The Playstation 4 is the only SAFE BET for next generation.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]360 2008 Titles: 5

• Gears of War 2 93 – 2008
• Fable II 89 – 2008
• Left 4 Dead 89 – 2008
• Viva Pinata TIP 82 - 2008
• Naruto 80 – 2008
• PS3 2008 Titles: 8
• LittleBigPlanet 95 – 2008
• Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots 94 – 2008
• Wipeout HD 87 – 2008
• Resistance 2 87 – 2008
• Valkyria Chronicles 86 – 2008
• MLB 08: The Show 85 – 2008
• Motorstorm: Pacific Rift 82 – 2008
• Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds 81 – 2008
• 360 2010 Titles: 3
• Halo Reach 91 - 2010
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction 85 – 2010
• Alan Wake 83 – 2010
• PS3 2010 Titles: 7
• God of War III 92 – 2010
• MLB 10: The Show 91 – 2010
• Heavy Rain 87 – 2010
• The Sly Collection 85 - 2010
• Gran Turismo 5 84 - 2010
• Modnation Racers 82 – 2010
• Yakuza 3 80 – 2010
• You were saying? ;) You loose exclusive wise or overall wise.

waltefmoney

Those games probably scored in the 70's or less no? My list is 80+.DrWin

Your list is also pretty bad. You include Wipeout HD, a PSN arcade game for the PS3, but you don't include XBLA games for the 360. You list the Sly Collection as a PS3 exclusive, and you list Splinter Cell Conviction as a 360 exclusive which is also on PC.

Wasn't MLB: The Show 08 also not exclusive since it's on the PS2 and PSP?

You need to read more dude. I said overall or exclusive wise. I also threw Left4Dead in for the 360 and it's on PC. Ignore it if you looking at exclusives use it if you want overall. That's the best way to list it. All info is there that way. And Wipeout was a retail PS3 game. Retail games count. DrWin

Oh, overall? Not to worry:

http://www.gamequarry.com/dablog/2009/02/12/metacritic-2008-platform-summary/

And Wipeout HD counts because it was released as a retail title later? Fine, then you should include Geometry Wars 2 for the 360.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Does it have Halo though?forrester_fire

I've been gaming since 1985 and I've never played Halo.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

Those games probably scored in the 70's or less no? My list is 80+.DrWin

Your list is also pretty bad. You include Wipeout HD, a PSN arcade game for the PS3, but you don't include XBLA games for the 360. You list the Sly Collection as a PS3 exclusive, and you list Splinter Cell Conviction as a 360 exclusive which is also on PC.

So, we need to read more into your arbitrary reasons for the PS3 being better, being that you only use another site then the one you are posting on, don't count A rated games on there, and for some reason count an arcade game sold on in a retail case? Sounds good to me.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]You need to read more dude. I said overall or exclusive wise. I also threw Left4Dead in for the 360 and it's on PC. Ignore it if you looking at exclusives use it if you want overall. That's the best way to list it. All info is there that way. And Wipeout was a retail PS3 game. Retail games count. waltefmoney

Oh, overall? Not to worry:

http://www.gamequarry.com/dablog/2009/02/12/metacritic-2008-platform-summary/

It's kind of sad that every time I argue with you about these things you proved huge meaningless numbers that noone can make any sense of yet I provide specific games and details that are easily checked up and debated. ANd you always answer back with something like the 360 has 9000 games the PS3 only has 8990 games... Dude really? If makes the 360 look worse not better... Your running from a clean fight and fighting shady.

DrWin

You selectively list games and call it "overall library" and I'm fighting shady? Bro, seriously.. I'm providing you with a detailed analysis of Metacritic scores and you provide me with your own, made up list.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Your list is also pretty bad. You include Wipeout HD, a PSN arcade game for the PS3, but you don't include XBLA games for the 360. You list the Sly Collection as a PS3 exclusive, and you list Splinter Cell Conviction as a 360 exclusive which is also on PC.

tempest91

So, we need to read more into your arbitrary reasons for the PS3 being better, being that you only use another site then the one you are posting on, don't count A rated games on there, and for some reason count an arcade game sold on in a retail case? Sounds good to me.

lol righty dude. First off you weren't in this discussion. Second off Waltefmoney started the arguement. 3rd off I wrote in my original post, overall or exclusive wise. There was nothing to read into. It's in my post plain in simple. Don't try to complicate things that are simple. I made nothing up, I used factual data that can be backed up and confirmed in seconds. I simply pointed out facts. DrWin

Your post was:

and it's been the best console on the market 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011DrWin

Then all of a sudden you pretend like the Wii doesn't exist and start compiling weird lists and calling it "overall library."

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Oh, overall? Not to worry:

http://www.gamequarry.com/dablog/2009/02/12/metacritic-2008-platform-summary/

delta3074

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

It's kind of sad that every time I argue with you about these things you proved huge meaningless numbers that noone can make any sense of yet I provide specific games and details that are easily checked up and debated. ANd you always answer back with something like the 360 has 9000 games the PS3 only has 8990 games... Dude really? If makes the 360 look worse not better... Your running from a clean fight and fighting shady.

delta3074

I think it's about damn time the meaning of the word "overall" is posted:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/overall

1. From one end to the other: the overall length of the house.
2. Including everything; comprehensive: the overall costs of medical care.
3. Regarded as a whole; general: My overall impression was favorable.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Does it have Halo though?forrester_fire

I've been gaming since 1985 and I've never played Halo.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"]You need to read more dude. I said overall or exclusive wise. I also threw Left4Dead in for the 360 and it's on PC. Ignore it if you looking at exclusives use it if you want overall. That's the best way to list it. All info is there that way. And Wipeout was a retail PS3 game. Retail games count. DrWin

So, we need to read more into your arbitrary reasons for the PS3 being better, being that you only use another site then the one you are posting on, don't count A rated games on there, and for some reason count an arcade game sold on in a retail case? Sounds good to me.

I'm sorry, for a second I thought that I was in a public forum. I guess that I'm mistaken and you are holding a private conversation that I wasn't invited to. Please put that in your title next time when creating a thread then and also make a VIP list. I hope to make my way on it someday. Me not being invited doesn't make your argument less flawed or lessen your denial of the facts in any way.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"]You need to read more dude. I said overall or exclusive wise. I also threw Left4Dead in for the 360 and it's on PC. Ignore it if you looking at exclusives use it if you want overall. That's the best way to list it. All info is there that way. And Wipeout was a retail PS3 game. Retail games count. DrWin

So, we need to read more into your arbitrary reasons for the PS3 being better, being that you only use another site then the one you are posting on, don't count A rated games on there, and for some reason count an arcade game sold on in a retail case? Sounds good to me.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DrWin"]

It's kind of sad that every time I argue with you about these things you proved huge meaningless numbers that noone can make any sense of yet I provide specific games and details that are easily checked up and debated. ANd you always answer back with something like the 360 has 9000 games the PS3 only has 8990 games... Dude really? If makes the 360 look worse not better... Your running from a clean fight and fighting shady.

waltefmoney

I think it's about damn time the meaning of the word "overall" is posted:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/overall

1. From one end to the other: the overall length of the house.
2. Including everything; comprehensive: the overall costs of medical care.
3. Regarded as a whole; general: My overall impression was favorable.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]if you cannot make sense of that graph then you need to go back to school, it clearly states that there where MORE games released on the 360 that year, you cannot discount proof just because it doesn't comply with your standards, the numbers are clear, what more proof do you need that there where more games released on the 360 that year? and every time i check your 'details' you seem to be missing games .DrWin

I think it's about damn time the meaning of the word "overall" is posted:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/overall

1. From one end to the other: the overall length of the house.
2. Including everything; comprehensive: the overall costs of medical care.
3. Regarded as a whole; general: My overall impression was favorable.

Your argument is flawed though when you pull out arbitrary guidelines that specifically exclude things to benefit only yourself that would otherwise seem silly. Why exclude A rated games? Why use another site? Why include arcade games in a retail box? None of those make sense in this context.

You meay also want to look into interpretation and context. You may learn something. Just because I say overall doesn't mean I'm counting games rating 50, 60 70 etc... I means I was counting multiplats.

DrWin

Yeah, I know that.

Ofcourse you knew this and just changed the subject so take focus away from the fact that the PS3 beat the 360. I've been seeing this happen a lot around here when people can retaliate against an arguement.DrWin

This is the same as last time. You say something, I prove you wrong, you start pretending nothing happened. Your original stated that the PS3 was the best console in 2008 and 2010. I proved that the Wii beat it in exclusives both years. Why is this still going?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DrWin"] It's kind of sad that every time I argue with you about these things you proved huge meaningless numbers that noone can make any sense of yet I provide specific games and details that are easily checked up and debated. ANd you always answer back with something like the 360 has 9000 games the PS3 only has 8990 games... Dude really? If makes the 360 look worse not better... Your running from a clean fight and fighting shady.DrWin

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

So, we need to read more into your arbitrary reasons for the PS3 being better, being that you only use another site then the one you are posting on, don't count A rated games on there, and for some reason count an arcade game sold on in a retail case? Sounds good to me.

delta3074

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

You meay also want to look into interpretation and context. You may learn something. Just because I say overall doesn't mean I'm counting games rating 50, 60 70 etc... I means I was counting multiplats.

waltefmoney

Yeah, I know that.

Ofcourse you knew this and just changed the subject so take focus away from the fact that the PS3 beat the 360. I've been seeing this happen a lot around here when people can retaliate against an arguement.DrWin

This is the same as last time. You say something, I prove you wrong, you start pretending nothing happened. Your original stated that the PS3 was the best console in 2008 and 2010. I proved that the Wii beat it in exclusives both years. Why is this still going?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DrWin"] lol righty dude. First off you weren't in this discussion. Second off Waltefmoney started the arguement. 3rd off I wrote in my original post, overall or exclusive wise. There was nothing to read into. It's in my post plain in simple. Don't try to complicate things that are simple. I made nothing up, I used factual data that can be backed up and confirmed in seconds. I simply pointed out facts. DrWin

He linked you graphs and a spreadsheet that is very organized. How is that overcomplicating things? Seems pretty organized to me. Also, people can feel free to take sides if they want to, I would point out that I don't see anyone else on yours.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="delta3074"]if you cannot make sense of that graph then you need to go back to school, it clearly states that there where MORE games released on the 360 that year, you cannot discount proof just because it doesn't comply with your standards, the numbers are clear, what more proof do you need that there where more games released on the 360 that year? and every time i check your 'details' you seem to be missing games .delta3074

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

Yeah, I know that.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

Ofcourse you knew this and just changed the subject so take focus away from the fact that the PS3 beat the 360. I've been seeing this happen a lot around here when people can retaliate against an arguement.DrWin

This is the same as last time. You say something, I prove you wrong, you start pretending nothing happened. Your original stated that the PS3 was the best console in 2008 and 2010. I proved that the Wii beat it in exclusives both years. Why is this still going?

The PC is the only obviously safe bet...FANBOY GOGGLES BE GONE

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]it's a public forum, private discussions are not allowed in these threads, if you want a private discussion with anyone then 'take it outside' and you are the one complicating things that are simple, people post 'simple' graphs with numbers that back them up and you say they have to list individual games with scores, sounds like overcomplicating something that can be explained with simple numbers to me.tempest91

He linked you graphs and a spreadsheet that is very organized. How is that overcomplicating things? Seems pretty organized to me. Also, people can feel free to take sides if they want to, I would point out that I don't see anyone else on yours.

How did you prove me wrong, you jsut admiteed you knew I meant multiplats and not overall quanity of software. You JUST admitted to knowing int his post. Ooops eh?DrWin

What? Even if I did that(I don't what it is), it's still the fact that it was PROVEN to you that the PS3 lost in 2010 BY OTHER SOURCES. Not by me, by metacritic, and by that other site(forgot the name). While you respond with weird lists that for some reason only include multiplats you wanna include, don't include downloadable games, but include downloadable games that were later released on disc.. What the hell?

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

This is the same as last time. You say something, I prove you wrong, you start pretending nothing happened. Your original stated that the PS3 was the best console in 2008 and 2010. I proved that the Wii beat it in exclusives both years. Why is this still going?

tomertr

• 360 2008 Titles: 5
• Gears of War 2 93 – 2008
• Fable II 89 – 2008
• Left 4 Dead 89 – 2008
• Viva Pinata TIP 82 - 2008
• Naruto 80 – 2008
• PS3 2008 Titles: 8
• LittleBigPlanet 95 – 2008
• Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots 94 – 2008
• Wipeout HD 87 – 2008
• Resistance 2 87 – 2008
• Valkyria Chronicles 86 – 2008
• MLB 08: The Show 85 – 2008
• Motorstorm: Pacific Rift 82 – 2008
• Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds 81 – 2008
• 360 2010 Titles: 3
• Halo Reach 91 - 2010
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction 85 – 2010
• Alan Wake 83 – 2010
• PS3 2010 Titles: 7
• God of War III 92 – 2010
• MLB 10: The Show 91 – 2010
• Heavy Rain 87 – 2010
• The Sly Collection 85 - 2010
• Gran Turismo 5 84 - 2010
• Modnation Racers 82 – 2010
• Yakuza 3 80 – 2010
• This is all Metacritic data. The diference is I only counted retail games. and he counted EVERYTHING. DLC, arcade titles, PSN titles, expansions. map packs anything accounted for by Metacritics search engine.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"]

DrWin

He linked you graphs and a spreadsheet that is very organized. How is that overcomplicating things? Seems pretty organized to me. Also, people can feel free to take sides if they want to, I would point out that I don't see anyone else on yours.

Because it's organized into an easy to read and interpret tool called a graph. It takes little time to extract the data and see what is being displayed.

[QUOTE="tomertr"][QUOTE="DrWin"]How did you prove me wrong, you jsut admiteed you knew I meant multiplats and not overall quanity of software. You JUST admitted to knowing int his post. Ooops eh?DrWin

• 360 2008 Titles: 5
• Gears of War 2 93 – 2008
• Fable II 89 – 2008
• Left 4 Dead 89 – 2008
• Viva Pinata TIP 82 - 2008
• Naruto 80 – 2008
• PS3 2008 Titles: 8
• LittleBigPlanet 95 – 2008
• Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots 94 – 2008
• Wipeout HD 87 – 2008
• Resistance 2 87 – 2008
• Valkyria Chronicles 86 – 2008
• MLB 08: The Show 85 – 2008
• Motorstorm: Pacific Rift 82 – 2008
• Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds 81 – 2008
• 360 2010 Titles: 3
• Halo Reach 91 - 2010
• Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction 85 – 2010
• Alan Wake 83 – 2010
• PS3 2010 Titles: 7
• God of War III 92 – 2010
• MLB 10: The Show 91 – 2010
• Heavy Rain 87 – 2010
• The Sly Collection 85 - 2010
• Gran Turismo 5 84 - 2010
• Modnation Racers 82 – 2010
• Yakuza 3 80 – 2010
• This is all Metacritic data. The diference is I only counted retail games. and he counted EVERYTHING. DLC, arcade titles, PSN titles, expansions. map packs anything accounted for by Metacritics search engine.

I didn't count anything. At the end of every year metacritic makes a comparison between platforms, did you even click the link? Think about it - it's hilarious. You're arguing against metacritic, using a metacritic list.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

He linked you graphs and a spreadsheet that is very organized. How is that overcomplicating things? Seems pretty organized to me. Also, people can feel free to take sides if they want to, I would point out that I don't see anyone else on yours.

tempest91

Because it's organized into an easy to read and interpret tool called a graph. It takes little time to extract the data and see what is being displayed.

Graphs make 0 sense when your camparing years where one console has like 7 games versus 5 games. You list the games. You don't make a graph of that. That makes no sense... Those graphs are for overall pieces of content. Who cares about that? Noone is discussing that. DrWin

So you're saying one console had 7 multiplatform games released in that year while the other has 5. Dear god, gaming is dying. We're down to 5-7 multiplats a year.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]How did you prove me wrong, you jsut admiteed you knew I meant multiplats and not overall quanity of software. You JUST admitted to knowing int his post. Ooops eh?waltefmoney

What? Even if I did that(I don't what it is), it's still the fact that it was PROVEN to you that the PS3 lost in 2010 BY OTHER SOURCES. Not by me, by metacritic, and by that other site(forgot the name). While you respond with weird lists that for some reason only include multiplats you wanna include, don't include downloadable games, but include downloadable games that were later released on disc.. What the hell?

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] How is a chart that claims one console has 500 pices of software content and the other has 490 pieces of software content more simple and easy to analyze then a list of 80+ rated retail games for each console? In what planet? DrWin

Because it's organized into an easy to read and interpret tool called a graph. It takes little time to extract the data and see what is being displayed.

Metacritic has a graph that compares highly rated games and exclusives overall that was already linked to you. It's really that easy. Go back and look.

[QUOTE="DrWin"]Graphs make 0 sense when your camparing years where one console has like 7 games versus 5 games. You list the games. You don't make a graph of that. That makes no sense... Those graphs are for overall pieces of content. Who cares about that? Noone is discussing that. waltefmoney

So you're saying one console had 7 multiplatform games released in that year while the other has 5. Dear god, gaming is dying. We're down to 5-7 multiplats a year.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Because it's organized into an easy to read and interpret tool called a graph. It takes little time to extract the data and see what is being displayed.

tempest91

Metacritic has a graph that compares highly rated games and exclusives overall that was already linked to you. It's really that easy. Go back and look.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"]Graphs make 0 sense when your camparing years where one console has like 7 games versus 5 games. You list the games. You don't make a graph of that. That makes no sense... Those graphs are for overall pieces of content. Who cares about that? Noone is discussing that. DrWin

So you're saying one console had 7 multiplatform games released in that year while the other has 5. Dear god, gaming is dying. We're down to 5-7 multiplats a year.

Multiplats are allowed, but not multiplats that are on both consoles. Wow.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

So you're saying one console had 7 multiplatform games released in that year while the other has 5. Dear god, gaming is dying. We're down to 5-7 multiplats a year.

waltefmoney

Multiplats are allowed, but not multiplats that are on both consoles. Wow.

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="delta3074"]you are aware the according to the GS metagame the 360 had more higher scoring games than the Ps3 until this year right? even by metacritic the 360 had more hiigher rated games before this year , in other words it took 5 years for the Ps3 to overtake the 360 in higher rated gamesdelta3074

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="delta3074"]you are aware the according to the GS metagame the 360 had more higher scoring games than the Ps3 until this year right? even by metacritic the 360 had more hiigher rated games before this year , in other words it took 5 years for the Ps3 to overtake the 360 in higher rated gamesdelta3074

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] Graphs make 0 sense when your camparing years where one console has like 7 games versus 5 games. You list the games. You don't make a graph of that. That makes no sense... Those graphs are for overall pieces of content. Who cares about that? Noone is discussing that. DrWin

Metacritic has a graph that compares highly rated games and exclusives overall that was already linked to you. It's really that easy. Go back and look.

I did, but metacritic itself judges good games by 75+ and the graph displayed that by their own criteria, that the 360 had more higher scoring exclusives in 2010. And so did the Wii

[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

So you're saying one console had 7 multiplatform games released in that year while the other has 5. Dear god, gaming is dying. We're down to 5-7 multiplats a year.

waltefmoney

Multiplats are allowed, but not multiplats that are on both consoles. Wow.

ROFL What's the point of listing GTA4 for the 360 and the PS3 in a 360 versus PS3 camparison? WHAT the HELL is the point? :lol:DrWin

and it's been the best console on the market 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011DrWin

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="DrWin"] Yes, every other titles was either on both consoles, a piece of DLC, arcade/PSN title or below the rating of 80. Check for yourself. delta3074

Multiplats are allowed, but not multiplats that are on both consoles. Wow.

PS4 got announced? :?Funconsole