The "how is Sackboy an ICON" thread.

I think people who tout Sackboy as a gaming ICON should have a thread to argue their case, so here it is.

Discuss.

The game has been out what... a month? Icons take years, if not decades even to form in the minds of people.foxhound_fox

The game has been out what... a month? Icons take years, if not decades even to form in the minds of people.foxhound_fox

Masterchief was an icon within a year of Halo's release...Toriko42

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The game has been out what... a month? Icons take years, if not decades even to form in the minds of people.II_Seraphim_II

I'll second this.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Masterchief was an icon within a year of Halo's release...foxhound_fox

Try showing Sackboy to the general people on the streets and see if they know him at all. All you will prolly get is " Ahhh he is cute but what is it" Maybe he can be considered one when he starts having a cartoon, Movie, mass amounts of toys, clothing, books and so onrybe1025

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Try showing Sackboy to the general people on the streets and see if they know him at all. All you will prolly get is " Ahhh he is cute but what is it" Maybe he can be considered one when he starts having a cartoon, Movie, mass amounts of toys, clothing, books and so onJLF1

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The game has been out what... a month? Icons take years, if not decades even to form in the minds of people.Blackbond

I'll second this.

I think people who tout Sackboy as a gaming ICON should have a thread to argue their case, so here it is.

Discuss.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I just got teleported in here, what the heck!!! :)

It took me Years to become an ICON, I can't imagine Sacky has had enough time.

To a generation of 8-25 year old men he is the gaming icon of the past two generations without a doubt. I don't think sales determine icon status but rather just the ability to be recognized.Toriko42

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] what he said.PandaBear86

I'll second this.

The Fourth Power, Quatre-ed if you will.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]Masterchief was an icon within a year of Halo's release...Toriko42

[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Try showing Sackboy to the general people on the streets and see if they know him at all. All you will prolly get is " Ahhh he is cute but what is it" Maybe he can be considered one when he starts having a cartoon, Movie, mass amounts of toys, clothing, books and so onToriko42

They are not even close.JLF1

That is completely subjective, and to me he is. LBP is a great Platformer, and Sackboy is awesome.WalterPaladines

First of all, this is not a thread on "awesomeness."

Second of all, if everyone can be an ICON, why use the word ICON? If everybody's an icon, nobody's an icon.

Since it's all subjective, I'm going to go ahead and say the NPC's in GTAIV are icons.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]They are not even close.foxhound_fox

The game has been out what... a month? Icons take years, if not decades even to form in the minds of people.foxhound_fox

Yeah this :P

I notice that the people voting yes in the poll seem to be hiding from us. Why don't you come out an explain your vote?Tragic_Kingdom7

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]I notice that the people voting yes in the poll seem to be hiding from us. Why don't you come out an explain your vote?JLF1

That's certainly a different way to look at it. I wouldn't agree that that constitutes ICON status, but that is a way to start an argument atleast.

My argument against that would be that it opens the door for countless whacky justifications. I could say that the GTAIV NPC's are a building block of Liberty City and are thus iconic.

Is that an argument? Yes. Is it compelling? No.

So, there are definitely arguments out there, but they may not be good ones. I don't think the whole "icon of what gaming is about" is a good argument simply because I can take another character and come up with more concrete (less abstract) reasons that character is an icon. With Mario, I don't have to use my own abstract notions to prove his icon status.

Pikachu and Sonic I can see but I don't know about Link (Link is on Master Chief Level or slightly higher IMO), anyway Mario is still the biggest gaming icon ever.

Pikachu is a huge icon but I don't really know if he is really a "gaming icon". When people think Pokemon they often don't think gaming.JLF1

[QUOTE="JLF1"]They are not even close.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="JLF1"]

Only Mario is at that level.JLF1

Link is pretty close

If Sackboy becomes the new mascot of Sony then maybe in another 5-10 years. But you don't become a gaming icon in a month. Hell, LBP wasn't that huge of the game so he doesn't even have that much notoriety.

The only icons that come to mind are:
Mario
Pikachu
Sonic

And to a Smaller Scale:
Link
Donkey Kong
Pacman

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Masterchief was an icon within a year of Halo's release...foxhound_fox

that's ok M$ can just release the same halo game over and over like how Nintendo does with Mario

Mario is an icon of rehashes and lazy thinking

It depends on how high or recognizeable you consider him, and his iconic status.

1. What is Sackboy associated to for gamers?

2. What is Sackboy associated with for people who don't play games?

3. What is Sackboy's definition? Mario is "Nintendo" or "Gaming" and Pikachu is "Pokemon" to many. Sackboy is... "Sony?" or what...?

4. Sackboy is recognized or affiliated to what? How many people out of gaming really know Sackboy or Sackgirl? Sure they are cute and cuddily, but can you pick anyone off the streets and ask them "Do you like sackboy?" or anything of that sort? Also who does Sackboy define, or what?

I think Sackboy could be iconic, if he's more exposed and had more time. He's hardly even an "instant" classic that someone like Master Cheif obtained. Most males or should I say members of gaming in the past two generations know Master Cheif almost. Hell my dad and mom who don't play Halo know who Master Cheif is. However my parents don't know Sackboy at all. I could of course mention Mario or Pikachu and they'd know. Find someone on this world who doesn't, they are that famous. They aren't just icons of Nintendo or Pokemon, but gaming and more.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]Masterchief was an icon within a year of Halo's release...rr2Real

that's ok M$ can just release the same halo game over and over like how Nintendo does with Mario

Mario is an icon of rehashes and lazy thinking

[QUOTE="rr2Real"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Compared to a real icon like Mario, Master Chief is nothing. Master Chief is just popular... he really isn't an icon... yet. He needs to sell a couple hundred million more games.yoshi_64

that's ok M$ can just release the same halo game over and over like how Nintendo does with Mario

Mario is an icon of rehashes and lazy thinking

so what if it won kiddy game of the year

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="rr2Real"]

that's ok M$ can just release the same halo game over and over like how Nintendo does with Mario

Mario is an icon of rehashes and lazy thinking

rr2Real

so what if it won kiddy game of the year

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="rr2Real"]

that's ok M$ can just release the same halo game over and over like how Nintendo does with Mario

Mario is an icon of rehashes and lazy thinking

rr2Real

so what if it won kiddy game of the year

It won GOTY not kiddy GOTY. Denial is strong to even consider making up your own GOTY catagory.