The power of the PS3 and Cell

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives?

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

"The power of the PS3 and Cell"

:)

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

Please read what you just typed and tell me if any of it makes sense at ALL. What does HDD and HDMI have to do with gameplay?

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. Omnisystem

Please read what you just typed and tell me if any of it makes sense at ALL. What does HDD and HDMI have to do with gameplay?

and lets not forget that RROD caused the delay on GTA IV :lol:

seriously he must be the third person today that creates a topic on how the 360 delayed the game when it was really the other way around

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. st1ka

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

What you wrote isn't exactly true either lol.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. Eddie-Vedder

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

What you wrote isn't exactly true either lol.

what part may ask?

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. st1ka

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

What you wrote isn't exactly true either lol.

what part may ask?

Sorry I misread, I thought you said they looked exatcly the same, "about" the same is pretty spot on, glad I didn't get to agressive lol, sorry bout that.

teh cell !!!1!!1!

sorry, sum1 had to say it :P

No becuase the power engine of Cell drives it to be a more powerful machine giving it the edge over the xbox 360 and it's RROD. Xbox 360 delayed GTA4 because they were waiting hoping microsoft would fix the problem but they didn't! PS3 has some GREAT looking games coming out soon like MGS4 FF13 resistence 2 and Kill zone 2.iamthetruth55

the game was delayed because of the PS3s lack of RAM and the 360s lack of space on a DVD9

the 360 has a better GPU which is overall more important then the CPU

the PS3 has a more powerfull CPU but it is extremely hard to program far and frankly it isnt their job to push the PS3s limits, GTA was never about the graphics

FF13 MGS 4 resistance 2 and killzone 2 are not out yet we dont know exactly how do they look like

you obviously have no idea what your talking about, just admit your wrong and we can all move along

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. thrones

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

What you wrote isn't exactly true either lol.

what part may ask?

Rockstar said that the lack of a built in HDD + DVD9was also a problem for them.

i didnt mention the delays on my post :|

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. thrones

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

What you wrote isn't exactly true either lol.

what part may ask?

Rockstar said that the lack of a built in HDD + DVD9was also a problem for them.

did i say anything about delays on that post? :|

lol, well, the ps3 can play amazing movies.Squall18

thats the main reason i will get one, when its $299

[QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. st1ka

Please read what you just typed and tell me if any of it makes sense at ALL. What does HDD and HDMI have to do with gameplay?

and lets not forget that RROD caused the delay on GTA IV :lol:

seriously he must be the third person today that creates a topic on how the 360 delayed the game when it was really the other way around

Yes, I am now sure that RockStars 360 must have gotten RROD so they had to send it in to Microsoft to get it fixed before they could resume development of GTAIV, which in turn, caused the delay on the game. :roll:

Get a clue for crying out loud.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Omnisystem"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. Omnisystem

Please read what you just typed and tell me if any of it makes sense at ALL. What does HDD and HDMI have to do with gameplay?

and lets not forget that RROD caused the delay on GTA IV :lol:

seriously he must be the third person today that creates a topic on how the 360 delayed the game when it was really the other way around

Yes, I am now sure that RockStars 360 must have gotten RROD so they had to send it in to Microsoft to get it fixed before they could resume development of GTAIV, which in turn, caused the delay on the game. :roll:

Get a clue for crying out loud.

OHH it all makes sense now :P

if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI iamthetruth55

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

Really, I can name at least 10,000 games that contributed to ruining gaming then those titles. This gen is dull, and expensive.

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

casey133

the same devs that said the PS2 had the superior hardware last gen?

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

casey133

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

[QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

some people just dont get it

Yeah, probably. If it was a PS3 exclusive it'd probably also have 5x the content with more players online and they could stream it off the PS3's HDD so they could have made a bigger city (they didn't use the HDD since not all 360's have one). The 360 pretty much held GTAIV way back. It could have been so much more.

[QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

casey133

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. here are the specs: Link

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

casey133

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

what i find it funny is that somehow there always that one guy that thinks he holds the key to truth based on what he thinks it is, then he comes to a forum/website which is visited by hundreds if not thousands of people everyday thinking that he is right and that no one else ever really stoped to think about itst1ka

If you're not referring to me then please ignore the rest of this post.

Please show me where I even hinted at "holding the key" to the truth based on what I think. I simply referred to what two game developers said regarding the PS3.

So, please learn better reading skills before you make your own judgments based on opinion and not fact.

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. st1ka

is that why PS3 exclusives look about the same as 360 exclusives? Seriously if your just going to do some uninformed rant, full of wrong information why even post at all?

you beat me to it :D

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

Should have been optimized with GTA4. Microsoft has OFFICALLY ruined gaming by coming out with awful redudnant games liek Halo 3 and GeOW along with RROD causing the delay of GTA4. But my main point is that if GTA4 were build solely for the Cell the graphics and gameplay would be much better especially because of the build in HDD and HDMI. I can't believe microsoft. iamthetruth55

nice piece of sarcasm :lol:

you posted pretty much the same thing last night so i'll post the same link that proves it was the ps3 that delayed gta4, not the 360.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580161/20080123/index.jhtml

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

casey133

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]No becuase the power engine of Cell drives it to be a more powerful machine giving it the edge over the xbox 360 and it's RROD. Xbox 360 delayed GTA4 because they were waiting hoping microsoft would fix the problem but they didn't! PS3 has some GREAT looking games coming out soon like MGS4 FF13 resistence 2 and Kill zone 2.st1ka

the game was delayed because of the PS3s lack of RAM and the 360s lack of space on a DVD9

the 360 has a better GPU which is overall more important then the CPU

the PS3 has a more powerfull CPU but it is extremely hard to program far and frankly it isnt their job to push the PS3s limits, GTA was never about the graphics

FF13 MGS 4 resistance 2 and killzone 2 are not out yet we dont know exactly how do they look like

you obviously have no idea what your talking about, just admit your wrong and we can all move along

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="iamthetruth55"]No becuase the power engine of Cell drives it to be a more powerful machine giving it the edge over the xbox 360 and it's RROD. Xbox 360 delayed GTA4 because they were waiting hoping microsoft would fix the problem but they didn't! PS3 has some GREAT looking games coming out soon like MGS4 FF13 resistence 2 and Kill zone 2.TheEvilBaron

the game was delayed because of the PS3s lack of RAM and the 360s lack of space on a DVD9

the 360 has a better GPU which is overall more important then the CPU

the PS3 has a more powerfull CPU but it is extremely hard to program far and frankly it isnt their job to push the PS3s limits, GTA was never about the graphics

FF13 MGS 4 resistance 2 and killzone 2 are not out yet we dont know exactly how do they look like

you obviously have no idea what your talking about, just admit your wrong and we can all move along

They're both important, but the bottleneck for most games is the GPU.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

"the 360 has a better GPU"

Two devs for Burnout said this was not the case.

Nagidar

Wow, I thought this was all settled, the Xenos > RSX, this was already settled a long time ago....

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

casey133

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

casey133

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

You know what, heres one.

And another.

the game was delayed because of the PS3s lack of RAM and the 360s lack of space on a DVD9

the 360 has a better GPU which is overall more important then the CPU

the PS3 has a more powerfull CPU but it is extremely hard to program far and frankly it isnt their job to push the PS3s limits, GTA was never about the graphics

FF13 MGS 4 resistance 2 and killzone 2 are not out yet we dont know exactly how do they look like

you obviously have no idea what your talking about, just admit your wrong and we can all move along

TheEvilBaron

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

Nagidar

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

You know what, heres one.

And another.

I read both articles from start to end, the first article does not say the 360 GPU is better than that of the PS3, itsimply says it's more flexible.

The second article does claim the 360 GPU is more powerful, this claim is made by an anonymous person who claims to be a developer who also even admits that what he said was his "personal feelings".

Is this your "alot of people"? One anonymous person who claims to be a developer and also admits what he said was based on his "personal feelings"?

I don't think I'm the one grasping for straws.

[QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="casey133"]

Two questions:

1. Settled by who?

2. Source?

Nagidar

1. By alot of people, look it up, do some research.

2. Here are the specs: Link

1. By who? Who are "alot of people"?

2. I read the post "maximum theoretical numbers" thanks you, but I could not find where it said the 360 has a better GPU.

OMG, are you serious? fanboy much?

Let me break it down for you:

The Xenos uses USA that allows it to run at 95 - 99% efficiency, I'm sure you can put those theoretical numbers and the 95-99% efficiency together.

The RSX is a G7 GPU, which has an efficiency of around 75%, do the math, you'd be surprised what you'll come up with.

Sorry but you didn't really answer my questions. Seeing as how "efficiency" means the ratio of the output to the input, you fail to consider the quality of that output. I would rather have a person who did better work even if it took longer, than have someone who tried to hurry up and get it done but not do as good of a job as the first one.

So my questions still remain, who are "alot of people" and where in that link did it say the 360 has a better GPU?

Efficiency is the ratio of maximum power to actual output. Nice try though.

My god, you're really grasping for straws here, if the numbers themselves don't say it, than your fanboy goggles are VERY thick, I'm not going to dig through web sites to find a dev to prove my point, I have already provided the proof and all you've done is deny it because you can't see past the fanboyness in your head.

You know what, heres one.

And another.

I read both articles from start to end, the first article does not say the 360 GPU is better than that of the PS3, it simply says it's more flexible.

The second article does claim the 360 GPU is more powerful, this claim is made by an anonymous person who claims to be a developer who also even admits that what he said was his "personal feelings".

Is this your "alot of people"? One anonymous person who claims to be a developer and also admits what he is writing is based on his "personal feelings"?

I don't think I'm the one grasping for straws.

PS:

Efficiency:

S: (n) efficiency (the ratio of the output to the input of any system) - wordnet.princeton.edu.

And what did I say it meant above again? "the ratio of the output to the input".

Nice try though.