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#1 Firelore29
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The latest numbers from the PS3 are coming in from various sources. Anytime there is a price cut the system is going to sell better. The problem is that the sales tend to taper off. Pulmonary numbers aren't very promising though.

Hardware: Console Weekly Total
DS - 97,404 13,204,775
Wii - 76,394 3,717,046
PSP - 50,890 8,678,650
PS2 - 43,406 44,353,568
PS3 - 41,005 1,624,358
360 - 35,084 6,537,592
GBA - 14,451 40,680,595
GC - 1,864 12,695,387

http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

As you can see there was some significant increase but the PS3 is still only selling half as many systems as the Wii and not as many as the PS2. You have to assume that these sales numbers will continue for a bit but the PS3 will probably drop back again as is common with any price drop.

In case you don't trust vgcharts here is a Punchjump article talking about ebay sales. Essentially the article says that even though the PS3's sales have increased significantly on ebay it's still in last place on sales there.

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=4540

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#2 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Doesn't NPD come out today? Can't we wait for that?
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#3 azad_champ
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Yes, the sales will most likely drop. But not to the same sales figure before the price drop. That's not gonna happen.
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#4 sunscorch
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Walmart, Target and Amazon disagree.
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The latest numbers from the PS3 are coming in from various sources. Anytime there is a price cut the system is going to sell better. The problem is that the sales tend to taper off. Pulmonary numbers aren't very promising though.

Hardware: Console Weekly Total
DS - 97,404 13,204,775
Wii - 76,394 3,717,046
PSP - 50,890 8,678,650
PS2 - 43,406 44,353,568
PS3 - 41,005 1,624,358
360 - 35,084 6,537,592
GBA - 14,451 40,680,595
GC - 1,864 12,695,387

http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

As you can see there was some significant increase but the PS3 is still only selling half as many systems as the Wii and not as many as the PS2. You have to assume that these sales numbers will continue for a bit but the PS3 will probably drop back again as is common with any price drop.

In case you don't trust vgcharts here is a Punchjump article talking about ebay sales. Essentially the article says that even though the PS3's sales have increased significantly on ebay it's still in last place on sales there.

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=4540

Firelore29

Just for future reference, the word you were looking for is "preliminary"

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#6 PBSnipes
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Don't ever use VGcharts or nextgenwars numbers ever, they are soley estimates. If you have to use something other than the official numbers from the console manufacturers use NPD/media crate.
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#7 LastSamurai14
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Well, 6000 people decided to spend the extra $100 on a system with no good games.......that says alot if you ask me.

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lemmings lemmings....hahahhaha they make me laugh
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#9 JustE32007
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Doing better then 360 this month..
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#10 legalize3
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still better then xbox360

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#11 dimar19
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500$ is too much for three games. I'm waiting price cut to 100$
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Doing better then 360 this month..JustE32007

Week.

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#13 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="JustE32007"]Doing better then 360 this month..KirbyFan10101

Week.

Umm maybe a better word would be " Weak " ;)
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#14 elementz28
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this is only sales for one week right?? lets wait till this month is over...PS3 bein sold out at target walmart and etc..we will see biggger numbers..
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#15 JustE32007
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[QUOTE="JustE32007"]Doing better then 360 this month..KirbyFan10101

Week.

for a 500-600 console with no games, that is pretty good...

think about when it does have games like MGS4, etc

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Why are you checking the "pulmonary" numbers? Does the PS3 have a heart condition? Finally the news lemmings have been hoping for! :P

IMO, the PS3 sales will probably taper off within a week or two. They will probably be a little higher than they were before the price drop in the long run, but I really don't think they will stay above X360 sales for long. It'll probably be like when it was released in Europe, a quick spike in sales and then a drop to almost exactly the same sales level as before. After all, it is still the most expensive console.

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#17 Firelore29
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Doesn't NPD come out today? Can't we wait for that?Jandurin

Those numbers are for last month. That's before the price drop.

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#18 nolson
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Yeah i walked into my walmart last night and it was sold out of ps3's for the first time since launch.
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#19 darthogre
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You base your opinion on one week of sales?

my god, you are jsut as bad as the people saying PS3 sales mean it's going to overtake X360 lol.

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#20 Halo2_Norad
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It's not a price cut, it's a clearence sale.

BTW... I back after a 7 day suspension. I missed E3!!!!

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#21 mazdaspeed-rx8
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Walmart, Target and Amazon disagree.sunscorch
you can add circuit city and best buy to that list.
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#22 Lights-Shadow
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The sales probably dropped because they need to ship more PS3s out, for no one has PS3s where I live.
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How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.
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#24 mazdaspeed-rx8
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It's not a price cut, it's a clearence sale.

BTW... I back after a 7 day suspension. I missed E3!!!!

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oh dang you missed e3? here ill break it down to you. Nintendo announced Wii Fit, Ms announced a new toy for babys to play with , sony dropped the bomb with kill zone 2.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Doesn't NPD come out today? Can't we wait for that?Firelore29

Those numbers are for last month. That's before the price drop.

My bad. I figured it out after (what you were saying).

Still, one more month and you can see the numbers for this month :P.

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How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.gromit007

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

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#27 Firelore29
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You base your opinion on one week of sales?

my god, you are jsut as bad as the people saying PS3 sales mean it's going to overtake X360 lol.

darthogre

I'm just presenting the numbers here. Based on the sales numbers so far the PS3 is no where close to the Wii's sales.

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#28 Funkyhamster
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Just for future reference, the word you were looking for is "preliminary"

subject117

:lol:... that gave me a good laugh. Especially because I'm so used to hearing the word 'pulmonary' (I have asthma) that I didn't notice it the first time...

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[QUOTE="gromit007"]How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.darthogre

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

So very wrong. The $499 60GB model is not being made anymore. Starting next month, an 80GB will hit the market at $599, again.

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How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.gromit007

Yup. When the 60gigs are sold out at $499 and only the 80gig bundle at $599 is available, sales will drop for a while. I think if they drop the price of the 80gig down to $499 like many people seem to think then sales will pretty much stay the same for a while until a serious price drop to $399 or even $299. Sales of consoles see the biggest increase around the $199 price point that some call the sweet spot and this is one reason the Wii is selling out at $249.

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#31 Bread_or_Decide
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Look I know it was popular to hate Sony and the PS3. But those times are gone. The games look good. The console dropped in price and its helping sales.

Get over it. Wii has sales and thats all it has. Last I checked that wasn't a game you could play.

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#32 Coldplay07
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Look I know it was popular to hate Sony and the PS3. But those times are gone. The games look good. The console dropped in price and its helping sales.

Get over it. Wii has sales and thats all it has. Last I checked that wasn't a game you could play.

Bread_or_Decide

PS3 hasn't gotten those games YET. So until that time, your statement is invalid. Wii is still outselling anything else anyway. The DS is a beast and Nintendo is on top of the world atm.

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#33 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="gromit007"]How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.gromit007

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

So very wrong. The $499 60GB model is not being made anymore. Starting next month, an 80GB will hit the market at $599, again.

Yeah..its a bundle..comes with a game. Why does everyone conveniently leave that out?

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#34 acviper123
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If you ask me, the PS3's future hasnt looked this bright since its release. It had a very strong E3 showing (won it if you ask me), has some killer exclusives coming soon, MGS4 and Killzone 2 look amazing. Price cut has sales on the rise. I disagree with the introduction of the 80 GB PS3, but other than that it looks like Sony is making the right moves at the moment.
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Look I know it was popular to hate Sony and the PS3. But those times are gone. The games look good. The console dropped in price and its helping sales.

Get over it. Wii has sales and thats all it has. Last I checked that wasn't a game you could play.

Coldplay07

PS3 hasn't gotten those games YET. So until that time, your statement is invalid. Wii is still outselling anything else anyway. The DS is a beast and Nintendo is on top of the world atm.

Last I checked Wii owners were also waiting for games. In August it all starts with Lair and then its a a snowball rolling. Sony knows what E3 is about, hyping games and thats what they did. You can buy a PS3 now and look forward to alot of thosetitles in just 2-3 months time.

Its amazing how all Sony news is spun or ignored.

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Last I checked Wii owners were also waiting for games. In August it all starts with Lair and then its a a snowball rolling. Sony knows what E3 is about, hyping games and thats what they did. You can buy a PS3 now and look forward to alot of thosetitles in just 2-3 months time.

Its amazing how all Sony news is spun or ignored.

Bread_or_Decide

August = Sheep time.

Metroid Prime 3.

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#37 Chrono21X
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price drop -> 12th(?)

week cutoff -> 14th

In those 2 or 3 days(depening on time) PS3 surged from probably a ways under the 360 to a ways over seems like its surely helping. I think next week the PS3 will sell more by a greater margin.

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The latest numbers from the PS3 are coming in from various sources. Anytime there is a price cut the system is going to sell better. The problem is that the sales tend to taper off. Pulmonary numbers aren't very promising though.

Hardware: Console Weekly Total
DS - 97,404 13,204,775
Wii - 76,394 3,717,046
PSP - 50,890 8,678,650
PS2 - 43,406 44,353,568
PS3 - 41,005 1,624,358
360 - 35,084 6,537,592
GBA - 14,451 40,680,595
GC - 1,864 12,695,387

http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

As you can see there was some significant increase but the PS3 is still only selling half as many systems as the Wii and not as many as the PS2. You have to assume that these sales numbers will continue for a bit but the PS3 will probably drop back again as is common with any price drop.

In case you don't trust vgcharts here is a Punchjump article talking about ebay sales. Essentially the article says that even though the PS3's sales have increased significantly on ebay it's still in last place on sales there.

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=4540

Firelore29

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[QUOTE="gromit007"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="gromit007"]How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.Bread_or_Decide

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

So very wrong. The $499 60GB model is not being made anymore. Starting next month, an 80GB will hit the market at $599, again.

Yeah..its a bundle..comes with a game. Why does everyone conveniently leave that out?

Honestly, it doesn't matter. It really isn't a price drop at all. The 20gb was $500 before, and the 80GB will be the new $600 model. This tatic comes from the electronic instrustry (adding more features at base prices, selling lesser models until stock is gone so the the feature-rich will take over)

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Once Sony figures out a way to drop the price down to below $300, I'm sure sales will pick up. Hopefully by the time that does happen, there'll be a decently sized library of good games to enjoy as well.
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[QUOTE="gromit007"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="gromit007"]How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.Bread_or_Decide

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

So very wrong. The $499 60GB model is not being made anymore. Starting next month, an 80GB will hit the market at $599, again.

Yeah..its a bundle..comes with a game. Why does everyone conveniently leave that out?

Because 20GB plus an in-house developed game does NOT equal $100. The price cut is just a way to move units and get more units in homes. They are taking a serious financial beating doing this. It hints of slight desperation.

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Last I checked Wii owners were also waiting for games. In August it all starts with Lair and then its a a snowball rolling. Sony knows what E3 is about, hyping games and thats what they did. You can buy a PS3 now and look forward to alot of thosetitles in just 2-3 months time.

Its amazing how all Sony news is spun or ignored.

Jandurin

August = Sheep time.

Metroid Prime 3.

And Bioshock on the 360.

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#43 darthogre
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You base your opinion on one week of sales?

my god, you are jsut as bad as the people saying PS3 sales mean it's going to overtake X360 lol.

Firelore29

I'm just presenting the numbers here. Based on the sales numbers so far the PS3 is no where close to the Wii's sales.

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The latest numbers from the PS3 are coming in from various sources. Anytime there is a price cut the system is going to sell better. The problem is that the sales tend to taper off. Pulmonary numbers aren't very promising though.

Hardware: Console Weekly Total
DS - 97,404 13,204,775
Wii - 76,394 3,717,046
PSP - 50,890 8,678,650
PS2 - 43,406 44,353,568
PS3 - 41,005 1,624,358
360 - 35,084 6,537,592
GBA - 14,451 40,680,595
GC - 1,864 12,695,387

http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php

As you can see there was some significant increase but the PS3 is still only selling half as many systems as the Wii and not as many as the PS2. You have to assume that these sales numbers will continue for a bit but the PS3 will probably drop back again as is common with any price drop.

In case you don't trust vgcharts here is a Punchjump article talking about ebay sales. Essentially the article says that even though the PS3's sales have increased significantly on ebay it's still in last place on sales there.

http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=4540

Firelore29

The numbers may seem small but atleast there sales are improving, and that is a good thing for sony. I look for the ps3 to really start taking off around october near holiday seasons. This is when all the great games will be out around that time and then u will see ps3's selling very well.

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="gromit007"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="gromit007"]How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.gromit007

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

So very wrong. The $499 60GB model is not being made anymore. Starting next month, an 80GB will hit the market at $599, again.

Yeah..its a bundle..comes with a game. Why does everyone conveniently leave that out?

Because 20GB plus an in-house developed game does NOT equal $100. The price cut is just a way to move units and get more units in homes. They are taking a serious financial beating doing this. It hints of slight desperation.

well the game costs 60 dollars. I know that for a fact.

I don't know what 20gbs go for these days.

So..before the price drop Sony was stupid for selling a 600 console. But they drop the price and its desperation. Pick one because either way to you, Sony loses. I'll take the price drop because you're just going to piss and moan no matter what they do.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Last I checked Wii owners were also waiting for games. In August it all starts with Lair and then its a a snowball rolling. Sony knows what E3 is about, hyping games and thats what they did. You can buy a PS3 now and look forward to alot of thosetitles in just 2-3 months time.

Its amazing how all Sony news is spun or ignored.

Bread_or_Decide

August = Sheep time.

Metroid Prime 3.

And Bioshock on the 360.

Not as much hype, imo.

It may be a better game, but it doesn't have as much hype.

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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="gromit007"]How many of you all in your predictions are factoring in the fact that the price of the PS3 is going to INCREASE very soon. People like fire sales, thats why it is selling right now. Just wait.gromit007

They've said it will stay at $499 no matter what.

The rumor part is they are going to release another sku with no PS2 chip and only 40 gigs.....at $399. If that is true, PS3 is going to give Wii a run for it's money during the holidays (in N.America....Japan I think is a lost cause until FF13 comes out)

So very wrong. The $499 60GB model is not being made anymore. Starting next month, an 80GB will hit the market at $599, again.

god I hate this error where it leaves my entire comment blank and then I have to retype EVERYTHING.

short version of response, it will be $499 regardless what sells out. If the 60 gig sales out and all that is left is the 80gig, it will go to $499....if that doesn't happen they'll suddenly have a NEW SKU that is $499 or even $399 (the new rumored price). One thing is for sure, the removeval of the PS2 chipset and drop in price of Blu-Ray technology....the PS3 will be cheaper than $499 by the end of the year. When that happens I have no idea but my guess is once the 60 gig sku run out.....you don't replace it with a limited bundle edition sku. They can't announce it yet because that will kill sales everywhere.

Expect something around Halo street date....it would be just like Sony to try to do something like this.

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Last I checked Wii owners were also waiting for games. In August it all starts with Lair and then its a a snowball rolling. Sony knows what E3 is about, hyping games and thats what they did. You can buy a PS3 now and look forward to alot of thosetitles in just 2-3 months time.

Its amazing how all Sony news is spun or ignored.

Jandurin

August = Sheep time.

Metroid Prime 3.

And Bioshock on the 360.

Not as much hype, imo.

It may be a better game, but it doesn't have as much hype.

It was gamespy's # 1 game at E3. Not alot of hype? Perhaps not in the mainstream. Any game site worth a darn has covered this game and its going to be amazing.

Who cares about hype when the game looks fantastic? When did SW because "TEH HYPEZ TEH SALEZ" What happened to being about the games?

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i get a kick out of this. Posts like this remind me of baseball fans who hate the yankees and are always quick to announce they are "dead" but come the end of the year they are always rightaround the top. All the people hating on the ps3 are having wishful thinking because deep down inside in places they don't want to admit, these same people who bash the ps3 are scared to death that the ps3 will be right back at the top at the end of the generation. and i'm not even a sony fanboy and it is still so obvious.
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It's not a price cut, it's a clearence sale.

BTW... I back after a 7 day suspension. I missed E3!!!!

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:lol: You still could have watched the videos... You pay for Gamespot judging from your colored name..so them banning you from the forums doesn't do anything in ragards to the rest of the site.