the real differences between PS4 and Xbox One performance

So it seems that the PlayStation 4 is currently around 50 per cent faster than the Xbox One.

Multiple high-level game development sources have described the difference in performance between the consoles as significant and obvious.

Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster.

Microsoft is aware of the problem and, having recently upped the clock speed of Xbox One, is working hard to close the gap on PS4, though one developer we spoke to downplayed the move. The clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much, he said. Of course, something is better than nothing.

full: http://www.edge-online.com/news/power-struggle-the-real-differences-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-performance/

Should have put Edge in the title.

LOL@lems

'' One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but itll run at 20-something FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. Xbox One is weaker and its a pain to use its ESRAM, concluded one developer.''

So it seems that the PlayStation 4 is currently around 50 per cent faster than the Xbox One.

Multiple high-level game development sources have described the difference in performance between the consoles as significant and obvious.

Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster.

Microsoft is aware of the problem and, having recently upped the clock speed of Xbox One, is working hard to close the gap on PS4, though one developer we spoke to downplayed the move. The clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much, he said. Of course, something is better than nothing.

full: http://www.edge-online.com/news/power-struggle-the-real-differences-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-performance/

ramonnl

To me the huge difference between the two is $100. The most powerful console of a generation does not win but the less expensive one usually does. As always it is going to come around to optimization and which platform is lead for multi-plats. If PS4 gets gimped multi's then MS wins, if Xbone gets gimped multi's because PS4 is lead and games are missing features while being converted to Xbone then Sony wins. Only time will tell.

Checkmate lems, checkmate!

Checkmate lems, checkmate!

-Damien-

Major damage control incoming in 3..2..1

[QUOTE="ramonnl"]

So it seems that the PlayStation 4 is currently around 50 per cent faster than the Xbox One.

Multiple high-level game development sources have described the difference in performance between the consoles as significant and obvious.

Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster.

Microsoft is aware of the problem and, having recently upped the clock speed of Xbox One, is working hard to close the gap on PS4, though one developer we spoke to downplayed the move. The clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much, he said. Of course, something is better than nothing.

full: http://www.edge-online.com/news/power-struggle-the-real-differences-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-performance/

T_0_D

To me the huge difference between the two is $100. The most powerful console of a generation does not win but the less expensive one usually does. As always it is going to come around to optimization and which platform is lead for multi-plats. If PS4 gets gimped multi's then MS wins, if Xbone gets gimped multi's because PS4 is lead and games are missing features while being converted to Xbone then Sony wins. Only time will tell.

[QUOTE="ramonnl"]

So it seems that the PlayStation 4 is currently around 50 per cent faster than the Xbox One.

Multiple high-level game development sources have described the difference in performance between the consoles as significant and obvious.

Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster.

Microsoft is aware of the problem and, having recently upped the clock speed of Xbox One, is working hard to close the gap on PS4, though one developer we spoke to downplayed the move. The clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much, he said. Of course, something is better than nothing.

full: http://www.edge-online.com/news/power-struggle-the-real-differences-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-performance/

T_0_D

To me the huge difference between the two is $100. The most powerful console of a generation does not win but the less expensive one usually does. As always it is going to come around to optimization and which platform is lead for multi-plats. If PS4 gets gimped multi's then MS wins, if Xbone gets gimped multi's because PS4 is lead and games are missing features while being converted to Xbone then Sony wins. Only time will tell.

"Xbox One is weaker and its a pain to use its ESRAM, concluded one developer."

So it's difficult to develop for and it's weaker

The differences between games will be huge

The Real difference is seen in the games and thus far The One >>>>> The Bore.

"Xbox One is weaker and its a pain to use its ESRAM, concluded one developer."

So it's difficult to develop for and it's weaker

The differences between games will be huge

Davekeeh

It won't though. Both systems will get similar looking multiplats, and carbon copy uninspired exclusives with the depth of a puddle and a story that's predictable from less than an hour in.

We're not stupid, EDGE. Major Nelson and Albert Penello have already debunked this, the two consoles are equal.Floppy_Jim

No matter how ya slice it 12 Southern Islands CUs ain't gonna perform the same as 18 of them. They just won't.

'One source even suggested that enforcing parity across consoles could become a political issue between platform holders, developers and publishers. They said that it could damage perceptions of a cross platform title, not to mention Xbox One, if the PS4 version shipped with an obviously superior resolution and framerate; better to castrate the PS4 version and release near-identical games to avoid ruffling any feathers.'

Welcome to the club sonybros.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]We're not stupid, EDGE. Major Nelson and Albert Penello have already debunked this, the two consoles are equal.Wickerman777

No matter how ya slice it 12 Southern Islands CUs ain't gonna perform the same as 18 of them. They just won't.

Yeah Floppy Gym. That will teach you for being 100% serious. 

will take xbone 4 years to graphically reach ps4's launch titles

[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]We're not stupid, EDGE. Major Nelson and Albert Penello have already debunked this, the two consoles are equal.MSXBOX4EVER

No matter how ya slice it 12 Southern Islands CUs ain't gonna perform the same as 18 of them. They just won't.

Yeah Floppy Gym. That will teach you for being 100% serious. 

He might have been being sarcastic but the fact still stands for anyone that wants to seriously claim the same thing.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

"Xbox One is weaker and its a pain to use its ESRAM, concluded one developer."

So it's difficult to develop for and it's weaker

The differences between games will be huge

Consternated

It won't though. Both systems will get similar looking multiplats, and carbon copy uninspired exclusives with the depth of a puddle and a story that's predictable from less than an hour in.

Stop being sensible this instant. This is sysyem wars you know. No room for reasonable thinking here. Be off with you.

[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]We're not stupid, EDGE. Major Nelson and Albert Penello have already debunked this, the two consoles are equal.MSXBOX4EVER

No matter how ya slice it 12 Southern Islands CUs ain't gonna perform the same as 18 of them. They just won't.

Yeah Floppy Gym. That will teach you for being 100% serious. 

You say the Xbone isn't loud?

It glides as softly as a cloud

Is there a chance the track could bend?

Not on your life, my lemming friend!

'Dat Slaystation 4.

The REAL difference between consoles we haven't had games to compare with yet?

Theoretical power is all fine and dandy but it's pointless if the games aren't all they could be. Multiplats will still be made with the lowest common denominator in mind.

The REAL difference between consoles we haven't had games to compare with yet?

Theoretical power is all fine and dandy but it's pointless if the games aren't all they could be. Multiplats will still be made with the lowest common denominator in mind.

seanmcloughlin

Would anyone here be willing to help fill out questionaire for my dissertation on the upcoming Console War?

I am actually looking into the strategy of both Sony and Microsoft, seeing which one is actually reaching the consumers, i would do one online and actually do the others with casuals who just drop by to buy games and then lastly to people who do not game much at all due to them being content with their iPhones/Tablets.

On topic though, i find this hardware difference to be negligible because historic indiction shows that the console with the best hardware does not win the race, also it is a give or take situation as the Xbox One has the stronger Online infrastructure in comparison to the Playstation, although its still debatable how much of a factor that plays into the overall story just as same with this GDDR5 thing. What would most likely do the talking are the games themselves, the TitanFalls, Infamous and Marios

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The REAL difference between consoles we haven't had games to compare with yet?

Theoretical power is all fine and dandy but it's pointless if the games aren't all they could be. Multiplats will still be made with the lowest common denominator in mind.

killzowned24

I never said anything to the contrary. Sony first party devs are some of the best around

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The REAL difference between consoles we haven't had games to compare with yet?

Theoretical power is all fine and dandy but it's pointless if the games aren't all they could be. Multiplats will still be made with the lowest common denominator in mind.

killzowned24

So it seems that the PlayStation 4 is currently around 50 per cent faster than the Xbox One.

Multiple high-level game development sources have described the difference in performance between the consoles as significant and obvious.

Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster.

Microsoft is aware of the problem and, having recently upped the clock speed of Xbox One, is working hard to close the gap on PS4, though one developer we spoke to downplayed the move. The clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much, he said. Of course, something is better than nothing.

full: http://www.edge-online.com/news/power-struggle-the-real-differences-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-performance/

ramonnl

http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_and_ps4_have_no_advantage_over_the_other_says_redlynx.html

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3, Ilvessuo said: " Obviously we have been developing this game for a while and you can see the comparisons. I would say if you know how to use the platform they are both very powerful. I don't see a benefit over the other with any of the consoles."

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http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/metal_gear_solid_5_the_phantom_pain/news/ps4_and_xbox_one_power_difference_is_minimal_says_kojima.html

"The difference is small, and I don't really need to worry about it," he said, suggesting versions for Xbox One and PS4 won't be dramatically different.

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http://gamingbolt.com/ubisoft-explains-the-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-versions-of-watch_dogs

"Of course, the Xbox One isnt to be counted out. We asked Guay how the Xbox One version of Watch_Dogs would be different compared to the PC and PS4 versions of the game, to which he replied that, The Xbox One is a powerful platform, as of now we do not foresee a major difference in on screen result between the PS4 and the Xbox One. Obviously since we are still working on pushing the game on these new consoles, we are still doing R&D."

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"We're still very much in the R&D period, that's what I call it, because the hardware is still new," Guay answered. "It's obvious to us that its going to take a little while before we can get to the full power of those machines and harness everything. But, even now we realise that both of them have comparable power, and for us thats good, but everyday it changes almost. Were pushing it and were going to continue doing that until [Watch Dogs] ship date."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-spec-analysis-durango-vs-orbis

"Other information has also come to light offering up a further Orbis advantage: the Sony hardware has a surprisingly large 32 ROPs (Render Output units) up against 16 on Durango. ROPs translate pixel and texel values into the final image sent to the display: on a very rough level, the more ROPs you have, the higher the resolution you can address (hardware anti-aliasing capability is also tied into the ROPs).16 ROPs is sufficient to maintain 1080p, 32 comes across as overkill, but it could be useful for addressing stereoscopic 1080p for instance, or even 4K. However, our sources suggest that Orbis is designed principally for displays with a maximum 1080p resolution."

http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/1/4580380/carmack-on-next-gen-console-hardware-very-close-very-good

Carmack on next-gen console hardware: 'very close,' 'very good'

http://www.edge-online.com/news/gaijin-games-on-why-war-thunder-isnt-coming-to-xbox-one/

How much more powerful?

AY: It depends what youre doing. GPU, like 40 per cent more powerful. DDR5 is basically 50 per cent more powerful than DDR3, but the memory write [performance] is bigger on Xbox One so it depends on what youre doing.

How is that going to translate to on-screen results for the kinds of games you want to make? So to optimise War Thunder on both consoles you could hypothetically make a better, prettier version on PS4?

AY: Yep.

KY: Probably yes. But again, thats not a very big deal.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The REAL difference between consoles we haven't had games to compare with yet?

Theoretical power is all fine and dandy but it's pointless if the games aren't all they could be. Multiplats will still be made with the lowest common denominator in mind.

seanmcloughlin

I never said anything to the contrary. Sony first party devs are some of the best around

Does EDGE even know that MS invented DirectX?

We're not stupid, EDGE. Major Nelson and Albert Penello have already debunked this, the two consoles are equal.Floppy_Jim

Xbone is just a WiiU: 2013 Edition confirmed.silversix_

XBone is not Wii U 2013 i.e. Wii U gets smacked by Radeon HD 8570M with GCN 384 stream processors @ 700Mhz and 64bit DDR3 VRAM.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Xbone is just a WiiU: 2013 Edition confirmed.ronvalencia

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Xbone is just a WiiU: 2013 Edition confirmed.Shewgenja

Congrats on that second place. Enjoy sub 1080p Battlefield and choppy framerates when playing Watch Dogs.Consternated

Congrats on missing out on some of the best games that will ever be made.... Uncharted series, The Last of Us, etc.

See what I do is... get the best version of the game I want that is available. So on PC I play Bioshock, Metro LL, Tomb Raider, etc.

Then when a console game the PC doesn't get like Uncharted, The Last of Us, God of War, Ni No Kuni.... I can still play them, because I'm not a brain dead fanboy.

But hey... to each his own.

So it seems that the PlayStation 4 is currently around 50 per cent faster than the Xbox One.

Multiple high-level game development sources have described the difference in performance between the consoles as significant and obvious.

Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster.

Microsoft is aware of the problem and, having recently upped the clock speed of Xbox One, is working hard to close the gap on PS4, though one developer we spoke to downplayed the move. The clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much, he said. Of course, something is better than nothing.

full: http://www.edge-online.com/news/power-struggle-the-real-differences-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-performance/

ramonnl

Xbox One does, however, boast superior performance to PS4 in other ways. Lets say you are using procedural generation or raytracing via parametric surfaces that is, using a lot of memory writes and not much texturing or ALU Xbox One will be likely be faster, said one developer

Indeed, despite that gulf in speed, the differences between cross platform launch window games will be negligible; with tight deadlines to meet, its more expedient for developers to deliberately create near-identical versions.

The poor [graphics] drivers have made it difficult to push either of them, and the developers arent familiar with the hardware yet, said one source. Another stated that well begin to see far greater use of each platforms unique features once were past the first wave of releases, when developers have more time and experience with each consoles quirks.

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PS; Some certain cows didn't believe me on the X86 based next-gen consoles also gained AMD's infamous drivers.

Everyone knows the The One® is the most powerful video game console ever created. The Neo® system provides dynamic, connected gaming, powerful graphics and speed, intelligent personalization, deeply integrated social capabilities, and innovative Kinect features. Combining unparalleled content, immersive gaming experiences, all of your favorite digital entertainment apps, and Xbox® exclusives, the Xbox One system focuses on the gamers and their quest for mooaar innovative tech like the all new Kinect 2® providing true Next Gen entertainment. :shock: :twisted:

:lol:

And yet.....the games somehow look better on the xbox one.

Where is all that power going?

Also, loledge.

And yet.....the games somehow look better on the xbox one.

Where is all that power going?

Also, loledge.

Evo_nine

And yet.....the games somehow look better on the xbox one.

Where is all that power going?

Also, loledge.

Evo_nine

I think MS knew that the PS4 would be more powerful and started their 'Power of the Clouds' campaing since the May reveal.

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

And yet.....the games somehow look better on the xbox one.

Where is all that power going?

Also, loledge.

Shewgenja

Speak for yourself i.e. PS4 didn't win memory write performance.

[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

And yet.....the games somehow look better on the xbox one.

Where is all that power going?

Also, loledge.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

And yet.....the games somehow look better on the xbox one.

 

Where is all that power going?

 

Also, loledge.

Evo_nine

Killzone: sf best looking launch game, so nope.