The PS3's Blu-Ray format wont really matter for games this gen.

Lets not get confused with upscaled DVDs with orignal DVDs. They're different. Or this is true. "My PS2 games (DVD) = 360 games (DVD), Woot!" So DVD-1 1.5GB...... DVD-9 7.95GB......HD DVD 15 or 30GB......Blu-ray 25 or 50GB

More content space wont matter for games this gen.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Twig978"] You didnt even read my post. The last paragraph talks about this. PS3 exclusives wont be held back but the thing is that PS3 exclusives dont represent the industry. The industry as a whole will try and accommodate as many systems as possible. Most games are multiplat, in fact the industry basically does multiplat games. And when you do this you cant take advantage of something that only one system has and the others dont. And even if the devs ship multiple discs, they will try and keep the discs as low as possible and the games as small as possible.Twig978

well it wont matter for 360 owners that for sure. ReaperV7

Your (OP) logic is flawed. Why? The article below smacks you in the face that's why.

Contrary to what Square Enix would have us believe: FFXIII PS3 is COMPROMISED

Edit- opps! I forgot to copy & paste the link for the article. Just in case someone wanted to see where it is from.

http://xbox360.qj.net/Contrary-to-what-Square-Enix-would-have-us-believe-FFXIII-PS3-IS-compromised/pg/49/aid/134299

envybianchi

[QUOTE="Twig978"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Um I read every bit of your post. What I was saying is that even some PS3 exclusives don't take advantage of blu-ray. Believe it or not the only games that really get affected by disc space is JRPGs. There are only a small amount of games that use multiple discs on the 360. Having the space is great when it is needed, but it is not needed 95% the time.TheDuffman26

PS3 devs will take advantage of Blu-Ray big time in the future (as many are now). But the industry won't in general as most games are mulitplat; I really feel like the 360 having only DVD9 will hold back this gen in the future

What else is there thats better or just the same as Blu-ray?
Not everyone can download games.

When is the super 100gb discs coming out?

I must agree. Still it's useful to have for the future when games get even bigger.

Ok so the point of this thread was that Blu Ray will make a difference for Sony exlcusive games, but for multiplat games it won't make a difference since the game can only have 9 GB

This has been known about since 2006 so what was the point in making a topic about this? Some kind of revelation you just came up with that 99% of the rest of the people on this forum already know.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]So what held back Heavenly Sword?Twig978

Ok so the point of this thread was that Blu Ray will make a difference for Sony exlcusive games, but for multiplat games it won't make a difference since the game can only have 9 GB

This has been known about since 2006 so what was the point in making a topic about this? Some kind of revelation you just came up with that 99% of the rest of the people on this forum already know.

CajunShooter

...so your excuse to why game won't be first developed for on the PS3 is because of "packaging" multiple disks? ...:| I'm sure that's not one of the top reasons on the list: "why not to make games with more than one disk."

"360 having more user base" theory is why the games are devloped on the 360 first. We will see if this is correct when and if the PS3 passes the 360 user base. Probably not thanks to DLC. And probably not because, it's not true.

[QUOTE="envybianchi"]

Your (OP) logic is flawed. Why? The article below smacks you in the face that's why.

Contrary to what Square Enix would have us believe: FFXIII PS3 is COMPROMISED

Edit- opps! I forgot to copy & paste the link for the article. Just in case someone wanted to see where it is from.

http://xbox360.qj.net/Contrary-to-what-Square-Enix-would-have-us-believe-FFXIII-PS3-IS-compromised/pg/49/aid/134299

LOXO7

Sorry dude...... I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it is what it is. I knew somehow the game would be affected in some way but my "friend" said it was the fanboy in me that was thinking that way. I'm glad my "hunch" wasn't wrong. I know I'm not a crazy PS3 fanboy because I enjoy my Nintendo & PC games plus I don't even have all the exclusives for the PS3 or play it as much as the other 2 consoles mentioned. I'm still gonna get FFXIII on 1st day but I'm not gonna have any high expectations of it. Regardless, I know I'm gonna enjoy it.

TC is right, the vast majority of games this generation are multiplats, therefore developers want to make sure their games run on both systems. If it doesn't fit on DVD9, it won't be put into the game. Only Sony exclusives will even begin to take advantage of the massive storage space (but so far most of what we're seeing is uncompressed audio).

Sure it does, and will continue.

TC wants to downplay Exclusives, but when you have as many Developers as Sony, that's gonna be a significant number of titles coming your way without any chance of going multiplat, even before you talk about any 3rd party exclusives. And all of those games get to focus on making a game complete and not worrying how to fit it on the disc as much.

I also think in the multiplat arena you'll see more and more larger than 1 DVD games as we get late into this (heavily considered to be longer than normal) console cycle. That isn't a huge disadvantage for the 360, because you could either switch a disc at some point, or just install to the increasingly large HDD. On the PS3, you may not (but might)need to bother with an install, and you certainly won't need to change a disc.

I guess since the 360 is more than capable of addressing the challenge of handling an increasing number of multi-disc games, I could agree with TC that the lack of BluRay on the 360 certainly isn't gonna be a deal breaker for any game. But it's a nice feature nonetheless.