The PS3 took a massive nose-dive this year.

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#201 Half-Way
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[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]If the ps3 doesn't get a AAAAE this year, then YEAH. I thought that this was known.

ermacness

it wont get an AAAAE,

and just to get this logic, what happens when a year ends and 2 consoles both have equal amount of AAAE's

do they both get declared winner or what?

or one console has 5 AAAE's (but one is a 9.5) and the other has 6 AAAEs?

If they both have the same amount of a specific scoring exclusives, then it goes down to the next category.

I assume that since a 9.0 and a 9.5 are both considered as a AAA rating, i guess they tie out , unless you're going through the spreadsheet with a fine-tooth comb.

I thought that this was knownthst if a console have a HIGHER count of HIGHER rated exclusives than another console, that the console with the higher amount of higher exclusives wins on paper out of that comparison.

well i consider it a very flawed system, because a console with 1 AAA can beat a console with 12 AAA (8.5)

which makes no sense

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#202 glez13
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] So which parts are meant to be taken seriously and which parts were only engineered to provoke a certain response?Hahadouken

Sigh,You're just adding fuel to the fire.

I can just picture Stevo in his super-secret underground lair rubbing his hands together "ah...GREAT SUCCESS!"

I'm with you there. So this whole thread is meant to mimic some random user's random thread's random list, which I didn't read? Seems reasonable. :roll:

No. All of the list thing happened in this thread. This thread only shows the SW games list for 2010(stevo makes a specific one for each year, so it's more comprehensive in that sense and purpose) in a graph form. Basically just same old SW but in a graphical mode. As usual some people didn't liked the result and started with the conspiracy theories, the company wars, the 360 vs PS3 wars and who knows what else.

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#203 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

it wont get an AAAAE,

and just to get this logic, what happens when a year ends and 2 consoles both have equal amount of AAAE's

do they both get declared winner or what?

or one console has 5 AAAE's (but one is a 9.5) and the other has 6 AAAEs?

Half-Way

If they both have the same amount of a specific scoring exclusives, then it goes down to the next category.

I assume that since a 9.0 and a 9.5 are both considered as a AAA rating, i guess they tie out , unless you're going through the spreadsheet with a fine-tooth comb.

I thought that this was knownthst if a console have a HIGHER count of HIGHER rated exclusives than another console, that the console with the higher amount of higher exclusives wins on paper out of that comparison.

well i consider it a very flawed system, because a console with 1 AAA can beat a console with 12 AAA (8.5)

which makes no sense

1st off, an 8.5 isn't AAA, it a AA rating.

Secondly, that doesn't mean that the other console line-up is horrid, as a matter of fact, many would probably agree that the console with the 12 AA rated games had a better year than the console with the AAA rated game, but "ON PAPER" the console or system with the 1 AAAE over the other console would win.

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#204 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

it wont get an AAAAE,

and just to get this logic, what happens when a year ends and 2 consoles both have equal amount of AAAE's

do they both get declared winner or what?

or one console has 5 AAAE's (but one is a 9.5) and the other has 6 AAAEs?

Half-Way

If they both have the same amount of a specific scoring exclusives, then it goes down to the next category.

I assume that since a 9.0 and a 9.5 are both considered as a AAA rating, i guess they tie out , unless you're going through the spreadsheet with a fine-tooth comb.

I thought that this was knownthst if a console have a HIGHER count of HIGHER rated exclusives than another console, that the console with the higher amount of higher exclusives wins on paper out of that comparison.

well i consider it a very flawed system, because a console with 1 AAA can beat a console with 12 AAA (8.5)

which makes no sense

It really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The SW spreadsheets and reviews etc. are purely a measuring stick of "ownage". Nobody could possibly have time to play every high scoring exclusive on every system to the point that they would even form a valid opinion on all of them, let alone get the maximum enjoyment out of them. In the end you'll keep playing the games you are playing and the spreadsheets won't factor into your life. Some people have been playing WoW since 2004 and don't give a rats ass about anything that's happened since then, and you can't tell me they're getting less enjoyment out of it than other people playing games. I'd rather have one 8.5-scoring game that I am in love with and will play for months or years than 10 9.0-scoring games that really don't do anything for me.
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#205 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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Yeah, after the barrage of exclusives near the beginning of the year, it's a little disappointing to not finish the year as strongly. Oh well, it only makes 2011 all the better :D

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#206 SPYDER0416
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I'm confused, what 4 high profile exclusive games did the PC have during those first two month sets? Because I don't remember anything good for PC until SCII, CiV5 and Amnesia, which all came out during summer.

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#207 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Basically just same old SW but in a graphical mode. As usual some people didn't liked the result and started with the conspiracy theories, the company wars, the 360 vs PS3 wars and who knows what else.

glez13

I tried to be fresh. :P

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#208 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'm confused, what 4 high profile exclusive games did the PC have during those first two month sets? Because I don't remember anything good for PC until SCII, CiV5 and Amnesia, which all came out during summer.

SPYDER0416

  1. Napoleon: TW
  2. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Chaos Rising
  3. S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
  4. Plain Sight

It's all found in the spreadsheet in my signature or in the OP.

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#209 Zaibach
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Got to say, I expected better frm you steve....

goood effort old chap

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#210 SPYDER0416
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If you are going to count plain sight then you may as well count Limbo, Joe Danger and Sports Champions. The graph also doesn't take into account games on some platforms that aren't on others, such as ME2 on PC/360 and Red Dead Redemption on consoles, which I'm assuming would factor into this giant pointless fanboy graph if you were really serious.

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#211 Floppy_Jim
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Stevo_the_Lem is at it again.

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

I do completely agree with what you're saying. Their strong start petered off rather pathetically and following their delay binge there's nothing left but the running joke that is GT5, Move stuff and HD collections. Roll on 2011.

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#212 DarkStraberry
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Until Gamespot reviews Atelier Rorona we can't have a complete picture because it might be an AAAAE title; I know I've been playing it a lot recently.
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#213 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Stevo_the_Lem is at it again.

I do completely agree with what you're saying. Their strong start petered off rather pathetically and following their delay binge there's nothing left but the running joke that is GT5, Move stuff and HD collections. Roll on 2011.

Floppy_Jim

lol! You can't re-use your display picture. That's just soo.... lame. :P

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#214 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

They're still exclussives damn it!

Stevo_the_gamer

Fact is Microsoft delivered with exclussives all year long

  • Halo Reach
  • Alan Wake
  • Mass Effect 2
  • Metro 2033
  • DeathSmiles
  • DarkStar One: Broken Alliance
  • Crackdown 2
  • MorphX
  • N3II: Ninety-Nine Nights
  • Supreme Commander 2
  • Tropico 3
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Sniper: Ghost Warrior
  • Risen

Microsoft delivered.

---

I can do that too. :P

  • Supreme Commander 2
  • Metro 2033
  • Tropico 3
  • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
  • Sniper: Ghost Warrior
  • Risen
  • Mass Effect 2

These aren't exclussives. Every single game I posted above areSony owned IP's from 1st & 2nd party developers. Nice try. :P

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#215 Casboof
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I don't even has a PS3 but yes they can play multi-plats while they wait for exclusives. Actually I probably enjoy multiplats more then most exclusives anyway.

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#216 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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If you are going to count plain sight then you may as well count Limbo, Joe Danger and Sports Champions. The graph also doesn't take into account games on some platforms that aren't on others, such as ME2 on PC/360 and Red Dead Redemption on consoles, which I'm assuming would factor into this giant pointless fanboy graph if you were really serious.

SPYDER0416
I don't have a separate deal for DD only titles for PC games, and as such, since they're so few and far between in regards to Gamespot reviewing them, It's pointless to make a PC DD only section. I was going to make a graph with XBLA, and PSN though. Not sure why I didn't end up doing it. Must of been lazy, and that graph is far from being fanboyish -- it's merely the reporting of facts.
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#217 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Stevo_the_Lem is at it again.

I do completely agree with what you're saying. Their strong start petered off rather pathetically and following their delay binge there's nothing left but the running joke that is GT5, Move stuff and HD collections. Roll on 2011.

Stevo_the_gamer

lol! You can't re-use your display picture. That's just soo.... lame. :P

The rules of forum decorum matter not to me. So there :x
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#218 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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The rules of forum decorum matter not to me. So there :xFloppy_Jim
Oh, typical rebel that you are. Why can't you just be a *insert South Park Video here that I'm too lazy to find* conformist. :P

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#219 JohnF111
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How do they count PC sales? Doesn't every PC sold count? That number has to be more than what that chart shows. Bread_or_Decide
If you read the post you'd realise hes talking about exclusives, don't jump to conclusion it just makes you look silly.
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#220 TheStarM4n
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"] "Last place" is a pretty ridiculous concept when there are 3 players in the game, wouldn't you say? It's not like being last place in the NFL or the Premier League or something. They aren't being relegated.

There's four players in the game: PC, PS3, Wii and Xbox 360.

OMG PC IS NOT A CONSOLE YOU NUB GET USED TO IT IDC IF IT HAS A BAJILLION GAMES THERES NOT EVEN A CYCLE YOU NOOB GTFO OF THE GAMESPOT CONSOLE FORUMS To be honest I actually wanted to say that but that's not part of my argument. Also I laugh how expensive a pc is and how the majority of people who own it do not even use it for games.. Or maybe it's the fact that even pc exclusives aren't exclusive maybe we should include a Mac as a console because of Mac only games. How about your fun filled mmos that don't get fun after you finish the grind. I also hear how a so called decent gaming rig could be 600. Are pc gamers on crack? What about monitors keyboards Moises headsets which can all reach in the 100 dollars range? I lost my cool because I AM TIRED OF PC GAMERS. Jump off a cliff cause as of right now I don't see the next AAAA game coming exclusively to pc. Maybe pc and Mac but not pc
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#221 AgentA-Mi6
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Until Gran Turismo 5 comes out, which according to the PS Blog is going to happen before the holidays are over, the Ps3 will be missing a meaningful exclusive for the second half of the year.

But thats all the system needs, really. That and the Multiplats.

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#222 AgentA-Mi6
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If we think about it, MAG isnt a super mega must have title, neither is Mod Nation Racers unlike Little Big Planet. Yakuza 3 is a great game going by the reviews but it has a small fanbase in western countries, same for Atelier series and 3D dot heroes was a low budget game with very little advertisement, although also good going by reviews. The only super mega awesome Must have PS3 exclusives for 2010 were supposed to be Heavy Rain, God Of War 3, Gran Turismo 5 and Little Big Planet 2. One of them wont make it and GT5 was delayed for a bit, throw in the multiplats and overall the year was a good one if GT5 makes it, more than good.
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#223 johny300
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I'm too lazy to read the OP lol.
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#224 timmy00
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:o

How did I just notice this topic?

Anyway since the thread is over 200 post I assume something went wrong.(or right :P)

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#225 XboximusPrime
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well, PS3 owners have always had the stigma of not playing alot of games. Dont think thats true though. Keep in mind that alot of peopel probaly bought a PS3 mainly for Bluray.

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#226 Vader993
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I'm too lazy to read the OP lol.johny300

me too:?

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#227 Raymundo_Manuel
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I like this thread because it shows the two best systems in a good light.


I hate every thread that bashes those two systems, so you're lucky this time Stevo. I have a few bags of cement ready just in case you feel like getting on my bad side.

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#228 Episode_Eve
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I came into this thread anticipating some interesting statistics and discussion. Unfortunately, the OP is basically saying that the first half of 2010 was much more impressive than the second half for the PS3 (exclusive game-wise). Well, I agree! Beyond that, what's the point? Nevermind...

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#229 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="johny300"]I'm too lazy to read the OP lol.Vader993

me too:?

But, it's not even long. :(

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#230 Vader993
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[QUOTE="Vader993"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]I'm too lazy to read the OP lol.Stevo_the_gamer

me too:?

But, it's not even long. :(

i read it now since im a nice guy:)

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#231 SoraX64
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I made a graph too. :)
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#232 Seabas989
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Well the Wii makes a nice W on that graph so does that mean it wins this year? :P

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#233 bobcheeseball
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The PS3 has been pretty average this year, but still better then the 360. The Wii has been doing pretty nicely keeping us entertained throughout the year and PC like usual wins. Next year however, PS3 looks pretty good.
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#234 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Or maybe it's the fact that even pc exclusives aren't exclusive maybe we should include a Mac as a console because of Mac only games. TheStarM4n
I won't dive at the rest, but for this, Mac is a personal computer.
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#235 XboximusPrime
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I actualy think 360 was better this year then PS3. Even though ME is now on PS3, that still came out, plus Alan wake, Halo Reach, and soon Fable 3. really teh only PS3 Exclusvie I cant think that was stellar off the top of my head would be GOW 3.

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#236 johny300
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Ps3 is better than the 360 this year and last year, wii beats them both since SMG2 is AAAAE.
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#237 XboximusPrime
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Ps3 is better than the 360 this year and last year, wii beats them both since SMG2 is AAAAE.johny300

Not srue why you think tis better this year. really, what has PS3 had that was great this year besides GOW 3 and maybe Heavy Rain? 360 had ME2, Halo, Alan Wake, and is going to have Fable 3, which is atleast going to be AA. It may just be me, but that lineup sounds better.

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#238 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="johny300"]Ps3 is better than the 360 this year and last year, wii beats them both since SMG2 is AAAAE.XboximusPrime

Not srue why you think tis better this year. really, what has PS3 had that was great this year besides GOW 3 and maybe Heavy Rain? 360 had ME2, Halo, Alan Wake, and is going to have Fable 3, which is atleast going to be AA. It may just be me, but that lineup sounds better.

2010 -

  • 92 - God of War III
  • 91 - MLB The Show 10
  • 87 - Heavy Rain
  • 82 - ModNation Racers
  • 80 - Yakuza 3
  • 77 - 3D Dot Game Heroes
  • 76 - Sports Champions
  • 76 - MAG

Compared to ..

  • 91 - Halo Reach
  • 83 - Alan Wake
  • ?? - Fable 3

That's pretty much why people believe the PS3 has had a better year than the 360.

(ME2 impact this year was already soften due to the fact it wasavailable else where, add in the fact it was announced to release for the PS3 further made it less significant for the 360)

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#239 djsifer01
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There has been a lack of exclusives for the PS3 since the beginning of the year, so what? Whats you point stevo? Its been abysmal for the 360 this year.
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#240 santoron
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As you can see above, I created a nice little graph using Excel showcasing the stats of this year's high quality game mix. All the information can be found in this spreadsheet. But look at the Playstation 3, look at the solid start and then va-roooom, into the ground. A few long months without any high quality exclusives. And aside from the Xbox 360, the Wii and PC are holding up great by consistently having a solid array of high quality exclusives. The Xbox 360 had an extremely bad start of the year (ME2 aside), and then hit the goose-egg yet again during the summer -- though a good thing the Xbox 360 has had this year is its offering with the Xbox Live Arcade, which is stellar as always.

Nevertheless, this question has been in my mind -- what exactly have PS3 owners been playing lately? Multiplatform games? The million-dollar question, folks.

Stevo_the_gamer

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I have Not been wasting time on a graph to somehow make 3 "high scoring exclusives" on the 360 seem preferable to a half dozen so far on the PS3...

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#241 santoron
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I made a graph too. :) SoraX64

Your graph accomplishes more than Stevo's did :lol:

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#242 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

As you can see above, I created a nice little graph using Excel showcasing the stats of this year's high quality game mix. All the information can be found in this spreadsheet. But look at the Playstation 3, look at the solid start and then va-roooom, into the ground. A few long months without any high quality exclusives. And aside from the Xbox 360, the Wii and PC are holding up great by consistently having a solid array of high quality exclusives. The Xbox 360 had an extremely bad start of the year (ME2 aside), and then hit the goose-egg yet again during the summer -- though a good thing the Xbox 360 has had this year is its offering with the Xbox Live Arcade, which is stellar as always.

Nevertheless, this question has been in my mind -- what exactly have PS3 owners been playing lately? Multiplatform games? The million-dollar question, folks.

santoron

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I have Not been wasting time on a graph to somehow make 3 "high scoring exclusives" on the 360 seem preferable to a half dozen so far on the PS3...

lol, amen. He goes to great lengths to make the PS3 look bad when its the 360 who has had a horrible year
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#243 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]Ps3 is better than the 360 this year and last year, wii beats them both since SMG2 is AAAAE.W1NGMAN-

Not srue why you think tis better this year. really, what has PS3 had that was great this year besides GOW 3 and maybe Heavy Rain? 360 had ME2, Halo, Alan Wake, and is going to have Fable 3, which is atleast going to be AA. It may just be me, but that lineup sounds better.

2010 -

  • 92 - God of War III
  • 91 - MLB The Show 10
  • 87 - Heavy Rain
  • 82 - ModNation Racers
  • 80 - Yakuza 3
  • 77 - 3D Dot Game Heroes
  • 76 - Sports Champions
  • 76 - MAG

Compared to ..

  • 91 - Halo Reach
  • 83 - Alan Wake
  • ?? - Fable 3

That's pretty much why people believe the PS3 has had a better year than the 360.

(ME2 impact this year was already soften due to the fact it wasavailable else where, add in the fact it was announced to release for the PS3 further made it less significant for the 360)

i can only speak personaly, but didnt MLB The Show 10,ModNation Racers,3D Dot Game Heroes,Sports Champions and MAG get middling reviews?

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#244 Slimmin360
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Oh really well how about you take a look at these charts from VGCHARTZ.com and then tell me which system took the nose dive in hardware sales because it sure wasn't PS3, not this year or last year....look under worldwide sales all the way to the right. http://www.vgchartz.com/hw_annual_summary.php Nice try though but i'll trust VGCHARTZ.com before anyone else.
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#245 gaming25
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lol @ saying the PS3 took a "massive" nosedive this season.The graph is misleading and paints a overdramatic statistic. There is no such thing as a .5 exclusive but the graph includes it and that makes it look bigger than it really is. So just lookat his chart in laments terms the 360 only has 1 exclusive coming out that he says is "huge" (even though I have no idea what exclusive he is referring to) so it isnt really that huge of a difference to compare with.

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#246 kyacat
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Sorry TC ps3 did not take massive nose dive this year and not going to next year either
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#247 Dead-Memories
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i'm still playing killzone 2 and demon's souls, and the next game i'm going to be playing is killzone 3. so yeah, the PS3 library isn't the hottest thing around these days, neither is the 360's but there are multiplats to remedy that.

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#248 fgjnfgh
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im not sure if your graph correct I mean at 0? how come

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#249 shinrabanshou
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Calm before the storm... :p

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#250 Nonstop-Madness
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I agree with you 100% ...... Sony shouldn't have pushed everything into 2011. I guess Sony is like 2010 = casual/Move, 2011 = Hardcore/AAAE's galore.