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#1 Twig978
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First and foremost, i am a cow and yes i own a PS3. But unlike 98.8345% of the cows, lemmings, sheeps, and hermits out there, i will admit that the console i like the best has its pros and cons like every other one. This post will have grammar mistakes, this isnt school, its a game forum.

I really dont think that having a built in Blu-Ray player will matter for games (and the PS3) this gen because well, the only console that has it isnt at the top or even near the top spot. Think about it, the 360 and PC still use DVDs for games and when devs make games, it more than likely to be multiplatform these days. That means that the devs will be less than likely to really take advantage of Blu-ray. They will try to make sure that they can fit it on a DVD9. Devs make games and port it over to the PS3 anyways. Devs will be less likely to take advantage of something that only one system has.

But i think that games this gen will be bigger and that they will be bigger than what a DVD9 can hold, but the devs arent going to ship 5-9 discs. They are going to keep it as low as possible because they dont want to ship a bunch of discs and a lot of packaging. They will use 2-3 discs and maybe even 4 in rare situations. Am i saying that the 360 not having Blu-Ray is holding games back? Yes i am.

But then you say, "but the exclusive games one the PS3 will". And i agree, yes they will. but as you can see, more exclusives are becoming multiplats and PS3 exclusives dont represent the entire industry. I think that the industry will try to make games as small as possible this gen. it would have mattered if Sony had kept the exclusives on the PS3 becuase you would have many many games (with big names) that would take advantage of it.

EDIT: To the fanboys who didnt even read my post, read the post in bold above. Im talking about non PS3 exclusive games. Geez.

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#2 S3P4eeever
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yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3
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yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3S3P4eeever
half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.
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#4 ReaperV7
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well it wont matter for 360 owners that for sure.
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#5 S3P4eeever
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another brainwashed who actually thinks dvd= BLU RAY
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3fguyhthfghfdsfs
half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

preference is blessed
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#7 2mrw
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it would only matter when developing a PS3 level games, MGS4. KZ2, U2 which not surprisengly exclusives,

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#8 DarkGamer007
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It's Blu-Ray, not Blue-Ray, please spell it right. Blu-Ray has uses for movies, for games it has yet to be seen in my opinion.

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call me crazy but i have a feeling R* is going to really "push" Blu-Ray while making AGENT.
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So what held back Heavenly Sword?
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#11 S3P4eeever
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another brainwashed who actually thinks dvd= BLU RAYS3P4eeever
this
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another brainwashed who actually thinks dvd= BLU RAYS3P4eeever
Another blind cow who has to make a fake account because they're to afraid of being flamed for idiotic ideas and blatant fanboyism. How do i think that DVDs = Blue ray discs? I dont. All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. They wont take advantage of something only one system has. They need to make it fit on a DVD9 and all of the systems have the 9GBs of capacity on the disc format.
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3fguyhthfghfdsfs
half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

can you back that up with some comparisons and examples. because its already lost in graphics and sound.
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]another brainwashed who actually thinks dvd= BLU RAYTwig978
Another blind cow who has to make a fake account because they're to afraid of being flamed for idiotic ideas and blatant fanboyism. How do i think that DVDs = Blue ray discs? I dont. All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. They wont take advantage of something only one system has. They need to make it fit on a DVD9 and all of the systems have the 9GBs of capacity on the disc format.

OH OK THEN, DVD> BLU RAY and its BLU not BLUE
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#15 Twig978
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So what held back Heavenly Sword?too_much_eslim
You didnt even read my post. The last paragraph talks about this. PS3 exclusives wont be held back but the thing is that PS3 exclusives dont represent the industry. The industry as a whole will try and accommodate as many systems as possible. Most games are multiplat, in fact the industry basically does multiplat games. And when you do this you cant take advantage of something that only one system has and the others dont. And even if the devs ship multiple discs, they will try and keep the discs as low as possible and the games as small as possible.
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]another brainwashed who actually thinks dvd= BLU RAYS3P4eeever
this

Lol cow why quote yourself?? Also, this thread is soon gonna be full of noobs arguing that blu-ray matters
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[QUOTE="Twig978"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]another brainwashed who actually thinks dvd= BLU RAYS3P4eeever
Another blind cow who has to make a fake account because they're to afraid of being flamed for idiotic ideas and blatant fanboyism. How do i think that DVDs = Blue ray discs? I dont. All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. They wont take advantage of something only one system has. They need to make it fit on a DVD9 and all of the systems have the 9GBs of capacity on the disc format.

OH OK THEN, DVD> BLU RAY and its BLU not BLUE

Wow your are really blind. Did i not say that Blu-Ray is better? Yes i did but your just to blind to see it. Heres the quote:

"All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. "

And your trying to correct my spelling error? It looks like you dont even know how to spell correctly.

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[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3Androvinus
half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

can you back that up with some comparisons and examples. because its already lost in graphics and sound.

nope half life 2 looks better than greyzone 2
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It matters for PS3 exclusives.

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[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="Androvinus"][QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"] half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

can you back that up with some comparisons and examples. because its already lost in graphics and sound.

nope half life 2 looks better than greyzone 2

and my pc has better sound
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"][QUOTE="Twig978"] Another blind cow who has to make a fake account because they're to afraid of being flamed for idiotic ideas and blatant fanboyism. How do i think that DVDs = Blue ray discs? I dont. All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. They wont take advantage of something only one system has. They need to make it fit on a DVD9 and all of the systems have the 9GBs of capacity on the disc format.Twig978

OH OK THEN, DVD> BLU RAY and its BLU not BLUE

Wow your are really blind. Did i not say that Blu-Ray is better? Yes i did but your just to blind to see it. Heres the quote:

"All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. "

And your trying to correct my spelling error? It looks like you dont even know how to spell correctly.

WUT? oh yes DVD> BLU RAY
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[QUOTE="Twig978"]

[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"] OH OK THEN, DVD> BLU RAY and its BLU not BLUES3P4eeever

Wow your are really blind. Did i not say that Blu-Ray is better? Yes i did but your just to blind to see it. Heres the quote:

"All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. "

And your trying to correct my spelling error? It looks like you dont even know how to spell correctly.

WUT? oh yes DVD> BLU RAY

dvd library>blu ray dvd>blu ray
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[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="Androvinus"][QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"] half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

can you back that up with some comparisons and examples. because its already lost in graphics and sound.

nope half life 2 looks better than greyzone 2

lol nice try. i guess you never played Killzone 2 . its ok. because the first thing you would know is that it has many more colours.....and you still havent answered the question
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lol how are blu ray disk scratch resistant? i dont believe that for a damn second.
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First and foremost, i am a cow and yes i own a PS3. But unlike 98.8345% of the cows, lemmings, sheeps, and hermits out there, i will admit that the console i like the best has its pros and cons like every other one. This post will have grammar mistakes, this isnt school, its a game forum.

I really dont think that having a built in Blu-Ray player will matter for games (and the PS3) this gen because well, the only console that has it isnt at the top or even near the top spot. Think about it, the 360 and PC still use DVDs for games and when devs make games, it more than likely to be multiplatform these days. That means that the devs will be less than likely to really take advantage of Blu-ray. They will try to make sure that they can fit it on a DVD9. Devs make games and port it over to the PS3 anyways. Devs will be less likely to take advantage of something that only one system has.

But i think that games this gen will be bigger and that they will be bigger than what a DVD9 can hold, but the devs arent going to ship 5-9 discs. They are going to keep it as low as possible because they dont want to ship a bunch of discs and a lot of packaging. They will use 2-3 discs and maybe even 4 in rare situations. Am i saying that the 360 not having Blu-Ray is holding games back? Yes i am.

But then you say, "but the exclusive games one the PS3 will". And i agree, yes they will. but as you can see, more exclusives are becoming multiplats and PS3 exclusives dont represent the entire industry. I think that the industry will try to make games as small as possible this gen. it would have mattered if Sony had kept the exclusives on the PS3 becuase you would have many many games (with big names) that would take advantage of it.

EDIT: To the fanboys who didnt even read my post, read the post in bold above. Im talking about non PS3 exclusive games. Geez.

Twig978

Good thing **Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Kojima Pro, Konami, Sony Computer Entertainment** came out before you posted this. Tough luck for FFXIII

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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"][QUOTE="Twig978"]

Wow your are really blind. Did i not say that Blu-Ray is better? Yes i did but your just to blind to see it. Heres the quote:

"All i'm saying is that even though Blue Ray is better, it wont matter for games because most devs wont take advantage of it. "

And your trying to correct my spelling error? It looks like you dont even know how to spell correctly.

fguyhthfghfdsfs

WUT? oh yes DVD> BLU RAY

dvd library>blu ray dvd>blu ray

because its been out longer. In terms of specs and overall quality, blu-ray is greater.

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[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"] WUT? oh yes DVD> BLU RAYTjeremiah1988

dvd library>blu ray dvd>blu ray

because its been out longer. In terms of specs and overall quality, blu-ray is greater.

just ignore the level 1 troll
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[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"] WUT? oh yes DVD> BLU RAYTjeremiah1988

dvd library>blu ray dvd>blu ray

because its been out longer. In terms of specs and overall quality, blu-ray is greater.

in storage capacity but not speed.
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[QUOTE="Twig978"]

First and foremost, i am a cow and yes i own a PS3. But unlike 98.8345% of the cows, lemmings, sheeps, and hermits out there, i will admit that the console i like the best has its pros and cons like every other one. This post will have grammar mistakes, this isnt school, its a game forum.

I really dont think that having a built in Blu-Ray player will matter for games (and the PS3) this gen because well, the only console that has it isnt at the top or even near the top spot. Think about it, the 360 and PC still use DVDs for games and when devs make games, it more than likely to be multiplatform these days. That means that the devs will be less than likely to really take advantage of Blu-ray. They will try to make sure that they can fit it on a DVD9. Devs make games and port it over to the PS3 anyways. Devs will be less likely to take advantage of something that only one system has.

But i think that games this gen will be bigger and that they will be bigger than what a DVD9 can hold, but the devs arent going to ship 5-9 discs. They are going to keep it as low as possible because they dont want to ship a bunch of discs and a lot of packaging. They will use 2-3 discs and maybe even 4 in rare situations. Am i saying that the 360 not having Blu-Ray is holding games back? Yes i am.

But then you say, "but the exclusive games one the PS3 will". And i agree, yes they will. but as you can see, more exclusives are becoming multiplats and PS3 exclusives dont represent the entire industry. I think that the industry will try to make games as small as possible this gen. it would have mattered if Sony had kept the exclusives on the PS3 becuase you would have many many games (with big names) that would take advantage of it.

EDIT: To the fanboys who didnt even read my post, read the post in bold above. Im talking about non PS3 exclusive games. Geez.

Bazooka_4ME

Good thing **Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Kojima Pro, Konami, Sony Computer Entertainment** came out before you posted this. Tough luck for FFXIII

Did you not read my post? Im not talking about exclusives, im talking about multiplats which most games are.

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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

[QUOTE="Twig978"]

First and foremost, i am a cow and yes i own a PS3. But unlike 98.8345% of the cows, lemmings, sheeps, and hermits out there, i will admit that the console i like the best has its pros and cons like every other one. This post will have grammar mistakes, this isnt school, its a game forum.

I really dont think that having a built in Blu-Ray player will matter for games (and the PS3) this gen because well, the only console that has it isnt at the top or even near the top spot. Think about it, the 360 and PC still use DVDs for games and when devs make games, it more than likely to be multiplatform these days. That means that the devs will be less than likely to really take advantage of Blu-ray. They will try to make sure that they can fit it on a DVD9. Devs make games and port it over to the PS3 anyways. Devs will be less likely to take advantage of something that only one system has.

But i think that games this gen will be bigger and that they will be bigger than what a DVD9 can hold, but the devs arent going to ship 5-9 discs. They are going to keep it as low as possible because they dont want to ship a bunch of discs and a lot of packaging. They will use 2-3 discs and maybe even 4 in rare situations. Am i saying that the 360 not having Blu-Ray is holding games back? Yes i am.

But then you say, "but the exclusive games one the PS3 will". And i agree, yes they will. but as you can see, more exclusives are becoming multiplats and PS3 exclusives dont represent the entire industry. I think that the industry will try to make games as small as possible this gen. it would have mattered if Sony had kept the exclusives on the PS3 becuase you would have many many games (with big names) that would take advantage of it.

EDIT: To the fanboys who didnt even read my post, read the post in bold above. Im talking about non PS3 exclusive games. Geez.

Twig978

Good thing **Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Kojima Pro, Konami, Sony Computer Entertainment** came out before you posted this. Tough luck for FFXIII

Did you not read my post? Im not talking about exclusives, im talking about multiplats which most games are.

But you obviously fail to see that Bluray as a format for gaming has already been useful for the ps3. Will it become the standard for gaming like DVD has? Possibly... I can't imagine the next xbox lacking an HD format. And games late in the ps3's life will make heavy use of the extra capacity offered by Bluray, just wait and see.
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3fguyhthfghfdsfs
half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

wait.. people actually liked half life death match??

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Rage on the 360 2 discs for Single & Multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]yes it will matter! thats why i bought a ps3VendettaRed07

half life 2 deathmatch>any ps3 game.

wait.. people actually liked half life death match??

lol the game has about as much players daily as battlefront 2
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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

Good thing **Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Kojima Pro, Konami, Sony Computer Entertainment** came out before you posted this. Tough luck for FFXIIITwig978

Did you not read my post? Im not talking about exclusives, im talking about multiplats which most games are.

I'll believe everything you post even if I don't have to read it IF you can tell me the reason why SE will not include a 2nd or 3rd language in PS3's version of FFXIII.

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#37 Twig978
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[QUOTE="Twig978"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]Good thing **Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Kojima Pro, Konami, Sony Computer Entertainment** came out before you posted this. Tough luck for FFXIIITheDuffman26

Did you not read my post? Im not talking about exclusives, im talking about multiplats which most games are.

But you obviously fail to see that Bluray as a format for gaming has already been useful for the ps3. Will it become the standard for gaming like DVD has? Possibly... I can't imagine the next xbox lacking an HD format. And games late in the ps3's life will make heavy use of the extra capacity offered by Bluray, just wait and see.

Yes the format has been useful for PS3 exclusive games and yes the next gen Xbox will have an HD format but I'm talking about right now. Will the exclusive PS3 games later on in it's life make heavy use of it? Yes. I'm talking about multiplats. Right now the PS3 isn't what the PS2 was. It's now behind the 360 which has a bigger install base. Now when devs look at making a game, they will more than likely make it multiplat and that it "makes sense" for all the platforms that thery're making it on. And putting out 5+ DVD9s just isn't viable. The industry is making mainly multiplat games, and when you make such a game you must make it so that it "makes sense" for all the platforms it will be on. The industry won't take advantage of something that only one console has and that such a console is not dominant.
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^ That's exactly why the ps3 will outlast the 360. Within 5 years devs are going to need A LOT of space for their games and the 360 will be out of luck.
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[QUOTE="Twig978"][QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

Good thing **Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Kojima Pro, Konami, Sony Computer Entertainment** came out before you posted this. Tough luck for FFXIIIBazooka_4ME

Did you not read my post? Im not talking about exclusives, im talking about multiplats which most games are.

I'll believe everything you post even if I don't have to read it IF you can tell me the reason why SE will not include a 2nd or 3rd language in PS3's version of FFXIII.

Yup you just proved my point. Even though the PS3 has Blu-Ray, it won't matter (unless the game is an exclusive). Most games are multiplats such as FFXIII and the devs just won't take advantage of the PS3's Blu-Ray. The devs want to be "fair" to both platforms and sure, the devs can easily just put the audio tracks (and take advantage of Blu-Ray) on but when we talk about other content (gameplay stuff) they can't just put that on. They can't put gameplay element on one and not the other. The devs can't just easily put it on then. Then they won't be able to take advantage of Blu-Ray.
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#40 Twig978
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]^ That's exactly why the ps3 will outlast the 360. Within 5 years devs are going to need A LOT of space for their games and the 360 will be out of luck.

In five years we will either have the next gen emerging or be super close to it.
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#41 envybianchi
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Your (OP) logic is flawed. Why? The article below smacks you in the face that's why.

Contrary to what Square Enix would have us believe: FFXIII PS3 is COMPROMISED

Yesterday, we covered an interview with Final Fantasy XIII(XBOX 360, Playstation 3) producer, Yoshinori Kitase, which had him reassuring fans that FFXIII going multiplatform did not compromise design at all. Today, we have here Kitase talking to GameTrailers, and admitting that the PS3 version has been indeed compromised to "keep both versions of the game identical."

Specifically, the PS3 version will not have the Japanese voices with English subtitles because, well, it can't fit on the Xbox 360 and since they want to be "fair" to both platforms, then they won't put it on the PS3 as well - regardless if it can afford to have the Japanese audio track or not. Which it totally can.

Not only that, but the pacing of the PS3 version will also be affected because of the Xbox 360 version. Analyzed PS3 Center:

When Final Fantasy moved to PlayStation 2, it only ever appeared on 1 DVD. This meant that unlike previous iterations on the original PlayStation, every area within the game could technically be open at any time. In previous games, some areas appeared on some discs, and were closed off in others. The same can even be said for games such as Lost Odyssey on the Xbox 360, due to the space constraints of the DVD, the majority of side-quests appeared on the final disc. Final Fantasy XIII will be affected in the same way.

This is not a huge problem if an RPG is 360 exclusive or developed for Xbox 360 first, but if it is meant to be developed on the PS3 first and take advantage of ALL its features, then it is a problem.

If the game was on a single Blu-Ray disc, it would allow the player to explore many areas, and many side-quests at any time throughout the game. However, due to the DVD limitations of the Xbox 360, the game will be cut up, and many areas you visit at the beginning of the game will most likely not be available towards the end of the game. This may be one of the main reasons that many PS3 fans are looking forward to Final Fantasy Vs XIII more than Final Fantasy XIII, because Versus represents an upgrade in scale whereas Final Fantasy XIII is actually a downgrade from earlier Final Fantasy games in that sense.


Sounds to me like that's quite a compromise right there, Mr. Kitase.

End article.

Edit- opps! I forgot to copy & paste the link for the article. Just in case someone wanted to see where it is from.

http://xbox360.qj.net/Contrary-to-what-Square-Enix-would-have-us-believe-FFXIII-PS3-IS-compromised/pg/49/aid/134299

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#42 TheDuffman26
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[QUOTE="Twig978"][QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]^ That's exactly why the ps3 will outlast the 360. Within 5 years devs are going to need A LOT of space for their games and the 360 will be out of luck.

In five years we will either have the next gen emerging or be super close to it.

The ps3 user base will also be bigger than both microsoft and nintendo, and devs will be developing plenty of bluray games. That's my prediction for the next 5 years atleast.
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#43 spike6566
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your right tc, it doesnt matter to 360 owners. because they dont get to play MGS4, KZ2 or U2 ;)
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#44 Twig978
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Your (OP) logic is flawed. Why? The article below smacks you in the face that's why. envybianchi
Actually, you just proved my point. As you can see, it doesn't matter that the PS3 has Blu-Ray (unless the game is exclusive). And most games are multiplats such as FFXIII
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#45 Twig978
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your right tc, it doesnt matter to 360 owners. because they dont get to play MGS4, KZ2 or U2 ;)spike6566
It doesn't matter in the big picture with more and more games going multiplat (to the 360). And yup, I love those games. I have Killzone 2 (love the online), MGS4, and am looking forward to U2.
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#46 Bazooka_4ME
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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

[QUOTE="Twig978"]

Did you not read my post? Im not talking about exclusives, im talking about multiplats which most games are.

Twig978

I'll believe everything you post even if I don't have to read it IF you can tell me the reason why SE will not include a 2nd or 3rd language in PS3's version of FFXIII.

Yup you just proved my point. Even though the PS3 has Blu-Ray, it won't matter (unless the game is an exclusive). Most games are multiplats such as FFXIII and the devs just won't take advantage of the PS3's Blu-Ray. The devs want to be "fair" to both platforms and sure, the devs can easily just put the audio tracks (and take advantage of Blu-Ray) on but when we talk about other content (gameplay stuff) they can't just put that on. They can't put gameplay element on one and not the other. The devs can't just easily put it on then. Then they won't be able to take advantage of Blu-Ray.

Sorry dude but you didn't get the point since you missed the question. From what you just posted, you're saying I should just throw my 7.1 surround away because they're not necessary? I guess if blu-ray wasn't necessary according to YOUR logic then I guess DVDs aren't necessary as well, correct?
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#47 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]So what held back Heavenly Sword?Twig978
You didnt even read my post. The last paragraph talks about this. PS3 exclusives wont be held back but the thing is that PS3 exclusives dont represent the industry. The industry as a whole will try and accommodate as many systems as possible. Most games are multiplat, in fact the industry basically does multiplat games. And when you do this you cant take advantage of something that only one system has and the others dont. And even if the devs ship multiple discs, they will try and keep the discs as low as possible and the games as small as possible.

Um I read every bit of your post. What I was saying is that even some PS3 exclusives don't take advantage of blu-ray. Believe it or not the only games that really get affected by disc space is JRPGs. There are only a small amount of games that use multiple discs on the 360. Having the space is great when it is needed, but it is not needed 95% the time.
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#48 Twig978
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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] has Blu-Ray, it won't matter (unless the game is an exclusive). Most games are multiplats such as FFXIII and the devs just won't take advantage of the PS3's Blu-Ray. The devs want to be "fair" to both platforms and sure, the devs can easily just put the audio tracks (and take advantage of Blu-Ray) on but when we talk about other content (gameplay stuff) they can't just put that on. They can't put gameplay element on one and not the other. The devs can't just easily put it on then. Then they won't be able to take advantage of Blu-Ray. Sorry dude but you didn't get the point since you missed the question. From what you just posted, you're saying I should just throw my 7.1 surround away because they're not necessary? I guess if blu-ray wasn't necessary according to YOUR logic then I guess DVDs aren't necessary as well, correct?

No, no, no. I'm saying that Blu-Ray won't matter because (most) devs won't tale advantage of it. I'm not saying that they can't put good audio or visuals in a game but that Blu-Ray won't matter because it won't b taken advantage of. I'm not saying you can't put 7.1 surround sound in a game that doesn't use Blu-Ray. And when did I say DVDs aren't necessary?
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#49 Twig978
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[QUOTE="Twig978"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]So what held back Heavenly Sword?too_much_eslim
You didnt even read my post. The last paragraph talks about this. PS3 exclusives wont be held back but the thing is that PS3 exclusives dont represent the industry. The industry as a whole will try and accommodate as many systems as possible. Most games are multiplat, in fact the industry basically does multiplat games. And when you do this you cant take advantage of something that only one system has and the others dont. And even if the devs ship multiple discs, they will try and keep the discs as low as possible and the games as small as possible.

Um I read every bit of your post. What I was saying is that even some PS3 exclusives don't take advantage of blu-ray. Believe it or not the only games that really get affected by disc space is JRPGs. There are only a small amount of games that use multiple discs on the 360. Having the space is great when it is needed, but it is not needed 95% the time.

I think that we are just on the edge of having a bunch of nonRPG games (even non PS3) that use more data than a DVD9 but that's just me. And if you really look at some PS3 games, they certainly take advantage of it and I think that more PS3 exclusive games such as this will follow. The deva are just begining to get use to the hardware. Just look at the games at the end of the PS2's life cycle. But if you want to say that even some PS3 games don't take advantage of Blu-Ray then I guess that you could say that it Blu-Ray doesn't matter from that view point.
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#50 TheDuffman26
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Twig978"] You didnt even read my post. The last paragraph talks about this. PS3 exclusives wont be held back but the thing is that PS3 exclusives dont represent the industry. The industry as a whole will try and accommodate as many systems as possible. Most games are multiplat, in fact the industry basically does multiplat games. And when you do this you cant take advantage of something that only one system has and the others dont. And even if the devs ship multiple discs, they will try and keep the discs as low as possible and the games as small as possible.Twig978
Um I read every bit of your post. What I was saying is that even some PS3 exclusives don't take advantage of blu-ray. Believe it or not the only games that really get affected by disc space is JRPGs. There are only a small amount of games that use multiple discs on the 360. Having the space is great when it is needed, but it is not needed 95% the time.

I think that we are just on the edge of having a bunch of nonRPG games (even non PS3) that use more data than a DVD9 but that's just me. And if you really look at some PS3 games, they certainly take advantage of it and I think that more PS3 exclusive games such as this will follow. The deva are just begining to get use to the hardware. Just look at the games at the end of the PS2's life cycle. But if you want to say that even some PS3 games don't take advantage of Blu-Ray then I guess that you could say that it Blu-Ray doesn't matter from that view point.

We can both agree that Devs are just starting to take advantage of bluray, but the ps3 has 7 more years left in it. It's safe to say that only more games will be taking advantage of bluray during that time. I also predict that some of the best games during the next 7 years will take full advantage of bluray. So to say that bluray doesn't matter this gen is not really true.