The PS4 Hardware Advantage

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#1 PinkiePirate
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And that's not even all of it. On paper, the X1 and PS4 may look similar, but the AMD APU in the PS4 was heavily modified. 

The PS4 also has a dedicated video encoder chip. When you stream your gameplay, you will take no hit in performance. 

I'm tired of seeing people here (and even professional journalists) continue to state that the difference between the X1 and PS4 is small. That is far from the truth. The GPUs alone have a bigger performance difference than last gen's PS3 and Xbox 360. And if we are talking memory, the modifications in the APU make up for the GDDR5 latency. You get the best of both worlds with the PS4's hardware.

"Worried about GDDR5 latencies? Don't be. Large cache, very capable bus, shortcuts and clever data transferring between CPU and GPU make that a non-issue."

Sources: 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox-one-hardware-compared-to-playstation-4/3

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php?page=2

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/154924-secrets-of-the-ps4-heavily-modified-radeon-supercharged-apu-design

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=533904

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532077

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#2 finalstar2007
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Already pre-ordered :oops:

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#3 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Great thread, PS4 will undoubtedly be much better than Xbox One

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But GameSpot said they are verrrrry close... http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29411274/gamespot-ps4-and-xbone-power-difference-closer-than-ps3-and-360 [spoiler] trollololololol lololol lololol [/spoiler]
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OMG, my raging boner!

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Unless developers make special edition PS4 games that utilize it's hardware advantages which is highly unlikely for multiplatform games, then it's not gonna really matter. Even the PS3 exclusives had better graphics but that really didn't make that much of an impact of people choosing the 360 instead.

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Thank lord Mark Cerny.
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Ouch...

Two generations of inferior multiplats and exclusives. Must suck being a lemming :(

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#11 Truth_Hurts_U
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Yeah 30% is not small that is like a graphics card generation on PC.

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Apparently it's completely new to a lot of people since they won't stop spewing the same BS.
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Hardware specs mean nothing if a console can produce games that look better than it's specs suggest like the gamecube and the WiiU to an extent.

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Unless developers make special edition PS4 games that utilize it's hardware advantages which is highly unlikely for multiplatform games, then it's not gonna really matter. Even the PS3 exclusives had better graphics but that really didn't make that much of an impact of people choosing the 360 instead.

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Well, hopefully they do what the did this gen. Develop games for PS4 and if need be, make the adjustments for X1.
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There isn't one. Quantum Break proves that. Forza 5 vs Drive Club proves that. Stop being so delusional.
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lol console peasants talking about hardware if a hermit comes here and posts how his pc is 4x more powerful then a ps4 peasants be like "we dont care about it nerrrd" if a peasant finds out that ps4 gpu is only 50% faster then xbox one, peasants be like HELL YEAH IM GETTIN A PS4 Glory be to GabeN our leader of the PC master race
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There isn't one. Quantum Break proves that. Forza 5 vs Drive Club proves that. Stop being so delusional. ShoulderOfOrion
lmao, using a pc with Nvidia graphics card. destroyed like the X1.
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Unless developers make special edition PS4 games that utilize it's hardware advantages which is highly unlikely for multiplatform games, then it's not gonna really matter. Even the PS3 exclusives had better graphics but that really didn't make that much of an impact of people choosing the 360 instead.

whitetiger3521
that's not the same as ps3 at first ps3 was hard to work with even though now most 3rd party studios start to make games on it first GTAV,Lord of shadows 2,Batman etc all was demoed on ps3 looking at this year Bioshock,metro,tomb raider etc all are better on ps3 ps4 now is very dev friendly with more power than xbox1 no excuse now for 3rd party devs
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Unless developers make special edition PS4 games that utilize it's hardware advantages which is highly unlikely for multiplatform games, then it's not gonna really matter. Even the PS3 exclusives had better graphics but that really didn't make that much of an impact of people choosing the 360 instead.

whitetiger3521
This is nothing like last gen. Not even remotely close. This is a complete turn around for Sony in hardware.
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Already pre-ordered :oops:

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Lovely stuff, now let's see how exclusives takes advantage of all of that.

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Ouch...

Two generations of inferior multiplats and exclusives. Must suck being a lemming :(

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The PC has better multiplats than both consoles :cool:
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Pfff all is irrelevant to the glorious PC gaming master race anyway

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Hardware specs mean nothing if a console can produce games that look better than it's specs suggest like the gamecube and the WiiU to an extent.

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The Gamecube had the best specs of 6th gen IMO. It was a lot faster than both the PS2 and Xbox. Not to mention, games like Starfox Adventures, RE4, FF-Crystal Chronicles and Metroid Prime had better effects than the majority of Xbox's library. The WiiU's like a beefed up Gamecube in HD. It's very fast as well.
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Already pre-ordered :oops:

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Me too. You will have to join our drive club...awww yeahhh
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Old.PinkiePirate
Apparently it's completely new to a lot of people since they won't stop spewing the same BS.

For console plebs that have been gaming on 7-8 year old outdated hardware, im sure it does seem new to them.

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Pfff all is irrelevant to the glorious PC gaming master race anyway

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pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz
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[QUOTE="Sharp-Shooter89"]lol console peasants talking about hardware if a hermit comes here and posts how his pc is 4x more powerful then a ps4 peasants be like "we dont care about it nerrrd" if a peasant finds out that ps4 gpu is only 50% faster then xbox one, peasants be like HELL YEAH IM GETTIN A PS4 Glory be to GabeN our leader of the PC master race

No one cares Hermit. Go buy Gabe a cheeseburger.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Pfff all is irrelevant to the glorious PC gaming master race anyway

Heil68

pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz

What if we want to go back to Arma3, probably what I'll do...

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Pfff all is irrelevant to the glorious PC gaming master race anyway

Heil68

pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz

Nah, I'm gonna play The Witcher 2 with the new full combat rebalance mod 

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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Pfff all is irrelevant to the glorious PC gaming master race anyway

seanmcloughlin

pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz

Nah, I'm gonna play The Witcher 2 with the new full combat rebalance mod 

Burn.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Pfff all is irrelevant to the glorious PC gaming master race anyway

seanmcloughlin

pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz

Nah, I'm gonna play The Witcher 2 with the new full combat rebalance mod


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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Old.Rage010101

Apparently it's completely new to a lot of people since they won't stop spewing the same BS.

For console plebs that have been gaming on 7-8 year old outdated hardware, im sure it does seem new to them.


So have Hermits apparently, 99% have low spec machines

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Davekeeh

Is that your response, for not having a sufficient gaming PC?

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz Davekeeh

Nah, I'm gonna play The Witcher 2 with the new full combat rebalance mod


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You look tired there my friend.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] pffttt, go back to your MMOs and Facebook games..lolz Davekeeh

Nah, I'm gonna play The Witcher 2 with the new full combat rebalance mod


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Now you know how we all feel every time we see one of your posts, or even your username pop up

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

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lundy86_4

Is that your response, for not having a sufficient gaming PC?

He has a 690. Shits weird yo.
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] Apparently it's completely new to a lot of people since they won't stop spewing the same BS.Davekeeh

For console plebs that have been gaming on 7-8 year old outdated hardware, im sure it does seem new to them.


So have Hermits apparently, 99% have low spec machines

I love pulling percentages out of my ass too ;) 

well... 40% of the time anyway I do

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#40 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

.

lundy86_4

Is that your response, for not having a sufficient gaming PC?


Oh not this again LOL

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He has a 690. Shits weird yo.clyde46

Proven? Shit would be weird.

Hell, that being said, hardware doesn't mean shit, if you don't use it.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"] He has a 690. Shits weird yo.lundy86_4

Proven? Shit would be weird.

Indeed, he may be a really annoying troll but he's not lying when he says he has a good PC.
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Nah, I'm gonna play The Witcher 2 with the new full combat rebalance mod

seanmcloughlin


.

Now you know how we all feel every time we see one of your posts, or even your username pop up

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[QUOTE="clyde46"] He has a 690. Shits weird yo.lundy86_4

Proven? Shit would be weird.

Hell, that being said, hardware doesn't mean shit, if you don't use it.

It's an Alienware
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
.

Davekeeh

Now you know how we all feel every time we see one of your posts, or even your username pop up

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Yeah that's whassup!! 

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Davekeeh, you've got a GTX 690 and you still prefer inferior gaming devices.

You must make terrible decisions in your life on a regular basis. :lol:

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#47 lundy86_4
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Indeed, he may be a really annoying troll but he's not lying when he says he has a good PC. clyde46

Shocked.

It's an AlienwareMonsieurX

Ewwww...

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#48 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] He has a 690. Shits weird yo.MonsieurX

Proven? Shit would be weird.

Hell, that being said, hardware doesn't mean shit, if you don't use it.

It's an Alienware


Alienware is for the elite

Custom build is for the poor

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#49 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Davekeeh, you've got a GTX 690 and you still prefer inferior gaming devices.

You must make terrible decisions in your life on a regular basis. :lol:

Cyberdot


To me it's not about hardware, it's about games, I have never seen amazing quality games like The Last of Us on a PC platform.

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#50 lundy86_4
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To me it's not about hardware, it's about games, I have never seen amazing quality games like The Last of Us on a PC platform.

Davekeeh

Hell, even Out of the Park Baseball scored higher... 96.