret-gamer

He's a XNA programmer. He knows what he's talking about.

Or not.

:lol:

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

Mac is a PC......

I honestly don't get the point of this at all.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Appple did'nt reinvent sh*t, they just refined.

naju890_963

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

Mac is a PC......

I honestly don't get the point of this at all.

o0squishy0o

People trying to bring war inside of PC community? That cant happen. Not anytime close

The standard days of it being desktop and laptop are dying out, the markets evolving and over time Tablets will eventually take over laptops as the tech gets better much like laptops in their infancy.

The standard days of it being desktop and laptop are dying out, the markets evolving and over time Tablets will eventually take over laptops as the tech gets better much like laptops in their infancy.

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] that aint damage control, thats a fact, what you are doing IS damage control.wis3boi

Seriously:lol:

PC gaming has been declining ever since the industry exploded. The very nature of console game design has infected the pc. Obviously people still play pc and buy pc games, but just look at the advertisements on tv, online, and in retail stores--it is very evident that consoles are the focus.

How so? PC gaming was getting big. Companies saw this. Companies then released hardware that could more mimic pc games. PC games became streamlined....etc.

Oh...lovely, it's one of these threads again.

Oh, and all dissenters are being accused of "not thinking critically". I love these threads.

The traditional desktop PC is dying (and I'm sure the same could be said of iMacs) but the PC as a whole isn't going anywhere. Laptops will continue to be the de-facto choice of people who actually want to get work done in the field.

If it weren't for gaming and/or typing, I could easily switch to a tablet.

Well of course PC sales are going down. It doesn't take much thinking to realize there were markets full of people who had no alternative to buying a full PC. They don't need a lot of power, they don't need games, they don't need video processing, they don't need audio editing, and they don't need a big ass desktop or bulky laptop. They need basic features of computing that can easily be offloaded onto a much more focused device like a tablet.

Up until recently there have been absolutely no alternatives to a desktop PC or a laptop that have been remotely worth it. If all you need is web, music listening, video watching, e-mail, and some basic document writing, you still had to invest into a full laptop to get all of that. If you wanted one that will last more than 6 months before falling apart, you needed to spend far more than the $299 specials at wal-mart.

However now there are great alternatives. Tablets from all manufacturers are replacing that market of people who just didn't need the full PC with 3 usb ports, a DVD drive, massive harddrive, and all of that bulk to get the "full PC" experience.

From a gamers point of view this doesn't mean anything. If your laptop or PC could be replaced with a tablet and you suffered no losses in valued functionality, you weren't gaming or doing anything that required real amounts of power.

The only market this is effecting is the people who made flash games for a living. Now they are making mobile apps. That's the biggest difference from a gaming standpoint. Just like before, EA and other companies are seeing this as a viable source of revenue like they did with flash games (remember Pogo and all of those EA flash games?). So they'll be increasing support for tablets as the profit margins are much higher than any console or PC market due to the extremely low development costs of mobile games for tablets/smart phones.

Once there is a viable sub 300 dollar tablet on the market that doesn't suck and gets a decent amount of publicity, expect PC sales to fall even further.

From a gamers point of view this has nothing to do with Apple at all. They may be the only ones offering a decent tablet at the moment, but they aren't revolutionizing gaming as we know it. Nvidia has shown time and time again that gaming PC hardware and software sales are going up and software revenues will surpass that of console gaming in a few years. This is all despite the iPad's popularity.

The iPad is replacing the PC in the market where the gaming functionality of the PC was irrelevant. How this thread got to this many posts without people realizing this is beyond me.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

The problem is tablets will never be able to match the power of a PC. Can an iPAD run Crysis in FULL HD 1080P with 4X AA? If the answer is NO. Then that means the PC will never die.

NoodleFighter

By the time they do that we'll be doing Samaritan without even trying

Yeah. Tablets will never be able to match the power of the PC. They will never be able to run cutting edge graphic intensive games at the time those game out.

So in other words as long as there are cutting edge games. PC will never die.

From a gamers point of view this has nothing to do with Apple at all. They may be the only ones offering a decent tablet at the moment, but they aren't revolutionizing gaming as we know it. Nvidia has shown time and time again that gaming PC hardware and software sales are going up and software revenues will surpass that of console gaming in a few years. This is all despite the iPad's popularity.

Wasdie

I would also like to add that despite that fact that nVidia makes mobile chips with their Tegra lineup the BULK of their revenue still comes from desktop and laptop GPU's. In other word's don't expect nVidia to abandon the desktop and laptop GPU's anytime soon.

What do people even do with ipads? My damn phone has a pull out keypad because I can't stand texting with a touchscreen keyboard.

topgunmv

Appple did'nt reinvent sh*t, they just refined.

naju890_963

[QUOTE="naju890_963"]

Appple did'nt reinvent sh*t, they just refined.

clone01

Technology wise, perhaps not, but Apple creates mainstream markets for a lot of products. They have a profound effect on industry direction. Just like Nintendo didn't invent the analog stick, they still brought it to fruition.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="naju890_963"]

Appple did'nt reinvent sh*t, they just refined.

Heirren

Technology wise, perhaps not, but Apple creates mainstream markets for a lot of products. They have a profound effect on industry direction. Just like Nintendo didn't invent the analog stick, they still brought it to fruition.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] This is true. That's one of apple's strengths as a company.clone01

Technology wise, perhaps not, but Apple creates mainstream markets for a lot of products. They have a profound effect on industry direction. Just like Nintendo didn't invent the analog stick, they still brought it to fruition.

I've come to appreciate Apple. The name is worth it, imo. I bought ASUS and I really regret it. I know that "specs per dollar" will say apple isn't worth it, but they're just more reliable and I've honestly had programs run better on lower end apples against higher end pcs. ***programs like CS5e and Corel Painter***

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]HUGE difference. Cant really play multiplayer splitscreen on handheld. AND handheld has a tiny screen compaired to a tv..a tablet can have a large screen close to a laptop..

VanDammFan

You think I can play multiplayer splitscreen on tablet??? And you think splitscreen is the only reason why Handheld didn't take over, ok... sure.

Compare to my HDTV or even my monitor...hell even some laptops, a tablet screen is considered small.

eh,...its my opinion..and if we lived long enough you would see the desktop would go the way of the dinosaurs..Its just as simple as evolution.

So I guess console will also be replace by tablets? I mean, everything should be replaced be tablets... just how laptops were supposed to take over, now it's tablets.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

You think I can play multiplayer splitscreen on tablet??? And you think splitscreen is the only reason why Handheld didn't take over, ok... sure.

Compare to my HDTV or even my monitor...hell even some laptops, a tablet screen is considered small.

Bebi_vegeta

eh,...its my opinion..and if we lived long enough you would see the desktop would go the way of the dinosaurs..Its just as simple as evolution.

So I guess console will also be replace by tablets? I mean, everything should be replaced be tablets... just how laptops were supposed to take over, now it's tablets.

Eventually YES...pcs and consoles as we know them will be replaced with something else. Its just the way it is. BUT in all fairness, PC and tablets are in the same ballpark..Consoles and tablets not so much. Consoles arent competing with tablets.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

eh,...its my opinion..and if we lived long enough you would see the desktop would go the way of the dinosaurs..Its just as simple as evolution.

VanDammFan

So I guess console will also be replace by tablets? I mean, everything should be replaced be tablets... just how laptops were supposed to take over, now it's tablets.

Eventually YES...pcs and consoles as we know them will be replaced with something else. Its just the way it is. BUT in all fairness, PC and tablets are in the same ballpark..Consoles and tablets not so much. Consoles arent competing with tablets.

My gaming PC is not competing with tablets either... yet you say they will be replaced... I don't get it.

Yeah. Tablets will never be able to match the power of the PC. They will never be able to run cutting edge graphic intensive games at the time those game out.

So in other words as long as there are cutting edge games. PC will never die.

Xtasy26

Unless the siad tablet was a PC i.e. based on AMD Trinity APU ULV @17 watts**.

**Similar watts target as Samsung Series 7 tablet's Intel Core i5-2467M ULV i.e. 17 watts.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

So I guess console will also be replace by tablets? I mean, everything should be replaced be tablets... just how laptops were supposed to take over, now it's tablets.

Bebi_vegeta

Eventually YES...pcs and consoles as we know them will be replaced with something else. Its just the way it is. BUT in all fairness, PC and tablets are in the same ballpark..Consoles and tablets not so much. Consoles arent competing with tablets.

My gaming PC is not competing with tablets either... yet you say they will be replaced... I don't get it.

you dont have to get it...just accept it.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

Eventually YES...pcs and consoles as we know them will be replaced with something else. Its just the way it is. BUT in all fairness, PC and tablets are in the same ballpark..Consoles and tablets not so much. Consoles arent competing with tablets.

VanDammFan

My gaming PC is not competing with tablets either... yet you say they will be replaced... I don't get it.

you dont have to get it...just accept it.

So troll confirmed ?

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

My gaming PC is not competing with tablets either... yet you say they will be replaced... I don't get it.

Bebi_vegeta

you dont have to get it...just accept it.

So troll confirmed ?

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

you dont have to get it...just accept it.

VanDammFan

So troll confirmed ?

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

but gaming on desktops is here to stay.gamebreakerz__

Na, that'll be phased out to, eventually.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] but gaming on desktops is here to stay.Heirren

Na, that'll be phased out to, eventually.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] but gaming on desktops is here to stay.gamebreakerz__

Na, that'll be phased out to, eventually.

Somebody used the word "never" earlier. Fact of the matter is that home computing will go through changes. It is only natural.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

Na, that'll be phased out to, eventually.

Heirren

Somebody used the word "never" earlier. Fact of the matter is that home computing will go through changes. It is only natural.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] For what, laptops? The bigger the equipment the higher the power:cost ratio is so people will always want desktops.gamebreakerz__

Somebody used the word "never" earlier. Fact of the matter is that home computing will go through changes. It is only natural.

No there's some truth to the MS is DOOMED threads. A lot of the core fanbase isn't looking to stick with them because of Kinect.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

Somebody used the word "never" earlier. Fact of the matter is that home computing will go through changes. It is only natural.

Heirren

No there's some truth to the MS is DOOMED threads. A lot of the core fanbase isn't looking to stick with them because of Kinect.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Yeah but that's like me posting a thread with the name "MS IS DOOMED" because at some stage, even if it's 100 years from now or more, MS won't exist, and therefore it's doomed. Desktop PC's will be around for a while more.superclocked

No there's some truth to the MS is DOOMED threads. A lot of the core fanbase isn't looking to stick with them because of Kinect.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

So troll confirmed ?

gamebreakerz__

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

DO you remember when it cost like 3500.00$ to have a home pc back in the 80s early 90s? What are they now? 300$?...You ever have a cellphone in the mid 90s? Remeber they use to be only for the rich? right?? That 4000$ laptop will be under 1000$ when the time comes. Im not going to debate it any longer. Its fact as history shows us..PEACEOUT..word2yaMOTHA!!..:D

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

VanDammFan

DO you remember when it cost like 3500.00$ to have a home pc back in the 80s early 90s? What are they now? 300$?...You ever have a cellphone in the mid 90s? Remeber they use to be only for the rich? right?? That 4000$ laptop will be under 1000$ when the time comes. Im not going to debate it any longer. Its fact as history shows us..PEACEOUT..word2yaMOTHA!!..:D

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

No there's some truth to the MS is DOOMED threads. A lot of the core fanbase isn't looking to stick with them because of Kinect.

wis3boi

I don't know wtf that means....buuuut I meant the xbox brand.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

VanDammFan

DO you remember when it cost like 3500.00$ to have a home pc back in the 80s early 90s? What are they now? 300$?...You ever have a cellphone in the mid 90s? Remeber they use to be only for the rich? right?? That 4000$ laptop will be under 1000$ when the time comes. Im not going to debate it any longer. Its fact as history shows us..PEACEOUT..word2yaMOTHA!!..:D

In 1989, my parents purchased Commodore-Amiga 500 + Commodore 1084S RGB monitor for $1000 AUD.

Amiga 500 is a 68K based PC with custom IGP. Motorola 68000 CPU was 32bit processor and 16bit external bus.

Apple has reinvented music, reinvented mobile media players, reinvented smartphones, reinvented application distribution, reinvented tablet computing, have just launched an initiative to reinvent textbooks, and are rumored to be reinventing television.
musicalmac

lol.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

you dont have to get it...just accept it.

VanDammFan

So troll confirmed ?

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

Because you simply are... just accept it.

I never said my desktop would keep going unchanged, but I refsue to play games on a tablet over my desktop, it's obviously a inferior way of playing. Just like how handheld didn't take console out, well laptop and tablets won't take desktop out.

Man, I can't even make sense of what you've just said... Desktop are now huge and take all the room... wow.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Yeah. Tablets will never be able to match the power of the PC. They will never be able to run cutting edge graphic intensive games at the time those game out.

So in other words as long as there are cutting edge games. PC will never die.

ronvalencia

Unless the siad tablet was a PC i.e. based on AMD Trinity APU ULV @17 watts**.

**Similar watts target as Samsung Series 7 tablet's Intel Core i5-2467M ULV i.e. 17 watts.

17 Watts is still a lot compared to an iPAD. That would not last an entire day with a single charge.

:lol: Mac fanboys can be so ridiculous sometimes. Actually scratch the sometimes part.

waltefmoney

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

So troll confirmed ?

Bebi_vegeta

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

Because you simply are... just accept it.

I never said my desktop would keep going unchanged, but I refsue to play games on a tablet over my desktop, it's obviously a inferior way of playing. Just like how handheld didn't take console out, well laptop and tablets won't take desktop out.

Man, I can't even make sense of what you've just said... Desktop are now huge and take all the room... wow.

take care...bye bye then...

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

what the hell am i trolling? you honestly think your desktop pc is going to go unchanged? lol...no really..You really think the way things are going that you WONT have a tablet to do it all and replace your desktop?? OR have a laptop that becomes the norm? People are tired of HUGE take up all the room electronics now days..will only get worse a few more years down the road..so...trolllalalalal..all you want bra

VanDammFan

Because you simply are... just accept it.

I never said my desktop would keep going unchanged, but I refsue to play games on a tablet over my desktop, it's obviously a inferior way of playing. Just like how handheld didn't take console out, well laptop and tablets won't take desktop out.

Man, I can't even make sense of what you've just said... Desktop are now huge and take all the room... wow.

take care...bye bye then...

I would never consider myself a PC gamer in the terms used by people here. I have used PCs to play games in the past, like Quake, Torchlight, etc, but nothing serious. I emjoy my iPad now and feel that it fits my gaming preferences more than a seriously power PC.

That being said, I don't think that the PC is dying, not as far as gamers go. There are too many possibilities that the PC offers in terms of graphics, gameplay and styles of games.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Because you simply are... just accept it.

I never said my desktop would keep going unchanged, but I refsue to play games on a tablet over my desktop, it's obviously a inferior way of playing. Just like how handheld didn't take console out, well laptop and tablets won't take desktop out.

Man, I can't even make sense of what you've just said... Desktop are now huge and take all the room... wow.

PC360Wii

take care...bye bye then...

Signs of a failed argument OR signs of someone thats not going to keep saying the same things? Technology changes DAILY. To think you will be using a pc that looks like what you are using NOW in 20 years is plain stupid.There WILL BE the normal desktop pc's like I said before BUT we wont be using them like we are now. IM 100% sure and no reason to think im NOT right..

This is also the very very last im saying on this subject in this thread. SO call me troll "so 10 years ago"...tell me im not going to argue. Tell me I lost the battle. Call me names..lol..Its over, done, finished,completed,..