The Playstation 4 is the only SAFE BET for next generation.

What are we guaranteed to get with the Playstation 4?

A well built reliabe machine.

Tons of great media capabilities.

Tons of first party high quality support.

Tons of third party high quality support.

Core gaming.

Casual gaming.

Online gaming.

Gaming.

+ All the gimmicks that come along. Motion controls, Eye toys. Augmented Reality. If it's wanted you know Sony will make it happen. They leave no piece of entertaiment behind.

What is guaranteed with the next Xbox? Nothing.

Halo probably? From a a dev that hasn't made a single game ever.

What else? Payed online fee's... By their sample size they'll be abandoning something half way through the generation, be it core gaming, or the whole console itself...

What are we guaranteed to get with the Wii U?

Mario, Zelda, Smash Bro's, the usual Nintendo first party quality goodness.

Gimmicks, Nintendo is also good with gimmicks.

That's pretty much it though.

So really, the playstation 4 is the only safe bet.

Where would you place your bets?

PS: Need to clear something up. THE PC IS THE UNDENIABLE MASTER OF ALL GAMERS. THere is not a single doubt of this in my soul, I simply don't defend the PC because of how much superior it is to petty consoles. Also becasue I don't think it fits into this discussion. THere is no next gen PC, PC is alway just owning it up.

There is no Safe bet. The future is uncertain. And, realistically, each will have a large following just judging on the sales from this generation. I know I myself will own all 3 at some point...probably start with the PS4 and get the next Xbox a bit after. Then maybe a year after pick up a Wii U. But all will have a large following.

The only safe bet, and by that I mean the only machine that has been great through every generation, is the PC.

That's what I'll be sticking to as we go into next gen.

What is guaranteed with the next Xbox? Nothing.

Halo probably? From a a dev that hasn't made a single game ever.

What else? Payed online fee's... By their sample size they'll be abandoning something half way through the generation, be it core gaming, or the whole console itself...

DrWin

Forza Motorsport is enough for me to get a Nextbox. But Microsoft has always had a strong launch lineup.

PC, has delivered best gaming experience every generation so far.blue_hazy_basic

debatable from person to person :P

Btw tc can i borrow yer time machine i really want to see if At the drive in get back together.

PC, has delivered best gaming experience every generation so far.blue_hazy_basic

The safest bet is my PC. I ain't betting nothing on the Wii U/PS4 until i see some games that take advantage of those systems.

Nothing of the above is guaranteed next-gen. Whoever told you that, you probably shouldn't listen to him or her again.Willy105

Well, you can get all that with the PS3.TheMoreYouOwn

[QUOTE="Willy105"]Nothing of the above is guaranteed next-gen. Whoever told you that, you probably shouldn't listen to him or her again.DrWin

So, looking at the history we should expect an awful launch for the system.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]PC, has delivered best gaming experience every generation so far.DrWin

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="Willy105"]Nothing of the above is guaranteed next-gen. Whoever told you that, you probably shouldn't listen to him or her again.waltefmoney

So, looking at the history we should expect an awful launch for the system.

Does it have Halo though?SaltyMeatballs

I've been gaming since 1985 and I've never played Halo.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]Nothing of the above is guaranteed next-gen. Whoever told you that, you probably shouldn't listen to him or her again.DrWin

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Does it have Halo though?forrester_fire

I've been gaming since 1985 and I've never played Halo.

No. a less then thunderous launch maybe, but one which will be forgotten soon after with all rush of amazing games. Which is pretty much what happens every time with playstation.DrWin

Except the PS3, which suffered from lack of exclusives until 2008.

Stop kidding yourselves. PC is the only TRUE safe bet next gen.

Hmm, let me guess...

...you thought the Miami Heat was the only SAFE BET as well ? :P

Anyhoo, I'll check it out but I'm thinking just like this gen, the MS console will offer more of what I want. ;)

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="Willy105"]Nothing of the above is guaranteed next-gen. Whoever told you that, you probably shouldn't listen to him or her again.Willy105

ms has inspired so much terror in the herd they are getting an early start on next gen bashing.

yep, that is what it has come to.

promoting a system that has no games announced and no specs released.

who here can't wait to see the ps3 battle cry from 2006 resound again in sw?

"ps4 gonna blow nextbox out of the water! tally ho!" :lol:

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] That's why I used the term bet. And history told me that. If you expect anything other then what I descibred for the PS4 you just haven't been paying much attention.DrWin

So, looking at the history we should expect an awful launch for the system.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]No. a less then thunderous launch maybe, but one which will be forgotten soon after with all rush of amazing games. Which is pretty much what happens every time with playstation.waltefmoney

Except the PS3, which suffered from lack of exclusives until 2008.

ms has inspired so much terror in the herd they are getting an early start on next gen bashing.

yep, that is what it has come to.

promoting a system that has no games announced and no specs released.

who here can't wait to see the ps3 battle cry from 2006 resound again in sw?

"ps4 gonna blow nextbox out of the water! tally ho!" :lol:

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] That's why I used the term bet. And history told me that. If you expect anything other then what I descibred for the PS4 you just haven't been paying much attention.DrWin

So, looking at the history we should expect an awful launch for the system.

That happens with every Console launch...not just Playstation launches. Launch titles are never that impressive. Hell, the best launch I can think of was the DC launch. Nearly every title was just awesome. Look what happened to that. Still one of my favorite Consoles of all time though.

If this were a courtroom, and I was a lawyer for the defense, I'd cry, "Conjecture, your honor!"donalbane

No it didn't. It launched with exclusives. DrWin

It launched with the least amount of exclusives and was basically selling on future potential until the release of MGS4.

Stop kidding yourselves. PC is the only TRUE safe bet next gen.

psn8214

Yeah, people said that 5 times already, but seems the thread starter doesn't understand. Consoles are never a safe bet, you don't know ever what might happen. Example,

The DS had a piss poor launch and was vastly weaker than the PSP, logically people thought it would fail. And now years later there are tons of quality games for it, cheap as hell, not to mentioned the 2nd most succesfull gaming system of all times. The Dreamcast had the best launch line up of all times, was the first system to have online & had games that took advantage of the online capabilities, it was basically the future. Yet failed and lost the battle.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

ms has inspired so much terror in the herd they are getting an early start on next gen bashing.

yep, that is what it has come to.

promoting a system that has no games announced and no specs released.

who here can't wait to see the ps3 battle cry from 2006 resound again in sw?

"ps4 gonna blow nextbox out of the water! tally ho!" :lol:

DrWin

its a pretty bleak outlook tbh coming from a 360 user.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

So, looking at the history we should expect an awful launch for the system.

Puckhog04

That happens with every Console launch...not just Playstation launches. Launch titles are never that impressive. Hell, the best launch I can think of was the DC launch. Nearly every title was just awesome. Look what happened to that. Still one of my favorite Consoles of all time though.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

ms has inspired so much terror in the herd they are getting an early start on next gen bashing.

yep, that is what it has come to.

promoting a system that has no games announced and no specs released.

who here can't wait to see the ps3 battle cry from 2006 resound again in sw?

"ps4 gonna blow nextbox out of the water! tally ho!" :lol:

DrWin

Yes, obviously that's all they would launch with. MS is like Nintendo, theydidn't cater to the hardcore crowd at all this generation and have zero games for hardcore players. *end sarcasm*

[QUOTE="DrWin"]No it didn't. It launched with exclusives. waltefmoney

It launched with the least amount of exclusives and was basically selling on future potential until the release of MGS4.

[QUOTE="donalbane"]If this were a courtroom, and I was a lawyer for the defense, I'd cry, "Conjecture, your honor!"DrWin

There are no safe bets, only odds, and to speculate on the odds of something before knowing anything about it, is a little shortsighted to say the least and it frankly stinks of a strong bias.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]No it didn't. It launched with exclusives. waltefmoney

It launched with the least amount of exclusives and was basically selling on future potential until the release of MGS4.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] No. a less then thunderous launch maybe, but one which will be forgotten soon after with all rush of amazing games. Which is pretty much what happens every time with playstation. Way better that way then getting a decent launch and then going downhill the rest of the generation. That's almost like the company is trolling it's fanbase. DrWin

That happens with every Console launch...not just Playstation launches. Launch titles are never that impressive. Hell, the best launch I can think of was the DC launch. Nearly every title was just awesome. Look what happened to that. Still one of my favorite Consoles of all time though.

To each his own. DC had some of the highest scoring and most respected games of all time. But, yes, PS2's launch was especially terrible and recovered, like they all do.

Yeah, people said that 5 times already, but seems the thread starter doesn't understand. Consoles are never a safe bet, you don't know ever what might happen. Example,

The DS had a piss poor launch and was vastly weaker than the PSP, logically people thought it would fail. And now years later there are tons of quality games for it, cheap as hell, not to mentioned the 2nd most succesfull gaming system of all times. The Dreamcast had the best launch line up of all times, was the first system to have online & had games that took advantage of the online capabilities, it was basically the future. Yet failed and lost the battle.

Lucianu

Exactly. There's no telling if/when a console will acquire titles that interest you, if it will be able to maintain third party support, and if it will be able to consistently do that in the long run, a problem I've encountered with all three of my consoles this gen. I would much prefer to stick with a proven platform and then migrate over to consoles if/when they accumulate enough worthwhile games. Otherwise, it's in my best financial interest to stick with the PC as my primary platform.

PC, has delivered best gaming experience every generation so far.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] No. a less then thunderous launch maybe, but one which will be forgotten soon after with all rush of amazing games. Which is pretty much what happens every time with playstation. Way better that way then getting a decent launch and then going downhill the rest of the generation. That's almost like the company is trolling it's fanbase. DrWin

That happens with every Console launch...not just Playstation launches. Launch titles are never that impressive. Hell, the best launch I can think of was the DC launch. Nearly every title was just awesome. Look what happened to that. Still one of my favorite Consoles of all time though.

Sure that's a fine assesment, I d«bought the PS3 early because I knew the games would be coming down the line, was a huge fan of MGS, GoW, FF, GT, Team ICO etc.. But I don't see anything wrong with that. That fits into my safe bet idea.

DrWin

Then change the thread title to "The PS4 is a safe bet if you want to wait a year and a half to get an AAAE."

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]PC, has delivered best gaming experience every generation so far.TruthBToldShow

the ps3 pretty much proves there is no safe bet.

It took sony 2 years to get a decent title out. And thats from the same company who made the ps2... who would have guessed.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]PC, has delivered best gaming experience every generation so far.TruthBToldShow

Ironically, online on the PC is vastly superior to that of any console.