The PS3 is entirely to expensive.

Most consumes are all about earned value.  Sony's basic buisness model for the PS3 said consumers want HD players and they get one along with a great video game console (and a home media center blah).  It's basically the exact same model they used for the PS1 (cd player/vcd player) and the PS2 (dvd player).  Unlike the previous two systems, however, the PS3 is way to expensive.  The average consume cannot afford 600 dollars as that is a boatload of money.  

The PS2 by contrast was released at 300 which was considered by many (including myself) to be too expensive even at that.  That system was released at the end of 2000 which was only 6 years ago.  Six years and inflation has caused gaming consoles to double in price?

I think the real problem is that people look at that 600 dollars and they say to themselves...  Hey I can get that or I can get a Wii and a 360 for less money.  I think the average casual basically says 600 dollars #)(@ that I'm buying a new TV (or something simlar).

Feel free to go off about the cell and the cost of blue ray players and how I don't know jack about economics but I think the sales numbers speak for themselves. 

You do realise that when the ps2 lanched in australia it was $750 which is abit over 600 american dollars and now the ps3 is $1000 so it really isn't a huge price change.DriftMax

I don't live in Austrailia.  Although I don't live in the other reagons so I can't claim if it's to expensive there 1000 dollars seems astronomical.

Most consumes are all about earned value. Sony's basic buisness model for the PS3 said consumers want HD players and they get one along with a great video game console (and a home media center blah). It's basically the exact same model they used for the PS1 (cd player/vcd player) and the PS2 (dvd player). Unlike the previous two systems, however, the PS3 is way to expensive. The average consume cannot afford 600 dollars as that is a boatload of money.

The PS2 by contrast was released at 300 which was considered by many (including myself) to be too expensive even at that. That system was released at the end of 2000 which was only 6 years ago. Six years and inflation has caused gaming consoles to double in price?

I think the real problem is that people look at that 600 dollars and they say to themselves... Hey I can get that or I can get a Wii and a 360 for less money. I think the average casual basically says 600 dollars #)(@ that I'm buying a new TV (or something simlar).

Feel free to go off about the cell and the cost of blue ray players and how I don't know jack about economics but I think the sales numbers speak for themselves.

Firelore29

I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.thedarkomen

Just because you were able to afford one doen't make it a good value.  Heck I can go buy a Porche tomorrow if I wanted to but that wouldn't make it a smart decision.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.Firelore29

Just because you were able to afford one doen't make it a good value. Heck I can go buy a Porche tomorrow if I wanted to but that wouldn't make it a smart decision.

Well it isn't a good value when your driving a 1000$ used car that breaks often.

Hmm... reminds me of a certain other console.

/owned 

[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

Most consumes are all about earned value. Sony's basic buisness model for the PS3 said consumers want HD players and they get one along with a great video game console (and a home media center blah). It's basically the exact same model they used for the PS1 (cd player/vcd player) and the PS2 (dvd player). Unlike the previous two systems, however, the PS3 is way to expensive. The average consume cannot afford 600 dollars as that is a boatload of money.

The PS2 by contrast was released at 300 which was considered by many (including myself) to be too expensive even at that. That system was released at the end of 2000 which was only 6 years ago. Six years and inflation has caused gaming consoles to double in price?

I think the real problem is that people look at that 600 dollars and they say to themselves... Hey I can get that or I can get a Wii and a 360 for less money. I think the average casual basically says 600 dollars #)(@ that I'm buying a new TV (or something simlar).

Feel free to go off about the cell and the cost of blue ray players and how I don't know jack about economics but I think the sales numbers speak for themselves.

SergeantSnitch

500 would have been better.  Sony simply put to much technology into the system which forced them to price it that high. 

There are hidden costs on Sony's system to you realize.  It doesn't even come with the HD cables.

I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.thedarkomen

Well, good for you. You give so little information that it gets other people thinking. Are u living with ur parents? If so, u won't have to worry about rent, food, and bills. On top of that, you won't have to worry much about other things like a social life due the fact that you're portraying urself as a person who sets their priorities upon gaming rather than an active social life.

I'm a poor college student (BUT MY PARENTS HAVE A JOB AND ARE QUITE RICH) and I was able to afford it easily (OR BETTER, MY PARENTS COULD BUY ONE FOR ME). /end thread.thedarkomen

lol:lol:

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Firelore29"]

Most consumes are all about earned value. Sony's basic buisness model for the PS3 said consumers want HD players and they get one along with a great video game console (and a home media center blah). It's basically the exact same model they used for the PS1 (cd player/vcd player) and the PS2 (dvd player). Unlike the previous two systems, however, the PS3 is way to expensive. The average consume cannot afford 600 dollars as that is a boatload of money.

The PS2 by contrast was released at 300 which was considered by many (including myself) to be too expensive even at that. That system was released at the end of 2000 which was only 6 years ago. Six years and inflation has caused gaming consoles to double in price?

I think the real problem is that people look at that 600 dollars and they say to themselves... Hey I can get that or I can get a Wii and a 360 for less money. I think the average casual basically says 600 dollars #)(@ that I'm buying a new TV (or something simlar).

Feel free to go off about the cell and the cost of blue ray players and how I don't know jack about economics but I think the sales numbers speak for themselves.

Firelore29

500 would have been better. Sony simply put to much technology into the system which forced them to price it that high.

There are hidden costs on Sony's system to you realize. It doesn't even come with the HD cables.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.Firelore29

Just because you were able to afford one doen't make it a good value. Heck I can go buy a Porche tomorrow if I wanted to but that wouldn't make it a smart decision.

I'm in college, no job, no rich parents and have a PS3.....hows that for the average consumer....its too expensive because fanboys want it to be.....Goku004

It's not that I think the PS3 is too expensive, it's that I'm just not willing to pay $600+ for current gen gaming. Millions of Wii owners agree. 

it's not expensive for you americans atm.. the dollar is just worth crap compared to earlier.raualex

[QUOTE="Goku004"]I'm in college, no job, no rich parents and have a PS3.....hows that for the average consumer....its too expensive because fanboys want it to be.....Boba_Fett_3710

It's not that I think the PS3 is too expensive, it's that I'm just not willing to pay $600+ for current gen gaming. Millions of Wii owners agree. 

Whats wrong with waiting till the price drops? 

alot of people here in the uk are getting ps3 for around 360 to 380 from online stores and that is only 60 to 80 pounds more than what they payed for ps2 when it launched here so you can see why many people are opting to buy a ps3 now......

but at its original price its too much for a console with no note worthy games..

and i agree the general consumer will look at the other consoles and there prices and just get one of those aswel instead of paying the crazy price for the ps3.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

[QUOTE="Goku004"]I'm in college, no job, no rich parents and have a PS3.....hows that for the average consumer....its too expensive because fanboys want it to be.....Goku004

It's not that I think the PS3 is too expensive, it's that I'm just not willing to pay $600+ for current gen gaming. Millions of Wii owners agree.

Whats wrong with waiting till the price drops?

 Nothing, that's why I don't have one yet.

[QUOTE="raualex"]it's not expensive for you americans atm.. the dollar is just worth crap compared to earlier.NextGenNow

USD especally. here in Norway you can get one for 6NOK these days, compared to 7.5NOK for a US dollar a few years back :)  

You do realise that when the ps2 lanched in australia it was $750 which is abit over 600 american dollars and now the ps3 is $1000 so it really isn't a huge price change.DriftMax

For that matter, the PSP and Wii had the same launch price here in Aus - $400 - demonstrating that Sony gaming systems are extremely expensive?

*Edit* Whoops, sorry, the PSP launch price was $30 more than the Wii launch price.

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

xxThyLordxx

Cheap is not the word I would use.  I think you are looking for the term "good value" at $600. 

Yeah it is but thats no reason to hate it.

May is an irregular month if you get paid every two weeks. You end up getting THREE checks instead of the usual two. I used my third check to get the PS3.

You just find ways to buy what you want. *shrug* Its not impossible if you don't have kids, a car, or a mortgage haha.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.Firelore29

Just because you were able to afford one doen't make it a good value. Heck I can go buy a Porche tomorrow if I wanted to but that wouldn't make it a smart decision.

Wow... so now the PS3 value is in question? You gots to be freaking kidding me. here is a link www.playstion.com. This will show you what all comes with the PS3. Silly talk to say it's not worth its value.

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

xxThyLordxx

The fact that they lose money on each system sold does not make it cheap. I rather have a PS3 with no HD that was the same price has a Wii than a PS3 I can not aford. I want a PS3 but darn it with me having a family, I can't justify spend $600.

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

HarlockJC

The fact that they lose money on each system sold does not make it cheap. I rather have a PS3 with no HD that was the same price has a Wii than a PS3 I can not aford. I want a PS3 but darn it with me having a family, I can't justify spend $600.

It just mean you too poor to afford one. 

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

shungokustasu

The fact that they lose money on each system sold does not make it cheap. I rather have a PS3 with no HD that was the same price has a Wii than a PS3 I can not aford. I want a PS3 but darn it with me having a family, I can't justify spend $600.

It just mean you too poor to afford one. 

I can afford one if I wanted to. But for the same price I can take my family to Disney World. I had the money to buy one and again for the same price I got my kids a swing set. Has a father if I had just $600 extra to spend on a game system it hard to spend that on myself and not something for my family. And trust me I want one but I will not spend the $600 on one. I may get the core off of ebay they go for a lot less than retail.

[QUOTE="thedarkomen"]I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.Firelore29

Just because you were able to afford one doen't make it a good value. Heck I can go buy a Porche tomorrow if I wanted to but that wouldn't make it a smart decision.

The PS3 is entirely to expensive IF you are only looking to play video games, end of story. 

X360 is in the same boat.  If you look at the numbers, it's basically selling at the same pace the X360 was when it launched.  If the PS3 is a failure in your eyes, so is the X360 unfortunately.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

HarlockJC

The fact that they lose money on each system sold does not make it cheap. I rather have a PS3 with no HD that was the same price has a Wii than a PS3 I can not aford. I want a PS3 but darn it with me having a family, I can't justify spend $600.

It just mean you too poor to afford one. 

I can afford one if I wanted to. But for the same price I can take my family to Disney World. I had the money to buy one and again for the same price I got my kids a swing set. Has a father if I had just $600 extra to spend on a game system it hard to spend that on myself and not something for my family. And trust me I want one but I will not spend the $600 on one. I may get the core off of ebay they go for a lot less than retail.

Ok maybe you are joking and not being serious because there is no way you can pay for a family vacation to Disney World for only $600 dollars.  Do you live across the street or something?

oh and btw, you have a problem buying $600 game system but a $600 dollar swing set?  LOL, what kind of swing set did you get? 

I can afford one if I wanted to. But for the same price I can take my family to Disney World. I had the money to buy one and again for the same price I got my kids a swing set. Has a father if I had just $600 extra to spend on a game system it hard to spend that on myself and not something for my family. And trust me I want one but I will not spend the $600 on one. I may get the core off of ebay they go for a lot less than retail.

HarlockJC

There is no doubt in my mind that you have $600 dollars to get one. Poor is if you do spend the $600 for one you don't have enough resource to keep your basic living needs. i.e. taking your kids to Disney world(kids entertainment), food, water, light, etc...  

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

xxThyLordxx

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

Zero-G_basic

Do you really mean that? 

I'm a poor college student and I was able to afford it easily. /end thread.thedarkomen

What else does your 'poor' life dictate in college? Having a 36inch HDTV in your dorm room instead of 42?

[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

I think the PS3 is really cheap, it cost them $850 to make but they are selling it at $600. it is a bargain. just because you cant afford it, makes it expensive. some people find Wii very expensive, which is true, Wii is overpriced, it cost Nintendo $200 to make and they are selling at $250. while Nintendo gains $50 on every Wii sold, Sony loses $250 on every PS3 sold.

 

shungokustasu

Do you really mean that? 

Uhh it is EXPENSIVE. In fact it's one of the most expensive consoles ever made! What are you people talking about saying it's not expensive? What if Blu-ray fails? Pretty expensive useless blu-ray player you got there. It doesn't nearly have enough home media options (right now) to be considered a great all-in-one media center.I could buy it right now but no way am i going too, that price is probably the biggest turn-off to gaming that the world has ever seen.VideoGameGuy

If Blu-Ray movies die the PS3 will always get games. Look at the PSP, still being supported, still selling just fine, even though as a movie format UMD died.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Uhh it is EXPENSIVE. In fact it's one of the most expensive consoles ever made! What are you people talking about saying it's not expensive? What if Blu-ray fails? Pretty expensive useless blu-ray player you got there. It doesn't nearly have enough home media options (right now) to be considered a great all-in-one media center.I could buy it right now but no way am i going too, that price is probably the biggest turn-off to gaming that the world has ever seen.Bread_or_Decide

If Blu-Ray movies die the PS3 will always get games. Look at the PSP, still being supported, still selling just fine, even though as a movie format UMD died. 

but it's no longer getting the support it used to get. support has now shifted to the DS. partly because of hardware sales being lower but also because the ppl they buy psp's aren't gamers and don't buy many games at all. 

Also don't forget that by buying a PS3, we are giving money to a country that does not believe in the American way of life.  I say you should stick with the Xbox 360 and buy quality over anything from Sony.   That's just my two cents.

Good day.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]Uhh it is EXPENSIVE. In fact it's one of the most expensive consoles ever made! What are you people talking about saying it's not expensive? What if Blu-ray fails? Pretty expensive useless blu-ray player you got there. It doesn't nearly have enough home media options (right now) to be considered a great all-in-one media center.I could buy it right now but no way am i going too, that price is probably the biggest turn-off to gaming that the world has ever seen.Bread_or_Decide

If Blu-Ray movies die the PS3 will always get games. Look at the PSP, still being supported, still selling just fine, even though as a movie format UMD died.

Also don't forget that by buying a PS3, we are giving money to a country that does not believe in the American way of life.  I say you should stick with the Xbox 360 and buy quality over anything from Sony.   That's just my two cents.

Good day.

americangamerx

I think the PS3 I can afford one if I wanted to. But for the same price I can take my family to Disney World. I had the money to buy one and again for the same price I got my kids a swing set. Has a father if I had just $600 extra to spend on a game system it hard to spend that on myself and not something for my family. And trust me I want one but I will not spend the $600 on one. I may get the core off of ebay they go for a lot less than retail.HarlockJC

I'm with this guy.  Those of us oldies in "the real world" have mortgage, property taxes, etc to worry about.  I could afford the $600 and probably not notice it's missing - but I have a hard time justifying doing so when I think of other uses for that money.  I hate growing up :(

good post, tc...

you don't need to be an economics major to see the glaring holes in sony's "strategy" with the ps3.

it's just insane to price a toy at $600... i don't care what kind movie player it has....

sony is paying dearly for that bungle....