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#101 MadExponent

Member since 2003 • 11454 Posts

the tower (decent CPU, motherboard, power supply, and fans) $300
2 gigs of high quality ram $100
Windows Vista $200+ (amazing how hermits fail to add this to their "PCs arn't so expensive" arguement)
a decent Video Card $250

That's $850 for a new next gen PC which will go obsolete in 4 years. Oh, and don't forget about the bugs.
Sure, you can slowly upgrade...but every 4 years you're basically spending the $800+ in total anyway. :lol:
OceanLeet

I'm a PC gamer and I can tell you right now that those prices are way off. The PC in my sig cost me about $2000 without the monitor. With the monitor it costs well over $3000. I don't really care if I could have just gotten by with cheaper stuff. I want the best possible experience when I play Crysis for the first time. I don't think some of you guys really understand how good this year is going to be for PC. There are SOOOO many great games taking advantage of DX10 coming out that it us just mind numbing.

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#102 muscrat_01

Member since 2005 • 3592 Posts

Why do dellusional console fanboys even try, fighting PC gamers in terms of hardware prices.

All they end up doing is 'shooting themselves in the foot'.

You know all the "OMG LoLZ UlTRA XpEnsive PC, HermItz PWNZORED"
Only to be trashed by a series of proper hardware lists with links..................

Its a bit sad...... Yet amusing :P

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#103 IgGy621985

Member since 2004 • 5922 Posts

A real next gen PC.(newegg.com prices)

Corsair 2GB DDR2 RAM= $195

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 2.66GHZ= $970

8800GTX= $589

Good sound card= $139

500GB HDD= $140

Total= $2033.00

And that doesn't even include: Cooling kits, Vista, etc..

In other words..

Your prices are off :lol:
miss_kitt3n

Dude, why the hell would you need a Core2 Extreme to play new games? wtf? Why the hell would you need 8800 GTX either?

What you found is a "extreme" configuration for hardcore enthusiasts, not the socalled "next-gen" PC...

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#104 True_Gamer_

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[QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"]the tower (decent CPU, motherboard, power supply, and fans) $300
2 gigs of high quality ram $100
Windows Vista $200+ (amazing how hermits fail to add this to their "PCs arn't so expensive" arguement)
a decent Video Card $250

That's $850 for a new next gen PC which will go obsolete in 4 years. Oh, and don't forget about the bugs.
Sure, you can slowly upgrade...but every 4 years you're basically spending the $800+ in total anyway. :lol:
subrosian

Those are some pretty conservative prices IMO.

Doesn't matter - you're going to get PC fanboys claiming that you can game for "as long as you want on that until you want to upgrade." I have yet to see a single hermit admit that games (especially graphics-driven ones like FPS games or processor-intensive RTS games) just DO NOT downscale the way that some PC fanboys would have you believe. When Starcraft came out would my three year old PC run it? Heck no, it *chugged* painfully. No graphics card is going to even last three years anymore. Say you buy an LCD and you're expecting to game at a certain resolution (1366x768, about a megapixel) you'll get that resolution on your old and maybe current games. Then along comes the next engine that all the new games will use and BAM - it's time to start turning down lots of settings, turning off AA, lowering the AF, dropping the resolution, et cetera. The next "generation" of games that comes out after that? Forget it - 800x600 low settings. With two years your card is down to the point where you're not seriously "gaming" in the latest games anymore. Then of course there's the fanboy defense "well it's cheap to buy a mid-range GPU and you can run all the games from a year ago" - which is cool, but then again you can buy a PS2 for $130 and play all the most popular games from the past (Katamari, GTA, God of War, FF X, Kingdom Hearts, Twisted Metal Black, Devil May Cry 3, Disgaea, et cetera) as well. For someone looking to play new games a console is a cheaper investment, there's just no way around it.

Wow another illusional console fanboy....
If you have no idea about what youre talking just dont post....
A $850 PC that includes a C2D6300 and a 8600Ultra will run ALL games at 720p res 2xAA/No AF...at 30fps...The same settings as the Xbox360 for the ENTIRE lifespan of the console...
And will run any PC game with same graphical features as the Xbox360...
Now you may scream that this PC is "teh expensive" but we shouldnt forget the $400 NON gaming PC that one needs to compete with it...

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Member since 2003 • 22814 Posts

You get what you pay for. :wink:

PC's do alot more then play games. Not to mention the huge amount of amazing titles that are available on PC now and in the future. If you can't afford it (it's really not that much) then don't buy a gaming PC. But if you can (and most can judging from sales) then you won't regret it. You just can't beat a KB/mouse and 64+ player multiplayer games. :wink:

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Member since 2002 • 13252 Posts

A good PC never get below 1000$

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Member since 2002 • 16666 Posts

2 gigs of high qulity ram is more than $100 and a Video Card to play new games is more like $500.

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the tower (decent CPU, motherboard, power supply, and fans)   $300
2 gigs of high quality ram   $100
Windows Vista   $200+ (amazing how hermits fail to add this to their "PCs arn't so expensive" arguement)
a decent Video Card   $250

That's $850 for a new next gen PC which will go obsolete in 4 years. Oh, and don't forget about the bugs.
Sure, you can slowly upgrade...but every 4 years you're basically spending the $800+ in total anyway. :lol:
OceanLeet

now look at software. you only have to buy the new hardware once, you have to buy the software everytime. as a pcakage (hardware+software) the pc is actually much cheaper. the pc can also do alot that consoles cant, right down to making console games.

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Member since 2007 • 7819 Posts

How can you get 2 gigs of ram for $100? It's 200 minimum and a decent CPU motherboard , power supply and fans is at least $600.00.

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#110 evilbarbarian

Member since 2005 • 3883 Posts

600? No.

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#111 Koalakommander

Member since 2006 • 5462 Posts

so if i told u i had a PC that cost 1500, and had better graphics then the 360/ps3/wii, arnt i a Gen ahead?

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Member since 2004 • 12252 Posts

A good PC never get below 1000$Redgarl

Uhhh...yes, you can easily do it. Just don't buy new hardware the day it comes out. Wait until it's actually needed. Be a smart shopper.

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Member since 2006 • 1370 Posts

The real price of a Next gen Pc = around $1600 (bare bones runs but with next gen capabilitys meaning its upgradable) .

Fully loaded Next Gen pc = $ 7000 (Fully Loaded no need to upgrade untill new cpu, gpu and ppu's are introduced to the market. ).

Note the bare bones pc is not really next gen imo untill its upgraded.

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#114 jwcyclone15

Member since 2005 • 1149 Posts

MadExponent , How did you get your E6600 to 3.6ghz with a 9700...thats a really **** cooler..
I bet if you put it on water or even a Turniq on that, the clocks would really go up.
P.S. Does our OCZ memory, have D9 chips on them?

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#115 jwcyclone15

Member since 2005 • 1149 Posts

The real price of a Next gen Pc = around $1600 (bare bones runs but with next gen capabilitys meaning its upgradable) .
Fully loaded Next Gen pc = $ 7000 (Fully Loaded no need to upgrade untill new cpu, gpu and ppu's are introduced to the market. ).
Note the bare bones pc is not really next gen imo untill its upgraded.
DazKurupt

Your really dumb...I can only guess of how many people have ripped you off...LOL

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#116 Vandalvideo

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The real price of a Next gen Pc = around $1600 (bare bones runs but with next gen capabilitys meaning its upgradable) .
Fully loaded Next Gen pc = $ 7000 (Fully Loaded no need to upgrade untill new cpu, gpu and ppu's are introduced to the market. ).
Note the bare bones pc is not really next gen imo untill its upgraded.
DazKurupt

You either buy your PCs from alienware or that dude from resident evil. "I'll sell it at a high price" Anyway, you can build a relatively high end next gen machine for roughly 800, top of the line is like 3K. To run Crysis in full dx10 mode is about 1.2K-1.5K depending on the precise ammount of FPS you want.

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Member since 2006 • 23356 Posts

The real price of a Next gen Pc = around $1600 (bare bones runs but with next gen capabilitys meaning its upgradable) .
Fully loaded Next Gen pc = $ 7000 (Fully Loaded no need to upgrade untill new cpu, gpu and ppu's are introduced to the market. ).
Note the bare bones pc is not really next gen imo untill its upgraded.
DazKurupt

Where do you buy your parts?!?! $1600 for a barebones? $7000 for full system? What's the punch line?

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Member since 2004 • 12252 Posts

[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]
The real price of a Next gen Pc = around $1600 (bare bones runs but with next gen capabilitys meaning its upgradable) .
Fully loaded Next Gen pc = $ 7000 (Fully Loaded no need to upgrade untill new cpu, gpu and ppu's are introduced to the market. ).
Note the bare bones pc is not really next gen imo untill its upgraded.
Vandalvideo

You either buy your PCs from alienware or that dude from resident evil. "I'll sell it at a high price" Anyway, you can build a relatively high end next gen machine for roughly 800, top of the line is like 3K. To run Crysis in full dx10 mode is about 1.2K-1.5K depending on the precise ammount of FPS you want.

If you only want a resolution of 1280*1024 I'm sure a PC $1k and even under could run Crysis maxxed, especially if you buy it when Crysis releases.

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Member since 2006 • 26339 Posts

The real price of a Next gen Pc = around $1600 (bare bones runs but with next gen capabilitys meaning its upgradable) .
Fully loaded Next Gen pc = $ 7000 (Fully Loaded no need to upgrade untill new cpu, gpu and ppu's are introduced to the market. ).
Note the bare bones pc is not really next gen imo untill its upgraded.
DazKurupt

explain. fully. no SLI, btw.

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Member since 2006 • 1370 Posts

That is the real price of a next gen pc , I wouldnt call any old pc next gen lol , and i wouldnt say that piecing parts together and adding to something you already have counts as the real price of a next gen pc. Which was the topic of the thread.

a next gen pc if you were to buy from a vendor whos worthy of labeling there systems next gen = $1600-7000+.

Im not saying you arent able to find bargains by building your own. Just saying thats the price of a true next gen system.

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Member since 2006 • 26339 Posts

a next gen pc if you were to buy from a vendor
DazKurupt

Hermits don't buy pre-made PCs.

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#122 Orpheus_1986

Member since 2007 • 116 Posts

My PC cost me just under £500 about 3 years ago. (Not including a monitor or the cost of XP which i got for free from Uni. Nor does it including all of my HDD drives as a i re-used them from my previous PC) It still plays most games in medium if not high graphical quality. Cheap PC Gaming can be done and it can be very enjoyable. The arguments that get thrown back and forth in this forum based purelly on Price are pretty groundless. PCs are quiet expensive, well done people. But the upgrade cycle for an average PC Gamer isn't every 6 months like most of the console fanboys keep telling themselves.+

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That PC won't last 4 years and won't run anything new this year on max.

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well a quad core processor is 999.99$ and thats just the processor i have no idea of what the mother board costs, and the DX10 card is around 300.00-649.99$

and thats just those 3 things then u need a new hard drive and new memory and maybe a faster DVD burner

so i dunno what this stuff about being around 850$ is...

thank god 4 xbox 360...

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Member since 2007 • 938 Posts

[QUOTE="DazKurupt"]
a next gen pc if you were to buy from a vendor
Hewkii

Hermits don't buy pre-made PCs.

Exactly. They make their own, like I did. You can get more for less money.

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#126 mestizoman

Member since 2006 • 4172 Posts

the tower (decent CPU, motherboard, power supply, and fans)   $300
2 gigs of high quality ram   $100
Windows Vista   $200+ (amazing how hermits fail to add this to their "PCs arn't so expensive" arguement)
a decent Video Card   $250

That's $850 for a new next gen PC which will go obsolete in 4 years. Oh, and don't forget about the bugs.
Sure, you can slowly upgrade...but every 4 years you're basically spending the $800+ in total anyway. :lol:
OceanLeet

well a top of the line pc would need two 8800 gtx in sli, even just stock-clocked the 768 mb behemoth slaughters the competition

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#127 Orpheus_1986

Member since 2007 • 116 Posts

That PC won't last 4 years and won't run anything new this year on max.SkyRaid

...Why would i need to run everything on max....i don't play games for graphics as a primery factor in my enjoyment of them.

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#128 MadExponent

Member since 2003 • 11454 Posts

Next gen consoles are able to do some pretty nice graphics. That said however if developers could design more games that took advantage of high end PC's there would be no question who has the best graphics. Crysis for instance is catering to the high end PC market and it just so happens to be the best looking game coming out.

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well a quad core processor is 999.99$ and thats just the processor i have no idea of what the mother board costs, and the DX10 card is around 300.00-649.99$
and thats just those 3 things then u need a new hard drive and new memory and maybe a faster DVD burner
so i dunno what this stuff about being around 850$ is...
thank god 4 xbox 360...
Ryder004

Why do I need a Quad Core again? And why can't I get the $150-$180 Dx10 GPU? Oh that's right, because you need to inflate the cost to feel good about yourself.

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#130 IgGy621985

Member since 2004 • 5922 Posts

Why do I need a Quad Core again? And why can't I get the $150-$180 Dx10 GPU? Oh that's right, because you need to inflate the cost to feel good about yourself.Danm_999

Because you won't be able to run that crappy looking game called Sacred 2 with your dual-core. But Xbox 360, with its three-core power-mega-ultraPC will.

So in that case, you wont get that dynamic fluidity feature.

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#131 True_Gamer_

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Why do I need a Quad Core again? And why can't I get the $150-$180 Dx10 GPU? Oh that's right, because you need to inflate the cost to feel good about yourself.IgGy621985

Because you won't be able to run that crappy looking game called Sacred 2 with your dual-core. But Xbox 360, with its three-core power-mega-ultraPC will.

So in that case, you wont get that dynamic fluidity feature.

1st If that game really requires a quad core CPU it will be dead before even releases on the PC...PC games rely 90% on the GPU and the RAM...plus I dont know any pC game up to date that even required a C2D6300 to run....all require a P4 at 3.2 ghz with its 512kb of cache and 800mhz fsb...while the C2D6300 has 2mb of cache and 1066mhz fsb...

2nd The Xbox360 toy CPU has 1mb of SHARED cache...and 512mb of shared RAM...so its more like a dumbed down cheapo PC...

3rd We have lived with 512kb of cache for more than a half of a decade and Im confident that the C2D6300 will last at least another 5 years...

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#132 IgGy621985

Member since 2004 • 5922 Posts

That was a sacrcasm ;)

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#133 True_Gamer_

Member since 2006 • 6750 Posts

That was a sacrcasm ;)IgGy621985

lol i guess my sarcasm detector needs fixing...:P

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